Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > comp.os.linux.advocacy > #330032 > unrolled thread
| Started by | ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2015-11-01 02:02 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-11-04 04:03 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 126 — 19 participants |
Back to article view | Back to comp.os.linux.advocacy
This discussion starts older than the indexed window; earlier articles aren't shown. The article labeled Started by
below is the oldest one visible, not the original post.
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 02:02 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 21:43 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-11-01 11:35 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 04:14 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 21:36 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 21:27 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-02 15:45 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 06:31 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 10:28 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:27 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 16:37 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 00:40 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 20:23 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 04:05 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-04 13:37 +0100
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 10:04 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 09:27 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 14:43 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:12 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 22:26 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 19:50 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 22:32 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-06 09:59 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 01:09 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-04 17:24 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 20:39 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 21:24 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 22:14 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 19:59 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 09:29 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-05 09:37 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-05 09:21 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-04 17:20 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-05 08:25 +0100
[OT] Random bigotry Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-05 06:12 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-05 09:41 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 16:08 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-05 11:56 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-05 10:22 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 12:28 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-05 12:57 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 13:06 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-05 13:24 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 17:07 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-05 14:02 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 22:29 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-06 09:56 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 01:07 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-06 18:14 +0100
Re: [OT] Islam DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-06 12:19 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-06 12:40 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 09:52 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 01:14 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-07 10:37 +0100
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 10:19 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 10:56 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 11:40 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-07 12:47 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-06 12:30 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-06 19:20 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 10:10 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 10:43 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 13:50 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 14:00 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-05 11:54 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 09:56 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 18:17 +0100
Re: [OT] Islam Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 12:45 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-02 11:38 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 10:55 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:32 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 17:50 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 16:48 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-02 15:48 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 14:14 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 12:23 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-01 13:13 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-11-01 14:01 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 15:33 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 14:25 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 10:15 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:20 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-02 17:47 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 16:33 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 14:16 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 14:24 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 19:04 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-02 15:49 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 03:23 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 20:40 -0700
Re: [OT] Islam Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-02 06:04 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 12:36 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 10:20 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:05 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 15:23 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 22:05 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-03 00:40 +0100
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 00:47 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 19:57 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 04:03 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-04 13:33 +0100
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 06:35 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 10:02 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 15:09 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 10:55 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 08:08 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 12:11 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 12:42 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 18:19 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 13:35 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 19:04 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 10:31 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 14:52 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 15:26 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 09:48 -0800
Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 09:53 -0500
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 14:33 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 22:27 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 19:54 -0600
Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 18:09 +0100
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:35 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-02 22:16 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 00:45 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-03 07:07 +0000
Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 04:00 +0000
Islam in Linux Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 04:03 -0800
Page 6 of 7 — ← Prev page 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 Next page →
| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 13:33 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n1ctqj$9a4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330789 |
ronb wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:57:31 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: > >> You're not "defending your faith", you're playing the role of the >> fool >> Ensign Chekov that tries to claim that the Russians invented everything. >> Except the Catholic Church is in the place of Russia. >> >> You would think that the Church was the only thing existed between >> the crucifixion and the Enlightenment. > > Do you even read the crap you spew? I never claimed that the Church > created "everything" but I did point the FACT that they rebuilt European > civilization after the dark ages. Only a moron (take your bow) denies > that reality. It isn't a "reality". They have held back civilization for several centuries They suppressed knowlege and science for more than 1000 years They are directly responsible for millions of murdered humans And the *current* catholic church is responsible for t6housands of mutilated and raped childs. Raped by their priests and bishops, and directly brushed under the rug by the catholic church. In short: The current catholic church in not interested at all at doing activly something against their criminal priests. They rather try to silence the victims > Show some gratitude for what the Church handed down to you. Or would you > rather be in a land controlled by Islamic fanatics? (And, yes, I know > that not all Muslims are fanatics.) > What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to humankind
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 06:35 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <aa9f25ac-2853-45d3-92c9-faf60d5600ad@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #330809 |
On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 5:33:34 AM UTC-7, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > ronb wrote: > > > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:57:31 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: > > > >> You're not "defending your faith", you're playing the role of the > >> fool > >> Ensign Chekov that tries to claim that the Russians invented everything. > >> Except the Catholic Church is in the place of Russia. > >> > >> You would think that the Church was the only thing existed between > >> the crucifixion and the Enlightenment. > > > > Do you even read the crap you spew? I never claimed that the Church > > created "everything" but I did point the FACT that they rebuilt European > > civilization after the dark ages. Only a moron (take your bow) denies > > that reality. > > It isn't a "reality". > They have held back civilization for several centuries > They suppressed knowlege and science for more than 1000 years > They are directly responsible for millions of murdered humans With respect to the murders, historically, yes... as have other groups you could name, religious, or not (i.e. Islamic invasion of India) > And the *current* catholic church is responsible for t6housands of mutilated > and raped childs. Raped by their priests and bishops, and directly brushed > under the rug by the catholic church. > > In short: The current catholic church in not interested at all at doing > activly something against their criminal priests. They rather try to silence > the victims Reprehensible acts, to be sure, but even these acts pale in comparison to the current practices of Sharia law by any reasonable yardstick. > > Show some gratitude for what the Church handed down to you. Or would you > > rather be in a land controlled by Islamic fanatics? (And, yes, I know > > that not all Muslims are fanatics.) > > > > What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? > Right. Nothing > Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to humankind The nutjobs aren't the issue.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 10:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n1d6hg$8g3$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330809 |
On 2015-11-04 7:33 AM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > ronb wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:57:31 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: >> >>> You're not "defending your faith", you're playing the role of the >>> fool >>> Ensign Chekov that tries to claim that the Russians invented everything. >>> Except the Catholic Church is in the place of Russia. >>> >>> You would think that the Church was the only thing existed between >>> the crucifixion and the Enlightenment. >> >> Do you even read the crap you spew? I never claimed that the Church >> created "everything" but I did point the FACT that they rebuilt European >> civilization after the dark ages. Only a moron (take your bow) denies >> that reality. > > It isn't a "reality". > They have held back civilization for several centuries Prove it. > They suppressed knowlege and science for more than 1000 years Prove it. > They are directly responsible for millions of murdered humans Prove it. > And the *current* catholic church is responsible for t6housands of mutilated > and raped childs. Raped by their priests and bishops, and directly brushed > under the rug by the catholic church. That's the Vatican for you and it is the result of their decision to force a vow of celibacy onto monks like I said in a previous post. > In short: The current catholic church in not interested at all at doing > activly something against their criminal priests. They rather try to silence > the victims The Vatican is at fault and I don't disagree here. >> Show some gratitude for what the Church handed down to you. Or would you >> rather be in a land controlled by Islamic fanatics? (And, yes, I know >> that not all Muslims are fanatics.) >> > > What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? > Right. Nothing > Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to humankind Let me know when a Catholic nutjob starts beheading people who disagree with him or gang rape people of another religion. -- Slimer
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 15:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n1d72j$a52$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330809 |
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 13:33:29 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > ronb wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:57:31 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: >> >>> You're not "defending your faith", you're playing the role of the >>> fool >>> Ensign Chekov that tries to claim that the Russians invented >>> everything. >>> Except the Catholic Church is in the place of Russia. >>> >>> You would think that the Church was the only thing existed between >>> the crucifixion and the Enlightenment. >> >> Do you even read the crap you spew? I never claimed that the Church >> created "everything" but I did point the FACT that they rebuilt >> European civilization after the dark ages. Only a moron (take your bow) >> denies that reality. > > It isn't a "reality". > They have held back civilization for several centuries They suppressed > knowlege and science for more than 1000 years They are directly > responsible for millions of murdered humans Bullshit. Without the Catholic Church, we wouldn't have modern European Society. The Catholic Church preserved and increased science and industry. Only an idiot would deny the obvious. > And the *current* catholic church is responsible for t6housands of > mutilated and raped childs. Raped by their priests and bishops, and > directly brushed under the rug by the catholic church. No excuse for either the priests or bishops who protect them. It is definitely a "scandal" in the full sense of the word. But Protestant and Jewish religious leaders do the same and are also protected by their congregations or synagogues. This is a result of the fallen nature of man. > In short: The current catholic church in not interested at all at doing > activly something against their criminal priests. They rather try to > silence the victims Most of these priests weren't fit for the job in the first place -- but you're right, the Church MUST do more to root out pedophiles. Completely agree with you here. >> Show some gratitude for what the Church handed down to you. Or would >> you rather be in a land controlled by Islamic fanatics? (And, yes, I >> know that not all Muslims are fanatics.) >> >> > What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? > Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to > humankind The level of your hatred and bigotry is incredible. I gave you a lot more credit for level headed sanity than I should have in the past, it appears. The difference -- of course -- between an Islamic nutjob and a Catholic (among many, many things) is that the Catholic is not beheading anyone in the name of his religion. If you can't tell the difference, than you're an absolute idiot. (Sorry, just calling as it is.) -- Zero tolerance for WinDrones and iCultists
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 10:55 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n1d9l0$ldi$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330838 |
On 2015-11-04 10:09 AM, ronb wrote: > On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 13:33:29 +0100, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> ronb wrote: >> >>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:57:31 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: >>> >>>> You're not "defending your faith", you're playing the role of the >>>> fool >>>> Ensign Chekov that tries to claim that the Russians invented >>>> everything. >>>> Except the Catholic Church is in the place of Russia. >>>> >>>> You would think that the Church was the only thing existed between >>>> the crucifixion and the Enlightenment. >>> >>> Do you even read the crap you spew? I never claimed that the Church >>> created "everything" but I did point the FACT that they rebuilt >>> European civilization after the dark ages. Only a moron (take your bow) >>> denies that reality. >> >> It isn't a "reality". >> They have held back civilization for several centuries They suppressed >> knowlege and science for more than 1000 years They are directly >> responsible for millions of murdered humans > > Bullshit. Without the Catholic Church, we wouldn't have modern European > Society. The Catholic Church preserved and increased science and > industry. Only an idiot would deny the obvious. Enter the Idiöt himself. >> And the *current* catholic church is responsible for t6housands of >> mutilated and raped childs. Raped by their priests and bishops, and >> directly brushed under the rug by the catholic church. > > No excuse for either the priests or bishops who protect them. It is > definitely a "scandal" in the full sense of the word. But Protestant and > Jewish religious leaders do the same and are also protected by their > congregations or synagogues. This is a result of the fallen nature of man. Agreed. It shouldn't be protected but it should also not influence the credibility of the institution either. Unfortunately, the Vatican routinely protects these people and insist on holding onto the vow of celibacy which encourages such behaviour. As a result, it is very difficult for me at least to defend them. >> In short: The current catholic church in not interested at all at doing >> activly something against their criminal priests. They rather try to >> silence the victims > > Most of these priests weren't fit for the job in the first place -- but > you're right, the Church MUST do more to root out pedophiles. Completely > agree with you here. Kill the vow of celibacy, problem solved. >>> Show some gratitude for what the Church handed down to you. Or would >>> you rather be in a land controlled by Islamic fanatics? (And, yes, I >>> know that not all Muslims are fanatics.) >>> >>> >> What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? >> Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to >> humankind > > The level of your hatred and bigotry is incredible. I gave you a lot more > credit for level headed sanity than I should have in the past, it > appears. The difference -- of course -- between an Islamic nutjob and a > Catholic (among many, many things) is that the Catholic is not beheading > anyone in the name of his religion. If you can't tell the difference, > than you're an absolute idiot. (Sorry, just calling as it is.) Like I said, enter the Idiöt. -- Slimer
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 08:08 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <4878a634-8bf7-4a82-8413-48392d4290a6@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #330846 |
On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 8:55:21 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote: (snip) > >> What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? > >> Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to > >> humankind > > > > The level of your hatred and bigotry is incredible. I gave you a lot more > > credit for level headed sanity than I should have in the past, it > > appears. The difference -- of course -- between an Islamic nutjob and a > > Catholic (among many, many things) is that the Catholic is not beheading > > anyone in the name of his religion. If you can't tell the difference, > > than you're an absolute idiot. (Sorry, just calling as it is.) > > Like I said, enter the Idiöt. Maybe. But what if he's not so much an idiot as he is a victim of one of these 'priests'?
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 12:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n1de3c$98v$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330849 |
On 2015-11-04 11:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 8:55:21 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote: > > (snip) > >>>> What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? >>>> Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to >>>> humankind >>> >>> The level of your hatred and bigotry is incredible. I gave you a lot more >>> credit for level headed sanity than I should have in the past, it >>> appears. The difference -- of course -- between an Islamic nutjob and a >>> Catholic (among many, many things) is that the Catholic is not beheading >>> anyone in the name of his religion. If you can't tell the difference, >>> than you're an absolute idiot. (Sorry, just calling as it is.) >> >> Like I said, enter the Idiöt. > > Maybe. But what if he's not so much an idiot as he is a victim of one of these 'priests'? I was an altar boy as a kid, went to a summer camp for a week with these people, had two priests performing my wedding and spent significant amounts of time with them at my parent's home and elsewhere. Never once did their behaviour suggest that they were pedophiles or molesters... and I was a pretty cute kid so I'm sure they would have tried if they were. -- Slimer
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 12:42 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n1dfu4$i3e$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330853 |
On 2015-11-04 12:32 PM, Snit wrote: > On 11/4/15, 10:11 AM, in article n1de3c$98v$2@dont-email.me, "Slimer" > <.m@nsn.s> wrote: > >> On 2015-11-04 11:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 8:55:21 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote: >>> >>> (snip) >>> >>>>>> What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? >>>>>> Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to >>>>>> humankind >>>>> >>>>> The level of your hatred and bigotry is incredible. I gave you a lot more >>>>> credit for level headed sanity than I should have in the past, it >>>>> appears. The difference -- of course -- between an Islamic nutjob and a >>>>> Catholic (among many, many things) is that the Catholic is not beheading >>>>> anyone in the name of his religion. If you can't tell the difference, >>>>> than you're an absolute idiot. (Sorry, just calling as it is.) >>>> >>>> Like I said, enter the Idiöt. >>> >>> Maybe. But what if he's not so much an idiot as he is a victim of one of >>> these 'priests'? >> >> I was an altar boy as a kid, went to a summer camp for a week with these >> people, had two priests performing my wedding and spent significant >> amounts of time with them at my parent's home and elsewhere. Never once >> did their behaviour suggest that they were pedophiles or molesters... >> and I was a pretty cute kid so I'm sure they would have tried if they were. >> > It comes down to this: > > * There ARE bad Catholics... including Catholic leaders. > * There ARE bad Muslims... including Muslim leaders. > > People from the outside of these groups sometimes work to push the idea that > because SOME are bad this means the religion as a whole is bad. That is a > logical fallacy. The people I talk to the most at work are Muslims. I like them because their culture and values are close to mine. However, they also don't apply their religion at work and we are therefore in an environment that is set up for us to get along. That doesn't mean that they behave as well outside of the school. For all I know, they might be advocating terrorism and contributing to terrorist organizations. If they are, it's a matter of time before they are arrested and jailed. However, this doesn't change the fact that they are, indeed, nice people when I communicate with them. That's why I believe that laws should come in and make it illegal for government establishments to take on ANY religion but also make it illegal for religion to EVER influence decision-making of any kind. If they are told very directly that Sharia law and their customs will never be a part of our society, they are likely to behave and they have shown that they can. If they truly come in peace and intend to live amongst us peacefully, they should have no trouble abiding by a law which destroys any possibility of their values ever interfering with ours though what they do in their own home is none of our business. If they feel like fucking goats in the name of Allah, it's all good with me. -- Slimer
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 18:19 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nghud73.ko22uf7@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #330859 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/4/15, 10:42 AM, in article n1dfu4$i3e$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer" > <.m@nsn.s> wrote: > ... >> >> The people I talk to the most at work are Muslims. I like them because >> their culture and values are close to mine. However, they also don't >> apply their religion at work and we are therefore in an environment that >> is set up for us to get along. > > Makes me think of this saying: > ----- > Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and be > proud of it, but when you take it out and wave it in my > face, that's when we have a problem. > ----- > > I feel that way about pretty much all religion. :) > Does this mean that atheism is like not having a penis? ... >> their values ever interfering with ours though what they do in their own home >> is none of our business. If they feel like fucking goats in the name of Allah, >> it's all good with me. > > Well, I am not OK with bestiality, but overall agree - and apply it to > Christianity as well as Islam. > You're "OK with bestiality"?
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 13:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1yayledfybgx.1392te053tz1k$.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #330867 |
On Wed, 4 Nov 2015 18:19:08 +0000 (UTC), owl wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >> On 11/4/15, 10:42 AM, in article n1dfu4$i3e$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer" >> <.m@nsn.s> wrote: >> > ... > >>> >>> The people I talk to the most at work are Muslims. I like them because >>> their culture and values are close to mine. However, they also don't >>> apply their religion at work and we are therefore in an environment that >>> is set up for us to get along. >> >> Makes me think of this saying: >> ----- >> Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and be >> proud of it, but when you take it out and wave it in my >> face, that's when we have a problem. >> ----- >> >> I feel that way about pretty much all religion. :) >> > > Does this mean that atheism is like not having a penis? > > > ... > >>> their values ever interfering with ours though what they do in their own home >>> is none of our business. If they feel like fucking goats in the name of Allah, >>> it's all good with me. >> >> Well, I am not OK with bestiality, but overall agree - and apply it to >> Christianity as well as Islam. >> > > You're "OK with bestiality"? > Snit supports incest so why should beastiality surprise you? -- You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 19:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fhsbv83.a0@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #330867 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: > On 11/4/15, 11:19 AM, in article nghud73.ko22uf7@rooftop.invalid, "owl" > <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote: >>> On 11/4/15, 10:42 AM, in article n1dfu4$i3e$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer" >>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote: >>> >> ... >> >> >>>> >>>> The people I talk to the most at work are Muslims. I like them because >>>> their culture and values are close to mine. However, they also don't >>>> apply their religion at work and we are therefore in an environment that >>>> is set up for us to get along. >>> >>> Makes me think of this saying: >>> ----- >>> Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and be >>> proud of it, but when you take it out and wave it in my >>> face, that's when we have a problem. >>> ----- >>> >>> I feel that way about pretty much all religion. :) >> >> Does this mean that atheism is like not having a penis? > > LOL! Well played. > >> >> ... >> >> >>>> their values ever interfering with ours though what they do in their own >>>> home >>>> is none of our business. If they feel like fucking goats in the name of >>>> Allah, >>>> it's all good with me. >>> >>> Well, I am not OK with bestiality, but overall agree - and apply it to >>> Christianity as well as Islam. >>> >> >> You're "OK with bestiality"? > > Is there some part of "I am not OK with bestiality" that would make you > think I was? At first I thought maybe I had a typo... but, nope, I am very > direct and clear there. :) > No, I had a "reado." Color-coding of quoted conversations in my newsreader is screwy with the window manager theme I'm using. But that was funny while it lasted.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 10:31 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <f0efba43-c725-4851-8b32-2f6c519e35fb@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #330859 |
On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 11:03:30 AM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 11/4/15, 10:42 AM, in article n1dfu4$i3e$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer" > <.m@nsn.s> wrote: > > > On 2015-11-04 12:32 PM, Snit wrote: > >> On 11/4/15, 10:11 AM, in article n1de3c$98v$2@dont-email.me, "Slimer" > >> <.m@nsn.s> wrote: > >> > >>> On 2015-11-04 11:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > >>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 8:55:21 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote: > >>>> > >>>> (snip) > >>>> > >>>>>>> What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? > >>>>>>> Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to > >>>>>>> humankind > >>>>>> > >>>>>> The level of your hatred and bigotry is incredible. I gave you a lot more > >>>>>> credit for level headed sanity than I should have in the past, it > >>>>>> appears. The difference -- of course -- between an Islamic nutjob and a > >>>>>> Catholic (among many, many things) is that the Catholic is not beheading > >>>>>> anyone in the name of his religion. If you can't tell the difference, > >>>>>> than you're an absolute idiot. (Sorry, just calling as it is.) > >>>>> > >>>>> Like I said, enter the Idiöt. > >>>> > >>>> Maybe. But what if he's not so much an idiot as he is a victim of one of > >>>> these 'priests'? > >>> > >>> I was an altar boy as a kid, went to a summer camp for a week with these > >>> people, had two priests performing my wedding and spent significant > >>> amounts of time with them at my parent's home and elsewhere. Never once > >>> did their behaviour suggest that they were pedophiles or molesters... > >>> and I was a pretty cute kid so I'm sure they would have tried if they were. > >>> > >> It comes down to this: > >> > >> * There ARE bad Catholics... including Catholic leaders. > >> * There ARE bad Muslims... including Muslim leaders. > >> > >> People from the outside of these groups sometimes work to push the idea that > >> because SOME are bad this means the religion as a whole is bad. That is a > >> logical fallacy. > > > > The people I talk to the most at work are Muslims. I like them because > > their culture and values are close to mine. However, they also don't > > apply their religion at work and we are therefore in an environment that > > is set up for us to get along. > > Makes me think of this saying: > ----- > Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and be > proud of it, but when you take it out and wave it in my > face, that's when we have a problem. > ----- > > I feel that way about pretty much all religion. :) > > Of course, does not mean you cannot wear religious symbols or clothing or > the like - just do not push it onto others. Hmmm... "symbols or clothing or the like", yes, I can see how that would be such a huge issue for you <eyeroll>. It's "interesting", then, that you're not more vocal regarding the sanctioned criminal punishment (and killing) of apostates, isn't it? (cue up another obligatory appeasement speech by Snit) > > That doesn't mean that they behave as well outside of the school. For > > all I know, they might be advocating terrorism and contributing to > > terrorist organizations. If they are, it's a matter of time before they > > are arrested and jailed. However, this doesn't change the fact that they > > are, indeed, nice people when I communicate with them. > > Fair enough. And the same is true of the Christians you work with, too. > > > That's why I believe that laws should come in and make it illegal for > > government establishments to take on ANY religion but also make it > > illegal for religion to EVER influence decision-making of any kind. > > Mostly agreed, but your views are influenced by your religion and you have a > right to vote based on those views. Just do not go against the principle of > pushing your religion on others. But that's only when it comes to "symbols or clothing or the like", right? Oh wait, he's a Christian... never mind.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 14:52 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n1dnh5$ieu$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330859 |
On 2015-11-04 1:03 PM, Snit wrote: > On 11/4/15, 10:42 AM, in article n1dfu4$i3e$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer" > <.m@nsn.s> wrote: > >> On 2015-11-04 12:32 PM, Snit wrote: >>> On 11/4/15, 10:11 AM, in article n1de3c$98v$2@dont-email.me, "Slimer" >>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2015-11-04 11:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: >>>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 8:55:21 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote: >>>>> >>>>> (snip) >>>>> >>>>>>>> What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? >>>>>>>> Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to >>>>>>>> humankind >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The level of your hatred and bigotry is incredible. I gave you a lot more >>>>>>> credit for level headed sanity than I should have in the past, it >>>>>>> appears. The difference -- of course -- between an Islamic nutjob and a >>>>>>> Catholic (among many, many things) is that the Catholic is not beheading >>>>>>> anyone in the name of his religion. If you can't tell the difference, >>>>>>> than you're an absolute idiot. (Sorry, just calling as it is.) >>>>>> >>>>>> Like I said, enter the Idiöt. >>>>> >>>>> Maybe. But what if he's not so much an idiot as he is a victim of one of >>>>> these 'priests'? >>>> >>>> I was an altar boy as a kid, went to a summer camp for a week with these >>>> people, had two priests performing my wedding and spent significant >>>> amounts of time with them at my parent's home and elsewhere. Never once >>>> did their behaviour suggest that they were pedophiles or molesters... >>>> and I was a pretty cute kid so I'm sure they would have tried if they were. >>>> >>> It comes down to this: >>> >>> * There ARE bad Catholics... including Catholic leaders. >>> * There ARE bad Muslims... including Muslim leaders. >>> >>> People from the outside of these groups sometimes work to push the idea that >>> because SOME are bad this means the religion as a whole is bad. That is a >>> logical fallacy. >> >> The people I talk to the most at work are Muslims. I like them because >> their culture and values are close to mine. However, they also don't >> apply their religion at work and we are therefore in an environment that >> is set up for us to get along. > > Makes me think of this saying: > ----- > Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and be > proud of it, but when you take it out and wave it in my > face, that's when we have a problem. > ----- > > I feel that way about pretty much all religion. :) > > Of course, does not mean you cannot wear religious symbols or clothing or > the like - just do not push it onto others. I actually agree with you here. >> That doesn't mean that they behave as well outside of the school. For >> all I know, they might be advocating terrorism and contributing to >> terrorist organizations. If they are, it's a matter of time before they >> are arrested and jailed. However, this doesn't change the fact that they >> are, indeed, nice people when I communicate with them. > > Fair enough. And the same is true of the Christians you work with, too. That's the thing, Christians don't exist anymore. Most people might claim to be Christians but the faith doesn't influence their lives at all. At best, they're atheists and only hold onto the Christian label out of habit. *I* am the sole Christian in my workplace. >> That's why I believe that laws should come in and make it illegal for >> government establishments to take on ANY religion but also make it >> illegal for religion to EVER influence decision-making of any kind. > > Mostly agreed, but your views are influenced by your religion and you have a > right to vote based on those views. Just do not go against the principle of > pushing your religion on others. I don't push it, I just hope that they understand why I refuse to celebrate Halloween as a result of it. >> If they are told very directly that Sharia law and their customs will never be >> a part of our society, they are likely to behave and they have shown that they >> can. If they truly come in peace and intend to live amongst us peacefully, >> they should have no trouble abiding by a law which destroys any possibility of >> their values ever interfering with ours though what they do in their own home >> is none of our business. If they feel like fucking goats in the name of Allah, >> it's all good with me. > > Well, I am not OK with bestiality, but overall agree - and apply it to > Christianity as well as Islam. If someone wants to fuck an animal, they're sick... that's as accepting as I am about that. -- Slimer
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 15:26 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <dgm7trm6auss.1ulem8ej0zs95.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #330879 |
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 13:23:32 -0700, Snit wrote: > If they want to they are sick... and if they do they are committing a crime. Yet you support incest which is also a crime, Michael Glasser The Prescott Computer Guy of Prescott Arizona. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/IJL1cPf7Nv0 Snit Michael Glasser, Prescott Computer Guy, from Prescott Arizona, talks about incest. "For example, if someone wanted to push to make it legal for 80 year old siblings to have sex I would not really care." <https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/218f298abc37e0b7?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect> "what is the harm in, say, letting two 80 year old siblings have sex if they want?" <https://groups.google.com/group/comp.os.linux.advocacy/msg/cda6a0283f0fdbdb?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect> "For the record: I am torn on the incest question." <https://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/3cad2ece3376567b?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect> "I do not see any *logical* reason to disallow incest." <https://groups.google.com/group/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/msg/f2dd521e403e08c?dmode=source&output=gplain&noredirect> "Who is being abused when two consenting adults have sex which cannot lead to procreation (in such a case the potential child would be the victim)? Which sibling is abusing the other?" <http://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/3rQ9_2h8pCo/KNVw0Ajn6GsJ> "But given how common incest is throughout history even in humans I would say it is natural" <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/3rQ9_2h8pCo/Dt4MAYUxaVIJ> "The concept of two elderly siblings engaging in consensual behavior is a completely rational concept." <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/U__LN6_zWvA/3Ecaj5QXVk4J> "I did say I do not see a victim to it and that, given that, I can see arguments as to why it should not be illegal (it is a "victimless" crime)." <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!original/comp.os.linux.advocacy/U__LN6_zWvA/RNQP2_JqOksJ> -- You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 09:48 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <a521c8c9-0477-49ff-9d74-8803894e7889@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #330853 |
On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 10:11:16 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote: > On 2015-11-04 11:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote: > > On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 8:55:21 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote: > > > > (snip) > > > >>>> What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob? > >>>> Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to > >>>> humankind > >>> > >>> The level of your hatred and bigotry is incredible. I gave you a lot more > >>> credit for level headed sanity than I should have in the past, it > >>> appears. The difference -- of course -- between an Islamic nutjob and a > >>> Catholic (among many, many things) is that the Catholic is not beheading > >>> anyone in the name of his religion. If you can't tell the difference, > >>> than you're an absolute idiot. (Sorry, just calling as it is.) > >> > >> Like I said, enter the Idiöt. > > > > Maybe. But what if he's not so much an idiot as he is a victim of one of these 'priests'? > > I was an altar boy as a kid, went to a summer camp for a week with these > people, had two priests performing my wedding and spent significant > amounts of time with them at my parent's home and elsewhere. Never once > did their behaviour suggest that they were pedophiles or molesters... > and I was a pretty cute kid so I'm sure they would have tried if they were. I was also an alter and my experiences weren't bad, either. Doesn't change the facts we all know happened. I'm not saying PK is a victim, just that he might be. If he is, I doubt he'd directly speak out on it and I don't blame him... especially if he's near my age, we were taught that 'men don't cry' bullcrap and it doesn't go away.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 09:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n1d60j$8g3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330789 |
On 2015-11-03 11:03 PM, ronb wrote: > On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:57:31 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: > >> You're not "defending your faith", you're playing the role of the >> fool >> Ensign Chekov that tries to claim that the Russians invented everything. >> Except the Catholic Church is in the place of Russia. >> >> You would think that the Church was the only thing existed between >> the crucifixion and the Enlightenment. > > Do you even read the crap you spew? I never claimed that the Church > created "everything" but I did point the FACT that they rebuilt European > civilization after the dark ages. Only a moron (take your bow) denies > that reality. In Poland, the Catholic church allowed the numerous tribes to unite and gave their a common culture and a common goal. It also ensured that people had a common language. In every imaginable way, it was a good thing. Even when the Soviets controlled the country and attempted to take rights away from the people, their strong faith is what allowed them to push back and prevent the Communists from taking away the very thing that held them together. That's one of the reasons I consider my faith quite important. > Show some gratitude for what the Church handed down to you. Or would you > rather be in a land controlled by Islamic fanatics? (And, yes, I know > that not all Muslims are fanatics.) Only most of them. -- Slimer
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 14:33 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <slrnn3kqsj.dek.jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
| In reply to | #330789 |
On 2015-11-04, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:57:31 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote:
>
>> You're not "defending your faith", you're playing the role of the
>> fool
>> Ensign Chekov that tries to claim that the Russians invented everything.
>> Except the Catholic Church is in the place of Russia.
>>
>> You would think that the Church was the only thing existed between
>> the crucifixion and the Enlightenment.
>
> Do you even read the crap you spew? I never claimed that the Church
> created "everything" but I did point the FACT that they rebuilt European
> civilization after the dark ages. Only a moron (take your bow) denies
> that reality.
Your response is an obvious contradiction.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 22:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n1e0no$kis$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330910 |
On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:33:23 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: > On 2015-11-04, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:57:31 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: >> >>> You're not "defending your faith", you're playing the role of the >>> fool >>> Ensign Chekov that tries to claim that the Russians invented >>> everything. >>> Except the Catholic Church is in the place of Russia. >>> >>> You would think that the Church was the only thing existed between >>> the crucifixion and the Enlightenment. >> >> Do you even read the crap you spew? I never claimed that the Church >> created "everything" but I did point the FACT that they rebuilt >> European civilization after the dark ages. Only a moron (take your bow) >> denies that reality. > > Your response is an obvious contradiction. When "snark" becomes wit, you've got it made in the shade. -- Zero tolerance for WinDrones and iCultists
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-04 19:54 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <slrnn3ldme.t41.jedi@nomad.mishnet> |
| In reply to | #330932 |
On 2015-11-04, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 04 Nov 2015 14:33:23 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: > >> On 2015-11-04, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Mon, 02 Nov 2015 19:57:31 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: >>> >>>> You're not "defending your faith", you're playing the role of the >>>> fool >>>> Ensign Chekov that tries to claim that the Russians invented >>>> everything. >>>> Except the Catholic Church is in the place of Russia. >>>> >>>> You would think that the Church was the only thing existed between >>>> the crucifixion and the Enlightenment. >>> >>> Do you even read the crap you spew? I never claimed that the Church >>> created "everything" but I did point the FACT that they rebuilt >>> European civilization after the dark ages. Only a moron (take your bow) >>> denies that reality. >> >> Your response is an obvious contradiction. > > When "snark" becomes wit, you've got it made in the shade. > It's not snark, just an observation that should be obvious to anyone else. I still can't get over that nonsense about hospitals. As if...
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2015-11-02 18:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <n1858e$jp0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #330268 |
ronb wrote: > On Sun, 01 Nov 2015 13:13:13 -0600, JEDIDIAH wrote: > >> On 2015-11-01, ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Sat, 31 Oct 2015 22:42:28 +0000, 7 wrote: >>> >>>> A globally agreed tax on all religions best and made proportional to >>>> the violence a particular sect or religion in order for these >>>> religions to pay their way through society instead of burdening >>>> society. >>> >>> And after that ... a tax on atheists to pay for all the benefits that >>> Christianity gave them. Universities, stopping human sacrifice, >>> hospitals, orphanages, civilization ... >>> >>> >> Stopping human sacrifice? >> >> You are confusing Christianity with Judaism. >> >> The rest you are mistaking for humanism and science. >> >> Once Christianity came along, Europe slid into a dark age and didn't >> come back out again until the power of the church was broken in much the >> same way Islam needs to be. > > Christianity is what brought Europe out of the Dark Ages after the pagan > hordes overran Rome. Christianity also held it back for centuries This came slowly to an end in the 16th century But even then the church did would it could to hold back knowledge. Astronomers were in constant danger to be ending in flames as "heretics" for simply telling the truth The catholic church is responsible for hundreds of thousands if not millions death humans. The "Inquisition" (which exists to thius day, unde different names) was one of the most murderous institutions ever made my the church > They're the ones who converted the pagans -- > formerly practitioners of human sacrifice -- and introduced them into > civilized society. Human sacrifice was practiced by the Celts, Germanic > peoples, in the Balkans and by the Slavs. This is patiently wrong. Of those only the celts are known to have made human sacrifices, and rarely so > Not to mention the > "enlightened" pagan Romans, where the father could kill the baby for > various reasons. (Now it's abortion, but is frowned on after the baby is > born.) > > And let's not forget New World human sacrifice in the Mayan and Aztec > cultures -- also stopped by the Catholic Church. > Yes. By mass murder. What the church practicised was simply genozide
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
Page 6 of 7 — ← Prev page 1 2 3 4 5 [6] 7 Next page →
Back to top | Article view | comp.os.linux.advocacy
csiph-web