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  I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 00:39 -0700
    Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 05:55 -0700
    Start Killer (StartKiller.COM) removes Win10's Start Button. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 08:26 -0700
    Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-04 08:44 -0700
    Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 17:07 +0000
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 12:22 -0500
        You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:39 -0700
          Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:20 +0000
          Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:46 -0700
            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-04 17:53 -0400
              Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:11 -0700
                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-04 18:57 -0400
                  Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:15 -0700
                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-04 21:00 -0400
                    Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 18:50 -0700
            Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 07:56 -0400
              "The Bachelor" (on the TV show) is a prissy bottom. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 10:45 -0700
            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:06 +0000
              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:13 -0400
                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:31 +0000
                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:06 -0400
                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:26 +0200
                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:29 -0400
                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 15:42 +0000
                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:00 -0400
                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 16:11 +0000
                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:37 -0400
                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 18:51 +0200
                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 12:59 -0400
                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 19:04 +0200
                                      Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 17:48 +0000
                                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 20:07 +0200
                                          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 18:09 +0000
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:26 -0400
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:30 +0000
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 12:44 -0700
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:50 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-05 16:26 -0400
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-05 16:38 -0400
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 14:13 -0700
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-08-05 15:47 -0700
                                        Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:23 -0700
                                        Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:28 -0500
                                          Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:33 +0000
                                            Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:40 -0500
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 15:55 -0400
                                                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 13:51 -0700
                                              Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 20:33 +0000
                                  Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-05 15:57 -0400
                                    Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 17:09 -0400
                      What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-05 11:17 -0700
                        Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 14:31 -0400
                          Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:45 +0000
                        Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dali used both. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 19:35 +0000
              Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 09:21 -0500
                Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-08-05 17:02 +0200
                  Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 11:26 -0400
          Show us your source code. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:29 -0700
        Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 01:38 -0400
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 13:46 -0400
      Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 11:31 -0700
        I'm watching you right now. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 14:19 -0700
          Ubuntu Spyware: What to do? Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 17:41 -0700
        Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 15:21 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 22:37 +0000
            I prefer no Jeff-Relf.Me! John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 04:02 -0700
          Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-08-05 08:11 -0400
            Re: Replacing Win10's Start Menu. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-08-05 10:10 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 11:58 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-08-04 14:34 -0500
        Indirectly, you (chrisv) see my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2015-08-04 12:46 -0700
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-04 16:57 -0400
      Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-05 06:54 -0400

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#312698 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On 08/05/2015 12:30 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:26:06 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> 
>>
>> When all you know is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.
>>
> 
> That's because at the machine level, which is where all this abstract
> shit finally ends up, all you have are nails.
> 
> I began programming in machine language and I will stay in machine
> language until I croak.  That's because the machine is all that
> there is.  Everything else is someone else's sick hallucination.
> 
> Every time I peruse someones high level code, and especially OO,
> I literally cringe.  What kind of insane idiot would ever want to
> do things that way?  These OO motherfuckers are perhaps the stupidest
> of the stupid.
> 
> Even C, which is very close to the machine, has its insane drawbacks.
> 
> Recently I was converting some 32-bit C code to make it run on
> 64-bit machines. This is how the original author chose to access
> certain structure fields:
> 
> (*(imageType**)&(image)->clientData[0])
> 
> ((imageType*)(image))->primaryX=(x)
> 
> What kind of brain-dead jackass moron would ever want to write such
> lunatic pointer constructions?
> 
> These fools have their heads in the clouds, or perhaps I should
> say they have their heads up their fucking assess.
> 
> Only an insane idiot overlays a simple machine with layer upon
> layer of useless abstractions.
> 
> You are just another brainwashed, deluded idiot that is emotionally
> supported by a community of brainwashed, deluded idiots.
> 

Looks like a classic example of Poe's Law.

(What does this have to do with cola or sci.physics?)

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#312593 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 11:48:15 AM UTC-6, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 19:04:38 +0200, Melzzzzz wrote:
> 
> >
> > Actually OO is much harder to design,program and understand then C &
> > assembler.
> >
> 
> Can God make a rock so heavy that he can't lift it?
> 
> Well, man has succeeded in making a programming language so
> needlessly complex that he can't fully utilize it.
> 
> I stress the term "needlessly."  Higher orders of useless abstraction
> seems to be the new testosterone supplement.

If it's truly useless but you seem to be painting with a pretty broad brush.

> > C is so popular because of it's simplicity to learn and grasp.
> >
> 
> Thus greatly relieving the programmer and allowing him to focus
> on problem analysis which is the essence of programming.  Coding
> is only, at best, a secondary activity.
> 
> Anything that can be done in C++ can be done in C.  There is
> absolutely no need for it.

Other than saving time, perhaps. If only the perfect world existed where you could program all day and there were no business constraints, no reality to have to deal with... sigh.

> After all, an "object" is only a glorified (deified?) subroutine.

LOL! Remind me again why 'good programmers' were unable to solve the problem of those nagging realities that stood in their way... in other words,  why "the essence of programming" failed them  ;)

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#312597 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On 8/5/15 12:48 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> Well, man has succeeded in making a programming language so
> needlessly complex that he can't fully utilize it.

   Ah ha -- the truth comes out -- to hard for you!

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#312621 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:28:29 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

> 
>    Ah ha -- the truth comes out -- to hard for you!
>

Fuck you, idiot.  You fail to grasp any kind of rational elaboration
that goes beyond two sentences.

Incidentally, the correct spelling is "too" and not "to."

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#312627 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On 8/5/15 2:33 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:28:29 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>
>>
>>     Ah ha -- the truth comes out -- to hard for you!
>>
>
> Fuck you, idiot.  You fail to grasp any kind of rational elaboration
> that goes beyond two sentences.
>
> Incidentally, the correct spelling is "too" and not "to."
>
>


   Nevertheless, the truth comes out -- too hard for you! Nice attempt
   to avoid the truth.



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#312634 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

"Sam Wormley" <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:mJKdnVuZZ4Na-1_InZ2dnUU7-VudnZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 8/5/15 2:33 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 13:28:29 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>     Ah ha -- the truth comes out -- to hard for you!
>>>
>>
>> Fuck you, idiot.  You fail to grasp any kind of rational elaboration
>> that goes beyond two sentences.
>>
>> Incidentally, the correct spelling is "too" and not "to."
>>
>>
>
>
>   Nevertheless, the truth comes out -- too hard for you! Nice attempt
>   to avoid the truth.
>

He's some senile old fool that's stuck living in the past.

Poor Fabian is too stupid to learn new tools and techniques. So he's stuck 
in some dead-end job using the same tools that people used back in the 
1970's and 80's.  I bet that his Betamax player is soooo much better than a 
modern Tivo.

The world has passed him by. Some are able to adapt. Others become extinct.

-- 
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It is only arranging predetermined classes like a child will arrange toy
blocks."

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#312658 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:55:14 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> 
> Poor Fabian is too stupid to learn new tools and techniques. So he's stuck 
> in some dead-end job using the same tools that people used back in the 
> 1970's and 80's.
>

I would hardly call cache hit/miss management, pipelining, and
parallelism vestiges of the 1980's.  In fact assembly language
programming for full utilization of the processor potential,
and especially concerning SSE/AVX parallelism, is vastly more
difficult to master that cheap OO coding.

But Ezekiel is brainwashed.  He has been conditioned to believe
that machine language is passe when it actually is at the forefront
and the bleeding edge.

Try it sometime.

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#312665 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 2:28:37 PM UTC-6, Fabian Russell wrote:
> On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 15:55:14 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Poor Fabian is too stupid to learn new tools and techniques. So he's stuck 
> > in some dead-end job using the same tools that people used back in the 
> > 1970's and 80's.
> >
> 
> I would hardly call cache hit/miss management, pipelining, and
> parallelism vestiges of the 1980's.  In fact assembly language
> programming for full utilization of the processor potential,
> and especially concerning SSE/AVX parallelism, is vastly more
> difficult to master that cheap OO coding.
> 
> But Ezekiel is brainwashed.  He has been conditioned to believe
> that machine language is passe when it actually is at the forefront
> and the bleeding edge.
> 
> Try it sometime.


Many here probably have, which is why your 'passe' comment will likely be viewed as misplaced by those readers if they have programmed professionally. By reading what Ezekiel wrote I'd say 'tedious' is a more apt description, which is why it's not generally cost effective. Your idea, while it has merit, lives in a philosophical bubble that often quickly pops in the the real world.

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#312660 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:40:55 -0500, Sam Wormley wrote:

> 
>    Nevertheless, the truth comes out -- too hard for you!
>    Nice attempt to avoid the truth.
>

Even a retarded girl scout could see through your feeble attempts at
baiting.

I am not going to dignify your asinine intellect with any response.


 

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#312638 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On 8/5/2015 12:51 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:

> I agree with him. C# is for "programmers"


In the same way that Linux is for "sophisticated users".

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#312671 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

"DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message news:mpts4s$7v8$1@dont-email.me...
> On 8/5/2015 3:30 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>
>> I began programming in machine language and I will stay in machine
>> language until I croak.  That's because the machine is all that
>> there is.
>
> That's an incredibly stupid reason.
>
> By your own "logic", you should be pedaling a bicycle everywhere.  Or is 
> the wheel too 'abstract' for you?  Then it's time to get walking, caveman. 
> No shoes, of course: the ground is all that there is.
>
>
>> Everything else is someone else's sick hallucination.
>
> heh!  You're an idiot.  Scratch that - you're a serious idiot.

"The machine is all that there is.... everything else is someone else's sick
hallucination."

DFS - You might be talking to JED's dad.


>>
>> Only an insane idiot overlays a simple machine with layer upon
>> layer of useless abstractions.
>
>
> What do you think about SQL?

Better yet - how about SQL where the underlying tables are "abstracted" with
a view definition?

One of the reasons that computers have emerged out of the dark-ages is that
things are now "abstracted" and programmers (real programmers) can focus
their efforts on the big-picture instead of minutia and meaningless details.

In any GUI based system the mouse has been abstracted just like the GUI,
printer, file-system, etc. If you want to know where the mouse is - make an
API call to get the position of the mouse cursor. You don't need to know the
useless details of what USB identifier is used for the mouse and how to
communicate with it.

Programmers don't need to know or care what port/ip-address a printer is
hooked up to. Just send output to an abstract printer device and it'll just
work. Same with the display, file-system, etc. It's all abstracted where the
programmer accessing the devices doesn't have to give a crap with the
useless minor details. Obviously if you're writing a device driver specific
to the device you need to care but I'm talking about the 99.9999% of the
people out there who aren't writing a driver for their hardware.

Abstraction is a good thing. Being an insane idiot who screams about it
isn't so good.



>> You are just another brainwashed, deluded idiot that is emotionally
>> supported by a community of brainwashed, deluded idiots.
>
> Says an inflexible wackjob unable to adapt to the modern world.
>

It's definitely got to be JEDs dad or brother.

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#312592 — What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both.

Replying to Ezekiel, Melzzz wrote:
> > In your world, idiots who keep re-inventing the wheel,
> > by writing more string classes, more collection classes, etc.
> > are "real programmers." 
> > 
> > But the developers who write Libre Office, GIMP, etc
> > are not "real programmers" because they're only "arranging
> > predetermined classes like a child will arrange toy blocks."
> > 
> > Like I said before. You're a clueless idiot. Plain and simple.
> 
> Actually he is not. I know at least one C# programmer who is not
> capable to grasp algorithm if there is no handy class around.
> 
> So actually if there is trivial solution to problem, such programmer
> would rather use some complex class, which does same thing, but with
> bloat, simply because he is not capable to come with algorithm.

What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dalí used both.

My extensions to Visual Studio 2015 are written in C#.
Were I to write an extension for FireFox, I'd use JavaScript.
Most of my code is Visual C++ but, mostly, it looks like C.

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#312598 — Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both.

"Jeff-Relf.Me" <@.> wrote in message 
news:Jeff-Relf.Me@Aug.5{11.17A.Seattle.2015}...
> Replying to Ezekiel, Melzzz wrote:
>> > In your world, idiots who keep re-inventing the wheel,
>> > by writing more string classes, more collection classes, etc.
>> > are "real programmers."
>> >
>> > But the developers who write Libre Office, GIMP, etc
>> > are not "real programmers" because they're only "arranging
>> > predetermined classes like a child will arrange toy blocks."
>> >
>> > Like I said before. You're a clueless idiot. Plain and simple.
>>
>> Actually he is not. I know at least one C# programmer who is not
>> capable to grasp algorithm if there is no handy class around.
>>
>> So actually if there is trivial solution to problem, such programmer
>> would rather use some complex class, which does same thing, but with
>> bloat, simply because he is not capable to come with algorithm.
>
> What's better: a pen or a pencil ?  Salvador Dalí used both.
>
> My extensions to Visual Studio 2015 are written in C#.
> Were I to write an extension for FireFox, I'd use JavaScript.
> Most of my code is Visual C++ but, mostly, it looks like C.

The "language" used is rarely an issue. Unless there's some restriction that 
VS extensions have to be in C# (or another managed language) or that Emacs 
extensions have to be in Lisp, etc.

The work of programming/software development is being able to understand the 
problem and to then figuring out a way to solve the problem. Once the 
solution is figured out and known - the actual language used to implement 
the solution isn't that big of a deal in most cases.

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#312631 — Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 14:31:00 -0400, Ezekiel wrote:

> 
> The work of programming/software development is being able to understand the 
> problem and to then figuring out a way to solve the problem. Once the 
> solution is figured out and known - the actual language used to implement 
> the solution isn't that big of a deal in most cases.
>

Well, now you are starting to make good sense.

But it is all moot.  Try presenting this argument to the average employer
and it will fail miserably.  The truth is that any programming language
can be sufficiently mastered for most purposes in a very short time, but
very few employers realize this truth.  For them, problem analysis is
secondary, if even that, to demonstrable experience in a specific language.

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#312623 — Re: What's better: a pen or a pencil ? Salvador Dali used both.

On Wed, 05 Aug 2015 11:17:43 -0700, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:

> 
> 
> Most of my code is Visual C++ but, mostly, it looks like C.
>

To the CPU it looks like the outlandish scrawling of a demented idiot,
a.k.a. typical modern programmer.

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#312520 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On 8/5/15 9:06 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> Real men use C or assembly.

   Or Pascal or Swift.



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#312524 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:21:59 -0500
Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 8/5/15 9:06 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
> > Real men use C or assembly.
> 
>    Or Pascal or Swift.
> 
> 
> 

Or PHP or JavaScript...

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#312528 — Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

"Melzzzzz" <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote in message 
news:20150805170241.3a832cc5@maxa-pc...
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2015 09:21:59 -0500
> Sam Wormley <swormley1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 8/5/15 9:06 AM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> > Real men use C or assembly.
>>
>>    Or Pascal or Swift.
>>
>>
>>
>
> Or PHP or JavaScript...

A few years back a friend of mine wrote a web-server in bash. A bit odd and 
unconventional but it was certainly creative, took some problem solving 
skills and got him a job with ITA software (which is now owned by Google).

ITA Software used to have a "programming challenge" on their website. 
Interested in a development job... solve one of the programming challenges, 
email your code/solution and maybe you'll get an interview.

His web server written in bash was certainly different and interesting 
enough to get him in the door. It takes a lot more clever thinking and 
problem solving to write a web server in bash than it does to write yet 
another string class.

-- 
"Microsoft Executives deposed in sworn testimony before Courts, in 2005, and 
in *every* quarterly SEC filing, that Linux users made up over 17% of all 
Internet users with a growth rate of >3% per annum."

Dumb Willy Poaster - repeating the same LIE for YEARS.

08 May 2008 <pan.2008.05.08.14.38.50.828910@leafnode.amd64.eu>
19 Jul 2009 <ibjbj6-l27.ln1@jaunty64bit.unbuntulinux.org>
26 Jan 2010 <pan.2010.01.26.12.12.13.492643@mandriva2010.org>

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#312437 — Show us your source code.

<PRE Style='Font-Family: OCR A !important;'><big><big> 
You (Rock_Brentwood) replied (to me):
> > You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it;
> > in fact, they often do so. Case in point:
> > 
> >   My C# macros, to automate Visual Studio 2015:
> > 
> >   Jeff-Relf.Me/Macros.HTM
> 
> Well OK, there's an idea. I'm in the middle of 
> rewriting AlgLib ... now down to 150,000 lines from 
> where it was before I got a hold of it (300,000+ 
> lines). Wait till I finish crunching down LaPack (all 
> 750,000 lines of it). I just finished crunching down 
> AutoMath yesterday (from 5000 lines to 
> beautifully-laid out 1000 lines) and am in the middle 
> of completely redoing CFront, Indent, Bison, Flex, 
> BYacc/J, VLC, Audacity, DarkWave, having just finally 
> wrapping up a 2-way spectrograph &lt;-> sound convertor.
> 
> On UNIX with GCC.

Prove it.  Show us your source code.

Here's a sample of my source code:

  Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP

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#312467

On 08/04/2015 01:22 PM, Sam Wormley wrote:
> On 8/4/15 12:07 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>> The Start Menu was specifically created by Microsoft, at great expense,
>> to accommodate mental retards.
>
>    Is that so...
>

Yup. It's true Sam. Bill created Win10 personalized just for you!
Get the picture?


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