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| Started by | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| First post | 2015-11-09 02:20 +0000 |
| Last post | 2015-11-16 11:41 -0700 |
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Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 02:20 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-08 18:55 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 20:02 -0700
Circus Alert.. Don't take the bait Fabian Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-08 22:11 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:22 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 21:50 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:13 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:38 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Kelsey Bjarnason <kbjarnason@gmail.com> - 2015-11-16 10:45 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 09:25 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-16 19:09 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Sandman <mr@sandman.net> - 2015-11-16 18:59 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-09 04:38 -0800
Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 21:30 -0800
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:18 +0000
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:43 +0000
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:09 -0700
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:28 -0800
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-11-09 20:26 +0000
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:27 -0700
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 15:39 -0500
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:45 -0500
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-09 21:53 +0100
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:01 -0500
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:14 -0500
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0700
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 17:48 -0500
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 01:58 +0100
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:28 -0700
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:30 +0100
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:24 -0700
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:50 +0000
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 06:31 +0000
Fabian Russell is disabled. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-08 23:12 -0800
Re: Plenty of non-idiots use Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:03 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 03:12 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
Rot in Hell, Russell. There Moi fixed your 1st post. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 02:31 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:39 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 06:47 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 15:35 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 16:31 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:32 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:01 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 20:04 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 15:18 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:01 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 16:08 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:35 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:54 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:54 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:13 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:17 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 23:24 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 17:36 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:37 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:32 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 13:04 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:30 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:44 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 03:58 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:38 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:18 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:15 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:49 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:54 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 11:21 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:46 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:27 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:25 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:45 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 22:30 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:37 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:04 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 01:30 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:59 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-11 03:15 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-11 07:22 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:20 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:32 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 14:51 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:13 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:17 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:28 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:38 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:40 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:24 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:33 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:57 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 12:21 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 12:26 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 14:57 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:04 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:25 -0600
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:48 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 17:09 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 20:39 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 15:43 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 21:30 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:27 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 22:18 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-16 09:29 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:39 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-13 10:55 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:26 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:26 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:42 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 16:06 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 23:25 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-12 23:36 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:35 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:54 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:53 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 15:36 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 17:40 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-12 18:37 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-13 00:40 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:01 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:29 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:47 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:29 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:45 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 19:05 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:03 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:26 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:35 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:51 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:00 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:36 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 22:41 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 19:46 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 20:00 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 03:18 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 01:49 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:27 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:15 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-13 11:30 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 11:32 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 08:45 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:12 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. benj <none@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 12:27 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:41 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:40 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:47 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:06 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:25 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 10:28 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:52 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:02 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 12:15 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-13 08:24 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 12:52 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-12 21:44 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 10:24 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-14 01:01 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-13 20:08 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 20:17 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-11 02:07 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:48 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:23 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:25 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:37 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:41 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 21:07 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:05 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:48 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:20 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 15:18 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:29 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:28 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 12:46 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:36 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 18:32 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:39 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 18:46 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:09 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 08:21 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 14:48 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-10 10:34 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 18:27 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:31 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 20:51 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 21:21 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:49 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 15:12 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:48 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:14 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:47 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 12:33 -0700
GhostScipt works well on Windows. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-11-09 16:09 -0800
Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 19:54 -0500
Re: GhostScipt works well on Windows. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:49 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-10 03:23 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 09:42 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:29 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-11 13:08 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:58 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:43 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-10 04:18 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 21:46 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:49 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:48 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 04:56 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:15 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 05:27 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-08 22:43 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-11-09 04:35 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 06:46 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 10:14 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:02 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:15 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:06 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:13 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-09 06:13 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:32 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 11:38 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:51 -0600
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 09:48 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-09 10:03 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 18:05 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-11-09 13:19 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 14:24 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:08 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 16:35 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:52 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 12:17 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 13:07 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-09 21:46 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 14:26 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:52 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-10 02:54 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:51 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 10:27 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 06:52 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 13:21 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-10 07:39 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-10 07:12 -0600
Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-10 08:22 -0500
Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
Re: Are the FOSS community "suckers", Kreep? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-11 09:27 -0600
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:58 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-10 22:01 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-10 23:15 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:38 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 00:45 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-11 14:15 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 18:10 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 17:33 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 21:58 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 23:15 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 22:19 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:30 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 00:37 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:00 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 01:24 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 18:46 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 02:28 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 19:34 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-13 10:27 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 02:41 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-11-13 09:44 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-13 10:23 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-13 11:06 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 17:27 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:24 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-12 15:33 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 10:05 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-11 11:20 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-11 13:27 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 10:36 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 22:58 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 15:15 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-11 06:15 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:37 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 09:31 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:55 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 13:54 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:05 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 10:03 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-12 10:18 +0100
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:40 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:40 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-09 21:14 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-09 18:53 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-10 18:00 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-10 16:39 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-11 18:00 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-11 20:02 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-12 06:46 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:41 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 09:22 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-12 11:43 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-12 18:07 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-13 07:35 -0600
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:58 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-13 14:57 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 07:30 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 12:18 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-14 22:09 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-14 20:12 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-11-15 03:31 +0000
To dvus. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:40 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-15 10:46 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:38 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-16 14:47 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-16 20:26 +0000
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-16 14:43 -0600
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-16 14:19 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:39 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:38 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 15:37 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 05:30 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 14:57 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. dvus <dven1@adelphia.net> - 2015-11-17 20:04 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-17 19:26 -0700
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-09 08:14 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-11-09 06:52 -0800
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> - 2015-11-15 11:05 -0500
Re: Some people don't want a _desktop_ PC. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-16 11:41 -0700
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 21:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.11.13.21.30.23@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #332954 |
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 15:43:30 -0500, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote: > > Sounds like you live in a ghetto slum. > Typical of many Linux loons. > My description is highly accurate for virtually all urban areas within the US. No matter how affluent the neighborhood or district, a "ghetto slum" is never more than a few minutes away.
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| From | Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-16 09:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n2c7ee$78s$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org> |
| In reply to | #332953 |
On 13/11/2015 20:39, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 17:09:21 +0000, Desk Rabbit wrote: > >> >> That's why I drive a Mercedes -- >> > > -- down streets and highways that are severely riddled with enormous > potholes and debris that will quickly wreck any suspension. Not around here. > > -- but I cannot leave it unattended for even a short length of time > without someone throwing a brick through the windows and absconding > with the GPS and music system. The GPS is integrated into the car, you'd have to pull the entire dash board out to get the music system out as well which would only fit in another similar model Mercedes. In the unlikely event that should happen, I've got insurance and the car would be replaced, meanwhile I'd drives the wife's new Audi. Nice car, I love driving that. I live in a small town in the UK. Crime rates are very low, I've even gone and left my keys hanging out the front door and having spotted them in the morning berated myself for being forgetful but never afraid that we would get burgled. > > Yes, you are definitely enjoying a quality of life that the rest > of us could never attain. It's attainable, it just depends how much you want it and how hard you are willing to work. I grew up in a slum area, my parents were poor.
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 22:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.11.13.22.18.27@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #332851 |
On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 10:57:01 +0000, Desk Rabbit wrote: >> >> Do you speak of that junk known as LINQ, or language integrated >> query, that is a part of Microsoft .NET? >> >> > > Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor > (Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for? > No, I mean LINQ, or "language integrated query," which is another Microsoft gimmick to build an unshakable dependence among programmers on its .NET suite. LINQ is used in place of ordinary SQL to construct database queries. Using LINQ, I can construct a two-table join statement with only a little trouble. But moving up to a three-table join requires ... ... well I haven't figured it out yet. I'd need to spend a few days studying the references I think. With ordinary SQL, a three-table join, or more, is NO problem. Way to go Microsoft! Keep those lackeys irredeemably hooked! Now, some will now jump into the fray with a defense of LINQ. After all ,it does provide compile-time, as opposed to run-time syntax checking. But LINQ and .NET are nothing more than an insidious trap. By the way, at my last count, the .NET suite contains at least EIGHT separate and distinct sets of classes for database access, each with its own universe of methods and properties. Is that bloated confusion or what? Give me Linux, C, and a SQL driver any day.
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| From | Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-16 09:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n2c7ia$78s$2@deskrabbit.motzarella.org> |
| In reply to | #332974 |
On 13/11/2015 22:18, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2015 10:57:01 +0000, Desk Rabbit wrote: > >>> >>> Do you speak of that junk known as LINQ, or language integrated >>> query, that is a part of Microsoft .NET? >>> >>> >> >> Ah you mean that Microsoft Language that the leading Linux distributor >> (Red Hat) is falling over backwards to include support for? >> > > No, I mean LINQ, or "language integrated query," which is > another Microsoft gimmick to build an unshakable dependence among > programmers on its .NET suite. > > LINQ is used in place of ordinary SQL to construct database queries. > > Using LINQ, I can construct a two-table join statement with only > a little trouble. But moving up to a three-table join requires ... > ... well I haven't figured it out yet. I'd need to spend a few days > studying the references I think. Or do what most professionals do and get yourself on a course and trained up. > > With ordinary SQL, a three-table join, or more, is NO problem. > > Way to go Microsoft! Keep those lackeys irredeemably hooked! > > Now, some will now jump into the fray with a defense of LINQ. > After all ,it does provide compile-time, as opposed to run-time > syntax checking. But LINQ and .NET are nothing more than an > insidious trap. > > By the way, at my last count, the .NET suite contains at least > EIGHT separate and distinct sets of classes for database access, > each with its own universe of methods and properties. > Is that bloated confusion or what? Legacy code support I guess but I'm not a programmer.
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| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 18:39 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n237rg$lgb$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #332719 |
On 2015-11-12 5:17 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Fabian Russell wrote: > >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:51:13 -0700, Snit wrote: >> >>> >>> Why do you use assembly and not machine code? You are using an >>> abstraction, too. >>> >> >> No, it is not an abstraction. Assembly code is a MNEMONIC, in the >> same way that a web address is a MNEMONIC for IPv4 dotted quad notation >> (i.e. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). >> >> Actually I do, or did, use machine code, if machine code is meant >> to be the actual binary numeric vales used to indicate instructions >> to the processor. >> >> Using machine code can be a fun experience, because the actual binary >> values have regular patterns within instruction families. Once these >> pattens are recognized, it becomes easy to rapidly plug those values >> into memory. >> >> With practice, writing assembly code can be a very fast process, >> and also even MUCH EASIER than crafting high level code. This >> is because there are no crazy syntax issues to deal with or >> remember. > > Bullshit. I have written assembler code several years. It has its place, > even now. But it is idiotic to even imply it might be used instead of high- > level languages. Especially OO languages I doubt that you wrote anything at all in Assembler. -- Slimer
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| From | Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 10:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n24fe9$30h$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org> |
| In reply to | #332719 |
On 12/11/2015 22:17, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Fabian Russell wrote: > >> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:51:13 -0700, Snit wrote: >> >>> >>> Why do you use assembly and not machine code? You are using an >>> abstraction, too. >>> >> >> No, it is not an abstraction. Assembly code is a MNEMONIC, in the >> same way that a web address is a MNEMONIC for IPv4 dotted quad notation >> (i.e. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). >> >> Actually I do, or did, use machine code, if machine code is meant >> to be the actual binary numeric vales used to indicate instructions >> to the processor. >> >> Using machine code can be a fun experience, because the actual binary >> values have regular patterns within instruction families. Once these >> pattens are recognized, it becomes easy to rapidly plug those values >> into memory. >> >> With practice, writing assembly code can be a very fast process, >> and also even MUCH EASIER than crafting high level code. This >> is because there are no crazy syntax issues to deal with or >> remember. > > Bullshit. I have written assembler code several years. It has its place, > even now. But it is idiotic to even imply it might be used instead of high- > level languages. Especially OO languages > For once I agree with you.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 10:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D26B6B38.63CB3%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #332850 |
On 11/13/15, 3:55 AM, in article n24fe9$30h$1@deskrabbit.motzarella.org, "Desk Rabbit" <me@example.com> wrote: > On 12/11/2015 22:17, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> Fabian Russell wrote: >> >>> On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:51:13 -0700, Snit wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Why do you use assembly and not machine code? You are using an >>>> abstraction, too. >>>> >>> >>> No, it is not an abstraction. Assembly code is a MNEMONIC, in the >>> same way that a web address is a MNEMONIC for IPv4 dotted quad notation >>> (i.e. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). >>> >>> Actually I do, or did, use machine code, if machine code is meant >>> to be the actual binary numeric vales used to indicate instructions >>> to the processor. >>> >>> Using machine code can be a fun experience, because the actual binary >>> values have regular patterns within instruction families. Once these >>> pattens are recognized, it becomes easy to rapidly plug those values >>> into memory. >>> >>> With practice, writing assembly code can be a very fast process, >>> and also even MUCH EASIER than crafting high level code. This >>> is because there are no crazy syntax issues to deal with or >>> remember. >> >> Bullshit. I have written assembler code several years. It has its place, >> even now. But it is idiotic to even imply it might be used instead of high- >> level languages. Especially OO languages >> > > For once I agree with you. Agreed. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 15:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D26A603C.63AB8%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #332716 |
On 11/12/15, 3:13 PM, in article pan.2015.11.12.22.12.15@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell" <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 14:51:13 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> >> Why do you use assembly and not machine code? You are using an abstraction, >> too. > > No, it is not an abstraction. It abstracts the exact machine code. But whatever, not worth a semantic debate. > Assembly code is a MNEMONIC, in the > same way that a web address is a MNEMONIC for IPv4 dotted quad notation > (i.e. xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). > > Actually I do, or did, use machine code, if machine code is meant > to be the actual binary numeric vales used to indicate instructions > to the processor. > > Using machine code can be a fun experience, because the actual binary > values have regular patterns within instruction families. Once these > pattens are recognized, it becomes easy to rapidly plug those values > into memory. > > With practice, writing assembly code can be a very fast process, > and also even MUCH EASIER than crafting high level code. This > is because there are no crazy syntax issues to deal with or > remember. Also fewer abstractions which allow you to think in higher terms. >> So you have a weakness when dealing with code. OK. > > No. It is actually a strength. > > But the world fails to recognize it as such. > > Such misapprehension has occurred throughout human history. You do not understand your weakness well. OK. >> Fair enough... I wish you well. > > No, you don't. Sure I do. > But be assured that my attitude toward you > is not reciprocated. > > (I am NOT a nice person and never will be.) I still wish you well. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 22:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.11.12.22.42.57@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #332722 |
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:26:52 -0700, Snit wrote: > > Also fewer abstractions which allow you to think in higher terms. > I am so sick of your limited and shallow kind. For one thing, who do you think creates the stuff that allows you to utilize your cherished abstractions? Also, abstractions are NOT excluded from assembly language programming. They just never leave the programmers head to assume an independent symbolic form. You make me ill.
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 16:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <UK-dnYDovMHrhtjLnZ2dnUU7-f2dnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #332729 |
On 11/12/15 15:42, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:26:52 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> >> Also fewer abstractions which allow you to think in higher terms. >> > > I am so sick of your limited and shallow kind. > > For one thing, who do you think creates the stuff that allows > you to utilize your cherished abstractions? > > Also, abstractions are NOT excluded from assembly language > programming. They just never leave the programmers head > to assume an independent symbolic form. > > You make me ill. > Seeing that you claim you are not a nice guy, then why don't you just go and fuck off and leave cola. -- My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 23:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.11.12.23.20.37@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #332731 |
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:06:25 -0700, GreyCloud wrote: >> > Seeing that you claim you are not a nice guy, then why don't you just go > and fuck off and leave cola. > You are an insufferable, blowhard, turd-brained ass. If I ever encountered you on the streets, I'd whip your cowardly blowhard ass into pieces, and leave you lying with shit in your pants.
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 23:36 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <fe803a.fip@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #332738 |
In comp.os.linux.advocacy Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:06:25 -0700, GreyCloud wrote: > >>> >> Seeing that you claim you are not a nice guy, then why don't you just go >> and fuck off and leave cola. >> > > You are an insufferable, blowhard, turd-brained ass. > > If I ever encountered you on the streets, I'd whip your > cowardly blowhard ass into pieces, and leave you lying > with shit in your pants. > You wouldn't even warn him that you code assembler first?
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| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 18:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n23890$lgb$6@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #332738 |
On 2015-11-12 6:25 PM, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:06:25 -0700, GreyCloud wrote: > >>> >> Seeing that you claim you are not a nice guy, then why don't you just go >> and fuck off and leave cola. >> > > You are an insufferable, blowhard, turd-brained ass. > > If I ever encountered you on the streets, I'd whip your > cowardly blowhard ass into pieces, and leave you lying > with shit in your pants. Um, aren't you overreacting just a little? -- Slimer
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 00:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.11.13.00.36.38@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #332751 |
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 18:46:51 -0500, Slimer wrote: > > Um, aren't you overreacting just a little? > Do you see how that twit-wimp carries on? He's an air-head baboon. I believe that he has the beginnings of true dementia. They'd throw him out on his ass from anywhere.
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 14:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f5-dnThEx_WKwdvLnZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #332756 |
On 11/12/15 17:35, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 18:46:51 -0500, Slimer wrote: > >> >> Um, aren't you overreacting just a little? >> > > Do you see how that twit-wimp carries on? He's an air-head > baboon. I believe that he has the beginnings of true dementia. > They'd throw him out on his ass from anywhere. > > Then smile if you tasted a dick sweeter than mine. LOL!!! -- My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.
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| From | GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 14:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f5-dnTlEx_VXxtvLnZ2dnUU7-VWdnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #332738 |
On 11/12/15 16:25, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 16:06:25 -0700, GreyCloud wrote: > >>> >> Seeing that you claim you are not a nice guy, then why don't you just go >> and fuck off and leave cola. >> > > You are an insufferable, blowhard, turd-brained ass. > > If I ever encountered you on the streets, I'd whip your > cowardly blowhard ass into pieces, and leave you lying > with shit in your pants. > > Ah, the ad hominem attacks. Boo-Hoo! Says the short guy with the little dick and big mouth. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! -- My problem is that I don't have enough middle fingers.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 15:36 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <64a0f480-c421-4594-8930-76c0bad7d501@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #332729 |
On Thursday, November 12, 2015 at 3:43:23 PM UTC-7, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:26:52 -0700, Snit wrote: > > > > > Also fewer abstractions which allow you to think in higher terms. > > > > I am so sick of your limited and shallow kind. Said the idiot who tried to sell the ridiculous idea that a commonly used term, blanks, isn't "correct" when referring to "white space" as based on some 'rule' he has stuck up his idiotic ass ;)
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 17:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <D26A7F91.63B16%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #332729 |
On 11/12/15, 3:42 PM, in article pan.2015.11.12.22.42.57@localhost.localdomain, "Fabian Russell" <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 15:26:52 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> >> Also fewer abstractions which allow you to think in higher terms. >> > > I am so sick of your limited and shallow kind. I believe you that you are sick. > For one thing, who do you think creates the stuff that allows > you to utilize your cherished abstractions? > > Also, abstractions are NOT excluded from assembly language > programming. They just never leave the programmers head > to assume an independent symbolic form. > > You make me ill. I do not deny you are ill. -- * OS X / Linux: What is a file? <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI> * Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk> * OS / Word Processor Comparison: <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>
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| From | Slimer <.m@nsn.s> |
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| Date | 2015-11-12 18:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <n237nq$lgb$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #332710 |
On 2015-11-12 4:32 PM, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 10:20:34 -0700, Snit wrote: > >> >>> I have cut my teeth on assembly language. Once that fundamental stuff >>> gets into your blood it never gets out. >> >> How do you think this is relevant? >> > > It is relevant because the whole fscking world seemed to have fallen > madly in love with Object Oriented programming, and I happen to despise > OO with a raging passion. > > I have examined the issue deeply, and I can only conclude that OO > is so fscking popular because people no longer can comprehend > hardware. They are lost in the fogs of lofty OO abstractions and > cannot perceive the machine. > > But for me it is quite different. I BEGAN with hardware and assembly > language. I BEGAN with an intimate involvement with hardware. As > a result I can see nothing but the machine. Oh yes, I can understand > all the abstractions but, for me, such abstractions quickly fade into > nothing against the blazing image of the machine. > > When I encounter high level code of any kind, my mind cannot help > but to plunge immediately down into the assembly code that underlies > it all. Thus, as a consequence, I do not not especially favor > the creation of ever higher abstractions that serve only to > obliterate and not truly enlighten. > > It is, I suppose a sickness, but it is a sickness from which no > escape, or cure, is possible. All anyone needs to know is that coding directly in Assembly means that your code will take full advantage of the machine's power. No slowdowns, just full speed. -- Slimer
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| From | Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> |
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| Date | 2015-11-13 00:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pan.2015.11.13.00.41.05@localhost.localdomain> |
| In reply to | #332745 |
On Thu, 12 Nov 2015 18:37:41 -0500, Slimer wrote: > > All anyone needs to know is that coding directly in Assembly means that > your code will take full advantage of the machine's power. No slowdowns, > just full speed. > Yes. But also the problems of caching and pipelining can also be more readily addressed. Furthermore, the API is directly available as system calls and so writing very complex assembly code is not that intractable.
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