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Just click "like"

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First post2015-08-29 14:33 -0500
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  Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:33 -0500
    Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 21:12 +0000
      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 14:23 -0700
        Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 23:20 +0000
          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 16:36 -0700
            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:37 +0000
              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:43 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 01:23 +0000
                  Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 01:36 +0000
                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:58 -0700
                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:53 -0700
              Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 01:18 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:17 -0700
                  Re: Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:53 -0500
                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 10:58 -0700
                      Re: Just click "like" Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:44 -0700
                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 21:03 +0000
                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:38 -0700
                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:00 +0000
                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 15:15 -0700
                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:43 +0000
                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 17:33 -0700
                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 03:25 +0000
                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 21:06 -0700
                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:11 +0000
                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:18 -0700
                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:35 +0000
                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:37 -0700
                                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:50 +0000
                                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:55 -0700
                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 06:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 23:39 -0700
                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 07:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 00:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 12:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 09:25 -0700
                                                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 20:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 14:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 21:56 +0000
                                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 16:45 -0700
                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 01:51 +0200
                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 00:34 +0000
                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:55 -0700
                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 01:10 +0000
                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 18:25 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 02:11 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 19:21 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 03:10 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 20:35 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 04:11 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 21:45 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 16:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 17:10 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 17:30 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:40 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:16 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:41 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:53 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:12 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:19 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:28 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:39 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:56 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:11 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:57 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:42 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:47 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:58 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:13 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:17 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 21:50 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 20:46 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 12:13 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 21:43 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 13:42 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 22:01 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:07 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:08 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-09-01 23:14 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:42 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:14 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:35 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:43 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 22:46 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:14 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:30 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:36 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:59 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:16 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:14 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 21:53 -0700
                                                                                                                            Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 10:18 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 14:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 14:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 16:13 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 08:08 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:03 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:21 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:09 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:36 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:25 +0000
                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 00:21 +0000
                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:46 -0700
                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 01:04 +0000
                                                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 18:17 -0700
                      Re: Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 21:49 -0500
                Re: Just click "like" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-31 07:35 -0500
          Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 15:21 -0600
            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:39 -0700
              Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-31 13:32 -0600
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 12:49 -0700
                  Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 11:38 -0600
        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:35 +0000
          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:46 -0700
            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:56 +0000
              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:16 -0700
    Re: Just click "like" John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:29 -0700

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#318492

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 16:12 -0700
Message-ID<D20B7EE9.599D1%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318487
On 9/1/15, 3:53 PM, in article fsmdnbv83.jdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>> At this point you have engaged in great advocacy for Linux - better than
>>>> any
>>>> I have seen from anyone else in COLA. Ever. I commend you for it.
>>> 
>>>> But you got to the limits of what you could get Linux to do and then
>>>> started
>>>> getting rather nasty. So be it.
>>> 
>>> https://vid.me/OGi4
>>> 
>> I assume a universal hot key to print to recipes?
> 
> Magic.

I could also make a special script to do the whole thing... including the
edits. Well, I think I can - have not tried. But that is a bit silly.

I mean, sure, if this is a primary thing you do on a daily basis, maybe, but
we already discussed that to do all these things would mean dozens if not
hundreds of hot keys. One for saving files to a recipes folder. One for
saving it to receipts. One for saving to the desktop. One for saving to
downloads. 

Completely absurd for most users.

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#318495

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 23:19 +0000
Message-ID<sre.i0v@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318492
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 3:53 PM, in article fsmdnbv83.jdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>>> At this point you have engaged in great advocacy for Linux - better than
>>>>> any
>>>>> I have seen from anyone else in COLA. Ever. I commend you for it.
>>>> 
>>>>> But you got to the limits of what you could get Linux to do and then
>>>>> started
>>>>> getting rather nasty. So be it.
>>>> 
>>>> https://vid.me/OGi4
>>>> 
>>> I assume a universal hot key to print to recipes?
>> 
>> Magic.

> I could also make a special script to do the whole thing... including the
> edits. Well, I think I can - have not tried. But that is a bit silly.

I'll believe it when I see it.  That's my challenge to you.  Duplicate
what I just did in that video using your Mac.

> I mean, sure, if this is a primary thing you do on a daily basis, maybe, but
> we already discussed that to do all these things would mean dozens if not
> hundreds of hot keys.

No, *you* claimed that.  All of it could be done from *one* menu, tied
to *one* sprinkle of magic dust.

> One for saving files to a recipes folder. One for
> saving it to receipts. One for saving to the desktop. One for saving to
> downloads. 

Thinking things through is not your strong suit, I see.


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#318498

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 16:28 -0700
Message-ID<D20B82CB.599DA%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318495
On 9/1/15, 4:19 PM, in article sre.i0v@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 9/1/15, 3:53 PM, in article fsmdnbv83.jdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> At this point you have engaged in great advocacy for Linux - better than
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> I have seen from anyone else in COLA. Ever. I commend you for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> But you got to the limits of what you could get Linux to do and then
>>>>>> started
>>>>>> getting rather nasty. So be it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> https://vid.me/OGi4
>>>>> 
>>>> I assume a universal hot key to print to recipes?
>>> 
>>> Magic.
> 
>> I could also make a special script to do the whole thing... including the
>> edits. Well, I think I can - have not tried. But that is a bit silly.
> 
> I'll believe it when I see it.  That's my challenge to you.  Duplicate
> what I just did in that video using your Mac.

I was talking about my video... and just tried it... was able to do it but
the arrow did not work, nor did my moving of the text. Oddly enough the name
of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.

So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.

Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
what you see as the key points?

>> I mean, sure, if this is a primary thing you do on a daily basis, maybe, but
>> we already discussed that to do all these things would mean dozens if not
>> hundreds of hot keys.
> 
> No, *you* claimed that.  All of it could be done from *one* menu, tied
> to *one* sprinkle of magic dust.

One menu with a million items... and on the desktop. And even then you are
only doing some of what I show.

>> One for saving files to a recipes folder. One for
>> saving it to receipts. One for saving to the desktop. One for saving to
>> downloads. 
> 
> Thinking things through is not your strong suit, I see.

Insults are boring.


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318501

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 23:39 +0000
Message-ID<ade430f.apef@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318498
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 4:19 PM, in article sre.i0v@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 3:53 PM, in article fsmdnbv83.jdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>> At this point you have engaged in great advocacy for Linux - better than
>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>> I have seen from anyone else in COLA. Ever. I commend you for it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> But you got to the limits of what you could get Linux to do and then
>>>>>>> started
>>>>>>> getting rather nasty. So be it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> https://vid.me/OGi4
>>>>>> 
>>>>> I assume a universal hot key to print to recipes?
>>>> 
>>>> Magic.
>> 
>>> I could also make a special script to do the whole thing... including the
>>> edits. Well, I think I can - have not tried. But that is a bit silly.
>> 
>> I'll believe it when I see it.  That's my challenge to you.  Duplicate
>> what I just did in that video using your Mac.

> I was talking about my video... and just tried it... was able to do it but
> the arrow did not work, nor did my moving of the text. Oddly enough the name
> of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.

> So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.

> Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
> what you see as the key points?

Go to the recipes site.  Find one you like.  It magically ends up as a
PDF file in your Recipes folder.  No menus allowed.

>>> I mean, sure, if this is a primary thing you do on a daily basis, maybe, but
>>> we already discussed that to do all these things would mean dozens if not
>>> hundreds of hot keys.
>> 
>> No, *you* claimed that.  All of it could be done from *one* menu, tied
>> to *one* sprinkle of magic dust.

> One menu with a million items...

Sounds like the OS X Print Dialog.

> and on the desktop. And even then you are
> only doing some of what I show.

>>> One for saving files to a recipes folder. One for
>>> saving it to receipts. One for saving to the desktop. One for saving to
>>> downloads. 
>>

Like you have in the OS X Print Dialog.
 
>> Thinking things through is not your strong suit, I see.

> Insults are boring.

Imagination is not.

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#318504

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 23:56 +0000
Message-ID<fadsm80.afew@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318501
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 9/1/15, 4:19 PM, in article sre.i0v@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/1/15, 3:53 PM, in article fsmdnbv83.jdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 

>> of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.

>> So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.

>> Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
>> what you see as the key points?

> Go to the recipes site.  Find one you like.  It magically ends up as a
> PDF file in your Recipes folder.  No menus allowed.

Oh, btw.  Make it multiple recipes, and with unique names for the PDFs.

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#318508

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 00:11 +0000
Message-ID<eadfad.38@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318504
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 4:19 PM, in article sre.i0v@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/1/15, 3:53 PM, in article fsmdnbv83.jdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 

>>> of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.

>>> So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.

>>> Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
>>> what you see as the key points?

>> Go to the recipes site.  Find one you like.  It magically ends up as a
>> PDF file in your Recipes folder.  No menus allowed.

> Oh, btw.  Make it multiple recipes, and with unique names for the PDFs.

Oh, and no dialogs allowed either.

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#318520

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 17:57 -0700
Message-ID<D20B977F.599FA%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318508
On 9/1/15, 5:11 PM, in article eadfad.38@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/1/15, 4:19 PM, in article sre.i0v@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/1/15, 3:53 PM, in article fsmdnbv83.jdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> 
> 
>>>> of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.
> 
>>>> So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.
> 
>>>> Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
>>>> what you see as the key points?
> 
>>> Go to the recipes site.  Find one you like.  It magically ends up as a
>>> PDF file in your Recipes folder.  No menus allowed.
> 
>> Oh, btw.  Make it multiple recipes, and with unique names for the PDFs.
> 
> Oh, and no dialogs allowed either.

They come up on their own. Who cares. You end up selecting your URL... it is
an absurd method. But it comes down to Linux does not handle this well so
you are just going to keep adding things and being silly.

I am talking about real-world situations.


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#318517

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 17:42 -0700
Message-ID<D20B93EC.599F0%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318501
On 9/1/15, 4:39 PM, in article ade430f.apef@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

...
>> I was talking about my video... and just tried it... was able to do it but
>> the arrow did not work, nor did my moving of the text. Oddly enough the name
>> of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.
> 
>> So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.
> 
>> Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
>> what you see as the key points?
> 
> Go to the recipes site.  Find one you like.  It magically ends up as a
> PDF file in your Recipes folder.  No menus allowed.

Trivial... but absurd, unless you need to use this folder a *lot*.

But, here: <http://youtu.be/A6CBTDaFATI>

While this might fit some special need, overall it is absurd.

>>>> I mean, sure, if this is a primary thing you do on a daily basis, maybe,
>>>> but we already discussed that to do all these things would mean dozens if
>>>> not hundreds of hot keys.
>>>> 
>>> No, *you* claimed that.  All of it could be done from *one* menu, tied to
>>> *one* sprinkle of magic dust.
>>> 
>> One menu with a million items...
>> 
> Sounds like the OS X Print Dialog.

Not even slightly!

>> and on the desktop. And even then you are
>> only doing some of what I show.
> 
>>>> One for saving files to a recipes folder. One for
>>>> saving it to receipts. One for saving to the desktop. One for saving to
>>>> downloads. 
> 
> Like you have in the OS X Print Dialog.

Nope. It handles PDF Services and that's it. Really, you are just being
absurd here. And I suspect even you know it.

...


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#318518

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 00:47 +0000
Message-ID<fadn83.asdfi@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318517
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 4:39 PM, in article ade430f.apef@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> ...
>>> I was talking about my video... and just tried it... was able to do it but
>>> the arrow did not work, nor did my moving of the text. Oddly enough the name
>>> of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.
>> 
>>> So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.
>> 
>>> Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
>>> what you see as the key points?
>> 
>> Go to the recipes site.  Find one you like.  It magically ends up as a
>> PDF file in your Recipes folder.  No menus allowed.

> Trivial... but absurd, unless you need to use this folder a *lot*.

> But, here: <http://youtu.be/A6CBTDaFATI>

> While this might fit some special need, overall it is absurd.

FAIL!  That's automating menus.  No menus allowed!


>> 
>>>>> One for saving files to a recipes folder. One for
>>>>> saving it to receipts. One for saving to the desktop. One for saving to
>>>>> downloads. 
>> 
>> Like you have in the OS X Print Dialog.

> Nope. It handles PDF Services and that's it.

What about all that crap under PDF Services?

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#318521

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 17:58 -0700
Message-ID<D20B97B8.599FB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318518
On 9/1/15, 5:47 PM, in article fadn83.asdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 9/1/15, 4:39 PM, in article ade430f.apef@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> ...
>>>> I was talking about my video... and just tried it... was able to do it but
>>>> the arrow did not work, nor did my moving of the text. Oddly enough the
>>>> name of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.
>>>> 
>>>> So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.
>>>> 
>>>> Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
>>>> what you see as the key points?
>>>> 
>>> Go to the recipes site.  Find one you like.  It magically ends up as a PDF
>>> file in your Recipes folder.  No menus allowed.
>>> 
>> Trivial... but absurd, unless you need to use this folder a *lot*.
> 
>> But, here: <http://youtu.be/A6CBTDaFATI>
> 
>> While this might fit some special need, overall it is absurd.
> 
> FAIL!  That's automating menus.  No menus allowed!

Single hot key.

>>> 
>>>>>> One for saving files to a recipes folder. One for
>>>>>> saving it to receipts. One for saving to the desktop. One for saving to
>>>>>> downloads. 
>>> 
>>> Like you have in the OS X Print Dialog.
> 
>> Nope. It handles PDF Services and that's it.
> 
> What about all that crap under PDF Services?

What are you talking about? Those are PDF Services, not everything tied to
the Finder menu.

At this point you are just trolling. OK. Fine. Let us not pretend otherwise.

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#318528

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 01:13 +0000
Message-ID<asdf3.a09dvc@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318521
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 5:47 PM, in article fadn83.asdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 4:39 PM, in article ade430f.apef@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> ...
>>>>> I was talking about my video... and just tried it... was able to do it but
>>>>> the arrow did not work, nor did my moving of the text. Oddly enough the
>>>>> name of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
>>>>> what you see as the key points?
>>>>> 
>>>> Go to the recipes site.  Find one you like.  It magically ends up as a PDF
>>>> file in your Recipes folder.  No menus allowed.
>>>> 
>>> Trivial... but absurd, unless you need to use this folder a *lot*.
>> 
>>> But, here: <http://youtu.be/A6CBTDaFATI>
>> 
>>> While this might fit some special need, overall it is absurd.
>> 
>> FAIL!  That's automating menus.  No menus allowed!

> Single hot key.

FAIL!  No menus allowed.  No dialogs allowed.  Must have multiple recipes
with unique filenames based on timestamp.

>>>> 
>>>>>>> One for saving files to a recipes folder. One for
>>>>>>> saving it to receipts. One for saving to the desktop. One for saving to
>>>>>>> downloads. 
>>>> 
>>>> Like you have in the OS X Print Dialog.
>> 
>>> Nope. It handles PDF Services and that's it.
>> 
>> What about all that crap under PDF Services?

> What are you talking about? Those are PDF Services, not everything tied to
> the Finder menu.

What's the "Finder menu" got to with it?

> At this point you are just trolling. OK. Fine. Let us not pretend otherwise.

At this point we see you cannot reproduce on OS X the actions I show
in my video.

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#318544

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 04:17 +0000
Message-ID<fnahd8.3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318528
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 6:13 PM, in article asdf3.a09dvc@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 5:47 PM, in article fadn83.asdfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 9/1/15, 4:39 PM, in article ade430f.apef@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> ...
>>>>>>> I was talking about my video... and just tried it... was able to do it
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> the arrow did not work, nor did my moving of the text. Oddly enough the
>>>>>>> name of the file also got mangled. I could fix those things if I cared.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So I *could* streamline things to one click. That is silly though.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Will look at your video again and see if I can replicate it. Can you list
>>>>>>> what you see as the key points?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Go to the recipes site.  Find one you like.  It magically ends up as a PDF
>>>>>> file in your Recipes folder.  No menus allowed.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Trivial... but absurd, unless you need to use this folder a *lot*.
>>>> 
>>>>> But, here: <http://youtu.be/A6CBTDaFATI>
>>>> 
>>>>> While this might fit some special need, overall it is absurd.
>>>> 
>>>> FAIL!  That's automating menus.  No menus allowed!
>> 
>>> Single hot key.
>> 
>> FAIL!  No menus allowed.  No dialogs allowed.  Must have multiple recipes
>> with unique filenames based on timestamp.
>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One for saving files to a recipes folder. One for
>>>>>>>>> saving it to receipts. One for saving to the desktop. One for saving to
>>>>>>>>> downloads.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Like you have in the OS X Print Dialog.
>>>> 
>>>>> Nope. It handles PDF Services and that's it.
>>>> 
>>>> What about all that crap under PDF Services?
>> 
>>> What are you talking about? Those are PDF Services, not everything tied to
>>> the Finder menu.
>> 
>> What's the "Finder menu" got to with it?

> The file manager menu. Whatever. At this point you are just trolling. Linux
> failed when it came to doing basic tasks and so now you are looking for
> loopholes.

> How about this: post some tasks YOU do... real world ones. See how THOSE are
> done on other OSs. That would possibly lead to an interesting discussion and
> good advocacy.

I don't think anybody wants to see a video of me hanging out in usenet.

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#318551

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 05:23 +0000
Message-ID<fsamnv83.jids@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318544
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 9:17 PM, in article fnahd8.3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>>> What are you talking about? Those are PDF Services, not everything tied to
>>>>> the Finder menu.
>>>> 
>>>> What's the "Finder menu" got to with it?
>> 
>>> The file manager menu. Whatever. At this point you are just trolling. Linux
>>> failed when it came to doing basic tasks and so now you are looking for
>>> loopholes.
>> 
>>> How about this: post some tasks YOU do... real world ones. See how THOSE are
>>> done on other OSs. That would possibly lead to an interesting discussion and
>>> good advocacy.
>> 
>> I don't think anybody wants to see a video of me hanging out in usenet.

> LOL! So you do nothing else. OK.

> By the way, I still would love to see you have your videos do even basic
> zooming, highlighting, etc. as I do. :)

gnome doesn't have a proper zoom tool.  Zooming would have to be done
in post-production in something like cinelerra.  Too much effort for
this.  Maybe one day i'll fiddle with it and see how much work is
involved.  IIRC, when I toyed with cinelerra before, it required
taking the video to a VM running ubuntu 14.04 or something with
that crappy unity, and it just wasn't worth having to deal with
*that* plus the learning curve for cinelerra.   

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#318542

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 04:09 +0000
Message-ID<fadnm9.vasd3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318474
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 3:16 PM, in article fadmnv83.adjo@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 10:30 AM, in article 3af9.fjdso@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>>>>>>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.
>>>> 
>>>>> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?
>>>> 
>>>> OK, but now how do I get this off my shoe?
>> 
>>> Why not just admit that your solution of replicating "PDF Services" is a
>>> rather bizarre hack where you had to right click on the desktop and not work
>>> within the standard workflow of the program?
>> 
>>> You know: be honest.
>> 
>>> At this point you have engaged in great advocacy for Linux - better than any
>>> I have seen from anyone else in COLA. Ever. I commend you for it.
>> 
>>> But you got to the limits of what you could get Linux to do and then started
>>> getting rather nasty. So be it.
>> 
>> https://vid.me/OGi4
>> 
> You are not even printing the one page recipe here... but four pages of
> extra stuff. 

I'm not printing *anything*.  What's with this "printing" crap?  I'm saving
a recipe to a Recipes file.

> So on printing recipes your method, hand made to have a hot key just for
> that (which is unlikely to be real-world unless you have 100 specialized hot
> keys or you do this a lot) is not even working correctly.

I thought this was supposed to be something you "do a lot".  That's the
whole reason to set up this so-called "streamlined" workflow in the
PDF services, right?

> I mean, really, who is going to save recipes so often they need a hot key
> just for that *but* also not care enough to save the formatted recipe.

Who is going to save recipes so often that they need to create a "workflow"
in OS X PDF Services just for that task?

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#318547

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 21:50 -0700
Message-ID<D20BCE0B.59A52%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318542
On 9/1/15, 9:09 PM, in article fadnm9.vasd3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

...
>>> https://vid.me/OGi4
>>> 
>> You are not even printing the one page recipe here... but four pages of
>> extra stuff. 
> 
> I'm not printing *anything*.  What's with this "printing" crap?  I'm saving
> a recipe to a Recipes file.

OK, you are not *saving* the recipe file that is generally printed but
instead you are saving a four page file with the recipe, comments, a list of
other related recipes, etc.

>> So on printing recipes your method, hand made to have a hot key just for
>> that (which is unlikely to be real-world unless you have 100 specialized hot
>> keys or you do this a lot) is not even working correctly.
> 
> I thought this was supposed to be something you "do a lot".  That's the
> whole reason to set up this so-called "streamlined" workflow in the
> PDF services, right?

You showed a recipe... which was the goal. And, yes, I often print / save /
email recipes As I said, for others it might be something else. But in this
case you are not doing the task shown *at all*. Not even close. Here:

<http://youtu.be/1pRvGFbwETs>

Saving to PDF, to a specific Recipes folder (in this case one just for you)
is pretty easy to do. Now, like you, I had to make modifications to do
this... it is a pretty absurd task! Unless I was saving recipes all the time
I would not want a hot key - and if I was saving to Recipes, Web Receipts,
Download, and Desktop (which are all true on my system) I would not want to
have to remember four different hot keys. If I was stuck with a hot keys I
would likely just not do it... or if I had to go to the desktop to click and
leave the program I would likely not do it. Not like digging through a save
dialog is a big deal!

>> I mean, really, who is going to save recipes so often they need a hot key
>> just for that *but* also not care enough to save the formatted recipe.
> 
> Who is going to save recipes so often that they need to create a "workflow"
> in OS X PDF Services just for that task?

I do. This is real world for me. But I would grant that Web Receipts is more
common... and others might want things like art instructions. Whatever.



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#318550

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-02 05:16 +0000
Message-ID<fsfdm80.asf3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318547
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 9:09 PM, in article fadnm9.vasd3@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> ...
>>>> https://vid.me/OGi4
>>>> 
>>> You are not even printing the one page recipe here... but four pages of
>>> extra stuff. 
>> 
>> I'm not printing *anything*.  What's with this "printing" crap?  I'm saving
>> a recipe to a Recipes file.

> OK, you are not *saving* the recipe file that is generally printed but
> instead you are saving a four page file with the recipe, comments, a list of
> other related recipes, etc.

What's that sound?  Is somebody moving the goalposts again?

>>> So on printing recipes your method, hand made to have a hot key just for
>>> that (which is unlikely to be real-world unless you have 100 specialized hot
>>> keys or you do this a lot) is not even working correctly.
>> 
>> I thought this was supposed to be something you "do a lot".  That's the
>> whole reason to set up this so-called "streamlined" workflow in the
>> PDF services, right?

> You showed a recipe... which was the goal. And, yes, I often print / save /
> email recipes As I said, for others it might be something else. But in this
> case you are not doing the task shown *at all*. Not even close. Here:

> <http://youtu.be/1pRvGFbwETs>

Dude, you realize that's just a print-friendly version of the page.
It has nothing to do with actually printing.  Here is my magic dust
method with the exact site and recipes you used:

https://vid.me/cqyg

Much smoother.  No crazy menu dance.  Same print-friendly pages.

> Saving to PDF, to a specific Recipes folder (in this case one just for you)
> is pretty easy to do. Now, like you, I had to make modifications to do
> this... it is a pretty absurd task! Unless I was saving recipes all the time
> I would not want a hot key - and if I was saving to Recipes, Web Receipts,
> Download, and Desktop (which are all true on my system) I would not want to
> have to remember four different hot keys. If I was stuck with a hot keys I
> would likely just not do it... or if I had to go to the desktop to click and
> leave the program I would likely not do it. Not like digging through a save
> dialog is a big deal!

>>> I mean, really, who is going to save recipes so often they need a hot key
>>> just for that *but* also not care enough to save the formatted recipe.
>> 
>> Who is going to save recipes so often that they need to create a "workflow"
>> in OS X PDF Services just for that task?

> I do. This is real world for me. But I would grant that Web Receipts is more
> common... and others might want things like art instructions. Whatever.

Then you/they would want the most efficient method: The Linux method.

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#318375

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 10:38 -0700
Message-ID<D20B30A6.598ED%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318358
On 9/1/15, 10:10 AM, in article
55e5dc1d$0$64284$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
<vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:

> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> 
>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>> 
>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.
> 
> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?

He snipped my footnote (but not the reference to it) and ignored the actual
video where I talk about it: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>.

Keep in mind the discussion has been about workflows in the GUI, *not* about
what is technically happening in the background. That is not relevant to the
discussion.

Comes down to this: Owl engaged in some good advocacy, better than most of
your herd ever has. He showed Linux doing pretty much any given task I
showed in an alternate system, though perhaps not quite as streamlined. He
also showed a task Peter mentioned, converting files in the file manager to
PDF, in a way which I was able to emulate but *not* as well as his (mine had
some advantages but overall his was better).

Fine. Each was shown to have advantages, neither of us was claiming the
other was a bad choice to use, and we were talking about technology and
educating each other. Excellent conversation.

But then Owl was *not* able to replicate PDF Services other than to have
people right click on the desktop as opposed to the program itself. Ouch.
This is a whacky workflow and, apparently at least, to not clutter his menus
he removed other items we had talked about and used.

I noted PDF Services is available in any program that uses the standard OS X
print dialog - no need to go to the desktop or otherwise leave the program.
And no need to modify my system between showing tasks it handles well... OS
X handles all these things at once. I show many of them here:
<https://youtu.be/fRyYZD15s0c>.

At this point no more videos from him. It seems doing multiple of the things
at once, without reconfiguring his computer, is outside what he can do
(though I bet he is busy working on a solution to cover the exact set of
things I show in that video... which would be cool if he could do on one
level but sorta misses the point on another... the idea is I do not have to
reconfigure to get lots of great workflows).

-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318409

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-01 20:46 +0200
Message-ID<ms4rn8$6a0$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#318375
The imbecile liar Snit Michael Glasser babbled:

> On 9/1/15, 10:10 AM, in article
> 55e5dc1d$0$64284$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
> <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:
>> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> 
>>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>>>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>>> 
>>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.
>> 
>> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?
> 
> He snipped my footnote (but not the reference to it) and ignored the
> actual video where I talk about it: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>.
> 
> Keep in mind the discussion has been about workflows in the GUI, *not*
> about what is technically happening in the background. That is not
> relevant to the discussion.

Because it proves you wrong, you forgot to mention

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#318419

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 12:13 -0700
Message-ID<D20B46D5.59930%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318409
On 9/1/15, 11:46 AM, in article ms4rn8$6a0$6@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

> The imbecile liar Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
> 
>> On 9/1/15, 10:10 AM, in article
>> 55e5dc1d$0$64284$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
>> <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> 
>>>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>>>>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>>>> 
>>>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.
>>> 
>>> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?
>> 
>> He snipped my footnote (but not the reference to it) and ignored the
>> actual video where I talk about it: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>.
>> 
>> Keep in mind the discussion has been about workflows in the GUI, *not*
>> about what is technically happening in the background. That is not
>> relevant to the discussion.
> 
> Because it proves you wrong, you forgot to mention

Why not talk about technology and not just scream how you think people are
wrong in ways you cannot explain. In my video, by the way, I prove I am
right. :)


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318438

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-01 21:43 +0200
Message-ID<ms4v1g$kbv$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#318419
Snit wrote:

> On 9/1/15, 11:46 AM, in article ms4rn8$6a0$6@dont-email.me, "Peter
> Köhlmann" <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> 
>> The imbecile liar Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>> 
>>> On 9/1/15, 10:10 AM, in article
>>> 55e5dc1d$0$64284$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com, "vallor"
>>> <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> 
>>>>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop
>>>>>> is as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.
>>>> 
>>>> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?
>>> 
>>> He snipped my footnote (but not the reference to it) and ignored the
>>> actual video where I talk about it: <https://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>.
>>> 
>>> Keep in mind the discussion has been about workflows in the GUI, *not*
>>> about what is technically happening in the background. That is not
>>> relevant to the discussion.
>> 
>> Because it proves you wrong, you forgot to mention
> 
> Why not talk about technology 

You have yet to talk about tech for the vey first time. You know nothing 
about technology

> and not just scream how you think people are
> wrong in ways you cannot explain. 

You think that your snipping of proof is the same as "being unable to 
explain"

> In my video, by the way, I prove I am
> right. :)
> 


Your forged and dorctored evidence is of no interest

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