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| Started by | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| First post | 2018-09-26 17:46 +0000 |
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For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-26 17:46 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 19:14 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 17:37 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 18:50 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 17:20 -0700
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-26 23:16 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-26 16:20 -0700
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 19:24 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-26 23:36 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 19:58 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-27 00:10 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 20:53 -0400
No automatic updates, Windows 10. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-09-27 04:51 -0700
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:59 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:40 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 21:53 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 07:15 -0500
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:54 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 21:02 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 15:39 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-27 12:20 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:51 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:00 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-28 07:09 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:49 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 21:59 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-28 07:08 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 16:17 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:10 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:38 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 19:45 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:58 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-28 07:11 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 12:28 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 07:56 -0500
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 14:56 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 10:40 -0500
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 15:52 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 15:25 -0500
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 21:05 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:08 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-30 07:22 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 20:48 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-01 14:58 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 19:31 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-01 19:03 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 01:53 -0700
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-01 07:49 -0500
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-01 13:44 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 07:06 -0700
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-01 14:53 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-01 07:45 -0500
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 09:12 -0700
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:29 -0700
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-01 18:33 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:24 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 15:28 -0500
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 22:06 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 16:18 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:16 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 20:59 -0400
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 15:37 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 15:41 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 16:00 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 17:01 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 21:49 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-28 02:03 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:57 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-27 13:15 -0700
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:06 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:14 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 16:40 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:54 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:04 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:10 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:33 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 16:36 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-27 12:28 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 15:35 +0000
Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-27 12:00 -0400
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 21:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <b80a0gage.3@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #469322 |
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > owl wrote: > >>I'm heartened to see you agree that their agenda is ridiculous and >>unreasonable. > > I did no such thing, obviously. > You snipped it, so I guess we'll never know. >>If their goal is fair representation, then why would 50% female *not* be >>the target? > > Because that wouldn't be fair. > What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. Compete on quality of work, not membership in some "oppressed" group. > So, the claim that "They believe that there needs to be 50% females in > tech projects, with an equal mix of races" is not true. Thanks for > confirming. > So you do have assburgers.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 22:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pom8p2$sod$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #469324 |
On 2018-09-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> owl wrote: >> >>>I'm heartened to see you agree that their agenda is ridiculous and >>>unreasonable. >> >> I did no such thing, obviously. >> > > You snipped it, so I guess we'll never know. > > >>>If their goal is fair representation, then why would 50% female *not* be >>>the target? >> >> Because that wouldn't be fair. >> > > What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very > fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. Compete > on quality of work, not membership in some "oppressed" group. Exactly. Isn't it the heigth of patronising sexism to give a woman the job simply because she's a woman? Shouldn't she WANT to earn it on merit? >> So, the claim that "They believe that there needs to be 50% females in >> tech projects, with an equal mix of races" is not true. Thanks for >> confirming. >> > > So you do have assburgers. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2018-09-30 07:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <poqcrk$uor$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #469338 |
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > On 2018-09-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very >> fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. Compete >> on quality of work, not membership in some "oppressed" group. > > Exactly. Isn't it the heigth of patronising sexism to give a woman the job > simply because she's a woman? Shouldn't she WANT to earn it on merit? One issue with women programmers is that their male counterparts of often childish, demeaning, and intimidating, pushing them out for reasons unrelated to competence. Mot a big fan of quotas. My preference is to build a collegial team. -- You have a strong appeal for members of the opposite sex.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-30 20:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <porcqq$ec3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #469507 |
On 2018-09-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> On 2018-09-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> >>> What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very >>> fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. Compete >>> on quality of work, not membership in some "oppressed" group. >> >> Exactly. Isn't it the heigth of patronising sexism to give a woman the job >> simply because she's a woman? Shouldn't she WANT to earn it on merit? > > One issue with women programmers is that their male counterparts > of often childish, demeaning, and intimidating, pushing them out for reasons > unrelated to competence. And you know this ... how? I guess I've always been in a different situation than you. Where I've worked, if women knew their stuff they commanded respect just like the men. Of course that was a few years back before becoming a "victim" became a career path. > Mot a big fan of quotas. My preference is to build a collegial team. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 14:58 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <potruu$7dl$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #469575 |
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > On 2018-09-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> On 2018-09-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>> >>>> What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very >>>> fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. Compete >>>> on quality of work, not membership in some "oppressed" group. >>> >>> Exactly. Isn't it the heigth of patronising sexism to give a woman the job >>> simply because she's a woman? Shouldn't she WANT to earn it on merit? >> >> One issue with women programmers is that their male counterparts >> of often childish, demeaning, and intimidating, pushing them out for reasons >> unrelated to competence. > > And you know this ... how? I guess I've always been in a different situation > than you. Where I've worked, if women knew their stuff they commanded > respect just like the men. Depends on management. I've worked with a few guys who were assholes, but management kept them under control... except for one asshole who was actively belligerent and belittling, and way too big for his britches (he thought way too much of himself). Management got him to tone down the yelling, but still let him do whatever he wanted, including dismissing the need for testing and source-code control. Worse than dealing with Rainman. > Of course that was a few years back before becoming a "victim" became a > career path. > >> Mot a big fan of quotas. My preference is to build a collegial team. > > -- > The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux. -- Q: Why don't lawyers go to the beach? A: The cats keep trying to bury them.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 19:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <potsmb$84r$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #469844 |
On 2018-10-01, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: > RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > >> On 2018-09-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >>> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>> >>>> On 2018-09-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very >>>>> fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. Compete >>>>> on quality of work, not membership in some "oppressed" group. >>>> >>>> Exactly. Isn't it the heigth of patronising sexism to give a woman the job >>>> simply because she's a woman? Shouldn't she WANT to earn it on merit? >>> >>> One issue with women programmers is that their male counterparts >>> of often childish, demeaning, and intimidating, pushing them out for reasons >>> unrelated to competence. >> >> And you know this ... how? I guess I've always been in a different situation >> than you. Where I've worked, if women knew their stuff they commanded >> respect just like the men. > > Depends on management. I've worked with a few guys who were assholes, but > management kept them under control... except for one asshole who was > actively belligerent and belittling, and way too big for his britches (he > thought way too much of himself). Management got him to tone down the > yelling, but still let him do whatever he wanted, including dismissing the > need for testing and source-code control. Worse than dealing with Rainman. But I'm guessing this guy was an asshole to the men as well as to the women. I think one of the biggest problems we have in modern companies and corporations is gutless managers. I used to get so sick of being called into a meeting because one person (not me) would continually do something wrong and, instead of calling that person out and bringing him/her into his office, the gutless wonder manager would call a meeting to discuss "issues." That's not the way you manage. If someone is not doing their job, call them into your office, ask them what their major malfunction is and tell them to straighten out or find other work. Simple. Direct. Doesn't waste the time of every other employee who IS dong their job. It also "clears the air." A lot of times that employee WILL straighten out after one of these one-on-one meetings. >> Of course that was a few years back before becoming a "victim" became a >> career path. >> >>> Mot a big fan of quotas. My preference is to build a collegial team. >> >> -- >> The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux. > > -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 19:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <pouaau$2qs$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #469850 |
RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > On 2018-10-01, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> On 2018-09-30, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >>>> RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>>> >>>>> On 2018-09-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very >>>>>> fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. Compete >>>>>> on quality of work, not membership in some "oppressed" group. >>>>> >>>>> Exactly. Isn't it the heigth of patronising sexism to give a woman the job >>>>> simply because she's a woman? Shouldn't she WANT to earn it on merit? >>>> >>>> One issue with women programmers is that their male counterparts >>>> of often childish, demeaning, and intimidating, pushing them out for reasons >>>> unrelated to competence. >>> >>> And you know this ... how? I guess I've always been in a different situation >>> than you. Where I've worked, if women knew their stuff they commanded >>> respect just like the men. >> >> Depends on management. I've worked with a few guys who were assholes, but >> management kept them under control... except for one asshole who was >> actively belligerent and belittling, and way too big for his britches (he >> thought way too much of himself). Management got him to tone down the >> yelling, but still let him do whatever he wanted, including dismissing the >> need for testing and source-code control. Worse than dealing with Rainman. > > But I'm guessing this guy was an asshole to the men as well as to the women. Nah, this was a solo thing, basically a one-man "team" who resented someone else with knowledge intruding on his bailiwick. He didn't deal out his nastiness based on gender... he would get testy with anyone who suggested that he fix an issue or, heaven forbid, make his code more robust. For example, rather than provide a library with an input-sanitizing module, he would haughtily instruct (along with his "manager") user's to avoid "special character". Ye gods! Asshole. > I think one of the biggest problems we have in modern companies and > corporations is gutless managers. I used to get so sick of being called into > a meeting because one person (not me) would continually do something wrong > and, instead of calling that person out and bringing him/her into his > office, the gutless wonder manager would call a meeting to discuss "issues." > That's not the way you manage. If someone is not doing their job, call them > into your office, ask them what their major malfunction is and tell them to > straighten out or find other work. Simple. Direct. Doesn't waste the time of > every other employee who IS dong their job. It also "clears the air." A lot > of times that employee WILL straighten out after one of these one-on-one > meetings. Yeah, but some people, for whatever stupid reason, have the "manager" wrapped around their finger. -- Must I hold a candle to my shames? -- William Shakespeare, "The Merchant of Venice"
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 01:53 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <16715407-6a96-4a6f-a71e-0b9b7dde3d20@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #469507 |
On Sunday, September 30, 2018 at 4:42:46 AM UTC-7, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > RonB wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > > > On 2018-09-28, owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > > > >> What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very > >> fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. Compete > >> on quality of work, not membership in some "oppressed" group. > > > > Exactly. Isn't it the heigth of patronising sexism to give a woman the job > > simply because she's a woman? Shouldn't she WANT to earn it on merit? > > One issue with women programmers is that their male counterparts > of often childish, demeaning, and intimidating, pushing them out for reasons > unrelated to competence. > > Mot a big fan of quotas. My preference is to build a collegial team. > > -- > You have a strong appeal for members of the opposite sex. Other than Ronb, who fails to understand what Klaus Schadenfreude is doing? What do you get out of lying, Ronb? What does it take to end this? Too much glue for you, gluehead. Lying sack of shit AKA Ronb does it every time. Then the deluge begins. Because the mama's boy just has to run to other groups to get the attention he's not getting here. Translation of Ronb speak: His unbelievable "troubleshooting prowess" side tracked him from an add-on he wants that can be quickly Googled for this application. The only thing broken here is Ronb. Ronb would have to be suffering from mental illness to be unsure of if he "once had" designed a program with Klaus Schadenfreude. Sound like anyone in here? When a guy can't keep his lies straight and makes use of fictional, self-esteem protecting bunk later, it's acutely obvious what his trolling is. Ronb suffers from waking drug trips so, to him, everything, even responses to his idiocy, are "aggressive". Who does not know this? -- I Left My Husband & Daughter At Home And THIS happened https://youtu.be/HHT9SJgYsH4 Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 07:49 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <9s54rdh17kmq2d5a1apmn3ksuvoi27ffbi@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #469507 |
Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >Mot a big fan of quotas. My preference is to build a collegial team. Don't you need to have a beard, to be a Linux programmer? -- "There are loads of fat smelly basement dwellers with greasy hair and pizza crumbed beards who use dumpster HW in the Linux community." - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 13:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pxpsD.31105$X82.10837@fx22.iad> |
| In reply to | #469733 |
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 07:49:12 -0500, chrisv wrote: > Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>Mot a big fan of quotas. My preference is to build a collegial team. > > Don't you need to have a beard, to be a Linux programmer? I think the beard is optional but the heavy body odour isn't. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Christian
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 07:06 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a5e6738e-f058-4ddb-990d-7a87c3c560d3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #469733 |
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 5:49:14 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote: > Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > > >Mot a big fan of quotas. My preference is to build a collegial team. > > Don't you need to have a beard, to be a Linux programmer? > > -- > "There are loads of fat smelly basement dwellers with greasy hair and > pizza crumbed beards who use dumpster HW in the Linux community." - > "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark What do you get out of lying, John Gohde? The Mack has better media tools. John Gohde will never live that down. John Gohde wants to punish everyone here: If John Gohde can't get attention here then nobody will. How John Gohde figures out when to use the absurd flood script to best emulate the style of Klaus Schadenfreude's posts http://usenet.sandman.net/misc/snit_flood. After kill filtering all the socks from John Gohde, it is principally just two flooders producing 95% of the onslaught. It is blatant. And both entirely obsessive nut cases. John Gohde failed to give an example of a large corporation that has acquired its fortune by not giving a damn about its clients or wares. Can you get less dishonest? Don't get too bigheaded, John Gohde, sometimes "your socks" are just that. -- Live on Kickstarter http://www.macadvocacy.pw/2005/Nov/09/236626.html http://www.5z8.info/hackwebcam_e9z2tw_friendster-of-sex Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 14:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <potrlb$7dl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #469733 |
chrisv wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: > Chris Ahlstrom wrote: > >>Mot a big fan of quotas. My preference is to build a collegial team. > > Don't you need to have a beard, to be a Linux programmer? LOL > -- > "There are loads of fat smelly basement dwellers with greasy hair and > pizza crumbed beards who use dumpster HW in the Linux community." - > "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark -- You will be called upon to help a friend in trouble.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 07:45 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1e54rd5viuhh97u376u52kppbouk623dt7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #469324 |
owl wrote: >What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very >fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. Who said that there should be a quota? Lot's of hearsay, in here... >Compete on quality of work, not membership in some "oppressed" group. I agree, and find it difficult to believe that there is significant discrimination, in the FOSS world. It ain't no country club. -- "It is better that there only be one supplier who really is the best so that everyone can have the best choice!" - Rat
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| From | fr314159@gmail.com |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 09:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <14cb613d-fbca-4f72-8e23-6c80c3c89aec@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #469729 |
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:45:28 AM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > owl wrote: > > >What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very > >fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. > > Who said that there should be a quota? > One has to use the tactics of the Left against the Left. The Left claims that gender identity is completely up to the individual. That is, if a man/woman believes that he/she is a woman/man then that person actually *is* a woman/man. Therefore, half of the male Linux developers just have to declare that they are female and POOF! the problem is solved.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 09:29 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <3f4e2eee-d586-436d-84eb-651b7fbd9a18@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #469773 |
On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 10:12:17 AM UTC-6, fr31...@gmail.com wrote: > On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:45:28 AM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > > > owl wrote: > > > > >What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very > > >fact that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. > > > > Who said that there should be a quota? > > > > One has to use the tactics of the Left against the Left. > > The Left claims that gender identity is completely up to > the individual. That is, if a man/woman believes that he/she > is a woman/man then that person actually *is* a woman/man. > > Therefore, half of the male Linux developers just have to declare > that they are female and POOF! the problem is solved. LOL!
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-10-01 18:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <MLtsD.122911$wV2.84047@fx01.iad> |
| In reply to | #469773 |
On Mon, 01 Oct 2018 09:12:14 -0700, fr314159 wrote: > On Monday, October 1, 2018 at 8:45:28 AM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > >> owl wrote: >> >> >What percentage would be fair? Whatever the percentage, the very fact >> >that there should be a quota at all is ridiculous. >> >> Who said that there should be a quota? >> >> > One has to use the tactics of the Left against the Left. > > The Left claims that gender identity is completely up to the individual. > That is, if a man/woman believes that he/she is a woman/man then that > person actually *is* a woman/man. > > Therefore, half of the male Linux developers just have to declare that > they are female and POOF! the problem is solved. As stupid as the suggestion is, it's right up the social justice clowns' alley. No need to chop off your toy, boys, just tell 'em you identify as a lady. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Christian
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 18:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <MlurD.36504$mJ1.3649@fx24.iad> |
| In reply to | #469233 |
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 12:28:25 +0000, owl wrote: > Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote: >> SilverSlimer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >> >>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:45:18 -0400, DFS wrote: >>> >>>> On 9/26/2018 1:46 PM, SilverSlimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti- >>>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2> >>>>> >>>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be >>>>> fixed? >>>> >>>> >>>> Imminent return to Windows is imminent... >>> >>> If GNU/Linux's main developers start insisted that we refer to them as >>> "ze" or "zir," most likely. >>> >>> I'll wait and see what this social justice warrior takeover ends up >>> becoming. >> >> Who cares? The code is what counts. >> >> > These sorts of SJW Nazi tactics should not go unaddressed because the > potential for real damage is too great. > > https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/80bavi/ the_story_behind_freebsds_new_code_of_conduct/ > <quote> > They believe that there needs to be 50% females in tech projects, > with an equal mix of races, or else there's evil systemic oppression, > and it's a white-boys' club where they enjoy unfair privileges of power > while others suffer. > > ... > > The old code of conduct said that "FreeBSD is a meritocracy", but Benno > said that's wrong, because he believes that the system is rigged against > minorities, so we can't judge based on merit since they're at a > disadvantage. > > He said that FreeBSD has a lot of white males, and not many females or > people of color, and the safe space is for them to feel better about > participating, because the goal is diversity, not merit and value from > your code. > </quote> The suggestion that there should be a quota of 50% female code is so ridiculous that you just want to bash someone's head with a mallet for introducing it. If they are better, use their code; if they're not, delete it. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 15:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2k3tqdlfe7jhfsp2is07uer151b2hacb6i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #469302 |
SilverSlimer wrote: >The suggestion that there should be a quota of 50% female code is so >ridiculous I still have seen no evidence of anyone suggestion any such thing. Someone claiming "they believe" is what is called "hearsay". IWO, made-up nonsense. -- "It's called demonization of those that don't wear the same clothes they wear." - some POS that calls itself "GreyCloud", lying shamelessly
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <pom8j7$sod$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #469323 |
On 2018-09-28, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >>The suggestion that there should be a quota of 50% female code is so >>ridiculous > > I still have seen no evidence of anyone suggestion any such thing. > Someone claiming "they believe" is what is called "hearsay". IWO, > made-up nonsense. I've got a feeling that the Linux community is going to be heard to rein in. -- The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-09-28 22:06 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <JBxrD.123219$LK2.45633@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #469323 |
On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 15:28:50 -0500, chrisv wrote: > SilverSlimer wrote: > >>The suggestion that there should be a quota of 50% female code is so >>ridiculous > > I still have seen no evidence of anyone suggestion any such thing. > Someone claiming "they believe" is what is called "hearsay". IWO, > made-up nonsense. I fully expect that it's a matter of time though. Once the LGBT gets its paws on something, full-scale destruction is always the next step. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Catholic
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