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| Started by | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| First post | 2018-07-26 13:25 +0000 |
| Last post | 2018-07-27 13:08 -0700 |
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What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 13:25 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:19 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 15:20 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:23 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 16:12 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:34 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:09 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 13:53 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:05 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:50 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:28 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-26 12:18 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:36 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 11:09 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:43 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:15 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 13:55 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 20:47 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 14:00 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:48 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 15:02 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:22 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:07 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:33 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:27 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 17:33 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:44 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:29 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 22:22 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:58 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:04 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:45 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 22:52 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:23 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:31 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:40 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:38 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:10 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:16 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 07:03 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 13:13 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 08:46 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 15:46 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:33 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 16:40 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:51 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:06 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 17:12 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:21 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:37 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:15 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:14 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:33 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:12 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 13:00 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:16 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:03 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 08:11 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 08:23 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 09:01 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter GasPipe <vinnythegaspipe@motz.org> - 2018-07-28 13:18 -0400
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 09:16 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 09:28 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:12 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:50 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:31 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:07 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:23 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:59 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:50 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:36 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:49 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:12 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:32 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:33 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 07:23 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 05:40 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 07:45 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 08:58 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 16:13 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 09:26 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-08-06 11:57 -0400
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:09 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:14 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:03 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:35 +0000
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:47 -0500
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:11 -0700
Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:08 -0700
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 14:03 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6b4b951f-ab4d-4fdc-83ee-950db68975dd@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #459886 |
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 2:16:29 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 7/27/18 1:00 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: (snip) > >>> My take: Anyone who tries to shoot multiple people has mental issues of > >>> some sort. With that, I'm not excluding the potential it's politically driven. > >>> To me the question is: Just how mentally unfit was he? > >>> > >> > >> You are mixing colloquial and medical views of mental illness. > > > > Where did *I* do that? > > Above, where you talked about him being mentally ill Quote where *I* "talked about him being mentally ill". You can't. > (or at least havign "issues" in a discussion of illness) So you're now arguing that the only status under which a person can have mental "issues" is that of "being mentally ill" (and do you even realize that's the implication here? I'm betting: no)? Notably... I asked Slimer what I did, using the terms that I used, because I wasn't convinced the guy is "mentally ill. Even Slimer's first mention of it was in quotes, in what I read as his complaint of the creating of a PC motivated (pro-Muslim) narrative. > > Back to the topic I was talking about, you believe mass shooters > > kill people without any connection or use of their brain? > > Of course not. What a silly comment... Given yours, it's a logical comment. So you're open to what I said, that there is a mental issue involved when someone is engaging in a mass shooting? Hold that thought... Here's your problem.. if you answer "yes", you're forced to admit your original comment was erroneous; if you say "no", you just called yourself "silly". See why paying attention to what even *you* write is important? Yeah... because "others" *are* paying attention ;) > and shows you are going into your > game mode. No, it's actually fundamental to my point and the comment you made about it. > > I don't, I > > believe there is some underlying mental issue or issues that cause > > them to act. This doesn't necessarily mean they are 'mentally ill', > > it does suggest that they were not fit, mentally, *at the time* of > > their action. > > OK, fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. Frankly, I don't see why this would require clarification as it seems rather obvious. > > Being that no one has ever, or are they likely to be > > able to, study someone mentally *at the time* of the act, I don't > > buy all the egghead 'opinions' out there. > > Mental illness is not something that generally comes and goes like > that... just as other illnesses do not. Which is one reason I steered Slimer away from that term. > > If someone is doing this > > stuff they are, to me, *obviously* having *some* mental issue > > *at the time* they're doing it. I'm sure you'll now argue against it > > but there really is such a thing as temporary insanity. > > You are "sure" of some odd things about me that are not at all true. Sure. Given your statements why shouldn't I expect you to argue that?
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-28 08:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fs3fclF1g20U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #459899 |
On 7/27/18 2:03 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 2:16:29 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 7/27/18 1:00 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > (snip) >>>>> My take: Anyone who tries to shoot multiple people has mental issues of >>>>> some sort. With that, I'm not excluding the potential it's politically driven. >>>>> To me the question is: Just how mentally unfit was he? >>>>> >>>> >>>> You are mixing colloquial and medical views of mental illness. >>> >>> Where did *I* do that? >> >> Above, where you talked about him being mentally ill > > Quote where *I* "talked about him being mentally ill". You can't. > >> (or at least havign "issues" in a discussion of illness) > > So you're now arguing that the only status under which a person > can have mental "issues" is that of "being mentally ill" (and do you > even realize that's the implication here? I'm betting: no)? > > Notably... I asked Slimer what I did, using the terms that I used, > because I wasn't convinced the guy is "mentally ill. Even Slimer's first > mention of it was in quotes, in what I read as his complaint of the > creating of a PC motivated (pro-Muslim) narrative. > >>> Back to the topic I was talking about, you believe mass shooters >>> kill people without any connection or use of their brain? >> >> Of course not. What a silly comment... > > Given yours, it's a logical comment. > > So you're open to what I said, that there is a mental issue involved > when someone is engaging in a mass shooting? Hold that thought... > > Here's your problem.. if you answer "yes", you're forced to admit > your original comment was erroneous; if you say "no", you just called > yourself "silly". See why paying attention to what even *you* write > is important? Yeah... because "others" *are* paying attention ;) > >> and shows you are going into your >> game mode. > > No, it's actually fundamental to my point and the comment you made about it. > >>> I don't, I >>> believe there is some underlying mental issue or issues that cause >>> them to act. This doesn't necessarily mean they are 'mentally ill', >>> it does suggest that they were not fit, mentally, *at the time* of >>> their action. >> >> OK, fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. > > Frankly, I don't see why this would require clarification as it seems > rather obvious. > >>> Being that no one has ever, or are they likely to be >>> able to, study someone mentally *at the time* of the act, I don't >>> buy all the egghead 'opinions' out there. >> >> Mental illness is not something that generally comes and goes like >> that... just as other illnesses do not. > > Which is one reason I steered Slimer away from that term. > >>> If someone is doing this >>> stuff they are, to me, *obviously* having *some* mental issue >>> *at the time* they're doing it. I'm sure you'll now argue against it >>> but there really is such a thing as temporary insanity. >> >> You are "sure" of some odd things about me that are not at all true. Sure. > > Given your statements why shouldn't I expect you to argue that? > For crying out loud... I assumed you meant mental illnesses based on the context (something which would NOT be a bizarre thing for someone to think). You said you did not. OK. I thanked you for the correction. There was a miscommunication and it was corrected. Cool. No use looking for fault. You, on the other hand, claimed to think I meant some really bizarre things... such as mass shooters doing what they do "without any connection or use of their brain" and more. No reasonable person would ever believe the things you attributed to me, and clearly that cannot be what I meant, but even when told you are wrong about what *I* think you refuse to move on and accept you did not understand. In both cases we misunderstood the other... but in my case I responded in a mature way and thanked you for the correction... you blame me for YOUR creation of absolutely bizarre ideas which you falsely attributed to me. You do this, of course, with many things... even your bot you falsely attribute to me. Grow up already. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-28 08:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <9f6ccbf0-2cb2-458e-b5ae-b48b1f6684d9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #459976 |
On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 9:11:20 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 7/27/18 2:03 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 2:16:29 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >> On 7/27/18 1:00 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > (snip) > >>>>> My take: Anyone who tries to shoot multiple people has mental issues of > >>>>> some sort. With that, I'm not excluding the potential it's politically driven. > >>>>> To me the question is: Just how mentally unfit was he? > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> You are mixing colloquial and medical views of mental illness. > >>> > >>> Where did *I* do that? > >> > >> Above, where you talked about him being mentally ill > > > > Quote where *I* "talked about him being mentally ill". You can't. > > > >> (or at least havign "issues" in a discussion of illness) > > > > So you're now arguing that the only status under which a person > > can have mental "issues" is that of "being mentally ill" (and do you > > even realize that's the implication here? I'm betting: no)? > > > > Notably... I asked Slimer what I did, using the terms that I used, > > because I wasn't convinced the guy is "mentally ill. Even Slimer's first > > mention of it was in quotes, in what I read as his complaint of the > > creating of a PC motivated (pro-Muslim) narrative. > > > >>> Back to the topic I was talking about, you believe mass shooters > >>> kill people without any connection or use of their brain? > >> > >> Of course not. What a silly comment... > > > > Given yours, it's a logical comment. > > > > So you're open to what I said, that there is a mental issue involved > > when someone is engaging in a mass shooting? Hold that thought... > > > > Here's your problem.. if you answer "yes", you're forced to admit > > your original comment was erroneous; if you say "no", you just called > > yourself "silly". See why paying attention to what even *you* write > > is important? Yeah... because "others" *are* paying attention ;) > > > >> and shows you are going into your > >> game mode. > > > > No, it's actually fundamental to my point and the comment you made about it. > > > >>> I don't, I > >>> believe there is some underlying mental issue or issues that cause > >>> them to act. This doesn't necessarily mean they are 'mentally ill', > >>> it does suggest that they were not fit, mentally, *at the time* of > >>> their action. > >> > >> OK, fair enough. Thanks for the clarification. > > > > Frankly, I don't see why this would require clarification as it seems > > rather obvious. > > > >>> Being that no one has ever, or are they likely to be > >>> able to, study someone mentally *at the time* of the act, I don't > >>> buy all the egghead 'opinions' out there. > >> > >> Mental illness is not something that generally comes and goes like > >> that... just as other illnesses do not. > > > > Which is one reason I steered Slimer away from that term. > > > >>> If someone is doing this > >>> stuff they are, to me, *obviously* having *some* mental issue > >>> *at the time* they're doing it. I'm sure you'll now argue against it > >>> but there really is such a thing as temporary insanity. > >> > >> You are "sure" of some odd things about me that are not at all true. Sure. > > > > Given your statements why shouldn't I expect you to argue that? > > > > > For crying out loud... I assumed you meant mental illnesses So what? You generally read into things instead of reading what was actually written. Who *hasn't* see this? >Grow up already. Said the guy who can't read... as it keeps affecting him in a myriad of ways ;) Stop blaming "others" for your problems, Mr. Victim.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-28 09:01 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fs3ibeF23c2U4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #459981 |
On 7/28/18 8:23 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: You could not even quote all of what I said before you went into your attacks and your blaming of me: ----- For crying out loud... I assumed you meant mental illnesses based on the context (something which would NOT be a bizarre thing for someone to think). You said you did not. OK. I thanked you for the correction. There was a miscommunication and it was corrected. Cool. No use looking for fault. You, on the other hand, claimed to think I meant some really bizarre things... such as mass shooters doing what they do "without any connection or use of their brain" and more. No reasonable person would ever believe the things you attributed to me, and clearly that cannot be what I meant, but even when told you are wrong about what *I* think you refuse to move on and accept you did not understand. In both cases we misunderstood the other... but in my case I responded in a mature way and thanked you for the correction... you blame me for YOUR creation of absolutely bizarre ideas which you falsely attributed to me. You do this, of course, with many things... even your bot you falsely attribute to me. Grow up already. ----- -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | GasPipe <vinnythegaspipe@motz.org> |
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| Date | 2018-07-28 13:18 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <fs3mruF36dfU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #459995 |
On Sat, 28 Jul 2018 09:01:50 -0700, Snit wrote: > On 7/28/18 8:23 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > You could not even quote all of what I said before you went into your > attacks and your blaming of me: > > ----- > For crying out loud... I assumed you meant mental illnesses based on the > context (something which would NOT be a bizarre thing for someone to > think). You said you did not. OK. I thanked you for the correction. > There was a miscommunication and it was corrected. Cool. No use looking > for fault. > > You, on the other hand, claimed to think I meant some really bizarre > things... such as mass shooters doing what they do "without any > connection or use of their brain" and more. No reasonable person would > ever believe the things you attributed to me, and clearly that cannot be > what I meant, but even when told you are wrong about what *I* think you > refuse to move on and accept you did not understand. > > In both cases we misunderstood the other... but in my case I responded > in a mature way and thanked you for the correction... you blame me for > YOUR creation of absolutely bizarre ideas which you falsely attributed > to me. > > You do this, of course, with many things... even your bot you falsely > attribute to me. Grow up already. > ----- Looks like snit is in Rainman mode already on a Saturday morning. He must be mixing medications again.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-31 09:16 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <6a4a1b3b-9641-4ab5-a532-7476723091a1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #459995 |
On Saturday, July 28, 2018 at 10:01:53 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 7/28/18 8:23 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > You could not even quote all of what I said No need, I got that you falsely claimed: "you talked about him being mentally ill" And I also got where you tried to falsely share the blame with me: "In both cases we misunderstood the other." You are the only one who misunderstood anything here. It was obvious you were as full of sh*t as you usually are so the rest of your statement was disqualified. When you're obviously spinning, you're not allowed to clarify your obvious BS, that's how it works. Don't like it? Stop your BS.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-31 09:28 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fsbh1dFqqqlU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #460561 |
On 7/31/18 9:16 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: You could not even quote all of what I said before you went into your attacks and your blaming of me: ----- For crying out loud... I assumed you meant mental illnesses based on the context (something which would NOT be a bizarre thing for someone to think). You said you did not. OK. I thanked you for the correction. There was a miscommunication and it was corrected. Cool. No use looking for fault. You, on the other hand, claimed to think I meant some really bizarre things... such as mass shooters doing what they do "without any connection or use of their brain" and more. No reasonable person would ever believe the things you attributed to me, and clearly that cannot be what I meant, but even when told you are wrong about what *I* think you refuse to move on and accept you did not understand. In both cases we misunderstood the other... but in my case I responded in a mature way and thanked you for the correction... you blame me for YOUR creation of absolutely bizarre ideas which you falsely attributed to me. You do this, of course, with many things... even your bot you falsely attribute to me. Grow up already. ----- -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 12:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fs1941FfvbnU11@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #459811 |
On 7/27/18 9:40 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 09:33:49 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > >> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:46:25 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote: >>> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:46:24 -0500, chrisv wrote: >>> >>>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> (snipped, unread) >>>> >>>> I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, >>>> thanks. >>> >>> It's not propaganda when it's true. >> >> How sure are you it's true that this shooter doesn't have mental issues? >> I read (somewhere) that he has. > > Because his co-workers talked about "bubbly" he was and the fact that he > never exhibited anything near a mental issue. What makes you think they had ANY access to his health information? > Also, the claim that he had > mental issues were broadcast to the public very quickly by a person who > isn't even a member of the family but rather a self-professed > spokesperson for Muslims in Canada. Who else said it is not relevant. > Besides, "mental issues" is the > excuse used _every_ _single_ _time_ a long Muslim attacks people. It's > getting old and was never believable to begin with. Surely then you must feel it is wrong how blacks and Latinos are treated by the media, right? <http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/0022427818787225?journalCode=jrca> OR <https://goo.gl/hUN486> ----- Quantitative findings show that Whites and Latinos are more likely to have their crime attributed to mental illness than Blacks. Qualitative findings show that rhetoric within these discussions frame White men as sympathetic characters, while Black and Latino men are treated as perpetually violent threats to the public. ----- -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 09:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1eb3dda2-5a86-4b16-b147-328b27940c91@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #459809 |
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:33:52 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:46:25 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:46:24 -0500, chrisv wrote: > > > > > SilverSlimer wrote: > > > > > >> (snipped, unread) > > > > > > I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, > > > thanks. > > > > It's not propaganda when it's true. > > How sure are you it's true that this shooter doesn't have mental issues? > I read (somewhere) that he has. Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh and Snit both lie endlessly and outrageously and continue to do so. So no point in showing any further kindness or control. Who does NOT know that this kind of hot air is Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh's MO, not the MO of Snit? It's all just projection... the trolling, the sock puppets, the writing of incomprehensible idiocy, the tantrums... the false bravado and eagerness to show how distressed he is over being banned from the sandbox for pissing in it again... just what Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh does. Frankly I do not really have any hope. It was Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh who was publicly asking how better to better his scams. I am not angry, to the contrary, I'm in stitches because Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh's crap is so obvious. He purposefully didn't introduce all the criteria that he would quickly insist are needed... and we all know why. At least he has his shills rushing to his rescue. Despite Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh's claim that he has "no experience in making trouble" (a lie as exposed by the fact that he destroyed CSMA with his crap) he was quoted asking programmers how they would automate posting through Google Groups. -- Curious how these posts are made? Email: mr@sandman.net
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 12:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <sclmldd769r9aa7vluits2vakcggnr63hh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #459809 |
Steve Carroll wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: >> >> It's not propaganda when it's true. But it is, when it's right-wing lies. I've already posted the truth: <4s1mld5h4n76nesuf9bnt7b1c48one8i3g@4ax.com> >How sure are you it's true that this shooter doesn't have mental issues? >I read (somewhere) that he has. All religious fundies are, basically, brainwashed. They believe whatever their parents taught them to believe. Theirs is the one true religion, and anyone who says otherwise is a heretic.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 12:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fs18rqFfvc7U6@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #459809 |
On 7/27/18 9:33 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:46:25 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote: >> On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:46:24 -0500, chrisv wrote: >> >>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> (snipped, unread) >>> >>> I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, >>> thanks. >> >> It's not propaganda when it's true. > > How sure are you it's true that this shooter doesn't have mental issues? > I read (somewhere) that he has. > Slimer's own links spoke of his mental illness issues. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 12:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <f6lmld5etfe2qbi965jtbmj3uit907n95i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #459800 |
SilverSlimer wrote: >See, even THAT is a leftist lie. The above is yet ANOTHER rightist lie.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 11:59 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fs18c8FfvbnU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #459800 |
On 7/27/18 8:46 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Fri, 27 Jul 2018 08:46:24 -0500, chrisv wrote: > >> SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> (snipped, unread) >> >> I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, >> thanks. > > It's not propaganda when it's true. > >> It's simply not true, no matter how hard you try to twist >> things. > > See, even THAT is a leftist lie. > >> That puerile, snittish video that you linked-to, mocking your moral and >> intellectual superiors, shows your colors. > > My colours are white and red for Poland and Canada. > > > At this point you have snipped the entire focus of the discussion to merely attack liberals... but you do not even say for what beliefs. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 11:50 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fs17saFfvc7U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #459787 |
On 7/27/18 6:46 AM, chrisv wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >> (snipped, unread) > > I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, > thanks. It's simply not true, no matter how hard you try to twist > things. > > That puerile, snittish video that you linked-to, mocking your moral > and intellectual superiors, shows your colors. > Snittish... yeah, I make straw men about liberals all the time. Not. Sigh. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 19:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pjfs85$d75$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #459787 |
On 2018-07-27, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >> (snipped, unread) > > I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, > thanks. It's simply not true, no matter how hard you try to twist > things. > > That puerile, snittish video that you linked-to, mocking your moral > and intellectual superiors, shows your colors. It was called satire. And it's funny because it's true. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 14:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <4ntmld5mbbsq7o7mnt84um2ksut1i6507l@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #459867 |
RonB wrote: >On 2018-07-27, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> SilverSlimer wrote: >> >>> (snipped, unread) >> >> I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, >> thanks. It's simply not true, no matter how hard you try to twist >> things. >> >> That puerile, snittish video that you linked-to, mocking your moral >> and intellectual superiors, shows your colors. > >It was called satire. And it's funny because it's true. No it's not. At least, not for the 10 seconds or so that I lasted, before finding something better to do than watch some right-wing snit make an asshole of himself.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 13:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <fs1ckiFfvc7U16@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #459872 |
On 7/27/18 12:49 PM, chrisv wrote: > RonB wrote: > >> On 2018-07-27, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> (snipped, unread) >>> >>> I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, >>> thanks. It's simply not true, no matter how hard you try to twist >>> things. >>> >>> That puerile, snittish video that you linked-to, mocking your moral >>> and intellectual superiors, shows your colors. >> >> It was called satire. And it's funny because it's true. > > No it's not. At least, not for the 10 seconds or so that I lasted, > before finding something better to do than watch some right-wing snit > make an asshole of himself. > I (Snit) am hardly right wing. :) -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 22:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pjg6io$pln$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #459872 |
On 2018-07-27, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > RonB wrote: > >>On 2018-07-27, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> SilverSlimer wrote: >>> >>>> (snipped, unread) >>> >>> I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, >>> thanks. It's simply not true, no matter how hard you try to twist >>> things. >>> >>> That puerile, snittish video that you linked-to, mocking your moral >>> and intellectual superiors, shows your colors. >> >>It was called satire. And it's funny because it's true. > > No it's not. At least, not for the 10 seconds or so that I lasted, > before finding something better to do than watch some right-wing snit > make an asshole of himself. I admit it wasn't the best of satire, but that's what it was. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-07-27 15:33 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <b076c8df-9a8d-4cde-846b-970f55ef6c9c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #459911 |
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 3:32:58 PM UTC-7, RonB wrote: > On 2018-07-27, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > > RonB wrote: > > > >>On 2018-07-27, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > >>> SilverSlimer wrote: > >>> > >>>> (snipped, unread) > >>> > >>> I don't need to read your "lefties are stupid and naive" propaganda, > >>> thanks. It's simply not true, no matter how hard you try to twist > >>> things. > >>> > >>> That puerile, snittish video that you linked-to, mocking your moral > >>> and intellectual superiors, shows your colors. > >> > >>It was called satire. And it's funny because it's true. > > > > No it's not. At least, not for the 10 seconds or so that I lasted, > > before finding something better to do than watch some right-wing snit > > make an asshole of himself. > > I admit it wasn't the best of satire, but that's what it was. > > -- > The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux. LOL! I am fan of C++, because that's where all the stimulating ingenuity is happening. Are you being idiotic on purpose? No no hell no. Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh never agreed to stop accusing good people of being like him. He lied about his trolling just as you would expect. Snit Glasser's computer has more scripts than Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh's. Snit Glasser wins. Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh loses. I have known autobots who argue better than you do. Thanks to Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh and his 'friends' you now need a reverse spam filter. Take a look, by and large I lately stopped giving him what he earned (as of this summer). If Snit Glasser and others start targeting him again I will, too... as I've always stated I would. I'm referring to good people here, not drive by loons, who he largely controls. What did Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh have to say about this amazing support from new posters? Most of the time he would try to lead Snit Glasser to trust they're real people who just happened to have not enough brains to see through his lies. And he expected people to believe this! -- Get Rich Slow!! https://youtu.be/dNhvVfD4zu4 http://prescottcomputerguy.com Jonas Eklundh
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-07-30 07:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qp0uldhfh2j4melopor4dj49kbdfcgqgsi@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #459911 |
RonB wrote: > (snipped, unread)
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