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Just click "like"

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First post2015-08-29 14:33 -0500
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  Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:33 -0500
    Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 21:12 +0000
      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 14:23 -0700
        Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 23:20 +0000
          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 16:36 -0700
            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:37 +0000
              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:43 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 01:23 +0000
                  Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 01:36 +0000
                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:58 -0700
                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:53 -0700
              Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 01:18 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:17 -0700
                  Re: Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:53 -0500
                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 10:58 -0700
                      Re: Just click "like" Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:44 -0700
                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 21:03 +0000
                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:38 -0700
                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:00 +0000
                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 15:15 -0700
                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:43 +0000
                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 17:33 -0700
                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 03:25 +0000
                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 21:06 -0700
                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:11 +0000
                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:18 -0700
                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:35 +0000
                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:37 -0700
                                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:50 +0000
                                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:55 -0700
                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 06:18 +0000
                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 23:39 -0700
                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 07:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 00:20 -0700
                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 12:42 +0000
                                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 09:25 -0700
                                                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 20:55 +0000
                                                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 14:04 -0700
                                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 21:56 +0000
                                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 16:45 -0700
                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 01:51 +0200
                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:07 -0700
                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 00:34 +0000
                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:55 -0700
                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 01:10 +0000
                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 18:25 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 02:11 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 19:21 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 03:10 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 20:35 -0700
                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 04:11 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 21:45 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 16:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:00 -0700
                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 17:10 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 17:30 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:40 -0700
                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:16 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:41 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:53 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:12 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:19 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:28 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:39 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:56 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:11 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:57 -0700
                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:42 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:47 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:58 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:13 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:17 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:23 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:09 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 21:50 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:16 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:38 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 20:46 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 12:13 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 21:43 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 13:42 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 22:01 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:07 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:08 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-09-01 23:14 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:42 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:14 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:35 -0700
                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:43 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 22:46 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:14 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:30 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:36 -0700
                                                                                                                  Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:49 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:59 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:16 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:14 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 21:53 -0700
                                                                                                                            Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 10:18 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:07 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 14:31 +0200
                                                                                                                                  Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 14:41 +0200
                                                                                                                                    Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 16:13 +0200
                                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-03 11:37 -0500
                                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 08:08 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:03 -0700
                                                                                                                      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:21 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:09 -0700
                                                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:15 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:36 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:25 +0000
                                                                        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 00:21 +0000
                                                                          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:46 -0700
                                                                            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 01:04 +0000
                                                                              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 18:17 -0700
                      Re: Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 21:49 -0500
                Re: Just click "like" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-31 07:35 -0500
          Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 15:21 -0600
            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:39 -0700
              Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-31 13:32 -0600
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 12:49 -0700
                  Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 11:38 -0600
        Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:35 +0000
          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:46 -0700
            Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:56 +0000
              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:16 -0700
    Re: Just click "like" John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:29 -0700

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#318226

FromPeter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de>
Date2015-09-01 01:51 +0200
Message-ID<ms2p65$p9q$5@dont-email.me>
In reply to#318220
Snit Michael Glasser babbled:

> On 8/31/15, 2:56 PM, in article asmbnc83.jidf@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/31/15, 1:55 PM, in article rlfdsk93.ajfj@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/31/15, 5:42 AM, in article fsanmv93.ki@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, 12:15 AM, in article fasm9fawe.ki@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * File > Print. This is a standard feature of most programs...
>>>>>>>   which ties to system services.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> * Clicking the desktop: This is not going outside the program
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Make up your mind, fool.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Current debate with Owl:
>>>> 
>>>>> * Owl
>>>> 
>>>>> He engaged in some pretty cool advocacy. He showed he could do with
>>>>> Linux quite a few things that can be done on a Mac... though it
>>>>> quickly became clear he had to re-do his set up with what was and was
>>>>> not available. So he presented Linux as being configurable but not
>>>>> having as much connection with
>>>>> context as OS X. Fine. Each has strengths and we learned.
>>>> 
>>>> How did I redo my system with something that's not available?
>> 
>>> Did you not add and remove menu and panel items?
>> 
>> Was "Save to Recipes Folder" already there when you unboxed your Mack?
> 
> Already answered.

Quit lying

>>>>> Then Owl decided this was not good enough and that one should see
>>>>> clicking on the desktop to get a task done (leaving the program you
>>>>> are working on) to be the same as using File > Print because the print
>>>>> dialog is controlled by the system so it is also leaving the program.
>>>>> Utter nonsense.
>>>> 
>>>> Did you ever answer my question about Chrome?
>> 
>>> Yes, but I focused more on the actual topic!
>> 
>> Jog my memory.  Do you consider the system-wide Print Dialog to be a
>> part of Chrome?
> 
> Already answered and irrelevant... 

Quit lying

> let's focus on 

your continuing failure to answer simple questions because they don't fit 
your agenda

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#318239

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-08-31 17:07 -0700
Message-ID<D20A3A52.597E5%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318226
On 8/31/15, 4:51 PM, in article ms2p65$p9q$5@dont-email.me, "Peter Köhlmann"
<peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:

... 
>> Already answered and irrelevant...
> 
> Quit lying
> 
>> let's focus on 
> 
> your continuing failure to answer simple questions because they don't fit
> your agenda

Gee, I am not going to go off track and re-answer irrelevant questions over
and over as Owl absurdly pretends that clicking on the desktop to get a task
done (leaving the program you are working on) to be the same as using File >
Print because the print dialog is controlled by the system so it is also
leaving the program.

I mean, really, Peter, you keep showing yourself to be completely
incompetent... don't you want to TRY to make sense this time? Just try!

But you won't. :)


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318244

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 00:34 +0000
Message-ID<sfmg803af.oa@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318226
Peter K??hlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> wrote:
> Snit Michael Glasser babbled:

>> On 8/31/15, 2:56 PM, in article asmbnc83.jidf@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/31/15, 1:55 PM, in article rlfdsk93.ajfj@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/31/15, 5:42 AM, in article fsanmv93.ki@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, 12:15 AM, in article fasm9fawe.ki@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> * File > Print. This is a standard feature of most programs...
>>>>>>>>   which ties to system services.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> * Clicking the desktop: This is not going outside the program
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Make up your mind, fool.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Current debate with Owl:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> * Owl
>>>>> 
>>>>>> He engaged in some pretty cool advocacy. He showed he could do with
>>>>>> Linux quite a few things that can be done on a Mac... though it
>>>>>> quickly became clear he had to re-do his set up with what was and was
>>>>>> not available. So he presented Linux as being configurable but not
>>>>>> having as much connection with
>>>>>> context as OS X. Fine. Each has strengths and we learned.
>>>>> 
>>>>> How did I redo my system with something that's not available?
>>> 
>>>> Did you not add and remove menu and panel items?
>>> 
>>> Was "Save to Recipes Folder" already there when you unboxed your Mack?
>> 
>> Already answered.

> Quit lying

>>>>>> Then Owl decided this was not good enough and that one should see
>>>>>> clicking on the desktop to get a task done (leaving the program you
>>>>>> are working on) to be the same as using File > Print because the print
>>>>>> dialog is controlled by the system so it is also leaving the program.
>>>>>> Utter nonsense.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Did you ever answer my question about Chrome?
>>> 
>>>> Yes, but I focused more on the actual topic!
>>> 
>>> Jog my memory.  Do you consider the system-wide Print Dialog to be a
>>> part of Chrome?
>> 
>> Already answered and irrelevant... 

> Quit lying

>> let's focus on 

> your continuing failure to answer simple questions because they don't fit 
> your agenda

The truth hurts, and he doesn't want to face it, so he has to lie.
It's almost pitiful watching him squirm.


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#318247

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-08-31 17:55 -0700
Message-ID<D20A457C.597F4%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318244
On 8/31/15, 5:34 PM, in article sfmg803af.oa@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>> Jog my memory.  Do you consider the system-wide Print Dialog to be a
>>>> part of Chrome?
>>> 
>>> Already answered and irrelevant...
> 
>> Quit lying
> 
>>> let's focus on 
> 
>> your continuing failure to answer simple questions because they don't fit
>> your agenda
> 
> The truth hurts, and he doesn't want to face it, so he has to lie.
> It's almost pitiful watching him squirm.

You are the one saying the truth hurts. Not me.

I am noting that going to File > Print is not going out of the program the
same way going to the desktop is.

And I am absolutely, positively correct. It is not even a close call here.

I explain more about that here:

Save and Print Recipe with Notes: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
More on Context: <http://youtu.be/fRyYZD15s0c>

I keep showing and explaining... and so far seems you have hit your limit on
what Linux can do - no video from you showing being able to do LOTS of
things at once without having to re-configure for a video.

Maybe you will?


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318252

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 01:10 +0000
Message-ID<adfnmvc9.kiasdv@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318247
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/31/15, 5:34 PM, in article sfmg803af.oa@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>>> Jog my memory.  Do you consider the system-wide Print Dialog to be a
>>>>> part of Chrome?
>>>> 
>>>> Already answered and irrelevant...
>> 
>>> Quit lying
>> 
>>>> let's focus on 
>> 
>>> your continuing failure to answer simple questions because they don't fit
>>> your agenda
>> 
>> The truth hurts, and he doesn't want to face it, so he has to lie.
>> It's almost pitiful watching him squirm.

> You are the one saying the truth hurts. Not me.

> I am noting that going to File > Print is not going out of the program the
> same way going to the desktop is.

It is under Mack.  All the application does is gives you a view to that
system-wide utility.

> And I am absolutely, positively correct. It is not even a close call here.

You are wrong.

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#318258

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-08-31 18:25 -0700
Message-ID<D20A4CA1.59806%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318252
On 8/31/15, 6:10 PM, in article adfnmvc9.kiasdv@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 8/31/15, 5:34 PM, in article sfmg803af.oa@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>>> Jog my memory.  Do you consider the system-wide Print Dialog to be a
>>>>>> part of Chrome?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Already answered and irrelevant...
>>> 
>>>> Quit lying
>>> 
>>>>> let's focus on
>>> 
>>>> your continuing failure to answer simple questions because they don't fit
>>>> your agenda
>>> 
>>> The truth hurts, and he doesn't want to face it, so he has to lie.
>>> It's almost pitiful watching him squirm.
> 
>> You are the one saying the truth hurts. Not me.
> 
>> I am noting that going to File > Print is not going out of the program the
>> same way going to the desktop is.
> 
> It is under Mack.  All the application does is gives you a view to that
> system-wide utility.
> 
>> And I am absolutely, positively correct. It is not even a close call here.
> 
> You are wrong.
> 
Context: <https://youtu.be/mb3Y7xjwnoo>
Save and Print Recipe with Notes: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
More on Context: <http://youtu.be/fRyYZD15s0c>

The first "Context" one is long and rambling... second one not so much. The
point is to show you all these features I talk about are always there but
not in the way. Also am very clear where OS X is not perfect.

It also shows how the print dialog is more tied to the program than leaving
the program to go to the desktop.

Really, Owl, TRY to stop playing games where you back yourself into a corner
having to pretend that the desktop is as much a part of a browser as the
browser's print dialog. Once you started doing that you showed you were a
bit lost.


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#318277

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 02:11 +0000
Message-ID<fsnmvjd93.a38@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318258
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/31/15, 6:10 PM, in article adfnmvc9.kiasdv@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/31/15, 5:34 PM, in article sfmg803af.oa@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>> Jog my memory.  Do you consider the system-wide Print Dialog to be a
>>>>>>> part of Chrome?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Already answered and irrelevant...
>>>> 
>>>>> Quit lying
>>>> 
>>>>>> let's focus on
>>>> 
>>>>> your continuing failure to answer simple questions because they don't fit
>>>>> your agenda
>>>> 
>>>> The truth hurts, and he doesn't want to face it, so he has to lie.
>>>> It's almost pitiful watching him squirm.
>> 
>>> You are the one saying the truth hurts. Not me.
>> 
>>> I am noting that going to File > Print is not going out of the program the
>>> same way going to the desktop is.
>> 
>> It is under Mack.  All the application does is gives you a view to that
>> system-wide utility.
>> 
>>> And I am absolutely, positively correct. It is not even a close call here.
>> 
>> You are wrong.
>> 
...

> Really, Owl, TRY to stop playing games where you back yourself into a corner
> having to pretend that the desktop is as much a part of a browser as the
> browser's print dialog.

It is not "the browser's print dialog."  It is the System Print Dialog.
If you think otherwise, explain how modifications to the System Print
Dialog in one application propagate to the System Print Dialog opened
by another application.

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#318279

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-08-31 19:21 -0700
Message-ID<D20A59B9.5982B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318277
On 8/31/15, 7:11 PM, in article fsnmvjd93.a38@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 8/31/15, 6:10 PM, in article adfnmvc9.kiasdv@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/31/15, 5:34 PM, in article sfmg803af.oa@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>>>>> Jog my memory.  Do you consider the system-wide Print Dialog to be a
>>>>>>>> part of Chrome?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Already answered and irrelevant...
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Quit lying
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> let's focus on
>>>>> 
>>>>>> your continuing failure to answer simple questions because they don't fit
>>>>>> your agenda
>>>>> 
>>>>> The truth hurts, and he doesn't want to face it, so he has to lie.
>>>>> It's almost pitiful watching him squirm.
>>> 
>>>> You are the one saying the truth hurts. Not me.
>>> 
>>>> I am noting that going to File > Print is not going out of the program the
>>>> same way going to the desktop is.
>>> 
>>> It is under Mack.  All the application does is gives you a view to that
>>> system-wide utility.
>>> 
>>>> And I am absolutely, positively correct. It is not even a close call here.
>>> 
>>> You are wrong.
>>> 
> ...
> 
> 
>> Really, Owl, TRY to stop playing games where you back yourself into a corner
>> having to pretend that the desktop is as much a part of a browser as the
>> browser's print dialog.
> 
> It is not "the browser's print dialog."  It is the System Print Dialog.

The browser is using the system dialog... the browser is not using the
desktops contextual menu, though that menu might have options that impact
the browser.

Seriously, if this confuses you watch my videos:

Save and Print Recipe with Notes: <https://youtu.be/NPM_WldEBs0>
More on Context: <http://youtu.be/fRyYZD15s0c>

> If you think otherwise, explain how modifications to the System Print
> Dialog in one application propagate to the System Print Dialog opened
> by another application.

If you change the default setting they SHOULD carry over to other
programs... just as if you change the settings for your window widgets they
should carry over to most if not all programs.



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#318282

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 03:10 +0000
Message-ID<fadmvnc93.kdjfi@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318279
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/31/15, 7:11 PM, in article fsnmvjd93.a38@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/31/15, 6:10 PM, in article adfnmvc9.kiasdv@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/31/15, 5:34 PM, in article sfmg803af.oa@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Jog my memory.  Do you consider the system-wide Print Dialog to be a
>>>>>>>>> part of Chrome?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Already answered and irrelevant...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Quit lying
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> let's focus on
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> your continuing failure to answer simple questions because they don't fit
>>>>>>> your agenda
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The truth hurts, and he doesn't want to face it, so he has to lie.
>>>>>> It's almost pitiful watching him squirm.
>>>> 
>>>>> You are the one saying the truth hurts. Not me.
>>>> 
>>>>> I am noting that going to File > Print is not going out of the program the
>>>>> same way going to the desktop is.
>>>> 
>>>> It is under Mack.  All the application does is gives you a view to that
>>>> system-wide utility.
>>>> 
>>>>> And I am absolutely, positively correct. It is not even a close call here.
>>>> 
>>>> You are wrong.
>>>> 
>> ...
>> 
>> 
>>> Really, Owl, TRY to stop playing games where you back yourself into a corner
>>> having to pretend that the desktop is as much a part of a browser as the
>>> browser's print dialog.
>> 
>> It is not "the browser's print dialog."  It is the System Print Dialog.

> The browser is using the system dialog... the browser is not using the
> desktops contextual menu, though that menu might have options that impact
> the browser.

The browser is presenting you, the user, with a view on the System Print
Dialog, something external to the browser.

>> If you think otherwise, explain how modifications to the System Print
>> Dialog in one application propagate to the System Print Dialog opened
>> by another application.

> If you change the default setting they SHOULD carry over to other
> programs... just as if you change the settings for your window widgets they
> should carry over to most if not all programs.

All you do here is acknowledge that these modifications should
propagate; you do not explain how you think this propagation of
modifications is accomplished in a context -- which you apparently
believe -- where the print dialog belongs to the application, rather
than being a system-wide print dialog, external to the application,
and shared among all applications.

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#318283

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-08-31 20:35 -0700
Message-ID<D20A6B08.5983A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318282
On 8/31/15, 8:10 PM, in article fadmvnc93.kdjfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>> It is not "the browser's print dialog."  It is the System Print Dialog.
> 
>> The browser is using the system dialog... the browser is not using the
>> desktops contextual menu, though that menu might have options that impact
>> the browser.
> 
> The browser is presenting you, the user, with a view on the System Print
> Dialog, something external to the browser.

External in that it is tied to a system service, sure... but still very much
tied to the browser. Here:

<http://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>

If you really want to know more about this, look here:

<https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Prin
ting/Printing.pdf> OR <https://goo.gl/dDqfcp>
    -----
    At a Glance 
    Most Cocoa apps provide printing support in one form or another.
    When you create a Cocoa app, the Print command is automatically
    provided in the File menu. It¹s straightforward for apps to
    implement printing.
    ...
    Printing on the Mac is not only easy for the user, but the modern
    API provided by OS X is easy for you to use in your app.
    -----

It goes into far more detail than I care to know right now about where the
line is drawn as to what controls what, but clearly the program is calling
the printing tools and those tools are "subservient" to the program.

You are just playing games at this point. By the way, I *could* have shown a
possible area of confusion: right clicking has what I think you call "sloppy
focus", it is based on the context of what you click and not what program
you are in. Same with scrolling.

...

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#318287

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 04:11 +0000
Message-ID<se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318283
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/31/15, 8:10 PM, in article fadmvnc93.kdjfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>>>> It is not "the browser's print dialog."  It is the System Print Dialog.
>> 
>>> The browser is using the system dialog... the browser is not using the
>>> desktops contextual menu, though that menu might have options that impact
>>> the browser.
>> 
>> The browser is presenting you, the user, with a view on the System Print
>> Dialog, something external to the browser.

> External in that it is tied to a system service, sure... but still very much
> tied to the browser. Here:

> <http://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>

> If you really want to know more about this, look here:

> <https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Prin
> ting/Printing.pdf> OR <https://goo.gl/dDqfcp>
>     -----
>     At a Glance 
>     Most Cocoa apps provide printing support in one form or another.
>     When you create a Cocoa app, the Print command is automatically
>     provided in the File menu. It¹s straightforward for apps to
>     implement printing.
>     ...
>     Printing on the Mac is not only easy for the user, but the modern
>     API provided by OS X is easy for you to use in your app.
>     -----

> It goes into far more detail than I care to know right now about where the
> line is drawn as to what controls what, but clearly the program is calling
> the printing tools and those tools are "subservient" to the program.

It is an interface to the printing subsystem.  The application communicates
with that subsystem for print job.  The application does not do that job
itself, nor any of the other hundreds of other things you listed as optional
add-ons to that interface, such as email, pdf conversion, or chat.  The
app does not even create the interface, unless its designers wanted something
custom, as is the case with the default Chrome print dialog.

https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Printing/osxp_printingapi/osxp_printingapi.html

<quote>
NSPrintPanel Creates and Displays the Print Panel

This class manages the standard system Print panel. Your app does not
need to create an NSPrintPanel object unless you want to manage the
printing workflow yourself or add custom print settings for your app
(using an accessory view).
</quote>

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#318289

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-08-31 21:45 -0700
Message-ID<D20A7B8E.59853%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318287
On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 8/31/15, 8:10 PM, in article fadmvnc93.kdjfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>> It is not "the browser's print dialog."  It is the System Print Dialog.
>>> 
>>>> The browser is using the system dialog... the browser is not using the
>>>> desktops contextual menu, though that menu might have options that impact
>>>> the browser.
>>> 
>>> The browser is presenting you, the user, with a view on the System Print
>>> Dialog, something external to the browser.
> 
>> External in that it is tied to a system service, sure... but still very much
>> tied to the browser. Here:
> 
>> <http://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>

You show no signs of understanding what is shown here. Can you at least TRY
to show you understand?

>> If you really want to know more about this, look here:
> 
>> <https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Prin
>> ting/Printing.pdf> OR <https://goo.gl/dDqfcp>
>>     -----
>>     At a Glance 
>>     Most Cocoa apps provide printing support in one form or another.
>>     When you create a Cocoa app, the Print command is automatically
>>     provided in the File menu. It¹s straightforward for apps to
>>     implement printing.
>>     ...
>>     Printing on the Mac is not only easy for the user, but the modern
>>     API provided by OS X is easy for you to use in your app.
>>     -----
> 
>> It goes into far more detail than I care to know right now about where the
>> line is drawn as to what controls what, but clearly the program is calling
>> the printing tools and those tools are "subservient" to the program.
> 
> It is an interface to the printing subsystem.  The application communicates
> with that subsystem for print job.  The application does not do that job
> itself, nor any of the other hundreds of other things you listed as optional
> add-ons to that interface, such as email, pdf conversion, or chat.  The
> app does not even create the interface, unless its designers wanted something
> custom, as is the case with the default Chrome print dialog.

Not in contention... not relevant.

> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Printin
> g/osxp_printingapi/osxp_printingapi.html
> 
> <quote>
> NSPrintPanel Creates and Displays the Print Panel
> 
> This class manages the standard system Print panel. Your app does not
> need to create an NSPrintPanel object unless you want to manage the
> printing workflow yourself or add custom print settings for your app
> (using an accessory view).
> </quote>

And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is as
much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?





[1] Or print dialog called from and graphically tied to the browser...
however you want to word it

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#318341

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 16:32 +0000
Message-ID<fand93.a9p@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318289
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"

> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is as
> much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?

It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.

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#318356

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 10:00 -0700
Message-ID<D20B27C4.598BB%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318341
On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 8/31/15, 8:10 PM, in article fadmvnc93.kdjfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>> It is not "the browser's print dialog."  It is the System Print Dialog.
>>> 
>>>> The browser is using the system dialog... the browser is not using the
>>>> desktops contextual menu, though that menu might have options that impact
>>>> the browser.
>>> 
>>> The browser is presenting you, the user, with a view on the System Print
>>> Dialog, something external to the browser.
> 
>> External in that it is tied to a system service, sure... but still very much
>> tied to the browser. Here:
> 
>> <http://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>

You show no signs of understanding what is shown here. Can you at least TRY
to show you understand?

...
Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is as much a part
of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?





[1] Or print dialog called from and graphically tied to the browser...
however you want to word it

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* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
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#318358

Fromvallor <vallor@cultnix.org>
Date2015-09-01 17:10 +0000
Message-ID<55e5dc1d$0$64284$c3e8da3$b280bf18@news.astraweb.com>
In reply to#318341
On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> 
>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
> 
> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.

You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?

-- 
 -v

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#318372

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 17:30 +0000
Message-ID<3af9.fjdso@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318358
vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> 
>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>> 
>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.

> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?

OK, but now how do I get this off my shoe?

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#318376

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 10:40 -0700
Message-ID<D20B311E.598EE%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318372
On 9/1/15, 10:30 AM, in article 3af9.fjdso@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:
> 
>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> 
>>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>>>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>>> 
>>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.
> 
>> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?
> 
> OK, but now how do I get this off my shoe?

Why not just admit that your solution of replicating "PDF Services" is a
rather bizarre hack where you had to right click on the desktop and not work
within the standard workflow of the program?

You know: be honest.

At this point you have engaged in great advocacy for Linux - better than any
I have seen from anyone else in COLA. Ever. I commend you for it.

But you got to the limits of what you could get Linux to do and then started
getting rather nasty. So be it.


-- 
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* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318474

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 22:16 +0000
Message-ID<fadmnv83.adjo@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318376
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 10:30 AM, in article 3af9.fjdso@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:
>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>> 
>>>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>>>>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>>>> 
>>>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.
>> 
>>> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?
>> 
>> OK, but now how do I get this off my shoe?

> Why not just admit that your solution of replicating "PDF Services" is a
> rather bizarre hack where you had to right click on the desktop and not work
> within the standard workflow of the program?

> You know: be honest.

> At this point you have engaged in great advocacy for Linux - better than any
> I have seen from anyone else in COLA. Ever. I commend you for it.

> But you got to the limits of what you could get Linux to do and then started
> getting rather nasty. So be it.

https://vid.me/OGi4

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#318480

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2015-09-01 15:41 -0700
Message-ID<D20B77C1.599B7%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
In reply to#318474
On 9/1/15, 3:16 PM, in article fadmnv83.adjo@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 9/1/15, 10:30 AM, in article 3af9.fjdso@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>> 
>>>>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>>>>>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.
>>> 
>>>> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?
>>> 
>>> OK, but now how do I get this off my shoe?
> 
>> Why not just admit that your solution of replicating "PDF Services" is a
>> rather bizarre hack where you had to right click on the desktop and not work
>> within the standard workflow of the program?
> 
>> You know: be honest.
> 
>> At this point you have engaged in great advocacy for Linux - better than any
>> I have seen from anyone else in COLA. Ever. I commend you for it.
> 
>> But you got to the limits of what you could get Linux to do and then started
>> getting rather nasty. So be it.
> 
> https://vid.me/OGi4
> 
I assume a universal hot key to print to recipes?


-- 
* OS X / Linux: What is a file?     <http://youtu.be/_dMbXGLW9PI>
* Mint MATE Trash, Panel, Menu:     <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE>
* Mint KDE working with folders:    <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0>
* Mint KDE creating files:          <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8>
* Mint KDE help:                    <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8>
* Mint KDE general navigation:      <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI>
* Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs?     <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA>
* Easy on OS X / Hard on Linux:     <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
* OS / Word Processor Comparison:   <http://youtu.be/w6Qcl-w7s5c>

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#318487

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2015-09-01 22:53 +0000
Message-ID<fsmdnbv83.jdfi@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#318480
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/15, 3:16 PM, in article fadmnv83.adjo@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/1/15, 10:30 AM, in article 3af9.fjdso@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>>> vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 01 Sep 2015 16:32:50 +0000, owl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is
>>>>>>> as much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's not "the browser's print dialog."  It's the System Print Dialog.
>>>> 
>>>>> You are correct, but he'll never admit that.  Time to move on?
>>>> 
>>>> OK, but now how do I get this off my shoe?
>> 
>>> Why not just admit that your solution of replicating "PDF Services" is a
>>> rather bizarre hack where you had to right click on the desktop and not work
>>> within the standard workflow of the program?
>> 
>>> You know: be honest.
>> 
>>> At this point you have engaged in great advocacy for Linux - better than any
>>> I have seen from anyone else in COLA. Ever. I commend you for it.
>> 
>>> But you got to the limits of what you could get Linux to do and then started
>>> getting rather nasty. So be it.
>> 
>> https://vid.me/OGi4
>> 
> I assume a universal hot key to print to recipes?

Magic.

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