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Lenovo T450

Started byMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
First post2016-12-05 21:20 -0600
Last post2016-12-06 05:12 +0000
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  Lenovo T450 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-12-05 21:20 -0600
    Re: Lenovo T450 deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-12-06 03:44 +0000
      Re: Lenovo T450 Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-12-05 22:13 -0600
        Re: Lenovo T450 deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-12-06 05:12 +0000

#382973 — Lenovo T450

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-12-05 21:20 -0600
SubjectLenovo T450
Message-ID<Q5-dnW9qosX0s9vFnZ2dnUU7-L3NnZ2d@giganews.com>
About a week ago or more I popped my Lenovo 14" laptop out of my back
pack to update the OS. When I turned it on I saw a line of white pixels
stuck on. This is a TN display of 1600x900. I hated the display
something awful and thought about trying my hand and replacing the
display. I've never done so on a laptop. 

So I found a company that sells compatible panels. I bought a 1920x1080
IPS panel to replace my TN panel of 1600x900. My friends warned me this
might be a problem, but I said, I don't think so because the laptop
offers these other resolutions already. 

So I order the panel, it arrives, 5 minutes to get the old panel out and
about ten minutes to clear the sticky tape and do a reasonable job and
replacing the tape to reapply the existing bezel. 

What I got was a row of red dots, almost in the same location as the
white dots on the prior panel. What are the odds I asked myself? I
checked BIOS, I swapped the memory, I altered how much ram was dedicated
to the shared graphics memory just in case. Nope, nothing. Same old
problem. In the interest of time I ordered another panel while starting
a trouble ticket on the first panel. 

Second panel arrived today. Pealed away the bezel, removed the prior
panel and installed the new IPS matte 1920 x 1080 panel. 

perfect. 

So my favorite little laptop now has a shiny new IPS 1920 x 1080 panel.
No more viewing angel issues. 

So I visit the Lenovo web site to see what's new. And I end up ordering
the T460p. This time I am getting a Quad core i5, basically the same
dimensions. Just more power. And I ordered it with a 1920 x 1080 panel
and a cellular modem board same as my 450. That will be my new Manjaro
laptop. And I think what I will do with the T450 is put Windows back on
it and then install the Adobe suite on that. Then I will not have to use
that Dell 15" XPS with the with super shallow keyboard I hate so much. 

I priced out a Dell Latitude 13" with cellular option and it was about
twice the price of the Lenovo T460p. And I get the keyboard I really
like. And this time, I ordered 3 years of service on site. 

The replacement panels by the way are cheap. I am tempted to buy a
replacement IPS panel for Dell M4800 now that I know how easy it is to
change these out. Changing the keyboard on a PowerPC Mac laptop was much
more difficult than replacing the screen on the Lenovo. 

This is what I like about Lenovo. Fixing this thing is easy. On my Dell
m4800 I screwed up originally and didn't get exactly what I had wanted.
I didn't get backlit keys and the DVD was a tray drive and DVD-R only.
It was easy to replace the keyboard with a backlit one and replace the
DVD-R with a DVD-RW that was slot loading. I replaced the WiFi with a
better intel model as well. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#382974

Fromdeplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-12-06 03:44 +0000
Message-ID<ahgue03ga.ji@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#382973
Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
> About a week ago or more I popped my Lenovo 14" laptop out of my back
> pack to update the OS. When I turned it on I saw a line of white pixels
> stuck on. This is a TN display of 1600x900. I hated the display
> something awful and thought about trying my hand and replacing the
> display. I've never done so on a laptop. 
> 
> So I found a company that sells compatible panels. I bought a 1920x1080
> IPS panel to replace my TN panel of 1600x900. My friends warned me this
> might be a problem, but I said, I don't think so because the laptop
> offers these other resolutions already. 
> 
> So I order the panel, it arrives, 5 minutes to get the old panel out and
> about ten minutes to clear the sticky tape and do a reasonable job and
> replacing the tape to reapply the existing bezel. 
> 
> What I got was a row of red dots, almost in the same location as the
> white dots on the prior panel. What are the odds I asked myself? I
> checked BIOS, I swapped the memory, I altered how much ram was dedicated
> to the shared graphics memory just in case. Nope, nothing. Same old
> problem. In the interest of time I ordered another panel while starting
> a trouble ticket on the first panel. 
> 
> Second panel arrived today. Pealed away the bezel, removed the prior
> panel and installed the new IPS matte 1920 x 1080 panel. 
> 
> perfect. 
> 
> So my favorite little laptop now has a shiny new IPS 1920 x 1080 panel.
> No more viewing angel issues. 
> 
> So I visit the Lenovo web site to see what's new. And I end up ordering
> the T460p. This time I am getting a Quad core i5, basically the same
> dimensions. Just more power. And I ordered it with a 1920 x 1080 panel
> and a cellular modem board same as my 450. That will be my new Manjaro
> laptop. And I think what I will do with the T450 is put Windows back on
> it and then install the Adobe suite on that. Then I will not have to use
> that Dell 15" XPS with the with super shallow keyboard I hate so much. 
> 
> I priced out a Dell Latitude 13" with cellular option and it was about
> twice the price of the Lenovo T460p. And I get the keyboard I really
> like. And this time, I ordered 3 years of service on site. 
> 
> The replacement panels by the way are cheap. I am tempted to buy a
> replacement IPS panel for Dell M4800 now that I know how easy it is to
> change these out. Changing the keyboard on a PowerPC Mac laptop was much
> more difficult than replacing the screen on the Lenovo. 
> 
> This is what I like about Lenovo. Fixing this thing is easy. On my Dell
> m4800 I screwed up originally and didn't get exactly what I had wanted.
> I didn't get backlit keys and the DVD was a tray drive and DVD-R only.
> It was easy to replace the keyboard with a backlit one and replace the
> DVD-R with a DVD-RW that was slot loading. I replaced the WiFi with a
> better intel model as well. 
> 

My lenovo w520 now has a logitech wireless keyboard sitting on top
because a column of keys died about a year ago.  This week teh DVD
drive stopped working, so I guess I'll have to hang a usb dvd off
the side now.  As long as it's still breathing I'm content.

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#382978

FromMarek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com>
Date2016-12-05 22:13 -0600
Message-ID<jp6dnXiFKeRBp9vFnZ2dnUU7-cvNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#382974
On 2016-12-06, deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>> About a week ago or more I popped my Lenovo 14" laptop out of my back
>> pack to update the OS. When I turned it on I saw a line of white pixels
>> stuck on. This is a TN display of 1600x900. I hated the display
>> something awful and thought about trying my hand and replacing the
>> display. I've never done so on a laptop. 
>> 
>> So I found a company that sells compatible panels. I bought a 1920x1080
>> IPS panel to replace my TN panel of 1600x900. My friends warned me this
>> might be a problem, but I said, I don't think so because the laptop
>> offers these other resolutions already. 
>> 
>> So I order the panel, it arrives, 5 minutes to get the old panel out and
>> about ten minutes to clear the sticky tape and do a reasonable job and
>> replacing the tape to reapply the existing bezel. 
>> 
>> What I got was a row of red dots, almost in the same location as the
>> white dots on the prior panel. What are the odds I asked myself? I
>> checked BIOS, I swapped the memory, I altered how much ram was dedicated
>> to the shared graphics memory just in case. Nope, nothing. Same old
>> problem. In the interest of time I ordered another panel while starting
>> a trouble ticket on the first panel. 
>> 
>> Second panel arrived today. Pealed away the bezel, removed the prior
>> panel and installed the new IPS matte 1920 x 1080 panel. 
>> 
>> perfect. 
>> 
>> So my favorite little laptop now has a shiny new IPS 1920 x 1080 panel.
>> No more viewing angel issues. 
>> 
>> So I visit the Lenovo web site to see what's new. And I end up ordering
>> the T460p. This time I am getting a Quad core i5, basically the same
>> dimensions. Just more power. And I ordered it with a 1920 x 1080 panel
>> and a cellular modem board same as my 450. That will be my new Manjaro
>> laptop. And I think what I will do with the T450 is put Windows back on
>> it and then install the Adobe suite on that. Then I will not have to use
>> that Dell 15" XPS with the with super shallow keyboard I hate so much. 
>> 
>> I priced out a Dell Latitude 13" with cellular option and it was about
>> twice the price of the Lenovo T460p. And I get the keyboard I really
>> like. And this time, I ordered 3 years of service on site. 
>> 
>> The replacement panels by the way are cheap. I am tempted to buy a
>> replacement IPS panel for Dell M4800 now that I know how easy it is to
>> change these out. Changing the keyboard on a PowerPC Mac laptop was much
>> more difficult than replacing the screen on the Lenovo. 
>> 
>> This is what I like about Lenovo. Fixing this thing is easy. On my Dell
>> m4800 I screwed up originally and didn't get exactly what I had wanted.
>> I didn't get backlit keys and the DVD was a tray drive and DVD-R only.
>> It was easy to replace the keyboard with a backlit one and replace the
>> DVD-R with a DVD-RW that was slot loading. I replaced the WiFi with a
>> better intel model as well. 
>> 
>
> My lenovo w520 now has a logitech wireless keyboard sitting on top
> because a column of keys died about a year ago.  This week teh DVD
> drive stopped working, so I guess I'll have to hang a usb dvd off
> the side now.  As long as it's still breathing I'm content.

Why don't you just fix it?

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#382982

Fromdeplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2016-12-06 05:12 +0000
Message-ID<agepp99b3.5@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#382978
Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
> On 2016-12-06, deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>>> About a week ago or more I popped my Lenovo 14" laptop out of my back
>>> pack to update the OS. When I turned it on I saw a line of white pixels
>>> stuck on. This is a TN display of 1600x900. I hated the display
>>> something awful and thought about trying my hand and replacing the
>>> display. I've never done so on a laptop. 
>>> 
>>> So I found a company that sells compatible panels. I bought a 1920x1080
>>> IPS panel to replace my TN panel of 1600x900. My friends warned me this
>>> might be a problem, but I said, I don't think so because the laptop
>>> offers these other resolutions already. 
>>> 
>>> So I order the panel, it arrives, 5 minutes to get the old panel out and
>>> about ten minutes to clear the sticky tape and do a reasonable job and
>>> replacing the tape to reapply the existing bezel. 
>>> 
>>> What I got was a row of red dots, almost in the same location as the
>>> white dots on the prior panel. What are the odds I asked myself? I
>>> checked BIOS, I swapped the memory, I altered how much ram was dedicated
>>> to the shared graphics memory just in case. Nope, nothing. Same old
>>> problem. In the interest of time I ordered another panel while starting
>>> a trouble ticket on the first panel. 
>>> 
>>> Second panel arrived today. Pealed away the bezel, removed the prior
>>> panel and installed the new IPS matte 1920 x 1080 panel. 
>>> 
>>> perfect. 
>>> 
>>> So my favorite little laptop now has a shiny new IPS 1920 x 1080 panel.
>>> No more viewing angel issues. 
>>> 
>>> So I visit the Lenovo web site to see what's new. And I end up ordering
>>> the T460p. This time I am getting a Quad core i5, basically the same
>>> dimensions. Just more power. And I ordered it with a 1920 x 1080 panel
>>> and a cellular modem board same as my 450. That will be my new Manjaro
>>> laptop. And I think what I will do with the T450 is put Windows back on
>>> it and then install the Adobe suite on that. Then I will not have to use
>>> that Dell 15" XPS with the with super shallow keyboard I hate so much. 
>>> 
>>> I priced out a Dell Latitude 13" with cellular option and it was about
>>> twice the price of the Lenovo T460p. And I get the keyboard I really
>>> like. And this time, I ordered 3 years of service on site. 
>>> 
>>> The replacement panels by the way are cheap. I am tempted to buy a
>>> replacement IPS panel for Dell M4800 now that I know how easy it is to
>>> change these out. Changing the keyboard on a PowerPC Mac laptop was much
>>> more difficult than replacing the screen on the Lenovo. 
>>> 
>>> This is what I like about Lenovo. Fixing this thing is easy. On my Dell
>>> m4800 I screwed up originally and didn't get exactly what I had wanted.
>>> I didn't get backlit keys and the DVD was a tray drive and DVD-R only.
>>> It was easy to replace the keyboard with a backlit one and replace the
>>> DVD-R with a DVD-RW that was slot loading. I replaced the WiFi with a
>>> better intel model as well. 
>>> 
>>
>> My lenovo w520 now has a logitech wireless keyboard sitting on top
>> because a column of keys died about a year ago.  This week teh DVD
>> drive stopped working, so I guess I'll have to hang a usb dvd off
>> the side now.  As long as it's still breathing I'm content.
> 
> Why don't you just fix it?
> 

If it ain't fixed, don't break it.  Seriously, I can't really afford
the downtime to troubleshoot it.  I reseated the keyboard cable back
when, and that didn't help.  It might work for the DVD.  As rarely
as I use the thing though, a cheap USB solution might be the ticket.
The builtin DVD tray had an annoying habit of ejecting on its own
every other day.  I would close it, and it would go "Nope" and open
again, taunting me.

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