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Re: slrn is trembling

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  Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 10:08 -0400
    Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:51 -0700
      Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 13:50 -0400
        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 11:59 -0700
          Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 21:23 -0400
            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:12 -0700
              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:21 -0700
            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:55 -0700
              Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-05 13:51 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:16 -0700
            "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-14 01:41 -0700
              Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 11:16 -0400
                Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 08:38 -0700
                Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 16:40 +0100
                  Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 11:43 -0400
                    Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 17:12 +0100
                      Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 12:23 -0400
                        Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Wader of Doom) - 2018-10-14 18:01 +0100
                    No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-14 14:29 -0700
                      Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 17:33 -0400
                        Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 22:47 +0100
                          Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 17:53 -0400
                            Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 22:58 +0100
                          Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 14:56 -0700
                      Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 14:41 -0700
                  Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 08:54 -0700
              Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-14 11:26 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 09:23 -0700
                  Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-14 18:53 +0000
                    Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 13:27 -0700
                      Re: slrn is trembling Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-10-14 20:55 +0000
                Pipelining "Article" commands. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-10-14 14:23 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-15 13:49 +0000
                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 07:34 -0700
                  Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-15 21:54 -0400
                    Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 19:15 -0700
                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 21:51 -0700
                    Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-16 03:16 +0000
                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 20:33 -0700
                      Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-16 10:26 -0400
                        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 07:44 -0700
                        Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-16 15:17 +0000
                          Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-16 12:26 -0400
                            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 09:46 -0700
                              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 10:21 -0700
                              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 14:00 -0700
                            Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-16 16:49 +0000
        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 12:35 -0700
        Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-04 20:44 +0000
          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:09 -0700
          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:50 -0700
            Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-04 22:32 +0000
              Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-04 23:03 +0000
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 16:28 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 16:54 -0700
                  Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:02 +0000
                    Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:20 -0700
                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:31 -0700
                      Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:32 +0000
                        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:41 -0700
                          Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:54 +0000
                            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:02 -0700
                            Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 01:07 +0000
                              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:11 -0700
                                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:48 -0700
                                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 02:06 +0000
                                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:01 -0700
                                    Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 15:35 +0000
                                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:37 -0700
                                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:53 -0700
                                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:57 -0700
                                        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:17 -0700
                                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:19 -0700
                                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:41 -0700
                                        Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 16:19 +0000
                                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:23 -0700
                                            Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 16:40 +0000
                                            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:41 -0700
                                              Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 17:39 +0000
                                                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:07 -0700
                                                  Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 18:14 +0000
                                                    Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:41 -0700
                                                      Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 18:52 +0000
                                                        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 08:46 -0700
                                                    Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 11:29 -0700
                                                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 11:48 -0700
                                                        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 11:51 -0700
                                                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 12:19 -0700
                                                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 15:34 -0700
                                                            Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-08 21:27 +0000
                                                              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 17:49 -0700
                                                                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 18:13 -0700
                                                                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:31 -0700
                                                                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-09 13:45 +0000
                                                                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:55 -0700
                                                                    Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-09 15:55 +0000
                                                                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:20 -0700
                                                                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:39 -0700
                                                                        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:41 -0700
                                                                        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 10:23 -0700
                                                                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 23:38 -0700
                                                                        Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-09 17:47 +0000
                                                                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 11:09 -0700
                                                                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:04 -0700
                                                                            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 13:56 -0700
                                                                              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 05:02 -0700
                                                                      Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-10 10:33 -0400
                                                                        Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:21 +0000
                                                                          Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-12 20:46 -0400
                                                                            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 23:50 -0700
                                                            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 18:44 -0700
                                                        Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 14:08 -0700
                                                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:32 -0700
                    Re: slrn is trembling "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-05 00:32 +0000
                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:46 -0700
                      Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:55 +0000
                      Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 01:17 +0000
                    Re: slrn is trembling chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-05 06:59 -0500
                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 05:14 -0700
                      Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 12:48 +0000
                        Re: slrn is trembling chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-05 11:17 -0500
                          Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-05 13:35 -0400
                          Re: slrn is trembling Silicon Vee <siliconvee1945@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 01:36 +0200
                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:07 -0700
                    Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:12 +0000
                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:21 -0700
                        Re: slrn is trembling SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-05 12:01 +0000
                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 05:30 -0700
                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:13 -0700
                          Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-05 12:50 -0400
                            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 10:35 -0700
                              Re: slrn is trembling chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-10 08:51 -0500
                                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:09 -0700
                            Re: slrn is trembling Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-10-05 16:43 -0400
                              Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-10 10:34 -0400
                                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:56 -0700
                                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 12:38 -0700
                                    Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 02:12 -0700
                                Re: slrn is trembling Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-12 12:27 -0700
                                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:42 -0700
                                    Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 21:47 -0700
                                      Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 03:28 -0700
                                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 20:45 -0700
                          Re: slrn is trembling Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-05 15:15 -0700
                            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 15:41 -0700
                            Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 19:21 -0700
                        Re: slrn is trembling Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-05 13:44 -0700
                          Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 17:48 -0700
                    Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:15 -0700
              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 16:13 -0700
          Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 20:47 -0400
            Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 01:09 +0000
              Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:18 -0700
              Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 21:38 -0400
                Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:04 -0700
                Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 02:05 +0000
                  Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:35 -0700
                  Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-10 10:36 -0400

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#472318

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-16 07:44 -0700
Message-ID<77edc67c-b1e9-4781-924c-2ac53da40331@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472316
On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 7:26:12 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On 10/15/2018 11:16 PM, owl wrote:
> > DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> On 10/15/2018 9:49 AM, owl wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> See what kind of speed you get with this (redirect it to a file):
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>> #!/usr/bin/python
> >>> import socket
> >>>
> >>> # fill all these vars in:
> >>> SERVER=''
> >>> PORT=
> >>> USER=''
> >>> PASS=''
> >>> GROUP=''
> >>> FIRST=
> >>> LAST=
> >>>
> >>> s=socket.socket(socket.AF_INET,socket.SOCK_STREAM)
> >>> s.connect((SERVER,PORT))
> >>> s.settimeout(1)
> >>> s.send("authinfo user " + USER + "\r\n")
> >>> s.send("authinfo pass " + PASS + "\r\n")
> >>> s.send("group " + GROUP + "\n")
> >>> for x in range(FIRST,LAST,1):
> >>>     s.send("article %d\r\n" % x)
> >>> while 1:
> >>>      data=s.recv(512)
> >>>      if not data: break
> >>>      print data
> >>> s.close()
> >>> ------------------------------
> >>
> >>
> >> Writes 15-25 or so full articles to a file, then writes
> >> 430 No Such Article
> >> for the rest.
> >>
> > 
> > Are you sure the article numbers in the range you provided
> > are actually available? 
> 
> duh on my part.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >> Of those it writes, there's a blank line between each line of the post.
> >>
> > 
> > For me, it properly writes the '.' article separator.
> 
> I get all the data, including the article separator, but when writing it 
> to a file there's a blank line written between each line of data.
> 
> When printing to screen it's fine.
> 
> 
> 
> #write all data to one file
> for x in range(FIRST,LAST):
> 	s.send("article %d\r\n" % x)
> with open("D:\\article_socket.txt", "w") as f:
> 	while 1:
> 		data=s.recv(512)
> 		if not data: break
> 		f.write(data)
> 
> 
> ~20 seconds for 1000 articles
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >> Throws error at the end:
> >> socket.timeout: timed out
> >>
> > 
> > That's not an error.  You have to have a timeout to break out
> > of the socket or it will sit and wait for input that never
> > comes.
> > 
> >> Takes ~4 seconds for 100 requests.
> >>
> >> I assume you get better results.
> > 
> > anon@lowtide:~/usenet$ time ./dah.py >pyout
> > Traceback (most recent call last):
> >    File "./dah.py", line 19, in <module>
> >      data=s.recv(512)
> > socket.timeout: timed out
> > 
> > real    0m17.383s
> > user    0m0.348s
> > sys     0m0.472s
> > anon@lowtide:~/usenet$ grep ^220 pyout |wc -l
> > 4966
> > anon@lowtide:~/usenet$
> 
> 
> 
> 5K in 17 seconds is about 5x faster than what I'm getting.  I use 
> blocknews server, and python on Windows.



Sadly this is what happens when seriously poor self esteem takes over Klaus Schadenfreude's life. It was Klaus Schadenfreude who was openly asking how better to post his scams. Already moved on from that. Keep up! His wish is to see Desk Rabbit annoyed by idiotic lying. And hey, that could work. 

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#472323

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-10-16 15:17 +0000
Message-ID<uz8b083ga.ay@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#472316
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 10/15/2018 11:16 PM, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 10/15/2018 9:49 AM, owl wrote:
>>>
>>>
...
>
>
>>> Of those it writes, there's a blank line between each line of the post.
>>>
>>
>> For me, it properly writes the '.' article separator.
>
> I get all the data, including the article separator, but when writing it
> to a file there's a blank line written between each line of data.
>
> When printing to screen it's fine.
>
>
>
> #write all data to one file
> for x in range(FIRST,LAST):
>        s.send("article %d\r\n" % x)
> with open("D:\\article_socket.txt", "w") as f:
>        while 1:
>                data=s.recv(512)
>                if not data: break
>                f.write(data)
>
>
> ~20 seconds for 1000 articles
>

If you're actually still getting the '.' marker in the file, but
extra blank lines are being added, this may or may not be related:

https://sopython.com/canon/97/writing-csv-adds-blank-lines-between-rows/

So try adding 'wb' to the open() call.

But that open() should not even be necessary anyway.  I just use '>'
redirection operator to write to a file.  That will work in windows too.

./dah.py >outfile

or (without bash shebang):

python dah.py >outfile

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#472339

FromDFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date2018-10-16 12:26 -0400
Message-ID<ijoxD.495682$YL3.47569@fx48.iad>
In reply to#472323
On 10/16/2018 11:17 AM, owl wrote:

> If you're actually still getting the '.' marker in the file, but
> extra blank lines are being added, this may or may not be related:
> 
> https://sopython.com/canon/97/writing-csv-adds-blank-lines-between-rows/
> 
> So try adding 'wb' to the open() call.

Even though I'm not using the cvswriter library, that fixed it, so thanks.



> But that open() should not even be necessary anyway.  I just use '>'
> redirection operator to write to a file.  That will work in windows too.
> 
> ./dah.py >outfile
> 
> or (without bash shebang):
> 
> python dah.py >outfile


That redirection works, but the output also has the alternating blank lines.

https://imgur.com/a/r4KDU3R

Only when opening the output file in 'wb' mode within the python code do 
I get valid results.

The slow retrieval via blocknews is strange.  It's always 20-30 seconds 
for 1000 articles.

Tried it a few times with eternal-september.  Consistently retrieves 
1000 articles in 3.6 seconds!

But ES only has cola - and most groups I think - going back to 2010. 
Blocknews goes back to Jul 2003 last I checked.

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#472344

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-16 09:46 -0700
Message-ID<2924eae7-1a06-48c8-a4d6-6d2a8b903635@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472339
On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 10:26:57 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> On 10/16/2018 11:17 AM, owl wrote:
> 
> > If you're actually still getting the '.' marker in the file, but
> > extra blank lines are being added, this may or may not be related:
> > 
> > https://sopython.com/canon/97/writing-csv-adds-blank-lines-between-rows/
> > 
> > So try adding 'wb' to the open() call.
> 
> Even though I'm not using the cvswriter library, that fixed it, so thanks.

Seems like that's just the example there... 'wb' should work with any call to 
open where you're having this issue because that's what open does w/o it.
 
> > But that open() should not even be necessary anyway.  I just use '>'
> > redirection operator to write to a file.  That will work in windows too.
> > 
> > ./dah.py >outfile
> > 
> > or (without bash shebang):
> > 
> > python dah.py >outfile
> 
> 
> That redirection works, but the output also has the alternating blank lines.
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/r4KDU3R

Weird.

> Only when opening the output file in 'wb' mode within the python code do 
> I get valid results.
> 
> The slow retrieval via blocknews is strange.  It's always 20-30 seconds 
> for 1000 articles.
> 
> Tried it a few times with eternal-september.  Consistently retrieves 
> 1000 articles in 3.6 seconds!
> 
> But ES only has cola - and most groups I think - going back to 2010. 
> Blocknews goes back to Jul 2003 last I checked.

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#472351

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-16 10:21 -0700
Message-ID<2a5f05fa-24c0-4283-b48f-c57c4b854696@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472344
On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 9:46:28 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 10:26:57 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> > On 10/16/2018 11:17 AM, owl wrote:
> > 
> > > If you're actually still getting the '.' marker in the file, but
> > > extra blank lines are being added, this may or may not be related:
> > > 
> > > https://sopython.com/canon/97/writing-csv-adds-blank-lines-between-rows/
> > > 
> > > So try adding 'wb' to the open() call.
> > 
> > Even though I'm not using the cvswriter library, that fixed it, so thanks.
> 
> Seems like that's just the example there... 'wb' should work with any call to 
> open where you're having this issue because that's what open does w/o it.
>  
> > > But that open() should not even be necessary anyway.  I just use '>'
> > > redirection operator to write to a file.  That will work in windows too.
> > > 
> > > ./dah.py >outfile
> > > 
> > > or (without bash shebang):
> > > 
> > > python dah.py >outfile
> > 
> > 
> > That redirection works, but the output also has the alternating blank lines.
> > 
> > https://imgur.com/a/r4KDU3R
> 
> Weird.
> 
> > Only when opening the output file in 'wb' mode within the python code do 
> > I get valid results.
> > 
> > The slow retrieval via blocknews is strange.  It's always 20-30 seconds 
> > for 1000 articles.
> > 
> > Tried it a few times with eternal-september.  Consistently retrieves 
> > 1000 articles in 3.6 seconds!
> > 
> > But ES only has cola - and most groups I think - going back to 2010. 
> > Blocknews goes back to Jul 2003 last I checked.



These degenerates get their jollies out of eliciting reactions to their attacks, which is the very definition of a troll. 

Nobody is being controlled by RMS. Mint's update system failed over and over again. Out-and-out drivel by an uninformed, tall-tale telling, scheming, conspiring lummox who would not tell the truth if his life depended on it. Klaus Schadenfreude is far too idiotic to write a Mint script. The only scripting he's capable of doing is copying code from online forums and claiming it as his own. 

Protected code is not enough to protect you. 

Can you cease seeking for my attention? 

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#472382

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-16 14:00 -0700
Message-ID<ef091783-5882-451f-866d-617537e245bd@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#472344
On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 9:46:28 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 10:26:57 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> > On 10/16/2018 11:17 AM, owl wrote:
> > 
> > > If you're actually still getting the '.' marker in the file, but
> > > extra blank lines are being added, this may or may not be related:
> > > 
> > > https://sopython.com/canon/97/writing-csv-adds-blank-lines-between-rows/
> > > 
> > > So try adding 'wb' to the open() call.
> > 
> > Even though I'm not using the cvswriter library, that fixed it, so thanks.
> 
> Seems like that's just the example there... 'wb' should work with any call to 
> open where you're having this issue because that's what open does w/o it.
>  
> > > But that open() should not even be necessary anyway.  I just use '>'
> > > redirection operator to write to a file.  That will work in windows too.
> > > 
> > > ./dah.py >outfile
> > > 
> > > or (without bash shebang):
> > > 
> > > python dah.py >outfile
> > 
> > 
> > That redirection works, but the output also has the alternating blank lines.
> > 
> > https://imgur.com/a/r4KDU3R
> 
> Weird.
> 
> > Only when opening the output file in 'wb' mode within the python code do 
> > I get valid results.
> > 
> > The slow retrieval via blocknews is strange.  It's always 20-30 seconds 
> > for 1000 articles.
> > 
> > Tried it a few times with eternal-september.  Consistently retrieves 
> > 1000 articles in 3.6 seconds!
> > 
> > But ES only has cola - and most groups I think - going back to 2010. 
> > Blocknews goes back to Jul 2003 last I checked.



What were you expecting? 

Just some names Klaus Schadenfreude has used
    "Evil" John *
    "Evil" Snit *
    Big Crotch on a Small Fish
    Cornelius Munshower
    CSMA Moderator
    Edward Stanfield
    Fretwiz *
    Hitman Hero
    Measles
    Petruzzellis Kids
    Sigmond
    Slaveen
    Smit
    Steve C *
    Steve Camoll *
    Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
    Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
    Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
    Steve Carroll's Dog *
    Steve Carrolll *
    Steve Carrroll *
    Yevette Owens
    Yobo_Obyo


You're like a full moon on a cloudless night. We all see you there and let you know. And you're so foolish you keep repeating it. 

It's simple to twist facts by focusing on hardly any isolated examples unrepresentative from what is something more common like GNU/Linux. What a better tactic from an honest advocates vantage point are the common events. Any heinously moronic insomniac could easily do the same. 

Just rubbish from him. But he has left tech behind and is holding me accountable for the deeds of himself. 

Klaus Schadenfreude claims to be the screencasting guru, let us see him put up a form without the sorting procedures.

The herd members value the lowest common denominator instead of choice. 

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#472345

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-10-16 16:49 +0000
Message-ID<a8bz00q.ayvo@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#472339
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 10/16/2018 11:17 AM, owl wrote:
> 
>> If you're actually still getting the '.' marker in the file, but
>> extra blank lines are being added, this may or may not be related:
>> 
>> https://sopython.com/canon/97/writing-csv-adds-blank-lines-between-rows/
>> 
>> So try adding 'wb' to the open() call.
> 
> Even though I'm not using the cvswriter library, that fixed it, so thanks.
> 
> 
> 
>> But that open() should not even be necessary anyway.  I just use '>'
>> redirection operator to write to a file.  That will work in windows too.
>> 
>> ./dah.py >outfile
>> 
>> or (without bash shebang):
>> 
>> python dah.py >outfile
> 
> 
> That redirection works, but the output also has the alternating blank lines.
> 
> https://imgur.com/a/r4KDU3R
> 

Weird.  And that's with redirecting a stdout print, not a write?
I would think a print redirection would work without adding stuff,
just like if you did:

type afile.txt >bfile.txt



> Only when opening the output file in 'wb' mode within the python code do 
> I get valid results.
> 
> The slow retrieval via blocknews is strange.  It's always 20-30 seconds 
> for 1000 articles.
> 
> Tried it a few times with eternal-september.  Consistently retrieves 
> 1000 articles in 3.6 seconds!
> 

Cool.

> But ES only has cola - and most groups I think - going back to 2010. 
> Blocknews goes back to Jul 2003 last I checked.
> 

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#470657

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-04 12:35 -0700
Message-ID<b4f49b22-42cc-4acb-8f3e-0969b351d3fb@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#470635
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 10:50:55 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On 10/4/2018 11:51 AM, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 8:07:40 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote:
> > 
> > (snip)
> >   
> >>> I've read this entire post (even replied to it already, just not posted 'cuz
> >>> I see my responses will probably change now that I've tried this). After
> >>> adjusting for the line length of the 'Subject' field with nntplib._MAXLINE,
> >>
> >> Why did you have to mess with MAXLINE?
> > 
> > I was getting an error: "raise NNTPDataError('line too long')
> 
> Yes, that's what I got.  As I recall it was thrown on the 
> 'Injection-Info' header for a few posts.
> 
> 
> 
> >> I once increased MAXLINE because
> >> some weirdo posts from alt.usenet.kook had a monstrously long header,
> >> but that was maybe 3 posts in the 2.6M I've downloaded.
> > 
> > Yeah, I noticed it wasn't in any of the scripts you gave me so there
> > must be a default that was working for most posts. How much room
> > does 2.6M take up on your drive?
> 
> 14.1 GB
> 
> 
> >>> I can print 1000 posts of data to a file in ~4.5 seconds.
> >>
> >> Cool.  Are you using this kind of call:
> >>
> >> response, subjects = news.xhdr("Subject","range of articles")
> > 
> > I'm currently using:
> > 
> > --
> > # print ('=====================')
> > print(news.xhdr("From","703470-704470"))
> > print(news.xhdr("Subject","703470-704470"))
> > print(news.xhdr("Date","703470-704470"))
> > print(news.xhdr("Message-ID","703470-704470"))
> > print(news.xhdr("References","703470-704470"))
> > 
> > 
> > for articleID in range(704470, 704490):
> > 
> >      print '====================='
> >      print 'article',articleID
> >      print '====================='
> > 
> >      try: response, artID, msgID, headers = news.head(str(articleID))
> >      except (nntplib.NNTPTemporaryError,nntplib.NNTPProtocolError,nntplib.NNTPDataError,nntplib.NNTPReplyError)  as headerError:
> >          print("(article ID",articleID, "Header NNTP Error", headerError,")")
> >          continue
> > 
> >      try: response, artID, msgID, body    = news.body(str(articleID))
> >      except (nntplib.NNTPTemporaryError,nntplib.NNTPProtocolError,nntplib.NNTPDataError,nntplib.NNTPReplyError)  as bodyError:
> >          print("(article ID",articleID, "Body NNTP Error", bodyError,")")
> >          continue
> > 
> >      linenbr = 1
> >      for bod in body:
> >          print(bod)
> >          linenbr += 1
> > --
> 
> 
> You keep showing just the print() routines.  So you're writing the data 
> to file(s) as well, I assume.  From then you're going to parse it out 
> into a relational db?
> 
> I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
> article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
> just pulls down the headers).
> 
> <quote>
> NNTP.article(id)
> Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
> Return as for head().
> </quote>
> 
> So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
> the entire post, headers and body!
> 
> So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
> it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
> 
> 
> import nntplib, time
> news = nntplib.NNTP('server',119,'user','password')
> r,a,b,e,g = news.group("comp.os.linux.advocacy")  #have to login to a 
> group when using article #s
> start = time.clock()
> for i, article in enumerate(range(1420100,1420200)):
> 	myfile = "D:\\cola_" + str(article)
> 	response, articleID, msgID, post = news.article(str(article))
> 	print i+1, articleID, msgID
> 	with open(myfile,'w') as f:
> 		for line in post:
> 			f.write(line + '\n')
> print "%.2fs to retrieve posts" % (time.clock() - start)
> news.quit()
> 	
> 
> This is just as good as using suck or suckmt I think.
> 
> 
> 
> > Running the above  script with just the header info takes  ~4.3 secs.
> > 
> > I don't know how to get the article bodies that fast so it still takes
> > ~5 minutes for 1000 posts. In any event, up until I fixed my Python
> > issues I wasn't able to find out if it would even work but now I have
> > and it does, albeit slowly due to the nested loops. So, at roughly 12
> > thousand posts per hour it's no speed demon but it works.
> 
> Yep.  It's a bear to populate your db with a 1M post archive.



Here are some of the scripted posts from Jonas Eklundh... the script adds a nonsense or irrelevant insult or accusation after most sentences and adds numbers to the text so he can better track his trolling:

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/RZtEyvJr8HI/VcEqOk2qCgAJ> or <https://goo.gl/67NLfr>.

You can see a run of three scripted flood posts from his primary account.

From: Sandman <mr@sandman.net>
Message-ID: <sandman-b7df8761d3b6831e96d5976e9e67f379@individual.net>
X-Trace: individual.net +MPBYFbnugFd2iPraU5I9ABV/5ZlNHtqj79Ij19mAYCfL5sHI=
User-Agent: Sandmania 2.0

He also has them elsewhere, here are some examples:

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/Xetqyi1T0F0/cvoqp3eqCgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/jy0rsr>.

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/10d0Emx_ABk/eN0r1_epCgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/Rkz0PO>.

On that one he has a run of two.

And a longer and clearly scripted, content-free flood post:

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/2WS3xlecnw8/lizfGLOnCgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/t7cTHd>.

And even more!

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/cYutxNP1hWc/KZikieXECgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/Z6G7Ic>

<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.os.linux.advocacy/RZtEyvJr8HI/6sJfxaDECgAJ> OR <https://goo.gl/mTXlFt>

Lots more but that is enough to prove the point multiple times over. Sandman has been flooding not just with his Google accounts but with his standard account. ALL of those come from the same source I listed above and it is Sandman's standard account. 

Jonas Eklundh: busted.

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#470667

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-10-04 20:44 +0000
Message-ID<az0b808ga.vu3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#470635
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> 
> I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
> article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
> just pulls down the headers).
> 
> <quote>
> NNTP.article(id)
> Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
> Return as for head().
> </quote>
> 
> So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
> the entire post, headers and body!
> 
> So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
> it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
> 

Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
everything with article commands and then parsing.

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#470669

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-04 14:09 -0700
Message-ID<46b550bb-0089-49a7-b5c4-fe43593ca6bc@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#470667
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 1:44:21 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
> > just pulls down the headers).
> > 
> > <quote>
> > NNTP.article(id)
> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
> > Return as for head().
> > </quote>
> > 
> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
> > the entire post, headers and body!
> > 
> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
> > 
> 
> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
> everything with article commands and then parsing.



Why do you keep rephrasing yourself? And you do, of course realize that it isn't impossible for Steven 'Super Troll' Carroll to be doing this, or encouraging those who are. Idiot. 

If Snit Glasser has 'myFile.doc' open in a word processor such as emacs and Steven 'Super Troll' Carroll wants to change its name to 'd.txt' via a bash script while editing a script, Snit Glasser's suggestion might be useful, if only to see it attach to an xmove display. 

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#470674

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-04 14:50 -0700
Message-ID<fad10dc6-8f0c-4467-a3af-ac2ee2d51c8c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#470667
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> > 
> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
> > just pulls down the headers).
> > 
> > <quote>
> > NNTP.article(id)
> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
> > Return as for head().
> > </quote>
> > 
> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
> > the entire post, headers and body!
> > 
> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
> > 
> 
> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
> everything with article commands and then parsing.

If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
september? I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
of it anyway.

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#470678

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-10-04 22:32 +0000
Message-ID<0z8b903ga.ay3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#470674
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
>> > just pulls down the headers).
>> > 
>> > <quote>
>> > NNTP.article(id)
>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
>> > Return as for head().
>> > </quote>
>> > 
>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
>> > the entire post, headers and body!
>> > 
>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
>> > 
>> 
>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
> 
> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
> september?

I don't have an account with them.

> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
> of it anyway.

You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:

openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563


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#470683

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-10-04 23:03 +0000
Message-ID<a0b80083ga.vi@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#470678
owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
>>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
>>> > just pulls down the headers).
>>> > 
>>> > <quote>
>>> > NNTP.article(id)
>>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
>>> > Return as for head().
>>> > </quote>
>>> > 
>>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
>>> > the entire post, headers and body!
>>> > 
>>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
>>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
>>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
>>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
>>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
>> 
>> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
>> september?
> 
> I don't have an account with them.
> 
>> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
>> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
>> of it anyway.
> 
> You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
> a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
> doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
> Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
> 119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
> to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:
> 
> openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563
> 

I just set up an account with them.  Works fine with either netcat
to port 119 or openssl to port 563.  Issue these commands when you
connect:

authinfo user yourusername
authinfo pass yourpassword
group comp.os.linux.advocacy

I get this:
281 Authentication succeeded
group comp.os.linux.advocacy
211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy

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#470689

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-04 16:28 -0700
Message-ID<d166ba44-bd7b-484d-a980-350e0c1d2faf@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#470683
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 4:03:15 PM UTC-7, owl wrote:
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>> > 
> >>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
> >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
> >>> > just pulls down the headers).
> >>> > 
> >>> > <quote>
> >>> > NNTP.article(id)
> >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
> >>> > Return as for head().
> >>> > </quote>
> >>> > 
> >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
> >>> > the entire post, headers and body!
> >>> > 
> >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
> >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
> >>> > 
> >>> 
> >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
> >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
> >>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
> >>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
> >> 
> >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
> >> september?
> > 
> > I don't have an account with them.
> > 
> >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
> >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
> >> of it anyway.
> > 
> > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
> > a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
> > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
> > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
> > 119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
> > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:
> > 
> > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563
> > 
> 
> I just set up an account with them.  Works fine with either netcat
> to port 119 or openssl to port 563.  Issue these commands when you
> connect:
> 
> authinfo user yourusername
> authinfo pass yourpassword
> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> 
> I get this:
> 281 Authentication succeeded
> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy



You guys can only speculate from the viewpoint of a sociopath. 

And you do, of course realize that it isn't impossible for Steve Petruzzellis to be doing this, or encouraging those who are. 

I've worked for the OEM PC business for nearly 45 years. I have served top corporations selling to the aeronautics industry and the health industry. Never, with even a hint, were we on any occasion under a contractual obligation not to install any OS we wanted. We sold Xenix, Apple II, Symbian, among others with MS OSs. 

Steve Petruzzellis is the result of the truth that Marxists have been employed to take over responsibility for schooling kids. It is not mere happenstance that he is an idiotic Marxist. 

--
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https://youtu.be/E3m_i-x92D0
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#470692

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-04 16:54 -0700
Message-ID<7032cb07-9d53-4d69-97f5-6c6cef25d973@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#470683
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >>> > 
> >>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
> >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
> >>> > just pulls down the headers).
> >>> > 
> >>> > <quote>
> >>> > NNTP.article(id)
> >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
> >>> > Return as for head().
> >>> > </quote>
> >>> > 
> >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
> >>> > the entire post, headers and body!
> >>> > 
> >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
> >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
> >>> > 
> >>> 
> >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
> >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
> >>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
> >>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
> >> 
> >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
> >> september?
> > 
> > I don't have an account with them.
> > 
> >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
> >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
> >> of it anyway.
> > 
> > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
> > a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
> > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
> > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
> > 119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
> > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:
> > 
> > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563
> > 
> 
> I just set up an account with them.  Works fine with either netcat
> to port 119 or openssl to port 563.  Issue these commands when you
> connect:
> 
> authinfo user yourusername
> authinfo pass yourpassword
> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> 
> I get this:
> 281 Authentication succeeded
> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy

I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I 
don't understand),  I was unable to connect using it.

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#470694

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-10-05 00:02 +0000
Message-ID<sz0b003ga0gv.gho3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#470692
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
>> >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
>> >>> > just pulls down the headers).
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > <quote>
>> >>> > NNTP.article(id)
>> >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
>> >>> > Return as for head().
>> >>> > </quote>
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
>> >>> > the entire post, headers and body!
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
>> >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
>> >>> > 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
>> >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
>> >>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
>> >>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
>> >> 
>> >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
>> >> september?
>> > 
>> > I don't have an account with them.
>> > 
>> >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
>> >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
>> >> of it anyway.
>> > 
>> > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
>> > a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
>> > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
>> > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
>> > 119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
>> > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:
>> > 
>> > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563
>> > 
>> 
>> I just set up an account with them.  Works fine with either netcat
>> to port 119 or openssl to port 563.  Issue these commands when you
>> connect:
>> 
>> authinfo user yourusername
>> authinfo pass yourpassword
>> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> 
>> I get this:
>> 281 Authentication succeeded
>> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy
> 
> I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I 
> don't understand),  I was unable to connect using it.

It doesn't matter how you connect.  Telnet works too.  This is all
that newsreader software does when connecting.  It just sends nntp
commands, and the server responds.  The server doesn't care how
you connect.  It's just listening on the port and responding to
commands.  It's the same with HTTP and any other internet service.
Each service has its own set of commands that it understands.
If you succeed in connecting to nntp, type 'help' and the server
will return a list of commands that you can play with.

anon@lowtide:~$ telnet news.eternal-september.org 119
Trying 85.214.115.223...
Connected to reader02.eternal-september.org.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 reader02.eternal-september.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.7.0 (20180513 snapshot) ready (posting ok)
authinfo user XXXXXXXXX 
381 Enter password
authinfo pass XXXXXXXXX 
281 Authentication succeeded
group comp.os.linux.advocacy
211 446788 22199 706009 comp.os.linux.advocacy
xhdr from 706009
221 Header or metadata information for from follows (from overview)
706009 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
.
quit
205 Bye!
Connection closed by foreign host.
anon@lowtide:~$ 

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#470698

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-04 17:20 -0700
Message-ID<d6fa218e-5e68-4980-8dd7-9b2c59079a5b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#470694
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:02:52 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> >> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> >> >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> >>> > 
> >> >>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
> >> >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
> >> >>> > just pulls down the headers).
> >> >>> > 
> >> >>> > <quote>
> >> >>> > NNTP.article(id)
> >> >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
> >> >>> > Return as for head().
> >> >>> > </quote>
> >> >>> > 
> >> >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
> >> >>> > the entire post, headers and body!
> >> >>> > 
> >> >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
> >> >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
> >> >>> > 
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
> >> >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
> >> >>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
> >> >>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
> >> >> 
> >> >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
> >> >> september?
> >> > 
> >> > I don't have an account with them.
> >> > 
> >> >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
> >> >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
> >> >> of it anyway.
> >> > 
> >> > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
> >> > a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
> >> > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
> >> > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
> >> > 119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
> >> > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:
> >> > 
> >> > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563
> >> > 
> >> 
> >> I just set up an account with them.  Works fine with either netcat
> >> to port 119 or openssl to port 563.  Issue these commands when you
> >> connect:
> >> 
> >> authinfo user yourusername
> >> authinfo pass yourpassword
> >> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >> 
> >> I get this:
> >> 281 Authentication succeeded
> >> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >> 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy
> > 
> > I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I 
> > don't understand),  I was unable to connect using it.
> 
> It doesn't matter how you connect.  Telnet works too.  This is all
> that newsreader software does when connecting.  It just sends nntp
> commands, and the server responds.  The server doesn't care how
> you connect.  It's just listening on the port and responding to
> commands.  It's the same with HTTP and any other internet service.
> Each service has its own set of commands that it understands.
> If you succeed in connecting to nntp, type 'help' and the server
> will return a list of commands that you can play with.

DOH! I haven't been on telnet or any BBS for ages ;)

> anon@lowtide:~$ telnet news.eternal-september.org 119
> Trying 85.214.115.223...
> Connected to reader02.eternal-september.org.
> Escape character is '^]'.
> 200 reader02.eternal-september.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.7.0 (20180513 snapshot) ready (posting ok)
> authinfo user XXXXXXXXX 
> 381 Enter password
> authinfo pass XXXXXXXXX 

Just saw this post... but I've tried it by using every variation. 
One of them spit back: "481 Invalid credentials"

But it isn't invalid, I copied them out of my script where they work fine.
I tried with no quotes, single quotes, double quotes, using PASS in front
with all of the above, etc. F*cker won't let me login. LOL!

> 281 Authentication succeeded
> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> 211 446788 22199 706009 comp.os.linux.advocacy
> xhdr from 706009
> 221 Header or metadata information for from follows (from overview)
> 706009 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>

*your* connection uses *my* name? 

> .
> quit
> 205 Bye!
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> anon@lowtide:~$

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#470700

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-04 17:31 -0700
Message-ID<5f70e34e-3613-42eb-9c9e-b18399e8fb02@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#470698
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:20:37 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:02:52 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> > >> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> > >> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> > >> >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> > >> >>> > 
> > >> >>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
> > >> >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
> > >> >>> > just pulls down the headers).
> > >> >>> > 
> > >> >>> > <quote>
> > >> >>> > NNTP.article(id)
> > >> >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
> > >> >>> > Return as for head().
> > >> >>> > </quote>
> > >> >>> > 
> > >> >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
> > >> >>> > the entire post, headers and body!
> > >> >>> > 
> > >> >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
> > >> >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
> > >> >>> > 
> > >> >>> 
> > >> >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
> > >> >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
> > >> >>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
> > >> >>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
> > >> >> september?
> > >> > 
> > >> > I don't have an account with them.
> > >> > 
> > >> >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
> > >> >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
> > >> >> of it anyway.
> > >> > 
> > >> > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
> > >> > a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
> > >> > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
> > >> > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
> > >> > 119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
> > >> > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:
> > >> > 
> > >> > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563
> > >> > 
> > >> 
> > >> I just set up an account with them.  Works fine with either netcat
> > >> to port 119 or openssl to port 563.  Issue these commands when you
> > >> connect:
> > >> 
> > >> authinfo user yourusername
> > >> authinfo pass yourpassword
> > >> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> > >> 
> > >> I get this:
> > >> 281 Authentication succeeded
> > >> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> > >> 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy
> > > 
> > > I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I 
> > > don't understand),  I was unable to connect using it.
> > 
> > It doesn't matter how you connect.  Telnet works too.  This is all
> > that newsreader software does when connecting.  It just sends nntp
> > commands, and the server responds.  The server doesn't care how
> > you connect.  It's just listening on the port and responding to
> > commands.  It's the same with HTTP and any other internet service.
> > Each service has its own set of commands that it understands.
> > If you succeed in connecting to nntp, type 'help' and the server
> > will return a list of commands that you can play with.
> 
> DOH! I haven't been on telnet or any BBS for ages ;)
> 
> > anon@lowtide:~$ telnet news.eternal-september.org 119
> > Trying 85.214.115.223...
> > Connected to reader02.eternal-september.org.
> > Escape character is '^]'.
> > 200 reader02.eternal-september.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.7.0 (20180513 snapshot) ready (posting ok)
> > authinfo user XXXXXXXXX 
> > 381 Enter password
> > authinfo pass XXXXXXXXX 
> 
> Just saw this post... but I've tried it by using every variation. 
> One of them spit back: "481 Invalid credentials"
> 
> But it isn't invalid, I copied them out of my script where they work fine.
> I tried with no quotes, single quotes, double quotes, using PASS in front
> with all of the above, etc. F*cker won't let me login. LOL!
> 
> > 281 Authentication succeeded
> > group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> > 211 446788 22199 706009 comp.os.linux.advocacy
> > xhdr from 706009
> > 221 Header or metadata information for from follows (from overview)
> > 706009 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
> 
> *your* connection uses *my* name? 
> 
> > .
> > quit
> > 205 Bye!
> > Connection closed by foreign host.
> > anon@lowtide:~$



You've proven only what a moron you are. 

Turns out Snit's non-stop flooding comments of Klaus Schadenfreude met the agreed on criteria of trolling, so he pretended he never said that. 

You _do_ realize that the massive floods ending up in multiple groups started out as a joke about hacking Google. Any horribly wounded welfare receiver could easily do the same. 

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#470701

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-10-05 00:32 +0000
Message-ID<a0b803ta00ga.gah3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#470698
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:02:52 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> >> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> >> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
>> >> >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> >> >>> > 
>> >> >>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
>> >> >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
>> >> >>> > just pulls down the headers).
>> >> >>> > 
>> >> >>> > <quote>
>> >> >>> > NNTP.article(id)
>> >> >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
>> >> >>> > Return as for head().
>> >> >>> > </quote>
>> >> >>> > 
>> >> >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
>> >> >>> > the entire post, headers and body!
>> >> >>> > 
>> >> >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
>> >> >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
>> >> >>> > 
>> >> >>> 
>> >> >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
>> >> >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
>> >> >>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
>> >> >>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
>> >> >> 
>> >> >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
>> >> >> september?
>> >> > 
>> >> > I don't have an account with them.
>> >> > 
>> >> >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
>> >> >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
>> >> >> of it anyway.
>> >> > 
>> >> > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
>> >> > a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
>> >> > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
>> >> > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
>> >> > 119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
>> >> > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:
>> >> > 
>> >> > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563
>> >> > 
>> >> 
>> >> I just set up an account with them.  Works fine with either netcat
>> >> to port 119 or openssl to port 563.  Issue these commands when you
>> >> connect:
>> >> 
>> >> authinfo user yourusername
>> >> authinfo pass yourpassword
>> >> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> >> 
>> >> I get this:
>> >> 281 Authentication succeeded
>> >> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> >> 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> > 
>> > I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I 
>> > don't understand),  I was unable to connect using it.
>> 
>> It doesn't matter how you connect.  Telnet works too.  This is all
>> that newsreader software does when connecting.  It just sends nntp
>> commands, and the server responds.  The server doesn't care how
>> you connect.  It's just listening on the port and responding to
>> commands.  It's the same with HTTP and any other internet service.
>> Each service has its own set of commands that it understands.
>> If you succeed in connecting to nntp, type 'help' and the server
>> will return a list of commands that you can play with.
> 
> DOH! I haven't been on telnet or any BBS for ages ;)
> 
>> anon@lowtide:~$ telnet news.eternal-september.org 119
>> Trying 85.214.115.223...
>> Connected to reader02.eternal-september.org.
>> Escape character is '^]'.
>> 200 reader02.eternal-september.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.7.0 (20180513 snapshot) ready (posting ok)
>> authinfo user XXXXXXXXX 
>> 381 Enter password
>> authinfo pass XXXXXXXXX 
> 
> Just saw this post... but I've tried it by using every variation. 
> One of them spit back: "481 Invalid credentials"
> 
> But it isn't invalid, I copied them out of my script where they work fine.
> I tried with no quotes, single quotes, double quotes, using PASS in front
> with all of the above, etc. F*cker won't let me login. LOL!
> 
>> 281 Authentication succeeded
>> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> 211 446788 22199 706009 comp.os.linux.advocacy
>> xhdr from 706009
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>> 221 Header or metadata information for from follows (from overview)
>> 706009 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
> 
> *your* connection uses *my* name? 
> 

That's running 'xhdr' command requesting the 'from' header for
article 706009, which was a post of yours.

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#470703

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
Date2018-10-04 17:41 -0700
Message-ID<35b0e823-0ead-4b92-9ea4-73f0ab64972a@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#470701
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:32:56 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:02:52 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> >> >> owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> >> >> > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote:
> >> >> >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >>> > I just discovered something.  The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the 
> >> >> >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which 
> >> >> >>> > just pulls down the headers).
> >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >>> > <quote>
> >> >> >>> > NNTP.article(id)
> >> >> >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). 
> >> >> >>> > Return as for head().
> >> >> >>> > </quote>
> >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now.  And it turns out it retrieves 
> >> >> >>> > the entire post, headers and body!
> >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command.  I just did a test with 
> >> >> >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds.
> >> >> >>> > 
> >> >> >>> 
> >> >> >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.).
> >> >> >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them.  No real need for
> >> >> >>> python nntplib.  I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing
> >> >> >>> everything with article commands and then parsing.
> >> >> >> 
> >> >> >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal 
> >> >> >> september?
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > I don't have an account with them.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm 
> >> >> >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit 
> >> >> >> of it anyway.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not
> >> >> > a nntps connection.  My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader
> >> >> > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563.
> >> >> > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost
> >> >> > 119, and it's tunneled.  You can also use opennssl to connect directly
> >> >> > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat:
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563
> >> >> > 
> >> >> 
> >> >> I just set up an account with them.  Works fine with either netcat
> >> >> to port 119 or openssl to port 563.  Issue these commands when you
> >> >> connect:
> >> >> 
> >> >> authinfo user yourusername
> >> >> authinfo pass yourpassword
> >> >> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >> >> 
> >> >> I get this:
> >> >> 281 Authentication succeeded
> >> >> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >> >> 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >> > 
> >> > I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I 
> >> > don't understand),  I was unable to connect using it.
> >> 
> >> It doesn't matter how you connect.  Telnet works too.  This is all
> >> that newsreader software does when connecting.  It just sends nntp
> >> commands, and the server responds.  The server doesn't care how
> >> you connect.  It's just listening on the port and responding to
> >> commands.  It's the same with HTTP and any other internet service.
> >> Each service has its own set of commands that it understands.
> >> If you succeed in connecting to nntp, type 'help' and the server
> >> will return a list of commands that you can play with.
> > 
> > DOH! I haven't been on telnet or any BBS for ages ;)
> > 
> >> anon@lowtide:~$ telnet news.eternal-september.org 119
> >> Trying 85.214.115.223...
> >> Connected to reader02.eternal-september.org.
> >> Escape character is '^]'.
> >> 200 reader02.eternal-september.org InterNetNews NNRP server INN 2.7.0 (20180513 snapshot) ready (posting ok)
> >> authinfo user XXXXXXXXX 
> >> 381 Enter password
> >> authinfo pass XXXXXXXXX 
> > 
> > Just saw this post... but I've tried it by using every variation. 
> > One of them spit back: "481 Invalid credentials"
> > 
> > But it isn't invalid, I copied them out of my script where they work fine.
> > I tried with no quotes, single quotes, double quotes, using PASS in front
> > with all of the above, etc. F*cker won't let me login. LOL!
> > 
> >> 281 Authentication succeeded
> >> group comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >> 211 446788 22199 706009 comp.os.linux.advocacy
> >> xhdr from 706009
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> >> 221 Header or metadata information for from follows (from overview)
> >> 706009 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com>
> > 
> > *your* connection uses *my* name? 
> > 
> 
> That's running 'xhdr' command requesting the 'from' header for
> article 706009, which was a post of yours.

Ah, I missed that. Is it possible to get a range of posts and save them
to a local file? I'm looking through 'help' and playing around but I don't
see anything for a range (I tried OVER but that's not it).

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