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Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.

From "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Trite Hedonism. Quite Trite.
Date 2015-08-05 17:09 -0400
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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"DFS" <nospam@dfs.com> wrote in message news:mpts4s$7v8$1@dont-email.me...
> On 8/5/2015 3:30 PM, Fabian Russell wrote:
>
>> I began programming in machine language and I will stay in machine
>> language until I croak.  That's because the machine is all that
>> there is.
>
> That's an incredibly stupid reason.
>
> By your own "logic", you should be pedaling a bicycle everywhere.  Or is 
> the wheel too 'abstract' for you?  Then it's time to get walking, caveman. 
> No shoes, of course: the ground is all that there is.
>
>
>> Everything else is someone else's sick hallucination.
>
> heh!  You're an idiot.  Scratch that - you're a serious idiot.

"The machine is all that there is.... everything else is someone else's sick
hallucination."

DFS - You might be talking to JED's dad.


>>
>> Only an insane idiot overlays a simple machine with layer upon
>> layer of useless abstractions.
>
>
> What do you think about SQL?

Better yet - how about SQL where the underlying tables are "abstracted" with
a view definition?

One of the reasons that computers have emerged out of the dark-ages is that
things are now "abstracted" and programmers (real programmers) can focus
their efforts on the big-picture instead of minutia and meaningless details.

In any GUI based system the mouse has been abstracted just like the GUI,
printer, file-system, etc. If you want to know where the mouse is - make an
API call to get the position of the mouse cursor. You don't need to know the
useless details of what USB identifier is used for the mouse and how to
communicate with it.

Programmers don't need to know or care what port/ip-address a printer is
hooked up to. Just send output to an abstract printer device and it'll just
work. Same with the display, file-system, etc. It's all abstracted where the
programmer accessing the devices doesn't have to give a crap with the
useless minor details. Obviously if you're writing a device driver specific
to the device you need to care but I'm talking about the 99.9999% of the
people out there who aren't writing a driver for their hardware.

Abstraction is a good thing. Being an insane idiot who screams about it
isn't so good.



>> You are just another brainwashed, deluded idiot that is emotionally
>> supported by a community of brainwashed, deluded idiots.
>
> Says an inflexible wackjob unable to adapt to the modern world.
>

It's definitely got to be JEDs dad or brother.

-- 
"MacOS is OK for only the most rudimentary tasks"

JED - July 4th

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  Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. John Gohde <john.h.gohde@gmail.com> - 2015-08-04 05:55 -0700
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  Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. cc <scatnubbs@hotmail.com> - 2015-08-04 08:44 -0700
  Re: I prefer Win8 because, unlike Win10, it has no Start Menu. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 17:07 +0000
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        Re: You don't have to use old code, you can/should rewrite it. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-04 21:20 +0000
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          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-08-04 17:53 -0400
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          Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. Fabian Russell <root@localhost.localdomain> - 2015-08-05 14:06 +0000
            Re: Trite Hedonism.  Quite Trite. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-08-05 10:13 -0400
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