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| Started by | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| First post | 2025-01-07 22:20 -0500 |
| Last post | 2025-01-08 09:15 -0500 |
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I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-07 22:20 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-07 22:53 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:17 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 12:21 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 14:11 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 14:21 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-09 07:06 -0600
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> - 2025-01-09 13:43 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:36 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 06:34 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:20 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 21:26 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 08:47 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-08 12:18 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-08 21:22 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 01:02 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 08:48 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 10:01 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-09 11:11 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-09 11:47 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-09 18:37 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 13:52 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 00:19 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 06:51 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 20:54 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-10 09:06 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-10 10:28 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 11:25 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 11:37 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-10 20:59 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:06 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 02:53 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 02:12 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-10 16:24 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-12 06:43 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 09:14 +0000
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-01-09 07:42 -0500
Re: I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:15 -0500
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2025-01-07 22:20 -0500 |
| Subject | I asked System76 if they would sell a Windows system |
| Message-ID | <vlkqun$2g1iq$10@dont-email.me> |
"Hi DFS, Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current kernel will most likely work well. We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty here: https://system76.com/warranty. I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail about using Windows on our systems: https://support.system76.com/articles/windows Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else. Sincerely, Bill" That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a trustworthy company.
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vasrnj9umttlhqhpaccavt7sqpo571fo84@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #683322 |
DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: >"Hi DFS, > >Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only >installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome >to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your >warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current >kernel will most likely work well. > >We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do >offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if >there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of >shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty >here: https://system76.com/warranty. > >I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail >about using Windows on our systems: > >https://support.system76.com/articles/windows > >Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else. >Sincerely, > >Bill" > > >That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a >trustworthy company. They're good but would cost more than a self-build I presume. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2025-01-07 22:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vlkss0$2g1iq$11@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #683325 |
On 1/7/2025 10:31 PM, Joel wrote: > DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: > >> "Hi DFS, >> >> Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only >> installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome >> to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your >> warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current >> kernel will most likely work well. >> >> We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do >> offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if >> there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of >> shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty >> here: https://system76.com/warranty. >> >> I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail >> about using Windows on our systems: >> >> https://support.system76.com/articles/windows >> >> Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else. >> Sincerely, >> >> Bill" >> >> >> That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a >> trustworthy company. > > > They're good but would cost more than a self-build I presume. That System76 ARM system we were talking about recently starts at $3300 and maxes out at $23600. The upgrades from the base specs cost more than retail, but not too bad. https://system76.com/desktops/thelio-astra-a1-n1/configure Here's a really good 3rd party review: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AshDjtlV6go
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 09:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6OvfP.69559$zX7.58606@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #683325 |
On 2025-01-07 22:31, Joel wrote: > DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: > >> "Hi DFS, >> >> Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only >> installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome >> to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your >> warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current >> kernel will most likely work well. >> >> We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do >> offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if >> there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of >> shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty >> here: https://system76.com/warranty. >> >> I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail >> about using Windows on our systems: >> >> https://support.system76.com/articles/windows >> >> Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else. >> Sincerely, >> >> Bill" >> >> >> That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a >> trustworthy company. > > > They're good but would cost more than a self-build I presume. Usually, desktops are less expensive if you buy them pre-built. They're released a few articles on that already and shown that buying a pre-built gaming machine, for example, will cost you less than building one yourself _unless_ you already have a few parts and don't intend to replace them. -- CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 12:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6tctnjdjq724v2dhuth3oituud648nl88e@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #683361 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >On 2025-01-07 22:31, Joel wrote: >> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: >> >>> "Hi DFS, >>> >>> Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only >>> installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome >>> to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your >>> warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current >>> kernel will most likely work well. >>> >>> We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do >>> offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if >>> there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of >>> shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty >>> here: https://system76.com/warranty. >>> >>> I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail >>> about using Windows on our systems: >>> >>> https://support.system76.com/articles/windows >>> >>> Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else. >>> Sincerely, >>> >>> Bill" >>> >>> >>> That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a >>> trustworthy company. >> >> They're good but would cost more than a self-build I presume. > >Usually, desktops are less expensive if you buy them pre-built. They're >released a few articles on that already and shown that buying a >pre-built gaming machine, for example, will cost you less than building >one yourself _unless_ you already have a few parts and don't intend to >replace them. Since I initially used CPU video, I saved by building, more quality for the money, and when I did move to a video card I bought an inexpensive one. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 14:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <c5AfP.63892$oCrf.22253@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #683387 |
On 2025-01-08 12:21, Joel wrote: > CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >> On 2025-01-07 22:31, Joel wrote: >>> DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> wrote: >>> >>>> "Hi DFS, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your interest in our products! While System76 only >>>> installs, tests, and supports Ubuntu and Pop!_OS, customers are welcome >>>> to install other operating systems on our hardware without voiding your >>>> warranty. We test against the Linux kernel, and distros with a current >>>> kernel will most likely work well. >>>> >>>> We can't guarantee that other distros will function at 100% but we do >>>> offer a 30 day limited money back guarantee on all purchases, so if >>>> there's an issue you can return for a full refund minus the cost of >>>> shipping and any damages. You can find more details about our warranty >>>> here: https://system76.com/warranty. >>>> >>>> I am also including a link to a support article that goes into detail >>>> about using Windows on our systems: >>>> >>>> https://support.system76.com/articles/windows >>>> >>>> Thanks again and please let us know if you need anything else. >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Bill" >>>> >>>> >>>> That support article is actually very very good. Seems like a >>>> trustworthy company. >>> >>> They're good but would cost more than a self-build I presume. >> >> Usually, desktops are less expensive if you buy them pre-built. They're >> released a few articles on that already and shown that buying a >> pre-built gaming machine, for example, will cost you less than building >> one yourself _unless_ you already have a few parts and don't intend to >> replace them. > > > Since I initially used CPU video, I saved by building, more quality > for the money, and when I did move to a video card I bought an > inexpensive one. I looked at the costs of decent GPUs on the PC and I don't blame you for not paying what they're asking. -- CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 14:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <9tjtnjpe15fltf1skg340lntpctsasekvb@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #683402 |
CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote: >>> Usually, desktops are less expensive if you buy them pre-built. They're >>> released a few articles on that already and shown that buying a >>> pre-built gaming machine, for example, will cost you less than building >>> one yourself _unless_ you already have a few parts and don't intend to >>> replace them. >> >> Since I initially used CPU video, I saved by building, more quality >> for the money, and when I did move to a video card I bought an >> inexpensive one. > >I looked at the costs of decent GPUs on the PC and I don't blame you for >not paying what they're asking. Buying a modern video card is very costly, but the one I got is not expensive and delivers good performance, wouldn't handle a lot of games, but that's irrelevant to me. -- Joel W. Crump Amendment XIV Section 1. [...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent. States are liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 07:06 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <t9ivnjh0d04bfou0gk167cd9ib6363jpj3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #683402 |
CrudeSausage wrote: >I looked at the costs of decent GPUs on the PC and I don't blame you for >not paying what they're asking. My future son-in-law has given me his GTX 1080 Ti, for my new PC build. It's obviously far from new, but is still viable for many modern games.
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| From | Farley Flud <fsquared@fsquared.linux> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 13:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <18190a0ce74ba03a$98486$32720$802601b3@news.usenetexpress.com> |
| In reply to | #683465 |
On Thu, 09 Jan 2025 07:06:10 -0600, chrisv wrote: > > My future son-in-law has given me his GTX 1080 Ti, for my new PC build. > It's obviously far from new, but is still viable for many modern games. > Before you accept, you should look at the GPU specs which for this card is the GP102 based on the Pascal architecture. The GP102 has NVENC 4th Gen and NVDEC 8th Gen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nvidia_NVENC#Fourth_generation,_Pascal_GP10x https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Nvidia_PureVideo#The_eighth_generation_PureVideo_HD The specs are not bad and with GNU/Linux ffmpeg can bring out the best. On Microslop most software uses ffmpeg anyway because Microslop has nothing to offer. Anything before Pascal, however, should be rejected. -- Hail Linux! Hail FOSS! Hail Stallman!
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 10:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <M1SfP.74679$vfee.44897@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #683465 |
On 2025-01-09 08:06, chrisv wrote: > CrudeSausage wrote: > >> I looked at the costs of decent GPUs on the PC and I don't blame you for >> not paying what they're asking. > > My future son-in-law has given me his GTX 1080 Ti, for my new PC > build. It's obviously far from new, but is still viable for many > modern games. I was using a much less powerful 970M until 2021 quite comfortably (with some compromises). I imagine that there are lots of going which will run quite well even to this day on the 1080Ti. -- CrudeSausage Gab: @CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 06:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vll6aj$2lpqv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #683322 |
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: > ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our > hardware without voiding your warranty. Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off.
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 09:20 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <DQvfP.69560$zX7.53005@fx37.iad> |
| In reply to | #683331 |
On 2025-01-08 01:34, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: > >> ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >> hardware without voiding your warranty. > > Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off. Not really. There are benefits to using Pop_OS! on a System76 machine, notably the software they bundle for power management. However, many people might not feel that they need them, and the machine should work just as well with something like OpenMandriva. -- CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 21:26 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vlmqia$2vb42$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #683362 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:20:19 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-01-08 01:34, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: >> >>> ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >>> hardware without voiding your warranty. >> >> Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off. > > Not really. Think about what they *didn’t* say: they didn’t offer to preinstall Windows for the customer, or even to include a copy of Windows in the box. They don’t guarantee that Windows will even work. So all the risk is up to the customer. It’s up to you to get your own copy of Windows -- and remember, it can’t be an OEM copy, it’s got to be a full retail-priced copy. And if it doesn’t work? Can you take your Windows copy back to where you bought it and demand a refund? Good luck with getting the shop to understand that there are x86-based machines out there that are not fully Windows-compatible!
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 08:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vlo2e8$39f61$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #683416 |
On 2025-01-08, Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:20:19 -0500, CrudeSausage wrote: > >> On 2025-01-08 01:34, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: >>> >>>> ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >>>> hardware without voiding your warranty. >>> >>> Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off. >> >> Not really. > > Think about what they *didn’t* say: they didn’t offer to preinstall > Windows for the customer, or even to include a copy of Windows in the box. > They don’t guarantee that Windows will even work. > > So all the risk is up to the customer. It’s up to you to get your own copy > of Windows -- and remember, it can’t be an OEM copy, it’s got to be a full > retail-priced copy. And if it doesn’t work? Can you take your Windows copy > back to where you bought it and demand a refund? Good luck with getting > the shop to understand that there are x86-based machines out there that > are not fully Windows-compatible! Imagine... one Open Source company treats their customers like EVERY Windows based company. The "shame" of it all! -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 12:18 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vlmc0g$2s93h$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #683331 |
On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: > >> ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >> hardware without voiding your warranty. > > Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off. I wonder how many requests they get for Windows. It's got to be in the millions.
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-08 21:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vlmq9s$2vb42$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #683384 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:18:11 -0500, DFS wrote: > On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: >> >>> ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >>> hardware without voiding your warranty. >> >> Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off. > > I wonder how many requests they get for Windows. > > It's got to be in the millions. Enough to make a profitable business out of Windows? With so many other vendors already struggling? Not likely.
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 01:02 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lu8lgnFj3pqU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #683384 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:18:11 -0500, DFS wrote: > On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: >> >>> ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >>> hardware without voiding your warranty. >> >> Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off. > > > I wonder how many requests they get for Windows. > > It's got to be in the millions. System 76? Given the wealth of choices for Windows machines why would anyone, except DFS, approach a vendor whose raison d'être is providing Linux machines asking for Windows? Do you order a steak in a seafood restaurant?
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 08:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vlo2gq$39f61$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #683435 |
On 2025-01-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:18:11 -0500, DFS wrote: > >> On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: >>> >>>> ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >>>> hardware without voiding your warranty. >>> >>> Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off. >> >> >> I wonder how many requests they get for Windows. >> >> It's got to be in the millions. > > System 76? Given the wealth of choices for Windows machines why would > anyone, except DFS, approach a vendor whose raison d'être is providing > Linux machines asking for Windows? Do you order a steak in a seafood > restaurant? DuFuS always clutches at straws in his lame attempts to denigrate Linux. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 10:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <yxRfP.66872$2xE6.35071@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #683453 |
On 2025-01-09 03:48, RonB wrote: > On 2025-01-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:18:11 -0500, DFS wrote: >> >>> On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: >>>> >>>>> ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >>>>> hardware without voiding your warranty. >>>> >>>> Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off. >>> >>> >>> I wonder how many requests they get for Windows. >>> >>> It's got to be in the millions. >> >> System 76? Given the wealth of choices for Windows machines why would >> anyone, except DFS, approach a vendor whose raison d'être is providing >> Linux machines asking for Windows? Do you order a steak in a seafood >> restaurant? > > DuFuS always clutches at straws in his lame attempts to denigrate Linux. Admittedly, I don't see why a person intending to use Windows would complain that System76 or ThinkPenguin isn't catering to them. -- CrudeSausage Gab: @CrudeSausage Unapologetic paleoconservative
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2025-01-09 11:11 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vlosg3$3e619$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #683482 |
On 1/9/2025 10:01 AM, CrudeSausage wrote: > On 2025-01-09 03:48, RonB wrote: >> On 2025-01-09, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: >>> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 12:18:11 -0500, DFS wrote: >>> >>>> On 1/8/2025 1:34 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>>> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 22:20:56 -0500, DFS wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> ... customers are welcome to install other operating systems on our >>>>>> hardware without voiding your warranty. >>>>> >>>>> Well, that’s one polite way to tell you to piss off. >>>> >>>> >>>> I wonder how many requests they get for Windows. >>>> >>>> It's got to be in the millions. >>> >>> System 76? Given the wealth of choices for Windows machines why would >>> anyone, except DFS, approach a vendor whose raison d'être is providing >>> Linux machines asking for Windows? Do you order a steak in a seafood >>> restaurant? >> >> DuFuS always clutches at straws in his lame attempts to denigrate Linux. > > Admittedly, I don't see why a person intending to use Windows would > complain that System76 or ThinkPenguin isn't catering to them. I wasn't complaining. I was curious if they would sell a Windows system. Thru the years I've asked 6 or 8 Windows PC vendors if they would sell Linux preinstalls.
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