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  LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-08-07 16:14 +0000
    Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 12:28 -0400
    Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-07 17:34 +0000
      Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-08 13:51 -0400
        Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-09 03:21 +0000
          Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-08-09 13:09 +0000
            Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-09 10:20 -0400
            Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-09 15:19 +0000
          Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-09 10:17 -0400
            Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-08-09 14:57 +0000
              Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-09 11:25 -0400
    Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-08-07 19:49 +0000
      Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-08-07 21:09 +0000
        Re: LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-08-07 22:51 +0000

#364698 — LibreOffice Getting Too Bloated

Gentoo, the ONLY distro for REAL men, compiles ALL
of my GNU/Linux software except for a few packages.

One of those packages is LibreOffice.

Gentoo wants to pull in icedtea instead of Oracle java
and that is something, for certain reasons, which I cannot
allow.  Thus, I am essentially forced to use the binary
version of LibreOffice from their official repository.

My minimalist system used to be able to accommodate the
binary OpenOffice, but it does not suffice for the newer
LibreOffice.  Here is a list of "extra" libraries which
I have to manually include in the LO binary tree:

avahi-libs-0.6.31
cups-libs-2.0.2
dbus-glib-0.104
keyutils-libs-1.5.9
krb5-libs-1.13
libselinux-2.3
openssl-libs-1.0.2e

For what do they need this infernal shit?  I don't need
a fucking print spooler.  I don't need fucking network
awareness.  So give me a fucking break, assholes.

Well, today I downloaded the latest LO binary release and
now I need even MORE extra libraries:

gnutls-3.3.22-1
libtspi11-0.3.13
nettle-2.7.1
p11-kit-0.23.2

Holy fucking shit!  What the fuck is going on here?
The package libtspi1 is to implement trusted computing!

The LO folks seem to be following the unstoppable trend
of wanting to do everything simply because they CAN.
But doing something just because one CAN do it is not
a valid reason.

I am afraid that before too long I shall have compile LO
from source MYSELF and remove all that useless cruft.

That would be best.  LO runs much faster if compiled from
source.

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#364699

On 7 Aug 2016 16:14:31 GMT, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:

> Gentoo, the ONLY distro for REAL men, compiles ALL
> of my GNU/Linux software except for a few packages.
> 
> One of those packages is LibreOffice.
> 
> Gentoo wants to pull in icedtea instead of Oracle java
> and that is something, for certain reasons, which I cannot
> allow.  Thus, I am essentially forced to use the binary
> version of LibreOffice from their official repository.
> 
> My minimalist system used to be able to accommodate the
> binary OpenOffice, but it does not suffice for the newer
> LibreOffice.  Here is a list of "extra" libraries which
> I have to manually include in the LO binary tree:
> 
> avahi-libs-0.6.31
> cups-libs-2.0.2
> dbus-glib-0.104
> keyutils-libs-1.5.9
> krb5-libs-1.13
> libselinux-2.3
> openssl-libs-1.0.2e
> 
> For what do they need this infernal shit?  I don't need
> a fucking print spooler.  I don't need fucking network
> awareness.  So give me a fucking break, assholes.
> 
> Well, today I downloaded the latest LO binary release and
> now I need even MORE extra libraries:
> 
> gnutls-3.3.22-1
> libtspi11-0.3.13
> nettle-2.7.1
> p11-kit-0.23.2
> 
> Holy fucking shit!  What the fuck is going on here?
> The package libtspi1 is to implement trusted computing!
> 
> The LO folks seem to be following the unstoppable trend
> of wanting to do everything simply because they CAN.
> But doing something just because one CAN do it is not
> a valid reason.
> 
> I am afraid that before too long I shall have compile LO
> from source MYSELF and remove all that useless cruft.
> 
> That would be best.  LO runs much faster if compiled from
> source.

You sure spend a lot of time tinkering with Linux.
When do you actually have the time to do some productive work with
Linux?

-- 
flatfish+++
Often imitated.
Never duplicated.

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#364707

Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> wrote:
> Gentoo, the ONLY distro for REAL men, compiles ALL
> of my GNU/Linux software except for a few packages.
> 
> One of those packages is LibreOffice.
> 

Real Men don't need an "office suite," Fagtard.

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#364814

On 8/7/2016 1:34 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> wrote:
>> Gentoo, the ONLY distro for REAL men, compiles ALL
>> of my GNU/Linux software except for a few packages.
>>
>> One of those packages is LibreOffice.
>>
>
> Real Men don't need an "office suite," Fagtard.


The naive Feeb thought it was the height of "advanced db usage" to show 
parent/child data in a LibreOffice main form/subform.

Then he squealed with delight at being able to use LO Writer to print 
mailing labels from a .csv file.

The fucker is odd.

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#364876

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 8/7/2016 1:34 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>> Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> wrote:
>>> Gentoo, the ONLY distro for REAL men, compiles ALL
>>> of my GNU/Linux software except for a few packages.
>>>
>>> One of those packages is LibreOffice.
>>>
>>
>> Real Men don't need an "office suite," Fagtard.
> 
> 
> The naive Feeb thought it was the height of "advanced db usage" to show 
> parent/child data in a LibreOffice main form/subform.
> 
> Then he squealed with delight at being able to use LO Writer to print 
> mailing labels from a .csv file.
> 
> The fucker is odd.

I meant to tell you earlier that Scribus has a python API that you
might be interested in playing with.

Here's some dabbling (with a bit of csv context):

https://vid.me/lYMe

This is a 1.4 stable release, but I believe the latest version has
more scripting power (can pass arguments and such).

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#364894

On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 03:21:48 +0000, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:

> 
> I meant to tell you earlier that Scribus has a python API that you
> might be interested in playing with.
> 

Hey!

What the fuck for are you fraternizing with this degenerate imbecile?

Hey!  I said what the fuck for?

Do you have mental problems, or are you just a fucking queer?

Huh?

Python?  Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

You should put a Diamondback rattler in his mailbox.  When he reaches
inside to grab his comic books he'll get a dose of venom that would
fell a regiment.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

The paramedics wouldn't go near that foul creep.  Those people
have taste and discrimination.

Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

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#364904

On 8/9/2016 9:09 AM, Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 03:21:48 +0000, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>
>>
>> I meant to tell you earlier that Scribus has a python API that you
>> might be interested in playing with.
>>
>
> Hey!
>
> What the fuck for are you fraternizing with this degenerate imbecile?

Good self-nuke, Feeb.

You do know it's OK to end a sentence with a preposition, right?



> Hey!  I said what the fuck for?
>
> Do you have mental problems, or are you just a fucking queer?
>
> Huh?
>
> Python?  Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha!

wtf?  How can you laugh at an excellent, powerful language like python?



> You should put a Diamondback rattler in his mailbox.  When he reaches
> inside to grab his comic books he'll get a dose of venom that would
> fell a regiment.


'Put snake in mailbox'?  What are you, 12?

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#364912

Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Aug 2016 03:21:48 +0000, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> 
>> 
>> I meant to tell you earlier that Scribus has a python API that you
>> might be interested in playing with.
>> 
> 
> Hey!
> 
> What the fuck for are you fraternizing with this degenerate imbecile?
> 
> Hey!  I said what the fuck for?
> 

You take this shit too seriously, Fabtard.

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#364901

On 8/8/2016 11:21 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>> On 8/7/2016 1:34 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>>> Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> wrote:
>>>> Gentoo, the ONLY distro for REAL men, compiles ALL
>>>> of my GNU/Linux software except for a few packages.
>>>>
>>>> One of those packages is LibreOffice.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Real Men don't need an "office suite," Fagtard.
>>
>>
>> The naive Feeb thought it was the height of "advanced db usage" to show
>> parent/child data in a LibreOffice main form/subform.
>>
>> Then he squealed with delight at being able to use LO Writer to print
>> mailing labels from a .csv file.
>>
>> The fucker is odd.
>
> I meant to tell you earlier that Scribus has a python API that you
> might be interested in playing with.
>
> Here's some dabbling (with a bit of csv context):
>
> https://vid.me/lYMe
>
> This is a 1.4 stable release, but I believe the latest version has
> more scripting power (can pass arguments and such).


Thanks.  What's also nice are the python Excel modules, and pyodbc.



ps I meant to tell you earlier that the Clintons are still killing 
people - or having people killed - left and right.

http://endingthefed.com/man-who-researched-clinton-found-dead-but-his-last-words-are-the-scary-part-video.html


Look at the mouth-breathers in the comments go:

* "Killery has her own 'Hit Squad'"

* "Body count will keep climing Clintons will make sure of that."

* "you young people don't know how many times people died who pissed
     off the clintons I think 60+"


Scary.

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#364909

DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> On 8/8/2016 11:21 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>> On 8/7/2016 1:34 PM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:
>>>> Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> wrote:
>>>>> Gentoo, the ONLY distro for REAL men, compiles ALL
>>>>> of my GNU/Linux software except for a few packages.
>>>>>
>>>>> One of those packages is LibreOffice.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Real Men don't need an "office suite," Fagtard.
>>>
>>>
>>> The naive Feeb thought it was the height of "advanced db usage" to show
>>> parent/child data in a LibreOffice main form/subform.
>>>
>>> Then he squealed with delight at being able to use LO Writer to print
>>> mailing labels from a .csv file.
>>>
>>> The fucker is odd.
>>
>> I meant to tell you earlier that Scribus has a python API that you
>> might be interested in playing with.
>>
>> Here's some dabbling (with a bit of csv context):
>>
>> https://vid.me/lYMe
>>
>> This is a 1.4 stable release, but I believe the latest version has
>> more scripting power (can pass arguments and such).
> 
> 
> Thanks.  What's also nice are the python Excel modules, and pyodbc.
> 

I remember Excel.
 
> 
> ps I meant to tell you earlier that the Clintons are still killing 
> people - or having people killed - left and right.
> 
> http://endingthefed.com/man-who-researched-clinton-found-dead-but-his-last-words-are-the-scary-part-video.html
> 
> 
> Look at the mouth-breathers in the comments go:
> 

In a room full of dead bodies, mouth breathing is the way to go.


> * "Killery has her own 'Hit Squad'"
> 
> * "Body count will keep climing Clintons will make sure of that."
> 
> * "you young people don't know how many times people died who pissed
>     off the clintons I think 60+"
> 
> 
> Scary.
> 

Yes, she is.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z3LrOj3IL0

That video puts this in a whole new light:

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/13/03/353363B000000578-3637968-image-a-100_1465786395940.jpg
 
 

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#364914

On 8/9/2016 10:57 AM, Octavian W. Lagrange wrote:


> I remember Excel.


You should give it thanks and praise;  the decision to hire and how much 
to pay you was made with the help of an Excel spreadsheet.




> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z3LrOj3IL0


More mouth-breathers:


* "Hillary and her supporters are no better than the 9/11 hijackers.
     Hillary and democrats are the new isis"

* "Pulse night club massacre was a staged hoax. Now this bizarre
     "coincidence". This absurdity is all clearly scripted. For what
     purpose who knows."


Do all you mb's know each other?




> That video puts this in a whole new light:
>
> http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/06/13/03/353363B000000578-3637968-image-a-100_1465786395940.jpg


He's a US citizen; our silly laws don't allow for him to be deported or 
even arrested unless it can be proven he knew what his son was going to do.

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#364713

Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:

> Gentoo, the ONLY distro for REAL men, compiles ALL
> of my GNU/Linux software except for a few packages.
> 
> One of those packages is LibreOffice.
> 
> Gentoo wants to pull in icedtea instead of Oracle java
> and that is something, for certain reasons, which I cannot
> allow.  Thus, I am essentially forced to use the binary
> version of LibreOffice from their official repository.
> 
> My minimalist system 

Your minimalist system != bloat for the generic system.

The two are completely different.

> used to be able to accommodate the
> binary OpenOffice, but it does not suffice for the newer
> LibreOffice.  Here is a list of "extra" libraries which
> I have to manually include in the LO binary tree:
> 
> avahi-libs-0.6.31
> cups-libs-2.0.2
> dbus-glib-0.104
> keyutils-libs-1.5.9
> krb5-libs-1.13
> libselinux-2.3
> openssl-libs-1.0.2e
> 
> For what do they need this infernal shit?  I don't need
> a fucking print spooler.

Others might. There are lots of add ons. Like with firefox.
They exist because its needed.
For example, calc that uses GPU to do its maths
in fractions of a second compared to weeks
for microshit.

You can disconnect what you don't need.
But no point in screaming other's don't need it.
You don't speak for everyone.


> I don't need fucking network
> awareness.  So give me a fucking break, assholes.

Pointless ranting.
You don't speak for anyone.

> Well, today I downloaded the latest LO binary release and
> now I need even MORE extra libraries:
> 
> gnutls-3.3.22-1
> libtspi11-0.3.13
> nettle-2.7.1
> p11-kit-0.23.2
> 
> Holy fucking shit!  What the fuck is going on here?
> The package libtspi1 is to implement trusted computing!
> 
> The LO folks seem to be following the unstoppable trend
> of wanting to do everything simply because they CAN.
> But doing something just because one CAN do it is not
> a valid reason.
> 
> I am afraid that before too long I shall have compile LO
> from source MYSELF and remove all that useless cruft.
> 
> That would be best.  LO runs much faster if compiled from
> source.

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#364727

On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 19:49:47 +0000, 7 wrote:

> 
> You can disconnect what you don't need.
> 

Hah!  I'll believe it when I see it.

I'm not going to start a custom build only to discover
three hours into the compile that it doesn't work.

I had that problem with that other bloated piece of
shit known as firefox.

Those assholes will often say that something is optional
when it is really not optional.

Those LO folks should implement the standard Unix source
based on autoconf so that every build is as easy as
configure, make, make install.

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#364734

Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks wrote:

> On Sun, 07 Aug 2016 19:49:47 +0000, 7 wrote:
> 
>> 
>> You can disconnect what you don't need.
>> 
> 
> Hah!  I'll believe it when I see it.
> 
> I'm not going to start a custom build only to discover
> three hours into the compile that it doesn't work.

Then script it and run the script every time
you want your custom set up.

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