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  Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-27 14:36 -0700
    Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-27 19:05 -0400
    Toss a rock up, and it "remembers" to come down. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-27 16:23 -0700
    Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-05-02 15:47 -0500
      Re: Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 13:53 -0700
      Gravity is SpaceTime, the 4D TimeScape; it's everywhere, always. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-02 14:30 -0700
        Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-05-03 01:11 -0700

#449308 — Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

> > There is nothing (no thing) into which space is expanding. This is an
> > expansion of the entire universe, so there can be nothing outside of it.
> 
> I can't believe what I'm reading here, on this platform, in this forum.
> It has to be another paradox.  Your "nothing" stands for 
> the ABSENCE of time and space.  You can't expand anything along that.

13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
[ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]

Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
but none of the eXergy.

Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
  Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal, 
perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.

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#449316

On 4/27/2018 5:36 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>> There is nothing (no thing) into which space is expanding. This is an
>>> expansion of the entire universe, so there can be nothing outside of it.
>>
>> I can't believe what I'm reading here, on this platform, in this forum.
>> It has to be another paradox.  Your "nothing" stands for
>> the ABSENCE of time and space.  You can't expand anything along that.
> 
> 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
> was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
> [ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]
> 
> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> but none of the eXergy.
> 
> Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
> 
> All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
>    Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

Rolf, there is no doubt that you are VERY random!

> General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal,
> perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.
> 

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#449318 — Toss a rock up, and it "remembers" to come down.

MrAA replied ( to me ):
> > Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
> 
> The universe has no memory.

Figuratively speaking, 
toss a rock up, and it "remembers" to come down.

You think gravity is a sucking force, like a vacuum cleaner, no ?

> > We're consumers.  The only difference between us and the sun
> > is what we consume, when and how.

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#450102

On 4/27/2018 4:36 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>> There is nothing (no thing) into which space is expanding. This is an
>>> expansion of the entire universe, so there can be nothing outside of it.
>>
>> I can't believe what I'm reading here, on this platform, in this forum.
>> It has to be another paradox.  Your "nothing" stands for 
>> the ABSENCE of time and space.  You can't expand anything along that.
> 
> 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
> was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
> [ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]
> 
> Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
> leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> but none of the eXergy.
> 
> Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.

so, where there is no gravity,
there is no memory where stuff is,
it is Lost in Space.

> 
> All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
>   Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.

randomness is a human concept, only humans decide what is random.

> 
> General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal, 
> perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.
> 

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#450103

On Wednesday, May 2, 2018 at 1:47:21 PM UTC-7, Sergio wrote:
> On 4/27/2018 4:36 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> >>> There is nothing (no thing) into which space is expanding. This is an
> >>> expansion of the entire universe, so there can be nothing outside of it.
> >>
> >> I can't believe what I'm reading here, on this platform, in this forum.
> >> It has to be another paradox.  Your "nothing" stands for 
> >> the ABSENCE of time and space.  You can't expand anything along that.
> > 
> > 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
> > was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
> > [ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]
> > 
> > Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
> > leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> > but none of the eXergy.
> > 
> > Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
> 
> so, where there is no gravity,
> there is no memory where stuff is,
> it is Lost in Space.
> 
> > 
> > All of history, every lesson ever, every advance, tells us:
> >   Randomness is ignorance, nothing more.
> 
> randomness is a human concept, only humans decide what is random.
> 
> > 
> > General Relativity's four dimensional TimeScape is static, eternal, 
> > perfectly causal... it is, at once, everything _and_ nothing.
> >



The herd members value the lowest common denominator instead of choice. Hope The Underground Marshmallow Person likes the accommodations in the teeming septic tank of my kill filter. 

i3wm is clearly my second favorite DE and the only one I advocate to Windows converts. Primary interface is Trinity, though. A large number of core applications is all you want after you install it. 

Elementary OS is only cost effective if your time has no value. That's what The Underground Marshmallow Person does when he gets mad. He always creates a flood, starts a cross posted thread so he can claim it was an accident. Don't blame me it was my left hand... and then he talks to his own post with his right hand. Anyway, it doesn't matter because the FROM line on a post does not matter, it's the content that counts. 



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#450114 — Gravity is SpaceTime, the 4D TimeScape; it's everywhere, always.

> > 13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
> > was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.
> > [ eXergy is a type of energy that can do physical work, force * distance ]
> > 
> > Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
> > leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
> > but none of the eXergy.
> > 
> > Gravity is the "memory" of where the stuff was.
> 
> so, where there is no gravity,
> there is no memory where stuff is; it's Lost in Space.

Gravity is SpaceTime, the 4D TimeScape; it's everywhere, always.

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#450183 — Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ?

> > Gravity is SpaceTime, the 4D TimeScape; it's everywhere, always.
> 
> Wrong.  Gravity is the curvature of spacetime, 
> caused by mass-energy present.

Where/When is there no Energy/Matter ?

Einstein wrote:

  Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter.

13.8 billion years ago, everything in the (subjectively) Known Universe
was in the same location; i.e. zero entropy and infinite density/exergy.

Eventually, this eXergy will be consumed away, replaced with entropy;
leaving us with a uniform heat bath that has all of the energy
but none of the eXergy.

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