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| Started by | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2025-04-17 09:19 +0000 |
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(OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 09:19 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 09:02 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-17 19:41 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 17:48 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 23:09 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 20:46 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-17 21:36 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-18 06:08 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 06:14 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-18 14:46 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-19 09:04 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-19 19:54 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-20 05:02 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-30 09:35 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-30 21:53 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 23:04 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-18 01:38 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 19:25 -0700
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-18 02:45 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 06:23 -0700
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-18 07:00 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-18 10:09 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-18 18:15 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 12:33 -0700
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 20:39 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 20:34 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 13:35 -0700
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-19 00:30 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-19 20:02 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-17 16:05 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 17:49 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-18 14:55 +0100
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-18 10:19 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-19 09:11 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 15:39 +0100
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 07:48 -0700
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:46 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 12:29 -0700
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 23:10 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-18 14:57 +0100
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 20:41 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-18 22:01 +0100
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 21:10 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-18 14:18 -0700
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 07:56 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 14:36 +0100
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:13 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 18:21 +0100
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-19 12:25 -0700
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 04:40 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-21 07:50 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-21 21:52 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-21 21:04 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-22 06:05 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-22 08:51 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 05:12 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-23 07:45 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-04-23 04:38 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 12:46 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-23 08:43 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 12:58 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-24 09:09 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-25 01:22 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-24 21:33 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-25 05:34 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-25 09:26 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 02:37 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-26 07:41 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-26 02:35 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-26 08:08 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 05:55 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 08:14 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-26 07:41 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-26 12:40 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-26 08:58 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:30 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:29 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-27 08:01 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-27 18:46 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-27 14:46 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-27 06:13 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-27 14:37 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 03:25 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 08:36 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 06:39 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 07:20 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 12:23 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 08:52 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-28 19:46 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 16:42 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 03:43 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 09:20 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 20:47 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 17:25 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-29 18:44 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 20:14 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 06:04 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 09:22 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 20:49 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 17:26 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 03:38 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 06:08 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-28 08:24 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 18:33 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 08:43 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-28 18:40 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-28 16:37 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-29 03:20 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 09:18 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-29 20:46 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-29 17:23 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-24 20:00 -0700
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-25 09:25 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-18 22:34 +0100
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-04-19 20:04 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-04-30 18:28 -0500
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 07:53 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 14:36 +0100
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:14 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2025-04-19 18:26 +0100
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:47 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> - 2025-04-19 13:48 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-19 13:15 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-04-20 10:39 -0400
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-20 15:26 +0000
Re: (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-20 09:06 -0700
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 09:19 +0000 |
| Subject | (OT) They're not all crazy in Europe |
| Message-ID | <slrn1001hsm.npd.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
Hungary makes it official: only two genders, end of debate The parliament in Hungary has passed a constitutional amendment recognizing only two genders — male and female. The decision was supported by 140 lawmakers, with 21 voting against and no abstentions. The revised constitution states: "Hungary protects marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and the family as the foundation of the nation. A person is either male or female. A father is a man, a mother is a woman." It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 09:02 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <2_6MP.239407$Xq5f.169566@fx38.iad> |
| In reply to | #689068 |
On 2025-04-17 05:19, RonB wrote: > Hungary makes it official: only two genders, end of debate > > The parliament in Hungary has passed a constitutional amendment recognizing > only two genders — male and female. The decision was supported by 140 > lawmakers, with 21 voting against and no abstentions. > > The revised constitution states: > > "Hungary protects marriage as a union between a man and a woman, and the > family as the foundation of the nation. A person is either male or > female. A father is a man, a mother is a woman." > > It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. > Britain's Supreme Court seems to have to made the same decision. This is great news, particularly for teachers who are caught up in this garbage and forced to refer to obvious females as boys or the opposite. If we don't play along, we can be forced to forfeit our positions. Luckily, I haven't had to face this much over the years. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 19:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <68015962$0$417$426a74cc@news.free.fr> |
| In reply to | #689068 |
Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : > It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill people, which goes against common sense. For your information, I'm pretty sure, you won't believe/understand that: the ADN defines if someone is a man or a woman. So, someone is either: a woman if she has XX chromosomes and a man if he has XY chromosomes. But, the issue is: some people get different combinations. It looks like hard to believe but it's real. OK, woke people tend to say that almost no one is either XX or XY and other combinations are more well spread than they really are. But other combinations exist anyway, your common sense is just an impossibility to see reality as it is. -- Si vous avez du temps à perdre : https://scarpet42.gitlab.io
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 17:48 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <SGeMP.2094336$eNx6.2015934@fx14.iad> |
| In reply to | #689105 |
On 4/17/25 15:41, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: > Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : >> It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. > > It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's > unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill > people, which goes against common sense. Meanwhile, a few dozen thousands of people were hurt or maimed by the vaccine, even according to VAERS. That's only those who survived and managed to report; those who died suddenly didn't get such an honour. Stil, lett's all ignore our friends who had uteran cancer or myocarditis, our resident expert on everything under the sun is telling us we're wrong. < snip braindead government narrative communicated by Stéphane Carpentier > -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 23:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn10032gc.1gth.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689110 |
On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: > On 4/17/25 15:41, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >> Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >> >> It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's >> unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill >> people, which goes against common sense. > > Meanwhile, a few dozen thousands of people were hurt or maimed by the > vaccine, even according to VAERS. That's only those who survived and > managed to report; those who died suddenly didn't get such an honour. > Stil, lett's all ignore our friends who had uteran cancer or > myocarditis, our resident expert on everything under the sun is telling > us we're wrong. > >< snip braindead government narrative communicated by Stéphane Carpentier > There has never been anything like the mass of reports in the VAERS system like the reports on this so-called mRNA "vaccine" compared to any other vaccine. Not even close. To deny this fact is to deny reality. (Unfortunately a lot of gullible idiots are quite capable of denying this obvious, scientific reality and the fact that it clearly shows the harm the covid mRNA "vaccines" have caused.) -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 20:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mhhMP.1922946$2zn8.1417209@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #689116 |
On 4/17/25 19:09, RonB wrote: > On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 4/17/25 15:41, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >>> Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : >>>> It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >>> >>> It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's >>> unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill >>> people, which goes against common sense. >> >> Meanwhile, a few dozen thousands of people were hurt or maimed by the >> vaccine, even according to VAERS. That's only those who survived and >> managed to report; those who died suddenly didn't get such an honour. >> Stil, lett's all ignore our friends who had uteran cancer or >> myocarditis, our resident expert on everything under the sun is telling >> us we're wrong. >> >> < snip braindead government narrative communicated by Stéphane Carpentier > > > There has never been anything like the mass of reports in the VAERS system > like the reports on this so-called mRNA "vaccine" compared to any other > vaccine. Not even close. To deny this fact is to deny reality. > (Unfortunately a lot of gullible idiots are quite capable of denying this > obvious, scientific reality and the fact that it clearly shows the harm the > covid mRNA "vaccines" have caused.) I encourage Stéphane Carpentier to take as many mRNA vaccines as he wishes, until his brain fog is so powerful that he and Larry Pietraskiewicz suddenly start thinking alike. -- God be with you, CrudeSausage LibreOffice supporter John 14:6
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 21:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <370667803.766636299.315435.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #689116 |
RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: > On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 4/17/25 15:41, Stéphane CARPENTIER wrote: >>> Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : >>>> It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >>> >>> It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's >>> unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill >>> people, which goes against common sense. >> >> Meanwhile, a few dozen thousands of people were hurt or maimed by the >> vaccine, even according to VAERS. That's only those who survived and >> managed to report; those who died suddenly didn't get such an honour. >> Stil, lett's all ignore our friends who had uteran cancer or >> myocarditis, our resident expert on everything under the sun is telling >> us we're wrong. >> >> < snip braindead government narrative communicated by Stéphane Carpentier > > > There has never been anything like the mass of reports in the VAERS system > like the reports on this so-called mRNA "vaccine" compared to any other > vaccine. Not even close. To deny this fact is to deny reality. Yes, there were a ton more reports, for two basic reasons. First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a normal or bad flu season/year. Second was that VAERS became known by the public, and was hit with ton of malicious trolling & false reports which flooded the database. > (Unfortunately a lot of gullible idiots are quite capable of denying this > obvious, scientific reality and the fact that it clearly shows the harm the > covid mRNA "vaccines" have caused.) Still claimed by the malicious trolls, yet still never medically substantiated. -hh
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 06:08 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6e8jbFilqmU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689135 |
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 21:36:14 -0500, -hh wrote: > First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. > This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a > normal or bad flu season/year. It as interesting that the mortality rate of the normal seasonal influenza essentially fell to zero.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 06:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1003rdf.21aq.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689141 |
On 2025-04-18, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 21:36:14 -0500, -hh wrote: > >> First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a >> normal or bad flu season/year. > > It as interesting that the mortality rate of the normal seasonal influenza > essentially fell to zero. Yep. And the number of deaths from heart attacks and other diseases also fell. The excess mortality rate didn't shoot up until AFTER the mRNA "vaccine" (kill shot) was released. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 14:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1879423361.766697954.669801.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #689141 |
rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 21:36:14 -0500, -hh wrote: > >> First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a >> normal or bad flu season/year. > > It as interesting that the mortality rate of the normal seasonal influenza > essentially fell to zero. > Yes, because I f what’s now known as”viral interference”. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viral_interference> In a nutshell, not only do viruses evolve to counter our autoimmune systems, but they also have evolved to eliminate/interfere with other viruses within the host which are in competition with them. Classical case of “competitive advantage” that is an obvious strategy once one thinks about it … and finally identifies it, plus it is now being researched. -hh
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-19 09:04 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <51b70kt9e59919l9k4j90n9o4cgisg1vnc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #689141 |
rbowman wrote: > -hh wrote: >> >> First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a >> normal or bad flu season/year. Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and nearly all of them where very old and sick already. >It as interesting that the mortality rate of the normal seasonal influenza >essentially fell to zero. The summary of what happened: https://www.whitehouse.gov/lab-leak-true-origins-of-covid-19/ Download the full report (completed last year, BTW) here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2024.12.04-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT-ANS.pdf
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-19 19:54 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <363006266.766802581.768586.recscuba_google-huntzinger.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #689248 |
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > rbowman wrote: > >> -hh wrote: >>> >>> First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >>> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a >>> normal or bad flu season/year. > > Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and > nearly all of them where very old and sick already. I’ll check on if it was a prediction, or just the topical estimate of worst case. Plus even though there was a mortality peak in older adults, one needs to watch one’s data: most of the medical costs were incurred by the less old who survived… and with a portion who still have ongoing health issues (& costs thereof) to this day. >> It as interesting that the mortality rate of the normal seasonal influenza >> essentially fell to zero. > > The summary of what happened: > > https://www.whitehouse.gov/lab-leak-true-origins-of-covid-19/ That is propaganda. > Download the full report (completed last year, BTW) here: > > https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/04/2024.12.04-SSCP-FINAL-REPORT-ANS.pdf More propaganda by a partisan GOP hack. Note just how thin … and chronically dubious … their explanation attempt is to disregard the Wet Markets as a vector - - all while also admitting that it was found there in humans. The attempt to write it completely off is predicated on not being able to find “the” infected animal weeks later, despite the whole purpose of the market is to distribute animals for sale there. -hh
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-20 05:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6jdfiFe1h3U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689267 |
On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:54:55 -0500, -hh wrote: > chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> rbowman wrote: >> >>> -hh wrote: >>>> >>>> First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >>>> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a >>>> normal or bad flu season/year. >> >> Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and >> nearly all of them where very old and sick already. > > I’ll check on if it was a prediction, or just the topical estimate of > worst case. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-britain-research-f- idUSKBN21415L/ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8294439/ROSS-CLARK-Neil- Fergusons-lockdown-predictions-dodgy.html In the best Mail tradition it leads with a paragraph about Ferguson violating the lockdown for a booty call from a married woman but then documents Ferguson's prior claims that the sky was falling. His model was very popular at the start of the fiasco. A popular Monday morning quarterback ploy when you've fucked the dog royally is 'Oh no, that wasn't a prediction, it was a worse case scenario.' You might want to look up stories about Marion Correctional Institution in Ohio. https://www.wkyc.com/article/news/investigations/new-york-times-ohios- marion-correctional-institution-is-nations-largest-source-of-covid-19- infections/95-33650055-04f2-424d-82ae-9b91b2244236 Between prisoners and staff over 2000 people tested positive for covid most of whom were asymptomatic. Even at the time it was hard to find follow-up stories after the 'everybody is going to die!' headlines but iirc there were under a dozen deaths.
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 09:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vut8ue$795k$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689270 |
On 4/20/25 01:02, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:54:55 -0500, -hh wrote: > >> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> rbowman wrote: >>> >>>> -hh wrote: >>>>> >>>>> First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >>>>> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a >>>>> normal or bad flu season/year. >>> >>> Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and >>> nearly all of them where very old and sick already. >> >> I’ll check on if it was a prediction, or just the topical estimate of >> worst case. > > https://www.reuters... > https://www.dailymail.co.uk/... I've not had COLA posts cited in major media...at least that I know of. > A popular Monday morning quarterback ploy when you've fucked the dog > royally is 'Oh no, that wasn't a prediction, it was a worse case > scenario.' Which is why I want to go read the archives to see precisely what I did say back in 2020, including any/all caveats. I've just gotten back to my desktop today, but you're free to go search through Google Groups from back then too & provide URL cites to help me. -hh
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| From | -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-30 21:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <vuuk6h$1hbir$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #689751 |
On 4/30/25 09:35, -hh wrote: > On 4/20/25 01:02, rbowman wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Apr 2025 19:54:55 -0500, -hh wrote: >> >>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>>> rbowman wrote: >>>> >>>>> -hh wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> First one was a pandemic itself, which killed 1.2 million Americans. >>>>>> This generated far more submissions by health professionals than a >>>>>> normal or bad flu season/year. >>>> >>>> Far less than the 2% that many (such as yourself, IIRC) predicted, and >>>> nearly all of them where very old and sick already. >>> >>> I’ll check on if it was a prediction, or just the topical estimate of >>> worst case. >> >> https://www.reuters... >> https://www.dailymail.co.uk/... > > I've not had COLA posts cited in major media...at least that I know of. > >> A popular Monday morning quarterback ploy when you've fucked the dog >> royally is 'Oh no, that wasn't a prediction, it was a worse case >> scenario.' > > Which is why I want to go read the archives to see precisely what I did > say back in 2020, including any/all caveats. > > I've just gotten back to my desktop today, but you're free to go search > through Google Groups from back then too & provide URL cites to help me. How's your search going? I did find this, which seems to align with chrisv's "2%" bit above: [quote] Interactive timeline chart can be found here: < https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid#how-did-confirmed-deaths-and-cases-change-over-time> TL;DR: USA peaked at 6%; had since declined to 2%.... ...concern is if it will peak again as medical facilities get overwhelmed again. [/quote] <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/qkwJwPssUuE/m/BnFquXMeBAAJ> That's not a prediction, but was a report on actuals. Similarly, much earlier (March 2020) thread: [quote] On Monday, March 16, 2020 at 1:14:33 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote: > -hh wrote: > > ><https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics=/> > > > >From it, the age-based death rates: > > > >80+ years old.. 14.8% > >70-79 years old 8.0% > >60-69 years old 3.6% > >50-59 years old 1.3% > >40-49 years old 0.4% > >10-39 years old 0.2% > > > >Using the above, consider how many older members of one's own > >family are in these higher risk Age groups: 50+, 60+, 70+ ... > > > >Ditto for the people you work with, know through church, > >friends, neighbors, etc. Its not all that hard for a > >parent to quickly count 200-300 folks that they know of > >comparable (and typically older) age. For example, if you > >know just 25-30 people in their 60s, because their mortality > >rate is 3.6%, that means one death for each ~27 you know. > > I'm in my 50's, but don't know many people who are significantly > older. One brother, in his 60's, and that's about it. My siblings are all older and 60+; its probably why I've generally related to older (music and) people. It does seem that a good number of old classmates & friends are starting to retire, or at least hit their 60th birthday milestone. Another lump are some longtime friends from the BITNET era, many of which (if they're still kicking) are 70+. Things like church congregations can get modeled by using the applicable subgroups. > Of course, the mortality rates, above, are for those who > actually get the coronavirus, and not everyone will... Sure, and estimates vary pretty widely; the rates I've seen in print have been as high as 80%, although appear to more often be in the "40% to 70% range" as per the below cite: <https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/02/covid-vaccine/607000/> Keeping in mind that the strategy of interventions such as social separation, while is predominantly to slow the near-term rate (to prevent healthcare from being overwhelmed), will probably reduce overall exposure rates as well. But it should run generally higher in more connected societies, so its hard to say just where it will finally shake out after ~2 years. Personally, I don't think that a 50%-66% rate is at all unrealistic for the USA. That would suggest that the rate for age 60-69 would go from "1 in 27" to "1 in 40". [/quote] <https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.linux.advocacy/c/C40pel_Xg6o/m/hfyi2ccbAgAJ> ..which is also a report on actual case mortality rates. And we can see the much longer longitudinal now here:, for Sept 2020 through May 2023, when the US apparently stopped providing this data. I'm not sure if there's a grand total average, but the TL;DR is that there were many weeks above 1%, multiple weeks above 2%, and even a 3.5% peak which IMO might be a data reporting anomaly: <https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid#how-did-confirmed-deaths-and-cases-change-over-time> The only prediction from me in the above was for ages 60-69 and it was an expectation that the eventual mortality rate for this age group was likely to decline from current. -hh
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 23:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrn1003279.1gth.ronb02NOSPAM@3020m.home> |
| In reply to | #689105 |
On 2025-04-17, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote: > Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : >> It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. > > It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's > unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill > people, which goes against common sense. > > For your information, I'm pretty sure, you won't believe/understand > that: the ADN defines if someone is a man or a woman. So, someone is > either: a woman if she has XX chromosomes and a man if he has XY > chromosomes. But, the issue is: some people get different combinations. > It looks like hard to believe but it's real. OK, woke people tend to say > that almost no one is either XX or XY and other combinations are more > well spread than they really are. But other combinations exist anyway, > your common sense is just an impossibility to see reality as it is. Why do those who want to argue against common sense always refer to a tiny, minute number of medical exceptions and claim this should apply to the vast majority of cases? This rule obviously applies to a normal person with an XX or XY chromosome who pretends to be the opposite sex or mutilates themself in a futile attempt to be what they aren't. If a woman really thinks she is a man, or a man really thinks he is a woman, he or she needs to see a psychiatrist, not a medical doctor. Only an idiot would deny the scientific fact that a man can not be a woman and a woman can not be a man. But moronic politicians have actually passed laws that make it a crime to deny that a man can have a baby. And they call this incredible stupidity, "science." Hopefully you're not one who believes this idiocy and buys into this imaginary, non-scientific, alternate "reality." -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 01:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6doojFakj4U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689105 |
On 17 Apr 2025 19:41:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote in <68015962$0$417$426a74cc@news.free.fr>: > Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : >> It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. > > It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's > unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill > people, which goes against common sense. > > For your information, I'm pretty sure, you won't believe/understand > that: the ADN defines if someone is a man or a woman. So, someone is > either: a woman if she has XX chromosomes and a man if he has XY > chromosomes. But, the issue is: some people get different combinations. > It looks like hard to believe but it's real. OK, woke people tend to say > that almost no one is either XX or XY and other combinations are more > well spread than they really are. But other combinations exist anyway, > your common sense is just an impossibility to see reality as it is. There are biological women with XY chromosomes that were born female, and didn't even know about the XY. Some have even carried babies to term. It happens. Do you feel threatened by that? -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.14.2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G "Space is an illusion, disk space doubly so."
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 19:25 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <83ydnR8EDr-RJZz1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #689131 |
vallor wrote: > On 17 Apr 2025 19:41:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> wrote > in <68015962$0$417$426a74cc@news.free.fr>: > >> Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : >>> It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >> >> It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's >> unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill >> people, which goes against common sense. >> >> For your information, I'm pretty sure, you won't believe/understand >> that: the ADN defines if someone is a man or a woman. So, someone is >> either: a woman if she has XX chromosomes and a man if he has XY >> chromosomes. But, the issue is: some people get different combinations. >> It looks like hard to believe but it's real. OK, woke people tend to say >> that almost no one is either XX or XY and other combinations are more >> well spread than they really are. But other combinations exist anyway, >> your common sense is just an impossibility to see reality as it is. > > There are biological women with XY chromosomes that were born female, > and didn't even know about the XY. Some have even carried babies > to term. > > It happens. Do you feel threatened by that? > its a good thing you got linux so you can post in usenet
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| From | vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 02:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <m6dsmtFakj4U3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #689133 |
On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 19:25:18 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in <83ydnR8EDr-RJZz1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>: > vallor wrote: >> On 17 Apr 2025 19:41:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> >> wrote in <68015962$0$417$426a74cc@news.free.fr>: >> >>> Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : >>>> It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >>> >>> It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's >>> unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill >>> people, which goes against common sense. >>> >>> For your information, I'm pretty sure, you won't believe/understand >>> that: the ADN defines if someone is a man or a woman. So, someone is >>> either: a woman if she has XX chromosomes and a man if he has XY >>> chromosomes. But, the issue is: some people get different >>> combinations. It looks like hard to believe but it's real. OK, woke >>> people tend to say that almost no one is either XX or XY and other >>> combinations are more well spread than they really are. But other >>> combinations exist anyway, your common sense is just an impossibility >>> to see reality as it is. >> >> There are biological women with XY chromosomes that were born female, >> and didn't even know about the XY. Some have even carried babies to >> term. >> >> It happens. Do you feel threatened by that? >> > its a good thing you got linux so you can post in usenet I would daresay Usenet _runs_ on Linux. (Or maybe some BSD too, but mostly Linux.) It's a good thing you have an Open Source, Free Software client to post to Usenet, Windows-weenie. /s -- -v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti OS: Linux 6.14.2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G "I haven't lost my mind, I know exactly where I left it."
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| From | % <pursent100@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-18 06:23 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <PYudnWffIcWgz5_1nZ2dnZfqn_qdnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #689137 |
vallor wrote: > On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 19:25:18 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in > <83ydnR8EDr-RJZz1nZ2dnZfqnPudnZ2d@giganews.com>: > >> vallor wrote: >>> On 17 Apr 2025 19:41:22 GMT, Stéphane CARPENTIER <sc@fiat-linux.fr> >>> wrote in <68015962$0$417$426a74cc@news.free.fr>: >>> >>>> Le 17-04-2025, RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> a écrit : >>>>> It's amazing that common sense has to be codified in this Woke world. >>>> >>>> It's amazing how some late people can't understand science. It's >>>> unsurprising you can believe that vaccine can be designed to kill >>>> people, which goes against common sense. >>>> >>>> For your information, I'm pretty sure, you won't believe/understand >>>> that: the ADN defines if someone is a man or a woman. So, someone is >>>> either: a woman if she has XX chromosomes and a man if he has XY >>>> chromosomes. But, the issue is: some people get different >>>> combinations. It looks like hard to believe but it's real. OK, woke >>>> people tend to say that almost no one is either XX or XY and other >>>> combinations are more well spread than they really are. But other >>>> combinations exist anyway, your common sense is just an impossibility >>>> to see reality as it is. >>> >>> There are biological women with XY chromosomes that were born female, >>> and didn't even know about the XY. Some have even carried babies to >>> term. >>> >>> It happens. Do you feel threatened by that? >>> >> its a good thing you got linux so you can post in usenet > > I would daresay Usenet _runs_ on Linux. (Or maybe some BSD > too, but mostly Linux.) > > It's a good thing you have an Open Source, Free Software client > to post to Usenet, Windows-weenie. /s > more complaints
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