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| First post | 2018-06-06 12:25 -0700 |
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We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 12:25 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 16:35 -0400
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 17:52 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 18:14 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:39 -0700
No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 18:21 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 18:37 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 18:51 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:09 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:19 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:24 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:30 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 19:45 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:02 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:14 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:31 -0700
Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 20:46 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 20:49 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 22:11 -0600
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 21:22 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 11:32 -0700
Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 12:45 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 14:30 -0700
My kids give zero fucks. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 15:38 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:51 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:21 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 17:36 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:07 -0700
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 18:20 -0700
Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:53 +0000
Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:49 +0000
Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:40 -0700
Re: Re: Fabulous Fabian might be behind it ( the bot ). Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:54 +0000
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 16:24 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:07 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 17:24 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 17:44 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 17:55 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:19 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 18:23 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:52 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 19:48 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:25 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 20:32 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:52 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 21:16 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 21:56 -0700
I don't need WordPress. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 22:33 -0700
Re: I don't need WordPress. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
Re: I don't need WordPress. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:18 -0700
Social Security Disability (SSDI). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 09:33 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:39 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:11 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:17 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:42 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:49 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:55 -0700
Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 14:10 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:15 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 15:51 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:37 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 17:45 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 18:00 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 19:55 -0700
Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 09:22 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:06 -0700
Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 01:11 -0700
Re: I don't need WordPress. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:02 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 23:58 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:08 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:01 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 12:58 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:32 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:47 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:53 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:03 -0700
Re: Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:50 +0000
Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 18:29 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 18:36 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 18:56 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 19:49 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:30 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 20:43 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 20:55 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 21:19 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-07 21:37 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 21:58 -0700
"SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 23:17 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
If Michael Glasser were human, and not a lizard. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 23:48 -0700
Re: If Michael Glasser were human, and not a lizard. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:00 -0700
I wish Michael Glasser were just evil, and not hopelessly insane. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 00:24 -0700
Re: I wish Michael Glasser were just evil, and not hopelessly insane. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:26 -0700
Re: I wish Michael Glasser were just evil, and not hopelessly insane. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 01:00 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:07 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:13 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:36 -0700
Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 09:53 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:58 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:30 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:07 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:34 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:13 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:05 -0700
Re: Snit writes his own FanFic ? Proof ? Cite ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:32 -0700
Thank God for SSDI. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 13:44 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:47 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:54 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:51 -0700
Thank God for SSDI. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 14:00 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:12 -0700
Kids aren't my bag. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 14:32 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 15:52 -0700
Re: Thank God for SSDI. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 14:32 -0700
Re: "SeniorPeopleMeet.COM" wouldn't be the worst choice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:11 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 06:41 +0000
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 23:59 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 00:03 -0700
Re: Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:47 +0000
Re: Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:51 -0700
Re: Re: Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 17:06 +0000
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 09:48 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 12:13 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:21 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 13:48 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 13:51 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 14:32 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 14:48 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 15:53 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 16:54 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 16:59 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:05 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 17:27 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 17:39 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 17:47 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-08 18:04 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 04:12 +0000
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 21:31 -0700
Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 13:40 -0700
Re: Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2018-06-08 16:55 +0000
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:23 -0700
Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 21:24 -0700
Don't teach JavaScript without a proper goal in mind. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 20:00 -0700
Re: Don't teach JavaScript without a proper goal in mind. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 20:03 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:31 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-06 19:32 -0700
Re: No truth, Nothing to aspire to ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-06 22:47 -0400
NO TRUTH. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 20:28 -0700
Re: NO TRUTH. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-07 05:32 -0400
Harp playing, androgynous angels in the clouds ? Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 11:18 -0700
Re: Harp playing, androgynous angels in the clouds ? benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-07 16:42 -0400
Ben Jacoby takes _pride_ in his randomness, I don't. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 14:15 -0700
Re: Ben Jacoby takes _pride_ in his randomness, I don't. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-08 02:20 -0400
Worshiping Ignorance. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-07 23:36 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-08 11:42 -0400
" I can choose to do the opposite of what I prefer " -- Ben Jacoby. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-08 10:17 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 01:58 +0000
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-08 19:55 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 21:37 +0000
EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 14:51 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-06-09 22:01 +0000
To a retard, _everything_ is "random". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 15:11 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 15:13 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 15:54 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-09 22:54 +0000
People are forever MisQuoting Einstein; I correct them. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 16:40 -0700
Re: People are forever MisQuoting Einstein; I correct them. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 00:15 +0000
Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 17:42 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 00:59 +0000
God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 18:28 -0700
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 01:42 +0000
Mark Twain was a determinist. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 20:16 -0700
Re: Mark Twain was a determinist. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-10 12:48 -0400
Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-10 10:51 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 11:10 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:02 -0400
Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 09:20 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is statistical, not complete. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:09 -0400
Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 14:32 -0700
Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 14:33 -0700
No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 15:00 -0700
Re: No one can "prove" ThermoDynamics and/or General Relativity, 100.00000000%. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 15:01 -0700
We assert _useful_ premises ( and ThermoDynamics is _Very_ useful ). Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 15:27 -0700
Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 19:57 -0400
Re: Bell's theorem is just another "I don't know". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-12 17:11 +0000
SuperDeterminism was useful to Einstein, and to me. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-12 12:03 -0700
Enjoy your silly hat. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-13 14:46 -0700
Sex toys/dolls. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-15 00:44 -0700
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 22:59 -0400
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2018-06-10 03:51 +0000
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-10 12:50 -0400
Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-10 11:01 -0700
Re: Mark Twain, Einstein and Stephen Hawking are revered by nerds benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 11:06 -0400
Asleep, living in a dream. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 10:04 -0700
Re: Asleep, living in a dream. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-06-11 14:22 -0500
Re: Asleep, living in a dream. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:21 -0400
Your house is built on sand. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 14:43 -0700
Re: God Doesn't Play Dice, he's not an idiot; nor is he a "he". Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-10 04:21 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 18:30 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 20:40 -0700
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-06-11 07:02 -0500
Re: Putting words in Einstein's mouth. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 05:17 -0700
Quantum Mechanics is _not_ complete. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 09:41 -0700
Re: Quantum Mechanics is _not_ complete. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 17:17 -0400
"statistics is [sic] real" -- Ben Jacoby. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 14:39 -0700
Re: "statistics is [sic] real" -- Ben Jacoby. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-11 14:53 -0700
When I hear the word "Quantum", I replace it with the word "BullShit". Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 15:09 -0700
Re: When I hear the word "Quantum", I replace it with the word "BullShit". Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-06-11 15:25 -0700
Re: "statistics is [sic] real" -- Ben Jacoby. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-11 20:00 -0400
" I can't know " -- Bell's Theorem. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-11 19:29 -0700
Re: EINSTEIN's category, far from the Pope. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-06-09 22:28 -0400
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-06-09 14:53 -0700
If the truth is your enemy... Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-09 00:14 -0700
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-06-09 06:52 -0400
Re: Worshiping Ignorance. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-09 05:26 -0700
Re: Harp playing, androgynous angels in the clouds ? Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-07 23:27 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:21 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 21:22 +0000
I feel rich, very rich. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-06-06 14:39 -0700
Re: We assert useful premises, disregarding the truth. Steven Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 14:52 -0700
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 17:37 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. |
| Message-ID | <3f5699b4-b5dd-46cf-b360-bbdcf21594d4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454494 |
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 4:51:13 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/8/18 2:10 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > > Last 15 years, Steve has been telling Mike: > >> if you ever begin to learn to comprehend what you read, > >> this 'context' stuff will become important ;) > > > > He (Mike) can't do it. Basically, you've been > > shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. > > > Amma ladda goochin, mumoo maluchin. "Interesting" phrase, Snit... and you've used it before in COLA: <D406A9DE.7DB0C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> What's even more "interesting" is that AppleScript also contains random numbers and delays, 2 things you feigned ignorance of when you were busy in the following thread, trying to pin your kiddie crap on me: <dde63fe1-c104-4a93-98bb-8e0365426aed@googlegroups.com> So, how long are you gonna keep pushing this ridiculous BS story? We're all just *so* stupid here, aren't we <eyeroll>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 17:45 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. |
| Message-ID | <fo0m8oFbf4jU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454503 |
On 6/8/18 5:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 4:51:13 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 6/8/18 2:10 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>> Last 15 years, Steve has been telling Mike: >>>> if you ever begin to learn to comprehend what you read, >>>> this 'context' stuff will become important ;) >>> >>> He (Mike) can't do it. Basically, you've been >>> shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. >>> >> Amma ladda goochin, mumoo maluchin. > > "Interesting" phrase, Snit... and you've used it before in COLA: Gee, people tend to use the same phrases over time. How amazingly interesting. Wow. > <D406A9DE.7DB0C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> > > What's even more "interesting" is that AppleScript also contains > random numbers and delays, No shit. > 2 things you feigned ignorance of Bullshit. > when you were busy in the following thread, trying to pin your > kiddie crap on me: > > <dde63fe1-c104-4a93-98bb-8e0365426aed@googlegroups.com> > > So, how long are you gonna keep pushing this ridiculous BS story? > We're all just *so* stupid here, aren't we <eyeroll> Ah, I hacked your account and am doing what it took you and Sandman years to figure out how to do. I am a Hollywood Hacker... exactly as you say. Sigh. Your games are growing more and more pathetic. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 18:00 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. |
| Message-ID | <7c53b6d6-9ca9-4cae-bc4d-543bc5ac23ac@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454505 |
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 6:45:15 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/8/18 5:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 4:51:13 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >> On 6/8/18 2:10 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > >>> Last 15 years, Steve has been telling Mike: > >>>> if you ever begin to learn to comprehend what you read, > >>>> this 'context' stuff will become important ;) > >>> > >>> He (Mike) can't do it. Basically, you've been > >>> shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. > >>> > >> Amma ladda goochin, mumoo maluchin. > > > > "Interesting" phrase, Snit... and you've used it before in COLA: > > Gee, people tend to use the same phrases over time. How amazingly > interesting ... that the phrase proved you were just playing stupid? Yes. > > <D406A9DE.7DB0C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> > > > > What's even more "interesting" is that AppleScript also contains > > random numbers and delays, > > No shit. > > > 2 things you feigned ignorance of > > Bullshit. Right. Rainman... you weren't playing stupid at all in that post <eyeroll>. > > when you were busy in the following thread, trying to pin your > > kiddie crap on me: > > > > <dde63fe1-c104-4a93-98bb-8e0365426aed@googlegroups.com> > > > > So, how long are you gonna keep pushing this ridiculous BS story? > > We're all just *so* stupid here, aren't we <eyeroll> > > Ah, I hacked your account and am doing what it took you and Sandman > years to figure out how to do. I am a Hollywood Hacker Said the Cowardly Liar as he strolled down the yellow brick road in yet another feeble attempt at misdirection. i don't get it. Where has *anyone* in COLA ever shown they fall for this kind of crap?
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 19:55 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. |
| Message-ID | <fo0tstFcgkoU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454508 |
On 6/8/18 6:00 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 6:45:15 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 6/8/18 5:37 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>> On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 4:51:13 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >>>> On 6/8/18 2:10 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >>>>> Last 15 years, Steve has been telling Mike: >>>>>> if you ever begin to learn to comprehend what you read, >>>>>> this 'context' stuff will become important ;) >>>>> >>>>> He (Mike) can't do it. Basically, you've been >>>>> shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. >>>>> >>>> Amma ladda goochin, mumoo maluchin. >>> >>> "Interesting" phrase, Snit... and you've used it before in COLA: >> >> Gee, people tend to use the same phrases over time. How amazingly >> interesting > > .... that the phrase proved you were just playing stupid? Yes. > >>> <D406A9DE.7DB0C%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> >>> >>> What's even more "interesting" is that AppleScript also contains >>> random numbers and delays, >> >> No shit. >> >>> 2 things you feigned ignorance of >> >> Bullshit. > > Right. Rainman... you weren't playing stupid at all in that post <eyeroll>. Your claim is a lie. It is absurd. It is utter nonsense. But you lie more in a day than I do in a year, so no big surprise. >>> when you were busy in the following thread, trying to pin your >>> kiddie crap on me: >>> >>> <dde63fe1-c104-4a93-98bb-8e0365426aed@googlegroups.com> >>> >>> So, how long are you gonna keep pushing this ridiculous BS story? >>> We're all just *so* stupid here, aren't we <eyeroll> >> >> Ah, I hacked your account and am doing what it took you and Sandman >> years to figure out how to do. I am a Hollywood Hacker > > Said the Cowardly Liar as he strolled down the yellow brick road > in yet another feeble attempt at misdirection. i don't get it. Where > has *anyone* in COLA ever shown they fall for this kind of crap? NOBODY really believes your crap about me hacking your account. That is the point. But you will lie and play games forever. OK. Enough. Good bye again for a while. I am kind and will give you another chance at some point but, face it, you are in your tantrum mode again where you do not even try to be reasonable. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-09 09:22 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Shouting "Walk!" to a paraplegic, every day, for decades. |
| Message-ID | <4f8a7168-8c5b-4fc1-b047-323f31e67dde@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454513 |
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 8:55:28 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: (snip red herring BS that seeks to obfuscate the obvious) > OK. Enough. Good bye again for a while. I am kind and will give you > another chance at some point but, face it, you are in your tantrum mode > again where you do not even try to be reasonable. Translation: Snit will do what he always does when he's been busted, pull back and wait for it to blow over... because we're all *so* stupid we'll forget what he is ivy tomorrow <eyeroll>.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 12:06 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). |
| Message-ID | <fo02d6Fp19uU21@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454425 |
On 6/8/18 9:33 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: >> if anyone ever needed anything, Snit needs WordPress. >> the website building portion of his business dried up >> because the web outpaced him > > Mike doesn't need WordPress nor anything like that. I do very little with web design at this point and have no real desire to. And I am no fan of CMS template systems though I absolutely understand the value of them. It is not that I am against them in general I just do not like the general generic look you get unless you spend a lot of time tweaking. If you are going to do that, esp. for the simple brochure sites I have done, why use a CMS with its added security risks anyway? Heck, one of the other sites I worked on, one Carroll found and lied about, they specifically did not want on WordPress or anything like it almost solely because of security risks. ... -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-09 01:11 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Social Security Disability (SSDI). |
| Message-ID | <7083b1d3-d064-4676-911d-0ee62af5dc37@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454425 |
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 9:33:56 AM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: > > if anyone ever needed anything, Snit needs WordPress. > > the website building portion of his business dried up > > because the web outpaced him > > Mike doesn't need WordPress nor anything like that. > > Most likely, he gets Social Security Disability (SSDI). Wow! How did Snit Glasser get _so_ vainglorious he thinks everything is about him?? Are you being stupid on purpose? No-one gets it, only Chris Ahlstrom gets it. Snit Glasser wants to hurt us: If Snit Glasser can't be the focus here then his flooding crap will. For all the crowing Snit Glasser's done on this topic, the 'UX Designer' does not know how to do this. It only takes a couple seconds to select a sentence and 'translate' it. I thought showing someone a little generosity might help the situation. It did not. Over and over, the surface request is he wants to "talk tech", but Snit Glasser spends most of his time whining about "obsession". -- Live on Kickstarter http://www.5z8.info/dogs-being-eaten_g0w7hf_molotovcocktail http://www.5z8.info/mydick_x6g9hr_nakedgrandmas.jpg Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 12:02 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: I don't need WordPress. |
| Message-ID | <fo026pF7sviU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454424 |
On 6/8/18 9:18 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 11:33:37 PM UTC-6, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: >> I don't need WordPress. >> >> Nor does Mike. > > I disagree, if anyone ever needed anything, Snit needs WP. I "need" it to rebuild MY website you tried to copy to YOUR tastes. You want me to design YOUR website for free. Not gonna happen. >> You (Steve) are preaching to yourself. > > Possibly, but someone who has had the website building portion of > his business dry up because the web outpaced him, would benefit > from using WP to keep that service relevant in the modern web era. Another lie from you. Holy cow... can you go a whole post without lying? -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 23:58 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <fnunogFp19uU12@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454357 |
On 6/7/18 9:56 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 10:16:24 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > > (snip BS) > >>>>>> I was talking tech: one can generally (though not always) tell if a site >>>>>> is a WordPress or similar type site from the template "look". >>>>> >>>>> So point to these telltale signs already. >>>> >>>> Take a look at these: >>>> >>>> <https://www.creativebloq.com/web-design/examples-wordpress-11121165> >>>> >>>> Most of those look like WordPress type template sites. >>> >>> Based on 'looking' at what? >> >> Those sites. They scream template... most likely WordPress. > > Do you even know what a "template" is and why it's *not* a catch-all term > that can bail you out here? Wordpress is *not* the CSS which makes a > given WP site look the way it does. And it's only "most likely WordPress" > because of how many sites are built using it now. > >>> Again, there's a reason you can't say. The reason you, in your mind, >>> so often believe you correctly 'guess' that a site is a WP site is based >>> on the fact that almost 1 in 3 sites are nowadays. >> >> That has zero to do with their look. > > AGAIN: WordPress has zero to do with their look. > >>> So while you're busy >>> 'guessing' you can't actually explain the things behind your 'guess', >>> because there aren't any. The odds are in WP's favor and you fail to >>> understand that. If you could say, you would... but you can't, so you >>> don't. You'll write 50 more posts and you won't be able to point to a >>> single thing. The fact is, CSS is what makes a site 'look' like it does, >>> WP has nothing to do with it. Need proof? Remove the style sheet(s). >> >> The fact you cannot see it is quite telling. > > So fire one up and remove the styling... tell me you can spot that it's a > WP site. Hint: this logic proves what I'm saying is true. > >> The menu structure and a big image on top. > > What about the "menu structure"? Be specific. And a "big image on > top"? Only templates sites have those, they're not 'in fashion' in the last > few years? > >> VERY common on WordPress and other such templates. >> They are "generic". > > They are *also* on virtually every kind of 'modern' site there is. > >> Here, instead of going into detail, this site does so fairly well: >> >> <https://www.primedesignsolutions.com/?p=1274> > > Same things... there is nothing there that isn't on virtually any > kind of modern site... on *every* kind of modern site. > >> Key point I was talking about: >> ----- >> Your site may look like everyone else’s. Skilled designers can minimize >> this problem with creative use of graphics and customization within the >> template, but the most popular themes have been downloaded thousands of >> times. >> ----- > > That's marketing crap... you'd *still* be guessing what it was and > you'd have a 1 in 3 shot that it's WP. Remove the styling, 'mystery' > solved! > >> And I will add that many templates look much alike. > > Many sites, templates or not, have a hero image and similar menus. > There are only so many things you can do and still have the thing > work well from a UI perspective. > >> There are certainly some nits to pick there... but it is a decent start >> for you. > > I suggest you get AMPPS and educate yourself. There are essentially > single click installers in AMMPS and you can have a local site up in > no time... no fussing with a stack (that the MacOS will keep crapping > on with every update unless you do certain things), just a simple install > and off you go. It's not just WP, either, you can install all kinds of stuff, > Moodle, real estate software, whatever, it's literally a dev playground: > > <https://streamable.com/t68x7> > It is not like I am pushing some secret knowledge here. I mean, really... WordPress is a fine tool -- I have nothing against it, but open your eyes to the world OUTSIDE of WordPress. <https://www.csdesignworks.com/blog/2016/08/template-vs-custom-website> ----- While template sites are easy and economical, they lack distinctiveness and customization. Perhaps the biggest set back is that template websites tend to all look the same. Yes, it is true that often you can customize the template to your liking and it is possible to create a relatively unique look but no matter how much you tweak it, the layout is still a template and will still have similarities to all the other users the same one. It happens too often that companies will choose a layout template and think the work is done; they fail to modify the design at all and this results in a carbon copy website. When competition is so high, the worst thing you can do is blend into the crowd. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve visited new websites and thought that I had been there before, simply because too many websites rely on the same template. Just because the layout looks nice, doesn’t mean it’s done and is the right design for your company. Another setback to using template websites is that you’re limited in your graphic design and navigation capability. While there is some degree of customization in templates, there will always be parameters that will hold you back. ----- <https://mayecreate.com/blog/custom-web-design-vs-website-template/> ----- Unique Design With a custom website, you are allowed and encouraged to show your company culture and personality through design. A unique design can be presented, revised and built into a custom template for your website. Yes, I said template because even custom sites have a template; it is just built from scratch rather than from a box. Think about your grandma’s chocolate cake, it just wouldn’t be the same if it were out of a box. ----- <https://www.inverseparadox.com/?p=3187> ----- • Lots of other businesses/competitors could be using the same template which means your site won’t stand out as much. • You are limited on how much you can customize the site; what you see is what you get. ----- And, heck, as much as you attack Dreamweaver, did you even know you can use Dreamweaver to make themes for WordPress? Likely not. It is not as though you have to use one OR the other (or either)... there are MANY ways to make a website and many tools and combinations of tools you can use. Template based CMS tools can be very powerful and speed up creation of a site, but they also generally leave you with a site that looks like a template. As I showed, even many highly rated WordPress sites *look* like a template... they have that generic look. Does not mean ALL do, of course, nor that NO non-CMS template based site has that look, but as a general rule if you point me (or most experienced web users) to a site they will have a pretty good chance to figure out, WITHOUT looking at the code, if a site is based on a template. The site of mine you keep pointing to has many weaknesses, but one thing many of my customers repeatedly tell me is they love how it has a custom feel. When they go to other sites of web developers -- people with FAR more skill and knowledge than I have -- the sites seem generic. If I wanted to pursue web development that is the are *I* would go in... CUSTOM built web sites. To do that, though, one has to have a LOT of different web-based skills (not just HTML and CSS and even decent JavaScipt knowledge but a lot more) and I opted long ago to not go that direction... just not my cup of tea. Heck, here you are saying you CANNOT tell when a site is template based BUT you also spent forever lying about my site being template based as one of your trolling attacks. My site is custom... NOT based on a template (which does not mean I did not use the internal Template feature of Dreamweaver, but it is a template *I* made, not some pre-made thing in a CMS). You looked at my code as you copied my site and saw the reference to a Template in the Dreamweaver code: <!-- InstanceBegin template="/Templates/CompGuy.dwt" codeOutsideHTMLIsLocked="false" --> From there YOU got the mistaken idea that Adobe created some template I used. You lied... out of malice and ignorance. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 09:08 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <11a2d41b-f74f-46cf-afde-a4d5d89eb495@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454377 |
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 12:58:27 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > It is not like I am pushing some secret knowledge here. You're not doing anything, including explaining what you've been asked. > I mean, > really... WordPress is a fine tool -- I have nothing against it, but > open your eyes to the world OUTSIDE of WordPress. Why would I do that to challenge your statement that you "can usually tell a Wordpress site" without the "need to go to the code"? You even said you could do so at a "glance" <shrug>. And... I have looked "OUTSIDE of WordPress", I've worked on Drupal, Joomla, Concrete5, MEAN and Bootstrap to name a few. I talk about WP with *you* because it's the easiest to work with. (snip irrelevant marketing garbage) So... care to define the word "template" as how it pertains to WP and your allegation that you "can usually tell a WordPress site" at a "glance"... with "no need to go to the code", now? > And, heck, as much as you attack Dreamweaver, did you even know you can > use Dreamweaver to make themes for WordPress? Of course I do... one could use TextEdit if so desired. Are you aware that there are tons of 'Dreamweaver Templates' that have these alleged telltale attributes you believe are isolated to Wordpress? > Likely not. It is not as > though you have to use one OR the other (or either)... there are MANY > ways to make a website and many tools and combinations of tools you can use. > > Template based CMS tools can be very powerful You don't even have a clue what the term "template" means in WordPress terminology. You're confusing it with the word "theme"... which, by the way, *also* relies on CSS to get the 'look'. Remove the styling and you remove the 'look'... on *any* site. That's a pretty big clue for you. What I'm saying is the use of the word "template" isn't helping your argument that you can do what you said you could... the argument you have yet to support. > and speed up creation of a > site, but they also generally leave you with a site that looks like a > template. As I showed, even many highly rated WordPress sites *look* > like a template... they have that generic look. Does not mean ALL do, of > course, nor that NO non-CMS template based site has that look, but as a > general rule if you point me (or most experienced web users) to a site > they will have a pretty good chance to figure out, WITHOUT looking at > the code, if a site is based on a template. > > The site of mine you keep pointing to has many weaknesses, but one thing > many of my customers repeatedly tell me is they love how it has a custom > feel. What, exactly, is custom about it? The header image? You tweaked the li and/or anchor tags to look like buttons? <https://imgur.com/a/qWfT69N> <https://imgur.com/a/yVrj38l> > When they go to other sites of web developers -- people with FAR > more skill and knowledge than I have -- the sites seem generic. You'll view this as an "attack" but that's your problem: It's becoming increasingly clear you don't have much skill or knowledge regarding websites so to have FAR more than you really isn't saying much. > If I > wanted to pursue web development that is the are *I* would go in... ??? Hello! You *already* offer building websites on your business site. To the lay person (a client) you are 'developing' a website for them. > CUSTOM built web sites. To do that, though, one has to have a LOT of > different web-based skills (not just HTML and CSS and even decent > JavaScipt knowledge but a lot more) and I opted long ago to not go that > direction... just not my cup of tea. Is this what you tell people who inquire about having you build them a site? Do you think that may be related to why you have no business? > Heck, here you are saying you CANNOT tell when a site is template based You specifically said you could "tell a WordPress site" and do so at "a glance", with "no need to go to the code" I'm still waiting for you to explain how you do that and you're still doing everything but that. (which is what I suggested you'd do)
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 12:01 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <fo024nFp19uU20@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454423 |
On 6/8/18 9:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 12:58:27 AM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >> It is not like I am pushing some secret knowledge here. > > You're not doing anything, including explaining what you've been asked. > >> I mean, >> really... WordPress is a fine tool -- I have nothing against it, but >> open your eyes to the world OUTSIDE of WordPress. > > Why would I do that to challenge your statement that you "can usually > tell a Wordpress site" without the "need to go to the code"? You even > said you could do so at a "glance" <shrug>. Because right now you have tied yourself so heavily to the idea of WordPress and other template based CMS systems you cannot see their downsides -- including the common template look. > And... I have looked "OUTSIDE of WordPress", I've worked on Drupal, > Joomla, Concrete5, MEAN and Bootstrap to name a few. I talk about > WP with *you* because it's the easiest to work with. Ah, your obsession with it is because of me. EVERYTHING in your life you blame on me. > (snip irrelevant marketing garbage) And you snipped evidence you did not like. Fair enough... you are never going to admit to your error. Got it. Not worth helping you understand what you have just shown you actively seek to stay ignorant about. ... >> The site of mine you keep pointing to has many weaknesses, but one thing >> many of my customers repeatedly tell me is they love how it has a custom >> feel. > > What, exactly, is custom about it? The header image? You tweaked the li > and/or anchor tags to look like buttons? > > <https://imgur.com/a/qWfT69N> > <https://imgur.com/a/yVrj38l> Those have NOTHING to do with my site. Not a thing. Oh, and I am pretty sure Adobe did not offer those until AFTER I made my site. But, hey, another one of your lies. You lie more in a day than I do in a year. >> When they go to other sites of web developers -- people with FAR >> more skill and knowledge than I have -- the sites seem generic. > > You'll view this as an "attack" but that's your problem: > It's becoming increasingly clear you don't have much skill or knowledge > regarding websites so to have FAR more than you really isn't saying much. And yet YOU are the one who is claiming to not be able to recognize the common template look... and then you actively snip content about it and insist it does not help you. You lie. You always lie. Then you blame me. It is what you do. ... >> Heck, here you are saying you CANNOT tell when a site is template based > > You specifically said you could "tell a WordPress site" and do so at "a glance", > with "no need to go to the code" I'm still waiting for you to explain how you do > that and you're still doing everything but that. > (which is what I suggested you'd do) Look at the the content you snip and read the context where I am clear WordPress or other template based CMS style tools. But, as always, you will lie. You will change the topic from tech to your obsession with me. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 12:58 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <771ce3dc-dbb8-4bf1-b3e0-4d99ecf57a49@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454452 |
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 1:01:47 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > And you snipped evidence you did not like. If you believe there was a single sentence in any of that marketing garbage that supports your claim feel free to quote it. > ... > >> The site of mine you keep pointing to has many weaknesses, but one thing > >> many of my customers repeatedly tell me is they love how it has a custom > >> feel. > > > > What, exactly, is custom about it? The header image? You tweaked the li > > and/or anchor tags to look like buttons? > > > > <https://imgur.com/a/qWfT69N> > > <https://imgur.com/a/yVrj38l> > > Those have NOTHING to do with my site. So you believe that you came up with the 2 column layout (with menu on left or right), header on the top, footer on the bottom and content in the middle all by yourself? You are the guy who 'invented' it? No? Ok... so what, exactly, is "custom" about that layout? Once you're honest about that (it may take 80 or 90 posts) we'll move on to the menu 'buttons' for another 50 or 60. Where will we go from there... <eyeroll>. > >> When they go to other sites of web developers -- people with FAR > >> more skill and knowledge than I have -- the sites seem generic. > > > > You'll view this as an "attack" but that's your problem: > > It's becoming increasingly clear you don't have much skill or knowledge > > regarding websites so to have FAR more than you really isn't saying much. > > And yet YOU are the one who is claiming to not be able to recognize the > common template look... You keep using the term... so what's a "template" with respect to how you're using it? My money says you're using it like this: <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Learn/Common_questions/Common_web_layouts> IOW, there is no common template "look", there are layouts that *all* sites commonly use... *not* just WordPress, and that has more to do with the fact there are a finite number of layouts that make sense from a design viewpoint. You're arguing that a lot of WP sites look similar because they use similar layouts... that are used by almost everyone else, as well. This is why you can't do what you've claimed, you've only fooled yourself into believing that. If a site doesn't have visible attributions, unless you recognize a specific theme for specific reasons, you can't pick out that it's WP at a glance with any degree of regularity.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 13:32 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <fo07e0Fp19uU25@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454463 |
On 6/8/18 12:58 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 1:01:47 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >> And you snipped evidence you did not like. > > If you believe there was a single sentence in any of that marketing garbage > that supports your claim feel free to quote it. > >> ... >>>> The site of mine you keep pointing to has many weaknesses, but one thing >>>> many of my customers repeatedly tell me is they love how it has a custom >>>> feel. >>> >>> What, exactly, is custom about it? The header image? You tweaked the li >>> and/or anchor tags to look like buttons? >>> >>> <https://imgur.com/a/qWfT69N> >>> <https://imgur.com/a/yVrj38l> >> >> Those have NOTHING to do with my site. > > So you believe that you came up with the 2 column layout (with menu > on left or right), header on the top, footer on the bottom and content in > the middle all by yourself? Seriously, I tell you that I did not use those templates and you start thinking I created the 2 column layout. For crying out loud, can you get any more inane? I suspect not! ... >> And yet YOU are the one who is claiming to not be able to recognize the >> common template look... > > You keep using the term... so what's a "template" with respect to how > you're using it? Templates like those used in WordPress and other CMS systems and the like. ... -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 13:47 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <dabef1ea-9dd5-474c-a395-e0aa565b1d9e@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454469 |
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/8/18 12:58 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 1:01:47 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > > > >> And you snipped evidence you did not like. > > > > If you believe there was a single sentence in any of that marketing garbage > > that supports your claim feel free to quote it. > > > >> ... > >>>> The site of mine you keep pointing to has many weaknesses, but one thing > >>>> many of my customers repeatedly tell me is they love how it has a custom > >>>> feel. > >>> > >>> What, exactly, is custom about it? The header image? You tweaked the li > >>> and/or anchor tags to look like buttons? > >>> > >>> <https://imgur.com/a/qWfT69N> > >>> <https://imgur.com/a/yVrj38l> > >> > >> Those have NOTHING to do with my site. > > > > So you believe that you came up with the 2 column layout (with menu > > on left or right), header on the top, footer on the bottom and content in > > the middle all by yourself? > > Seriously, I tell you that I did not use those templates and you start > thinking I created the 2 column layout. You seem to believe you made something 'custom' on it. Other than the images and content, what is it? > > You keep using the term... so what's a "template" with respect to how > > you're using it? > > Templates like those used in WordPress and other CMS systems and the like. Templates "used in WordPress and other CMS systems" are not responsible for the look of a site, in fact, without CSS they aren't dictating the layout, either. You're falling pretty to marketing crap and you don't even realize it.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 13:53 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <fo08mnF9340U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454474 |
On 6/8/18 1:47 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >> On 6/8/18 12:58 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>> On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 1:01:47 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: >>> >>>> And you snipped evidence you did not like. >>> >>> If you believe there was a single sentence in any of that marketing garbage >>> that supports your claim feel free to quote it. >>> >>>> ... >>>>>> The site of mine you keep pointing to has many weaknesses, but one thing >>>>>> many of my customers repeatedly tell me is they love how it has a custom >>>>>> feel. >>>>> >>>>> What, exactly, is custom about it? The header image? You tweaked the li >>>>> and/or anchor tags to look like buttons? >>>>> >>>>> <https://imgur.com/a/qWfT69N> >>>>> <https://imgur.com/a/yVrj38l> >>>> >>>> Those have NOTHING to do with my site. >>> >>> So you believe that you came up with the 2 column layout (with menu >>> on left or right), header on the top, footer on the bottom and content in >>> the middle all by yourself? >> >> Seriously, I tell you that I did not use those templates and you start >> thinking I created the 2 column layout. > > You seem to believe you made something 'custom' on it. Other than > the images and content, what is it? First, let us be clear you are ignoring your idiocy about me inventing the 2 column layout. This was your idea and it was beyond absurd and proof you are playing games. Do you REALLY need me to explain to you to the difference between a custom site and a template-based one? >>> You keep using the term... so what's a "template" with respect to how >>> you're using it? >> >> Templates like those used in WordPress and other CMS systems and the like. > > Templates "used in WordPress and other CMS systems" are not > responsible for the look of a site, in fact, without CSS they aren't > dictating the layout, either. You're falling pretty to marketing crap > and you don't even realize it. What part of that do you think has not been covered? Already talked about how there are exceptions. But you are just playing games. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 14:03 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <6ca65522-9cf6-4aa5-afac-8196e565dc52@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454480 |
On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 2:53:48 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/8/18 1:47 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 2:32:05 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >> On 6/8/18 12:58 PM, Steve Carroll wrote: > >>> On Friday, June 8, 2018 at 1:01:47 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > >>> > >>>> And you snipped evidence you did not like. > >>> > >>> If you believe there was a single sentence in any of that marketing garbage > >>> that supports your claim feel free to quote it. > >>> > >>>> ... > >>>>>> The site of mine you keep pointing to has many weaknesses, but one thing > >>>>>> many of my customers repeatedly tell me is they love how it has a custom > >>>>>> feel. > >>>>> > >>>>> What, exactly, is custom about it? The header image? You tweaked the li > >>>>> and/or anchor tags to look like buttons? > >>>>> > >>>>> <https://imgur.com/a/qWfT69N> > >>>>> <https://imgur.com/a/yVrj38l> > >>>> > >>>> Those have NOTHING to do with my site. > >>> > >>> So you believe that you came up with the 2 column layout (with menu > >>> on left or right), header on the top, footer on the bottom and content in > >>> the middle all by yourself? > >> > >> Seriously, I tell you that I did not use those templates and you start > >> thinking I created the 2 column layout. > > > > You seem to believe you made something 'custom' on it. Other than > > the images and content, what is it? > > Do you REALLY need me to explain to you to the difference between a > custom site and a template-based one? Now let's see, what could possibly be your reason for stalling... > >>> You keep using the term... so what's a "template" with respect to how > >>> you're using it? > >> > >> Templates like those used in WordPress and other CMS systems and the like. > > > > Templates "used in WordPress and other CMS systems" are not > > responsible for the look of a site, in fact, without CSS they aren't > > dictating the layout, either. You're falling pretty to marketing crap > > and you don't even realize it. > > What part of that do you think has not been covered? The part where your claim is backed. That you're stalling is a good indicator that even you know you're "wrong"; it's also a good indicator that you're not here to talk tech... so two bogus claims of yours go down in flames at once.
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| From | Sandman <mr@sandman.net> |
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| Date | 2018-06-08 16:50 +0000 |
| Subject | Re: Re: Arrogance is the bane of every ( brain dead ) feminist. |
| Message-ID | <sandman-ba0656572e46afbe65a97fc934bcbd5e@individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454336 |
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 18:29 -0700 |
| Subject | Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Jun.7--6.29pm.Seattle.2018> |
| In reply to | #454326 |
Mike told Steve: > I never post links to some dating profile > where I am looking for senior citizens. How do you know Steve isn't a senior citizen himself ? Should he seek _younger_ women ? > I do not post with uncounted number of socks as you do. Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! You're _openly_proud_ of your (storied) ChatBot, and your ability to switch IP addresses OnTheFly. > I do not even try to track and keep dibs on your life. > I do not care. You talk about him all day, every day, as if you knew his wife, kids and tax returns.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 18:36 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! |
| Message-ID | <fnu4tpFr8v7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #454341 |
On 6/7/18 6:29 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > Mike told Steve: >> I never post links to some dating profile >> where I am looking for senior citizens. > > How do you know Steve isn't a senior citizen himself ? > Should he seek _younger_ women ? He claimed to be younger and spoke of his interest in older women. I do not really care... but why would he do that? >> I do not post with uncounted number of socks as you do. > > Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! Not interested in such games. > You're _openly_proud_ of your (storied) ChatBot, > and your ability to switch IP addresses OnTheFly. > >> I do not even try to track and keep dibs on your life. >> I do not care. > > You talk about him all day, every day, > as if you knew his wife, kids and tax returns. > -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-06-07 18:56 -0700 |
| Subject | Re: Are you looking in the mirror again ? ! |
| Message-ID | <0fb18e03-8a3a-45ae-ba06-308dcc0e6251@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #454342 |
On Thursday, June 7, 2018 at 7:37:00 PM UTC-6, Snit wrote: > On 6/7/18 6:29 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > > Mike told Steve: > >> I never post links to some dating profile > >> where I am looking for senior citizens. > > > > How do you know Steve isn't a senior citizen himself ? > > Should he seek _younger_ women ? > > He claimed to be younger and spoke of his interest in older women. > > I do not really care... but why would he do that? LOL! Where did I do that? Do you really believe these 'Do you still beat your wife' type of questions are fooling anyone? Why, when they've *never*'worked for you on COLA or CSMA?
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