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Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter

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On 7/27/18 2:03 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 2:16:29 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote:
>> On 7/27/18 1:00 PM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> (snip)
>>>>> My take: Anyone who tries to shoot multiple people has mental issues of
>>>>> some sort. With that, I'm not excluding the potential it's politically driven.
>>>>> To me the question is: Just how mentally unfit was he?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> You are mixing colloquial and medical views of mental illness.
>>>
>>> Where did *I* do that?
>>
>> Above, where you talked about him being mentally ill
> 
> Quote where *I* "talked about him being mentally ill". You can't.
> 
>> (or at least havign "issues" in a discussion of illness)
> 
> So you're now arguing that the only status under which a person
> can have mental "issues" is that of "being mentally ill" (and do you
> even realize that's the implication here? I'm betting: no)?
> 
> Notably... I asked Slimer what I did, using the terms that I used,
> because I wasn't convinced the guy is "mentally ill. Even Slimer's first
> mention of it was in quotes, in what I read as his complaint of the
> creating of a PC motivated (pro-Muslim) narrative.
> 
>>> Back to the topic I was talking about, you believe mass shooters
>>> kill people without any connection or use of their brain?
>>
>> Of course not. What a silly comment...
> 
> Given yours, it's a logical comment.
> 
> So you're open to what I said, that there is a mental issue involved
> when someone is engaging in a mass shooting?  Hold that thought...
> 
> Here's your problem.. if you answer "yes", you're forced to admit
> your original comment was erroneous; if you say "no", you just called
> yourself "silly". See why paying attention to what even *you* write
> is important? Yeah... because "others" *are* paying attention ;)
> 
>> and shows you are going into your
>> game mode.
> 
> No, it's actually fundamental to my point and the comment you made about it.
> 
>>> I don't, I
>>> believe there is some underlying mental issue or issues that cause
>>> them to act. This doesn't necessarily mean they are 'mentally ill',
>>> it does suggest that they were not fit, mentally, *at the time* of
>>> their action.
>>
>> OK, fair enough. Thanks for the clarification.
> 
> Frankly, I don't see why this would require clarification as it seems
> rather obvious.
> 
>>> Being that no one has ever, or are they likely to be
>>> able to, study someone mentally *at the time* of the act, I don't
>>> buy all the egghead 'opinions' out there.
>>
>> Mental illness is not something that generally comes and goes like
>> that... just as other illnesses do not.
> 
> Which is one reason I steered Slimer away from that term.
> 
>>> If someone is doing this
>>> stuff they are, to me, *obviously* having *some* mental issue
>>> *at the time* they're doing it. I'm sure you'll now argue against it
>>> but there really is such a thing as temporary insanity.
>>
>> You are "sure" of some odd things about me that are not at all true. Sure.
> 
> Given your statements why shouldn't I expect you to argue that?
> 


For crying out loud... I assumed you meant mental illnesses based on the 
context (something which would NOT be a bizarre thing for someone to 
think). You said you did not. OK. I thanked you for the correction. 
There was a miscommunication and it was corrected. Cool. No use looking 
for fault.

You, on the other hand, claimed to think I meant some really bizarre 
things... such as mass shooters doing what they do "without any 
connection or use of their brain" and more. No reasonable person would 
ever believe the things you attributed to me, and clearly that cannot be 
what I meant, but even when told you are wrong about what *I* think you 
refuse to move on and accept you did not understand.

In both cases we misunderstood the other... but in my case I responded 
in a mature way and thanked you for the correction... you blame me for 
YOUR creation of absolutely bizarre ideas which you falsely attributed 
to me.

You do this, of course, with many things... even your bot you falsely 
attribute to me. Grow up already.


-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 13:25 +0000
  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:19 +0000
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 15:20 +0000
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:23 +0000
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 16:12 +0000
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:34 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:09 +0000
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        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:05 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 09:50 -0700
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:37 -0700
  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 09:28 -0700
  Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-26 12:18 -0500
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 10:36 -0700
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 11:09 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 12:43 -0700
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:15 +0000
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 13:55 -0700
    Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 20:47 +0000
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 14:00 -0700
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:48 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 15:02 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 15:22 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:07 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:33 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:27 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 17:33 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:44 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:29 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 22:22 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:58 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 20:04 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 18:45 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-26 22:52 +0000
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:23 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 16:31 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:40 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-26 16:38 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 17:10 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-26 14:16 -0700
      Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 07:03 -0500
        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 13:13 +0000
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 08:46 -0500
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 15:46 +0000
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:33 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 16:40 +0000
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:51 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:06 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-07-27 17:12 +0000
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:21 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 10:37 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:15 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:14 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:33 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:12 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 13:00 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:16 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 14:03 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 08:11 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-28 08:23 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-28 09:01 -0700
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                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-07-31 09:16 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-31 09:28 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:12 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 09:50 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:31 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 12:07 -0700
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 12:23 -0500
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:59 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:50 -0700
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:36 +0000
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:49 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:12 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 22:32 +0000
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 15:33 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 07:23 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 05:40 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-30 07:45 -0500
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 08:58 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-30 16:13 +0000
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-30 09:26 -0700
                Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2018-08-06 11:57 -0400
              Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:09 -0700
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 11:14 -0700
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        Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-07-27 19:35 +0000
          Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-07-27 14:47 -0500
            Re: What they're not telling you about the Toronto shooter Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-07-27 13:11 -0700
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