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| Started by | Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> |
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| First post | 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-09-04 07:21 -0700 |
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Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 06:43 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 00:01 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 02:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 12:34 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Nobody you know <nobody@nowhere.com> - 2018-09-02 10:36 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 07:49 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 19:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 12:44 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 13:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:13 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-09-02 21:52 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 21:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:41 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:07 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 19:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 07:33 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 06:40 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 10:05 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-04 09:14 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-04 15:58 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:48 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 18:59 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 16:21 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:49 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:08 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 17:24 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 17:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 21:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 22:03 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:03 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 07:09 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 07:36 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 07:55 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:47 +0000
crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-05 12:15 -0500
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 01:03 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 18:20 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:17 -0700
Re: crApple products chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-06 09:47 -0500
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:06 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 14:36 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:51 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:30 -0700
Re: crApple products DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-06 12:44 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 11:28 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:35 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 23:57 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 00:17 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 21:25 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 03:51 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 22:00 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:44 +0000
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:15 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:34 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:42 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:11 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:43 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:40 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 17:53 -0400
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:12 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:20 -0400
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:22 -0700
Re: crApple products RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 21:21 +0000
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 21:39 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:56 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 23:55 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:12 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 09:32 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 21:37 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 14:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:12 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:47 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 22:48 +0000
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 15:57 -0700
Re: crApple products "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-09 23:26 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-09 16:00 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 16:50 -0700
Re: crApple products Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-09 19:43 -0400
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 17:05 -0700
"Gain" is the _ input volume. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-09 18:57 -0700
Re: "Gain" is the _ input volume. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-09 19:26 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 14:53 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:04 -0700
Re: crApple products Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-08 15:19 -0700
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:28 +0000
Re: crApple products William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:39 -0400
Re: crApple products SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:06 +0000
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:29 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:10 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-07 18:42 -0700
Re: crApple products Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 10:15 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 21:47 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-05 16:44 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-05 09:59 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-05 13:34 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:31 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 08:13 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 12:42 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:00 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 09:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 06:33 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:30 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:23 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 07:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-09-06 22:39 +0200
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 13:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 14:05 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 18:26 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 15:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:26 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:50 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:29 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-06 19:39 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Poaster <noemail@lutenorg.com> - 2018-09-06 23:47 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:50 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:52 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:26 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-06 23:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Lenny Dignman <dingmansferryboat3@dingman.org> - 2018-09-06 19:53 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-06 17:10 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 21:51 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-06 07:22 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-05 21:29 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 16:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-04 11:25 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 11:54 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 23:46 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-07 10:58 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-09-07 09:16 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 20:50 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-07 23:16 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-07 23:35 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> - 2018-09-07 19:44 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-08 14:07 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-08 14:14 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 10:06 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:39 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 07:25 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-10 05:53 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 06:37 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 15:45 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-10 11:05 -0500
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:46 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-10 23:25 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-10 12:23 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-08 09:32 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-02 22:48 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-02 22:57 +0000
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 16:27 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 15:20 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:06 -0400
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 17:56 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-02 14:17 -0700
Re: Kernel 4.19 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-02 19:05 -0400
Frankly, I don't notice [any] difference [in the Kernel] Simon bar Sinister <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2018-09-04 07:21 -0700
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 06:37 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fv7g4fF4q6U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465804 |
On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: > Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >> Melzzzzz wrote: >>> >>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This is like >>>> Php, which has also been called crap because there's been so much >>>> garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>> >>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ had >>> even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on local >>> machine ;) >> >> How'd that work out? :-D > > It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their > jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey > fscking percent of the desktop market. > > According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of making excuses for it. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 06:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <7a114f23-5c48-4dd7-826d-d3251af003bb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465814 |
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 6:37:22 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: > > Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > > > >> Melzzzzz wrote: > >>> > >>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This is like > >>>> Php, which has also been called crap because there's been so much > >>>> garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. > >>> > >>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ had > >>> even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on local > >>> machine ;) > >> > >> How'd that work out? :-D > > > > It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their > > jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey > > fscking percent of the desktop market. > > > > According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. > > If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of > making excuses for it. > > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> I shall not ask chrisv how any part of RonB's body tastes no matter how many times chrisv licks it. And given how regularly it is clear that chrisv's post is some skew of an observation RonB made which had been a beating on chrisv for something he did which was crazy/wrong/etc... its undoubtedly a common gesture of chrisv's lingering butthurt for having been so often humiliated: chrisv is demonstrably incapable of facing his own actions. Lots of advocates keep responding to chrisv. To be honest, I can not denounce RonB for his hissy fit but I can not understand why he posts here at all. RonB is expecting dialog as found in a non-trolling environment and advocacy environments simply suck for that. Lots of jerks are now talking about the Arch Linux "desktop" as if something like that even potentially could happen. I could respond to chrisv at once but he is a blockhead who distorts your words to implement his desire to call everyone a cheat. chrisv's toned down the hundreds of self promoting, insane threads he used to create but he's surely not much different in the morality dept. He uses socks more to create those attacks. Did he think that was clever? -- E-commerce Simplified http://alt.conspiracy.narkive.com/QcWYJ4Px/the-mentally-ill-mark-s-bilk Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 10:05 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fv7hp0FfejU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465814 |
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >> >>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>> >>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This is like >>>>> Php, which has also been called crap because there's been so much >>>>> garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>> >>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ had >>>> even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on local >>>> machine ;) >>> >>> How'd that work out? :-D >> >> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >> fscking percent of the desktop market. >> >> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. > > If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of > making excuses for it. Where do you feel Linux is lacking? Be specific and market share != lacking.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 09:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ko4todh9b1nbskn03508eormhk08c0p8d9@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #465820 |
William Barnes wrote: >On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: *plonk* -- 'The results (http://tinyurl.com/DumFSck) from last year prove, once again, that "choice!" isn't nearly as important to Linux users as (chrisv) and RonG and others claim it is.' - DumFSck, lying shamelessly
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 15:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <wYxjD.22647$3L2.15681@fx44.iad> |
| In reply to | #465820 |
On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>> >>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This >>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been >>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>>> >>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ >>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on >>>>> local machine ;) >>>> >>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>> >>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >>> fscking percent of the desktop market. >>> >>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >> >> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of >> making excuses for it. > > Where do you feel Linux is lacking? > Be specific and market share != lacking. I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now provides a pretty stellar experience. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 11:48 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fv82btF3qr4U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465838 |
On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >> >>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>> >>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This >>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been >>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>>>> >>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ >>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on >>>>>> local machine ;) >>>>> >>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>> >>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>> >>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>> >>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of >>> making excuses for it. >> >> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >> Be specific and market share != lacking. > > I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now > provides a pretty stellar experience. > > > Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show itself well. In others, not so much. * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before coming up with the task. * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, of course): <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a competing system. And still failed. * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird. * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not find a good method). * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> * Rename / move an open word processor file: Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 18:59 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fv8h1lF6nhnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465858 |
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This >>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been >>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ >>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on >>>>>>> local machine ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>> >>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>> >>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>> >>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of >>>> making excuses for it. >>> >>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >> >> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now >> provides a pretty stellar experience. >> >> >> > Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been > talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show > itself well. In others, not so much. > > * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, > whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this > can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see > how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow > would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. > > * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post > production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. > For me these were done just to show something else: > <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked > these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before > coming up with the task. > > * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders > of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: > <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. > > * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the > HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to > the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, > of course): > <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. > > * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including > with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the > bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> > (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a > competing system. And still failed. > > * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video > bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion > sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My > end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. > > * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection > terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also > have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the > connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but > Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why > others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had > that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. > There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. > > * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of > the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results > are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution > for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to > recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was > about special search results per OS. Weird. > > * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no > scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA > provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not > find a good method). > > * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com > (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I > did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF > had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients > and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so > well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. > > * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and > include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's > solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. > > * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current > background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created > 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher > (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting > colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use > exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets > text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation > of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> > > * Rename / move an open word processor file: > Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) > Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) > > * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I > challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC > doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, > but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a > sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word > games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what > Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities > (other than to both be spreadsheets). Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully crafted your tests to show that. A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter months but not so great during the summer months. I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. Ever. I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks that your Mac would trip over as well.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 16:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ed2e8323-4801-4f6b-9c53-c2a9f93d592e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465879 |
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 3:59:04 PM UTC-7, William Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > > > On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > >> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >> > >>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: > >>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This > >>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been > >>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ > >>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on > >>>>>>> local machine ;) > >>>>>> > >>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D > >>>>> > >>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their > >>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey > >>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. > >>>>> > >>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. > >>>> > >>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of > >>>> making excuses for it. > >>> > >>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? > >>> Be specific and market share != lacking. > >> > >> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now > >> provides a pretty stellar experience. > >> > >> > >> > > Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been > > talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show > > itself well. In others, not so much. > > > > * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, > > whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this > > can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see > > how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow > > would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. > > > > * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post > > production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. > > For me these were done just to show something else: > > <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked > > these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before > > coming up with the task. > > > > * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders > > of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: > > <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. > > > > * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the > > HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to > > the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, > > of course): > > <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. > > > > * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including > > with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the > > bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> > > (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a > > competing system. And still failed. > > > > * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video > > bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion > > sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My > > end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. > > > > * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection > > terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also > > have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the > > connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but > > Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why > > others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had > > that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. > > There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. > > > > * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of > > the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results > > are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution > > for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to > > recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was > > about special search results per OS. Weird. > > > > * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no > > scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA > > provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not > > find a good method). > > > > * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com > > (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I > > did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF > > had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients > > and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so > > well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. > > > > * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and > > include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's > > solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. > > > > * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current > > background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created > > 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher > > (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting > > colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use > > exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets > > text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation > > of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> > > > > * Rename / move an open word processor file: > > Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) > > Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) > > > > * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I > > challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC > > doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, > > but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a > > sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word > > games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what > > Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities > > (other than to both be spreadsheets). > > Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully > crafted your tests to show that. > A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter > months but not so great during the summer months. > I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation > where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. > Ever. > I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks > that your Mac would trip over as well. It won't matter because the name on a post means nothing, we know it is from the flooder anyway. Klaus Schadenfreude owns Flooder Steve Carroll in every way possible. And what did Flooder Steve Carroll have to say about this miraculous, years long string of oddities? Most of the time he would try to push the reader to believe they're real people who just happened to have a detailed understanding of the history of the group. LOL! How did Flooder Steve Carroll get _so_ narcissistic he believes everything is about him?? Why do you keep rephrasing Klaus Schadenfreude? -- Curious how these posts are made? Email: usenet@gallopinginsanity.com
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 23:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pmn5mg$tei$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #465879 |
On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>> >>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This >>>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been >>>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ >>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on >>>>>>>> local machine ;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>> >>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >>>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >>>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>> >>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>> >>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of >>>>> making excuses for it. >>>> >>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>> >>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now >>> provides a pretty stellar experience. >>> >>> >>> >> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been >> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show >> itself well. In others, not so much. >> >> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, >> whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this >> can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see >> how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow >> would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >> >> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. >> For me these were done just to show something else: >> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked >> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before >> coming up with the task. >> >> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders >> of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: >> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >> >> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the >> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to >> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, >> of course): >> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >> >> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including >> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the >> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> >> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a >> competing system. And still failed. >> >> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video >> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion >> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My >> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >> >> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection >> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also >> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the >> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but >> Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why >> others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >> that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. >> There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >> >> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of >> the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results >> are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution >> for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to >> recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was >> about special search results per OS. Weird. >> >> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not >> find a good method). >> >> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com >> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I >> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF >> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients >> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so >> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >> >> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and >> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's >> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >> >> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created >> 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher >> (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting >> colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use >> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets >> text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation >> of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >> >> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >> >> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC >> doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, >> but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a >> sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word >> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what >> Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities >> (other than to both be spreadsheets). > > Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully > crafted your tests to show that. > A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter > months but not so great during the summer months. > I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation > where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. > Ever. > I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks > that your Mac would trip over as well. "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 17:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a38ad313-9639-4ae3-900b-aba5b690fbf7@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465884 |
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 4:49:39 PM UTC-7, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > > > >> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: > >>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This > >>>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been > >>>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ > >>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on > >>>>>>>> local machine ;) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their > >>>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey > >>>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. > >>>>> > >>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of > >>>>> making excuses for it. > >>>> > >>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? > >>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. > >>> > >>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now > >>> provides a pretty stellar experience. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been > >> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show > >> itself well. In others, not so much. > >> > >> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, > >> whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this > >> can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see > >> how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow > >> would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. > >> > >> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post > >> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. > >> For me these were done just to show something else: > >> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked > >> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before > >> coming up with the task. > >> > >> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders > >> of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: > >> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. > >> > >> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the > >> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to > >> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, > >> of course): > >> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. > >> > >> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including > >> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the > >> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> > >> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a > >> competing system. And still failed. > >> > >> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video > >> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion > >> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My > >> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. > >> > >> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection > >> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also > >> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the > >> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but > >> Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why > >> others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had > >> that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. > >> There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. > >> > >> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of > >> the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results > >> are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution > >> for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to > >> recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was > >> about special search results per OS. Weird. > >> > >> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no > >> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA > >> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not > >> find a good method). > >> > >> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com > >> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I > >> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF > >> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients > >> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so > >> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. > >> > >> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and > >> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's > >> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. > >> > >> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current > >> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created > >> 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher > >> (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting > >> colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use > >> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets > >> text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation > >> of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> > >> > >> * Rename / move an open word processor file: > >> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) > >> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) > >> > >> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I > >> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC > >> doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, > >> but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a > >> sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word > >> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what > >> Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities > >> (other than to both be spreadsheets). > > > > Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully > > crafted your tests to show that. > > A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter > > months but not so great during the summer months. > > I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation > > where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. > > Ever. > > I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks > > that your Mac would trip over as well. > > "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again > (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." > > -- > The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux. Sadly this is what results when acutely poor self-respect takes over Takuya 'The Flooder' Saitoh's life. Klaus Schadenfreude just wiped his ass with Takuya 'The Flooder' Saitoh. Nobody gets it, I don't get it. Can you get over it? I have worked in the computer industry for almost 20 years. I have had a contract with multinational companies working with the robotics industry and the health industry. Never, not even once, were we instructed not to pre-install any OS the customer wanted. We sold AIX, Amiga, Red Hat, among others alongside MS OSs very successfully. Takuya 'The Flooder' Saitoh can only understand from the perspective of a psychopath. With all the gloating Takuya 'The Flooder' Saitoh has done on this topic, the 'Information Architect' doesn't understand how to do this. It literally takes a couple seconds to click and drag across text and 'reverse' it. Takuya 'The Flooder' Saitoh calls it "obsessing" over him, even though he proceeds to trigger that selfsame response. - This Trick Gets Women Hot For You https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/tzMH39QmAmU http://www.5z8.info/myspace-of-sex_q7q7zl_instant-purchase Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 17:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fv8m1vF7i1fU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465884 |
On 9/4/18 4:49 PM, RonB wrote: > On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >> >>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This >>>>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been >>>>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ >>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on >>>>>>>>> local machine ;) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >>>>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >>>>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>> >>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of >>>>>> making excuses for it. >>>>> >>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>> >>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now >>>> provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been >>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show >>> itself well. In others, not so much. >>> >>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, >>> whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this >>> can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see >>> how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow >>> would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>> >>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. >>> For me these were done just to show something else: >>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked >>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before >>> coming up with the task. >>> >>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders >>> of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: >>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>> >>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the >>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to >>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, >>> of course): >>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>> >>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including >>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the >>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> >>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a >>> competing system. And still failed. >>> >>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video >>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion >>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My >>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>> >>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection >>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also >>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the >>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but >>> Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why >>> others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. >>> There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>> >>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of >>> the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results >>> are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution >>> for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to >>> recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was >>> about special search results per OS. Weird. >>> >>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not >>> find a good method). >>> >>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com >>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I >>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF >>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients >>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so >>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>> >>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and >>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's >>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>> >>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created >>> 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher >>> (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting >>> colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use >>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets >>> text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation >>> of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>> >>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>> >>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC >>> doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, >>> but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a >>> sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word >>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what >>> Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities >>> (other than to both be spreadsheets). >> >> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully >> crafted your tests to show that. >> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter >> months but not so great during the summer months. >> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation >> where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. >> Ever. >> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks >> that your Mac would trip over as well. > > "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again > (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." > Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 17:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ce0a9659-d55f-4cff-8184-8a5ce4386970@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465888 |
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 5:24:34 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 9/4/18 4:49 PM, RonB wrote:
> > On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> >>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote:
> >>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This
> >>>>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been
> >>>>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$
> >>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on
> >>>>>>>>> local machine ;)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their
> >>>>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey
> >>>>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of
> >>>>>> making excuses for it.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking?
> >>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking.
> >>>>
> >>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now
> >>>> provides a pretty stellar experience.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been
> >>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show
> >>> itself well. In others, not so much.
> >>>
> >>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map,
> >>> whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this
> >>> can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see
> >>> how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow
> >>> would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>.
> >>>
> >>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post
> >>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting.
> >>> For me these were done just to show something else:
> >>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked
> >>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before
> >>> coming up with the task.
> >>>
> >>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders
> >>> of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here:
> >>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux.
> >>>
> >>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the
> >>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to
> >>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same,
> >>> of course):
> >>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>.
> >>>
> >>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including
> >>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the
> >>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512>
> >>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a
> >>> competing system. And still failed.
> >>>
> >>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video
> >>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion
> >>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My
> >>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>.
> >>>
> >>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection
> >>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also
> >>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the
> >>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but
> >>> Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why
> >>> others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had
> >>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>.
> >>> There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states.
> >>>
> >>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of
> >>> the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results
> >>> are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution
> >>> for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to
> >>> recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was
> >>> about special search results per OS. Weird.
> >>>
> >>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no
> >>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA
> >>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not
> >>> find a good method).
> >>>
> >>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com
> >>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I
> >>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF
> >>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients
> >>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so
> >>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked.
> >>>
> >>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and
> >>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's
> >>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>.
> >>>
> >>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current
> >>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created
> >>> 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher
> >>> (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting
> >>> colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use
> >>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets
> >>> text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation
> >>> of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM>
> >>>
> >>> * Rename / move an open word processor file:
> >>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant)
> >>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!)
> >>>
> >>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I
> >>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC
> >>> doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing,
> >>> but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a
> >>> sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word
> >>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what
> >>> Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities
> >>> (other than to both be spreadsheets).
> >>
> >> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully
> >> crafted your tests to show that.
> >> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter
> >> months but not so great during the summer months.
> >> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation
> >> where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks.
> >> Ever.
> >> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks
> >> that your Mac would trip over as well.
> >
> > "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again
> > (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug."
> >
>
> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS
> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me.
>
> --
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
>
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
>
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
Facts about Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll
Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is a nearly 60 year old guy who is single, broke and has no skills. He blames Peter the Cöwardly Liön for his loss of his wife and girlfriend. Steven is jealous of what Peter the Cöwardly Liön has and in a narcissistic rage repeatedly works to take it away from him. For over 10 years he has failed at even this. Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll is an utter failure in life.
Of his online life Steven says
I've been booted off by past providers before because people
complain about me and all my bullshit. I don't want to lose my ISP
*again* but I still need my army of sock puppets so I continually
search usenet for whatever servers I haven't yet been booted
from.
Some examples where Steven has been booted
X10 Hosting booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/z92qmz4
Comcast booted Steven for inappropriate activity
http://tinyurl.com/h75nh9l
FreeHostingEU booted Steven for copyright infringement http://devsite.eu.pn
AwardSpace (atwebpages.com) booted Steven for breaking terms of service
http://demsites.atwebpages.com/pokeman
Imgur took down an image for breaking terms of service http://imgur.com/yv2XppE
Had a GigaNews account which was removed for harassing Peter the Cöwardly Liön
Stopped posting from his fretwizzen Google account since shortly after I complained. Seems he lost that too.
His wife booted Steven to the curb for cheating on her
Only site Steven Petruzzellis has pointed to that has ever been available
http://web.archive.org/web/20161019062351/http://www.oldneighborhoodrestaurant.net/
https://goo.gl/DMno6J
Made by the Go Daddy Website builder and is utter crap. Later he denied he said he was merely taking credit for someone else's work but Steven is the contact person http://tinyurl.com/hcw6dul
http://web.archive.org/web/20161202192456/http://www.reservationdiary.eu/eng/reservation/d76d1156-e9f7-43c1-b77b-b07189857820
He also bragged he was working on an update and showed it here https://vid.me/u6RK
The business still failed.
He likely went to the Go Daddy Website Builder after he failed to get WordPress installed.
https://mu.wordpress.org/forums/topic/13879
This is why Steve "Steven Petruzzellis" Carroll attacks Peter the Cöwardly Liön.
Steven Petruzzellis was is divorced because his wife caught him screwing another woman.
Peter the Cöwardly Liön is married and by all appearances happily so.
He never complains about his wife in COLA.
Steven Petruzzellis is living on charity of a friend in a single room.
Peter the Cöwardly Liön does not live in a mansion or even a high end home but has a house and a yard.
Steven Petruzzellis has two kids but no respect. He repeatedly called Ryan his "little screwup" and refers to his son Steve as a "dick" and worse. He says at least one of them likely hacked his computer and is a "mentally deficient child." He mocks his possible future daughter-in-law as someone who takes too many selfies and is focused only on herself
Peter the Cöwardly Liön has two kids (or more) and never speaks poorly of them in public.
No reason to think they are not a happy family.
Steven Petruzzellis claims to be a stay at home dad who pays thousands of dollars for day care. Steven has no job and no purpose in life. Steven has given up and now seeks a mother-figure to date.
Peter the Cöwardly Liön has his own business doing technical work and also teaches.
Peter the Cöwardly Liön offers a true contribution to society.
Teachers are truly under appreciated.
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| From | William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 22:26 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fv8t6tF8v5kU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465888 |
On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 -0700, Snit wrote: > On 9/4/18 4:49 PM, RonB wrote: >> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This >>>>>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been >>>>>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ >>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on >>>>>>>>>> local machine ;) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >>>>>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >>>>>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of >>>>>>> making excuses for it. >>>>>> >>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>> >>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now >>>>> provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been >>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show >>>> itself well. In others, not so much. >>>> >>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, >>>> whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this >>>> can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see >>>> how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow >>>> would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>> >>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. >>>> For me these were done just to show something else: >>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked >>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before >>>> coming up with the task. >>>> >>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders >>>> of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: >>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>> >>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the >>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to >>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, >>>> of course): >>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>> >>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including >>>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the >>>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> >>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a >>>> competing system. And still failed. >>>> >>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video >>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion >>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My >>>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>> >>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection >>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also >>>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the >>>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but >>>> Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why >>>> others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. >>>> There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>> >>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of >>>> the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results >>>> are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution >>>> for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to >>>> recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was >>>> about special search results per OS. Weird. >>>> >>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not >>>> find a good method). >>>> >>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com >>>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I >>>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF >>>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients >>>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so >>>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>> >>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and >>>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's >>>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>> >>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created >>>> 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher >>>> (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting >>>> colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use >>>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets >>>> text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation >>>> of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>> >>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>> >>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC >>>> doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, >>>> but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a >>>> sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word >>>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what >>>> Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities >>>> (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>> >>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully >>> crafted your tests to show that. >>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter >>> months but not so great during the summer months. >>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation >>> where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. >>> Ever. >>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks >>> that your Mac would trip over as well. >> >> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again >> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >> > > Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS > handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me. That's not what Ronb is saying. He is saying that anything on another OS that doesn't work like a Mac is a bug. You seem fixated on things the Mac does well and that's fine but you ignore the things other OS do well that the Mac can't. Example, upgrades and newer hardware. Soldered in memory and so forth. Macs are tied to Thunderbolt. Good luck. Nice attempt at spin though.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 21:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fv94vnFacrqU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465894 |
On 9/4/18 7:26 PM, William Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> On 9/4/18 4:49 PM, RonB wrote: >>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This >>>>>>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been >>>>>>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ >>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on >>>>>>>>>>> local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their >>>>>>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey >>>>>>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of >>>>>>>> making excuses for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now >>>>>> provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been >>>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show >>>>> itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>> >>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, >>>>> whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this >>>>> can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see >>>>> how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow >>>>> would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>> >>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. >>>>> For me these were done just to show something else: >>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked >>>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before >>>>> coming up with the task. >>>>> >>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders >>>>> of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: >>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>> >>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the >>>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to >>>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, >>>>> of course): >>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>> >>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including >>>>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the >>>>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> >>>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a >>>>> competing system. And still failed. >>>>> >>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video >>>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion >>>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My >>>>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>> >>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection >>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also >>>>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the >>>>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but >>>>> Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why >>>>> others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had >>>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. >>>>> There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>> >>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of >>>>> the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results >>>>> are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution >>>>> for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to >>>>> recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was >>>>> about special search results per OS. Weird. >>>>> >>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not >>>>> find a good method). >>>>> >>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com >>>>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I >>>>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF >>>>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients >>>>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so >>>>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. >>>>> >>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and >>>>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's >>>>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>> >>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created >>>>> 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher >>>>> (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting >>>>> colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use >>>>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets >>>>> text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation >>>>> of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>> >>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>> >>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC >>>>> doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, >>>>> but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a >>>>> sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word >>>>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what >>>>> Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities >>>>> (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>>> >>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully >>>> crafted your tests to show that. >>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter >>>> months but not so great during the summer months. >>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation >>>> where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. >>>> Ever. >>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks >>>> that your Mac would trip over as well. >>> >>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again >>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>> >> >> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS >> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me. > > That's not what Ronb is saying. Well, he thought of the idea of Linux being like a Mac and then projected it onto me. He tried to speak for me... but the fact is HE is the one who came up with the idea that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug". And that is an absurd thought. > He is saying that anything on another OS that doesn't work like a Mac is a > bug. He is... but then projecting it onto me. > You seem fixated on things the Mac does well and that's fine but you ignore > the things other OS do well that the Mac can't. Such as? I have listed some and would LOVE to see example tasks. > Example, upgrades and newer hardware. Sure... and older hardware. > Soldered in memory and so forth. Sure... and cost of acquisition. Also *many* number crunching tasks, and most things best handled by the command line. Notice I speak not just of hardware but software... and task completion. Linux kicks macOS's bug in many such tasks. > Macs are tied to Thunderbolt. > Good luck. > > Nice attempt at spin though. I am noting how RonB came up with the idea of Linux not being like a Mac being a "bug". And he did. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-04 22:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <712624b6-7b08-467e-b56b-ce674946b08b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465901 |
On Tuesday, September 4, 2018 at 9:39:23 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 9/4/18 7:26 PM, William Barnes wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 -0700, Snit wrote: > > > >> On 9/4/18 4:49 PM, RonB wrote: > >>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: > >>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. This > >>>>>>>>>>>> is like Php, which has also been called crap because there's been > >>>>>>>>>>>> so much garbage code written in it... any language can be misused. > >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. Heck, M$ > >>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it on > >>>>>>>>>>> local machine ;) > >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at their > >>>>>>>>> jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* nintey > >>>>>>>>> fscking percent of the desktop market. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve instead of > >>>>>>>> making excuses for it. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? > >>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but now > >>>>>> provides a pretty stellar experience. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been > >>>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show > >>>>> itself well. In others, not so much. > >>>>> > >>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online map, > >>>>> whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I know this > >>>>> can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just curious to see > >>>>> how you people would generally do it and how streamlined the workflow > >>>>> would be. A couple ways I might: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post > >>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area highlighting. > >>>>> For me these were done just to show something else: > >>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked > >>>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before > >>>>> coming up with the task. > >>>>> > >>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing borders > >>>>> of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do here: > >>>>> <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the > >>>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to > >>>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact same, > >>>>> of course): > >>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, including > >>>>> with the top range expanding as needed and a color change with the > >>>>> bar. More details here: <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> > >>>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a > >>>>> competing system. And still failed. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video > >>>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion > >>>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. My > >>>>> end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection > >>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. Also > >>>>> have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and end the > >>>>> connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few took it on, but > >>>>> Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN services, so makes sense why > >>>>> others have not done it! I did end up with a VPN service and once I had > >>>>> that the challenge was pretty trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. > >>>>> There are, of course, much better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter of > >>>>> the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My results > >>>>> are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented a solution > >>>>> for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann failed to > >>>>> recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and thought it was > >>>>> about special search results per OS. Weird. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no > >>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA > >>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could not > >>>>> find a good method). > >>>>> > >>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of allrecipes.com > >>>>> (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of several versions I > >>>>> did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not only worked, but the PDF > >>>>> had selectable text and allowed me to do quick searches on ingredients > >>>>> and the like... something Owl was never able to do on Linux. Worked so > >>>>> well that he and Peter Köhlmann insisted it must have been faked. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation and > >>>>> include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. Snit's > >>>>> solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. > >>>>> > >>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current > >>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl created > >>>>> 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a launcher > >>>>> (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually selecting > >>>>> colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my solution -- can use > >>>>> exact colors from images or approximate for more variability (and sets > >>>>> text color based on brightness), fully automated -- video shows creation > >>>>> of 50 with changing background: <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> > >>>>> > >>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: > >>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) > >>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) > >>>>> > >>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I > >>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can show SC > >>>>> doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the same thing, > >>>>> but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was clearly a > >>>>> sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had been playing word > >>>>> games and showing deep insecurity over SC not being able to do what > >>>>> Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap in their capabilities > >>>>> (other than to both be spreadsheets). > >>>> > >>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully > >>>> crafted your tests to show that. > >>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter > >>>> months but not so great during the summer months. > >>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a situation > >>>> where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. > >>>> Ever. > >>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of tasks > >>>> that your Mac would trip over as well. > >>> > >>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again > >>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." > >>> > >> > >> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS > >> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me. > > > > That's not what Ronb is saying. > > Well, he thought of the idea of Linux being like a Mac and then > projected it onto me. He tried to speak for me... but the fact is HE is > the one who came up with the idea that Linux not working like a Mac is a > "bug". And that is an absurd thought. > > > He is saying that anything on another OS that doesn't work like a Mac is a > > bug. > > He is... but then projecting it onto me. > > > You seem fixated on things the Mac does well and that's fine but you ignore > > the things other OS do well that the Mac can't. > > Such as? I have listed some and would LOVE to see example tasks. > > > Example, upgrades and newer hardware. > > Sure... and older hardware. > > > Soldered in memory and so forth. > > Sure... and cost of acquisition. Also *many* number crunching tasks, and > most things best handled by the command line. Notice I speak not just of > hardware but software... and task completion. Linux kicks macOS's bug in > many such tasks. > > > Macs are tied to Thunderbolt. > > Good luck. > > > > Nice attempt at spin though. > > I am noting how RonB came up with the idea of Linux not being like a Mac > being a "bug". And he did. > > > > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> You've proven only what a moron you are. Of course my first statement stands sincere and correct. Sockboy has yet to show how any Linux program does anything above the basics on Linux. No one who isn't just using you for criminal advantage (isn't a sock) sees you as anything remotely close to honest. You have no one but yourself to point to for that. -- E-commerce Simplified http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/BilkHelp.html http://www.5z8.info/michaelangelo-virus_t6v2vq_molotovcocktail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZNxaaKD7-c Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 07:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <nrgvodp82goes38m7ma7aes8nhkij3q6gn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #465894 |
William Barnes wrote: > some thing wrote: >> >> RonB wrote: >>> >>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again >>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >> >> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS >> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me. > >That's not what Ronb is saying. Duh. Some of us think that attacking someone with such blatant, ridiculous dishonesty warrants immediate plonking. >Nice attempt at spin though. No. A rather pathetic trolling attempt, actually. I don't know why many seemingly reasonable people, over the years, have been willing to engage with it. -- "your herd insisted Linus Torvalds invented the computer." - some thing, lying shamelessly (but no one can quote it lying)
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 07:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <cmhvod9psvj3l6r4oii89r0abo0n0jaii3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #465929 |
chrisv wrote: >No. Hmm... Apparently I forgot to actually KF "William" yesterday. -- "Of course they'll always say they use kill files, but how can they if they are using windows?" - some stupid POS that called itself "GreyCloud"
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 07:36 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fva7vvFhaqiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #465929 |
On 9/5/18 5:03 AM, chrisv wrote: > William Barnes wrote: > >> some thing wrote: >>> >>> RonB wrote: >>>> >>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again >>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>> >>> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS >>> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me. >> >> That's not what Ronb is saying. > > Duh. Some of us think that attacking someone with such blatant, > ridiculous dishonesty warrants immediate plonking. > >> Nice attempt at spin though. > > No. A rather pathetic trolling attempt, actually. I don't know why > many seemingly reasonable people, over the years, have been willing to > engage with it. It is simply a fact that RonB is the one who brought up the bizarre idea that Linux not acting like a Mac is a "bug". It is an absurd claim. The fact he falsely attributed it to me does not in any way change the fact that it is HIS idea. If you really think such "blatant, ridiculous dishonesty warrants immediate plonking" then by all means plonk RonB. I will continue to feel free to respond to his lies and his obsession with me. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 07:55 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <668e1eed-f5b6-4441-a2f0-90a84e7906d5@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #465942 |
On Wednesday, September 5, 2018 at 7:36:51 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 9/5/18 5:03 AM, chrisv wrote: > > William Barnes wrote: > > > >> some thing wrote: > >>> > >>> RonB wrote: > >>>> > >>>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you again > >>>> (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." > >>> > >>> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS > >>> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me. > >> > >> That's not what Ronb is saying. > > > > Duh. Some of us think that attacking someone with such blatant, > > ridiculous dishonesty warrants immediate plonking. > > > >> Nice attempt at spin though. > > > > No. A rather pathetic trolling attempt, actually. I don't know why > > many seemingly reasonable people, over the years, have been willing to > > engage with it. > > It is simply a fact that RonB is the one who brought up the bizarre idea > that Linux not acting like a Mac is a "bug". It is an absurd claim. The > fact he falsely attributed it to me does not in any way change the fact > that it is HIS idea. > > If you really think such "blatant, ridiculous dishonesty warrants > immediate plonking" then by all means plonk RonB. I will continue to > feel free to respond to his lies and his obsession with me. > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> Ha, ha! So, yeah, I buy into my own fiction, fully knowing it is not real, because it makes me reconsider my program, improving it. Frankly I do not really think you understand. The entire farce is full of ridiculous gaps and leans heavily on Klaus 'The Flooder' Schadenfreude's 'many certificates' nonsense. But Klaus 'The Flooder' Schadenfreude feels the need to please the herd. So be it. Besides Klaus 'The Flooder' Schadenfreude, who doesn't know what I'm doing? - Get Rich Slow https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/smzXrBhsWf4 https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/smzXrBhsWf4 http://www.5z8.info/freeanimalporn.com-start-download_s9j7do_dogporn Jonas Eklundh
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-05 16:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <GMTjD.57073$Vl2.51539@fx46.iad> |
| In reply to | #465894 |
On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 22:26:36 -0400, William Barnes wrote: > On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 17:24:31 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> On 9/4/18 4:49 PM, RonB wrote: >>> On 2018-09-04, William Barnes <idonthvanemaildou@mail.com> wrote: >>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 11:48:29 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 9/4/18 8:58 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, 04 Sep 2018 10:05:19 -0400, William Barnes wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2018 06:37:19 -0700, Snit wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/4/18 5:33 AM, chrisv wrote: >>>>>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> JS has more than its share of warts but they can be avoided. >>>>>>>>>>>> This is like Php, which has also been called crap because >>>>>>>>>>>> there's been so much garbage code written in it... any >>>>>>>>>>>> language can be misused. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Exactly. That is why it is bad idea to run it in browser. >>>>>>>>>>> Heck, M$ >>>>>>>>>>> had even better idea: download binary from internet and run it >>>>>>>>>>> on local machine ;) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> How'd that work out? :-D >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It worked-out quite well! M$ is, of course, so much better at >>>>>>>>> their jobs than everyone else on the planet, that they *deserve* >>>>>>>>> nintey fscking percent of the desktop market. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> According to the "logic" of trolling idiots, anyway. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you want desktop Linux to compete better help it improve >>>>>>>> instead of making excuses for it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Where do you feel Linux is lacking? >>>>>>> Be specific and market share != lacking. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'll be the first to say that it might have lacked in the past but >>>>>> now provides a pretty stellar experience. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Would love to see you revisit some of the past tasks that have been >>>>> talked about. Here is my list... and notice in some Linux does show >>>>> itself well. In others, not so much. >>>>> >>>>> * From a single online recipe (or art project, lesson plan, online >>>>> map, whatever) save and email a PDF version with annotations. Now I >>>>> know this can be done on Linux; save, open, annotate, email. Just >>>>> curious to see how you people would generally do it and how >>>>> streamlined the workflow would be. A couple ways I might: >>>>> <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>. >>>>> >>>>> * Make a screencast with cursor replacement / resizing (post >>>>> production), window highlighting, zooming, arbitrary area >>>>> highlighting. For me these were done just to show something else: >>>>> <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>. I have many other options but picked >>>>> these because they fit the real-world example I did shortly before >>>>> coming up with the task. >>>>> >>>>> * From an image of a forest, automate creation of lines showing >>>>> borders of where the trees are. Example of what I was able to do >>>>> here: <http://imgur.com/a/xdOpx>. No solution was shown for Linux. >>>>> >>>>> * Getting a WayBackArchive page and getting images of all links, the >>>>> HTML validation and CSS validation from W3.org, and a active link to >>>>> the archive page, as I did here (does not have to look the exact >>>>> same, of course): >>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/sandman/sandman-archive.pdf>. >>>>> >>>>> * Starting with a spreadsheet 3D chart, have it be animated, >>>>> including with the top range expanding as needed and a color change >>>>> with the bar. More details here: >>>>> <http://tmp.gallopinginsanity.com/bar512> >>>>> (also shows Owl's solution). Marek tried but gave up and tried on a >>>>> competing system. And still failed. >>>>> >>>>> * Make a video with an image appears to stay still even as the video >>>>> bounces some, and have the image disappear in a come-and-go fashion >>>>> sort of like seen on Doctor Who, and add multiple layers of sound. >>>>> My end result here: <https://youtu.be/jYqMGjGiqHg>. >>>>> >>>>> * Write a script that monitors VPN connections: if the connection >>>>> terminates the applications using that connection also terminate. >>>>> Also have the script detect apps not wanted to go over the VPN and >>>>> end the connection when appropriate. Challenge from Marek -- few >>>>> took it on, but Marek says he pays about $2000/year for VPN >>>>> services, so makes sense why others have not done it! I did end up >>>>> with a VPN service and once I had that the challenge was pretty >>>>> trivial: <https://youtu.be/CSJ_NgWE_ro>. There are, of course, much >>>>> better ways to achieve the goals Marek states. >>>>> >>>>> * Do a search for a number of names (or other terms) and each letter >>>>> of the alphabet to see suggested searches are for each letter. My >>>>> results are here: <https://youtu.be/QmUPMhiyIKE>. Owl also presented >>>>> a solution for Linux (lost the link but it worked). Peter Köhlmann >>>>> failed to recognize it as a repetitive / scripting challenge and >>>>> thought it was about special search results per OS. Weird. >>>>> >>>>> * Create a bunch of folders as a general user would (GUI and no >>>>> scripting) <https://youtu.be/r-Web_U_HeU>. Nobody else in COLA >>>>> provided a solution: both Owl and Marek showed scripts (they could >>>>> not find a good method). >>>>> >>>>> * Download as PDFs all the recipes from the homepage of >>>>> allrecipes.com (Owl is the one who suggested this). Here is one of >>>>> several versions I did: <https://youtu.be/_J4PppWroWY>. Mine not >>>>> only worked, but the PDF had selectable text and allowed me to do >>>>> quick searches on ingredients and the like... something Owl was >>>>> never able to do on Linux. Worked so well that he and Peter Köhlmann >>>>> insisted it must have been faked. >>>>> >>>>> * Owl created a similar challenge: script multiple-folder creation >>>>> and include some questions. Owl's solution: <https://vid.me/BjHo>. >>>>> Snit's solution: <https://youtu.be/ZIm1-X-ZugM>. >>>>> >>>>> * Owl's: Open terminal windows with colors to match the current >>>>> background image, but which are not the same as each other. Owl >>>>> created 52K launchers which are tied to colors, and then selects a >>>>> launcher (color) manually with the idea this let him avoid manually >>>>> selecting colors (?!): <https://vid.me/Ifdo>. I automated my >>>>> solution -- can use exact colors from images or approximate for more >>>>> variability (and sets text color based on brightness), fully >>>>> automated -- video shows creation of 50 with changing background: >>>>> <http://youtu.be/B5pQlJNWnWM> >>>>> >>>>> * Rename / move an open word processor file: >>>>> Snit's <https://youtu.be/7BnKhLuW8nM?t=32s> (quick and elegant) >>>>> Owl's: <http://youtu.be/W15g0TwA_E0> (leads to loss of data!) >>>>> >>>>> * This was specifically for Owl (something I do not do often). I >>>>> challenged Owl that I can "show" anything in Numbers that he can >>>>> show SC doing. Owl showed this: <https://vid.me/Kf0cq>. I showed the >>>>> same thing, but in Numbers: <https://youtu.be/ho18yLx_HIg>. This was >>>>> clearly a sucker's bet... just having some fun given how Owl had >>>>> been playing word games and showing deep insecurity over SC not >>>>> being able to do what Numbers can, even though they hardly overlap >>>>> in their capabilities (other than to both be spreadsheets). >>>> >>>> Clearly you are looking for Linux to imitate a Mac and you carefully >>>> crafted your tests to show that. >>>> A pair of snowshoes is excellent for hiking the Rockies during winter >>>> months but not so great during the summer months. >>>> I have to say in 40 years in the computer field I have not had a >>>> situation where I have had to perform even one of your list of tasks. >>>> Ever. >>>> I'm sure an experienced Linux user could design a similar list of >>>> tasks that your Mac would trip over as well. >>> >>> "Snit" is nothing if not monotonous. Don't worry, he'll remind you >>> again (and again) that Linux not working like a Mac is a "bug." >>> >>> >> Why would you want Linux to work like a Mac? Do you think how macOS >> handles things is the only good way? Just seems bizarre to me. > > That's not what Ronb is saying. > He is saying that anything on another OS that doesn't work like a Mac is > a bug. > You seem fixated on things the Mac does well and that's fine but you > ignore the things other OS do well that the Mac can't. > Example, upgrades and newer hardware. > Soldered in memory and so forth. Soldered-on memory should have died with the 1980s. It's very sad that the Communists at Apple still think that the inability to upgrade or remove faulty memory in exchange for a thinner design is a great deal. > Macs are tied to Thunderbolt. > Good luck. > > Nice attempt at spin though. Thunderbolt is a fantastic format that nobody other than Apple is interested in supporting... -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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