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Re: [OT] Islam

From Slimer <.m@nsn.s>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: [OT] Islam
Date 2015-11-04 14:52 -0500
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On 2015-11-04 1:03 PM, Snit wrote:
> On 11/4/15, 10:42 AM, in article n1dfu4$i3e$1@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-11-04 12:32 PM, Snit wrote:
>>> On 11/4/15, 10:11 AM, in article n1de3c$98v$2@dont-email.me, "Slimer"
>>> <.m@nsn.s> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2015-11-04 11:08 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>>> On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 8:55:21 AM UTC-7, Slimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> (snip)
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What exactly is different for a islamic nutjob from a catholic nutjob?
>>>>>>>> Right. Nothing Both are reprehensible, mindless scum. A disgrace to
>>>>>>>> humankind
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The level of your hatred and bigotry is incredible. I gave you a lot more
>>>>>>> credit for level headed sanity than I should have in the past, it
>>>>>>> appears. The difference -- of course -- between an Islamic nutjob and a
>>>>>>> Catholic (among many, many things) is that the Catholic is not beheading
>>>>>>> anyone in the name of his religion. If you can't tell the difference,
>>>>>>> than you're an absolute idiot. (Sorry, just calling as it is.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Like I said, enter the Idiöt.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe. But what if he's not so much an idiot as he is a victim of one of
>>>>> these 'priests'?
>>>>
>>>> I was an altar boy as a kid, went to a summer camp for a week with these
>>>> people, had two priests performing my wedding and spent significant
>>>> amounts of time with them at my parent's home and elsewhere. Never once
>>>> did their behaviour suggest that they were pedophiles or molesters...
>>>> and I was a pretty cute kid so I'm sure they would have tried if they were.
>>>>
>>> It comes down to this:
>>>
>>> * There ARE bad Catholics... including Catholic leaders.
>>> * There ARE bad Muslims... including Muslim leaders.
>>>
>>> People from the outside of these groups sometimes work to push the idea that
>>> because SOME are bad this means the religion as a whole is bad. That is a
>>> logical fallacy.
>>
>> The people I talk to the most at work are Muslims. I like them because
>> their culture and values are close to mine. However, they also don't
>> apply their religion at work and we are therefore in an environment that
>> is set up for us to get along.
> 
> Makes me think of this saying:
>     -----
>     Religion is like a penis. It's fine to have one and be
>     proud of it, but when you take it out and wave it in my
>     face, that's when we have a problem.
>     -----
> 
> I feel that way about pretty much all religion. :)
> 
> Of course, does not mean you cannot wear religious symbols or clothing or
> the like - just do not push it onto others.

I actually agree with you here.

>> That doesn't mean that they behave as well outside of the school. For
>> all I know, they might be advocating terrorism and contributing to
>> terrorist organizations. If they are, it's a matter of time before they
>> are arrested and jailed. However, this doesn't change the fact that they
>> are, indeed, nice people when I communicate with them.
> 
> Fair enough. And the same is true of the Christians you work with, too.

That's the thing, Christians don't exist anymore. Most people might
claim to be Christians but the faith doesn't influence their lives at
all. At best, they're atheists and only hold onto the Christian label
out of habit. *I* am the sole Christian in my workplace.

>> That's why I believe that laws should come in and make it illegal for
>> government establishments to take on ANY religion but also make it
>> illegal for religion to EVER influence decision-making of any kind.
> 
> Mostly agreed, but your views are influenced by your religion and you have a
> right to vote based on those views. Just do not go against the principle of
> pushing your religion on others.

I don't push it, I just hope that they understand why I refuse to
celebrate Halloween as a result of it.

>> If they are told very directly that Sharia law and their customs will never be
>> a part of our society, they are likely to behave and they have shown that they
>> can. If they truly come in peace and intend to live amongst us peacefully,
>> they should have no trouble abiding by a law which destroys any possibility of
>> their values ever interfering with ours though what they do in their own home
>> is none of our business. If they feel like fucking goats in the name of Allah,
>> it's all good with me.
> 
> Well, I am not OK with bestiality, but overall agree - and apply it to
> Christianity as well as Islam.

If someone wants to fuck an animal, they're sick... that's as accepting
as I am about that.


-- 
Slimer

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Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-01 02:02 +0000
  Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-31 21:43 -0700
  Re: [OT] Islam 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-11-01 11:35 +0000
    Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 04:14 +0000
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          Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-02 15:45 -0700
        Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 06:31 -0800
      Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 10:28 -0600
        Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:27 +0000
          Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 16:37 -0600
            Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 00:40 +0000
              Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 20:23 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 04:05 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-04 13:37 +0100
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 10:04 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 09:27 -0800
                Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 14:43 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 22:12 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 22:26 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 19:50 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 22:32 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-06 09:59 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 01:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-04 17:24 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 20:39 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 21:24 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 22:14 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 19:59 -0800
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 09:29 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-05 09:37 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-05 09:21 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-04 17:20 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-05 08:25 +0100
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                Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-05 09:41 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 16:08 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-05 11:56 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-05 10:22 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 12:28 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-05 12:57 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 13:06 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-05 13:24 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 17:07 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-05 14:02 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-05 22:29 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-06 09:56 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 01:07 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-06 18:14 +0100
                Re: [OT] Islam DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-06 12:19 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-06 12:40 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 09:52 -0800
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 01:14 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-07 10:37 +0100
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 10:19 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 10:56 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 11:40 -0800
                Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-07 12:47 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-06 12:30 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-06 19:20 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 10:10 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 10:43 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-07 13:50 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-07 14:00 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-05 11:54 -0700
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 09:56 -0500
      Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 18:17 +0100
        Re: [OT] Islam Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 12:45 -0500
          Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-02 11:38 -0700
            Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 10:55 -0800
        Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:32 +0000
          Re: [OT] Islam Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-02 17:50 -0500
          Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 16:48 -0600
        Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-02 15:48 -0700
  Re: [OT] Islam Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 14:14 -0500
    Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 12:23 -0700
  Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-01 13:13 -0600
    Re: [OT] Islam Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-11-01 14:01 -0600
      Re: [OT] Islam Charmed Tuna <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-01 15:33 -0500
      Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 14:25 -0700
      Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 10:15 -0600
        Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:20 +0000
          Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-02 17:47 -0500
          Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 16:33 -0600
    Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 14:16 -0700
    Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 14:24 -0700
      Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-01 19:04 -0700
        Re: [OT] Islam GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-02 15:49 -0700
    Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 03:23 +0000
      Re: [OT] Islam Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-01 20:40 -0700
      Re: [OT] Islam Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-02 06:04 -0500
        Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 12:36 +0000
      Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 10:20 -0600
        Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:05 +0000
          Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 15:23 -0600
            Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 22:05 +0000
              Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-03 00:40 +0100
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 00:47 +0000
              Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-02 19:57 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 04:03 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-04 13:33 +0100
                Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 06:35 -0800
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 10:02 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 15:09 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 10:55 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 08:08 -0800
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 12:11 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 12:42 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 18:19 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 13:35 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-04 19:04 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 10:31 -0800
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 14:52 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 15:26 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 09:48 -0800
                Re: [OT] Islam Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 09:53 -0500
                Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 14:33 -0600
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 22:27 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 19:54 -0600
      Re: [OT] Islam Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-02 18:09 +0100
        Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-02 21:35 +0000
          Re: [OT] Islam vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-02 22:16 +0000
            Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 00:45 +0000
              Re: [OT] Islam vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-03 07:07 +0000
                Re: [OT] Islam ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-11-04 04:00 +0000
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