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Re: Just click "like"

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Just click "like"
Date 2015-08-31 21:45 -0700
Message-ID <D20A7B8E.59853%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (8 earlier) <fsnmvjd93.a38@rooftop.invalid> <D20A59B9.5982B%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <fadmvnc93.kdjfi@rooftop.invalid> <D20A6B08.5983A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid>

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On 8/31/15, 9:11 PM, in article se03af.f04ae@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
<owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 8/31/15, 8:10 PM, in article fadmvnc93.kdjfi@rooftop.invalid, "owl"
>> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>>>>> It is not "the browser's print dialog."  It is the System Print Dialog.
>>> 
>>>> The browser is using the system dialog... the browser is not using the
>>>> desktops contextual menu, though that menu might have options that impact
>>>> the browser.
>>> 
>>> The browser is presenting you, the user, with a view on the System Print
>>> Dialog, something external to the browser.
> 
>> External in that it is tied to a system service, sure... but still very much
>> tied to the browser. Here:
> 
>> <http://youtu.be/aSNpnYpmKag>

You show no signs of understanding what is shown here. Can you at least TRY
to show you understand?

>> If you really want to know more about this, look here:
> 
>> <https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Prin
>> ting/Printing.pdf> OR <https://goo.gl/dDqfcp>
>>     -----
>>     At a Glance 
>>     Most Cocoa apps provide printing support in one form or another.
>>     When you create a Cocoa app, the Print command is automatically
>>     provided in the File menu. It¹s straightforward for apps to
>>     implement printing.
>>     ...
>>     Printing on the Mac is not only easy for the user, but the modern
>>     API provided by OS X is easy for you to use in your app.
>>     -----
> 
>> It goes into far more detail than I care to know right now about where the
>> line is drawn as to what controls what, but clearly the program is calling
>> the printing tools and those tools are "subservient" to the program.
> 
> It is an interface to the printing subsystem.  The application communicates
> with that subsystem for print job.  The application does not do that job
> itself, nor any of the other hundreds of other things you listed as optional
> add-ons to that interface, such as email, pdf conversion, or chat.  The
> app does not even create the interface, unless its designers wanted something
> custom, as is the case with the default Chrome print dialog.

Not in contention... not relevant.

> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/Printin
> g/osxp_printingapi/osxp_printingapi.html
> 
> <quote>
> NSPrintPanel Creates and Displays the Print Panel
> 
> This class manages the standard system Print panel. Your app does not
> need to create an NSPrintPanel object unless you want to manage the
> printing workflow yourself or add custom print settings for your app
> (using an accessory view).
> </quote>

And...??? Are you still playing games where pretend that the desktop is as
much a part of a browser as the browser's print dialog [1]?





[1] Or print dialog called from and graphically tied to the browser...
however you want to word it

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Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-29 14:33 -0500
  Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 21:12 +0000
    Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 14:23 -0700
      Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-29 23:20 +0000
        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 16:36 -0700
          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:37 +0000
            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:43 -0700
              Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 01:23 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 01:36 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:58 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:53 -0700
            Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-30 01:18 +0000
              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:17 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 03:53 -0500
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 10:58 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2015-08-30 13:44 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 21:03 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:38 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:00 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 15:15 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 22:43 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 17:33 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 03:25 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 21:06 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:11 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:18 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:35 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:37 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 05:50 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 22:55 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 06:18 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 23:39 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 07:15 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 00:20 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 12:42 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 09:25 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 20:55 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 14:04 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-31 21:56 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 16:45 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 01:51 +0200
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:07 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 00:34 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:55 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 01:10 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 18:25 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 02:11 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 19:21 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 03:10 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 20:35 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 04:11 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 21:45 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 16:32 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:00 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 17:10 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 17:30 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:40 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:16 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:41 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:53 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:12 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:19 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:28 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:39 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:56 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:11 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:57 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:42 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:47 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:58 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:13 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:17 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:23 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:09 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 21:50 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:16 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 10:38 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 20:46 +0200
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 12:13 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-01 21:43 +0200
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 13:42 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" ronb <ronbNOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 22:01 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:07 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:08 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-09-01 23:14 +0100
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:42 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:14 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 15:35 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 22:43 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-01 22:46 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:14 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:30 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:36 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 00:49 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 17:59 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 01:16 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:14 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 21:53 -0700
                Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 10:18 +0200
                Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:07 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 14:31 +0200
                Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 14:41 +0200
                Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails completely Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-09-02 16:13 +0200
                Re: Just click "like" and Snit Michael Glasser fails JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-09-03 11:37 -0500
                Re: Just click "like" vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-09-02 08:08 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-02 05:03 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:21 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-09-01 16:09 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 23:15 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 04:36 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-02 05:25 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 00:21 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 17:46 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-09-01 01:04 +0000
                Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 18:17 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-08-30 21:49 -0500
              Re: Just click "like" chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-31 07:35 -0500
        Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-30 15:21 -0600
          Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-30 14:39 -0700
            Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-08-31 13:32 -0600
              Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-31 12:49 -0700
                Re: Just click "like" GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-09-01 11:38 -0600
      Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:35 +0000
        Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 17:46 -0700
          Re: Just click "like" owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2015-08-30 00:56 +0000
            Re: Just click "like" Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-29 19:16 -0700
  Re: Just click "like" John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-29 14:29 -0700

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