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Possibly good?

Started by-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
First post2018-04-26 11:49 -0700
Last post2018-04-27 18:29 -0700
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  Possibly good? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-04-26 11:49 -0700
    Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 12:28 -0700
    Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-26 22:24 +0000
      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-26 15:38 -0700
        Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 21:47 -0700
      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-26 15:51 -0700
        Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 00:39 -0700
    Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-26 23:32 +0000
      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 03:45 -0700
    Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-27 11:03 -0500
      Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-27 22:03 +0000
        Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-27 17:28 -0700
          Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 11:01 -0400
            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 08:52 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 16:01 +0000
                Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 12:43 -0400
                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 09:56 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 09:48 -0700
                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 19:08 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:00 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 16:23 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:36 -0700
                        Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 20:59 +0000
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:11 -0700
                            Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:33 +0000
                              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 15:35 -0700
                                Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:56 +0000
                                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:06 -0700
                                    Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 23:21 +0000
                                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:42 -0700
                                        Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 14:27 +0000
                                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 10:26 -0700
                                          Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-29 19:27 -0400
                                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 16:54 -0700
                              Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 19:41 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 20:56 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:07 -0700
                          Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:06 +0000
                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 15:30 -0700
                              Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 22:43 +0000
                                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:07 -0700
                                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 23:17 +0000
                                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 16:42 -0700
                                      Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 00:58 +0000
                                        Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 18:22 -0700
                                          Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 01:37 +0000
                                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 18:44 -0700
                                              Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 01:53 +0000
                                                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 19:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 02:16 +0000
                                                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 19:30 -0700
                                                      Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 02:44 +0000
                                                        Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 19:46 -0700
                                                          Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 02:54 +0000
                                                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 20:00 -0700
                                                              Re: Possibly good? Brick <brick@mortar.invalid> - 2018-04-29 03:03 +0000
                                                                Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-04-29 04:44 -0700
                                                                  Re: Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 05:13 -0700
                                                                  Re: Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-29 19:21 -0400
                                                                    Re: Our planet is greener now, vs. 100 years ago. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 16:54 -0700
                        Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 17:11 -0400
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:18 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 09:42 -0400
                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 14:21 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 07:34 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 10:43 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 15:28 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 13:13 -0400
                          Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 17:37 +0000
                            Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 10:44 -0700
                        Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 08:15 -0500
                          Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 06:36 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 15:29 +0000
                      Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 15:43 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 16:05 +0000
                          Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 16:44 +0000
                            Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 17:40 +0000
                              Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 17:58 +0000
                                Re: Possibly good? "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-04-29 19:24 +0000
                                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 12:43 -0700
                                    Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 20:26 +0000
                                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 13:46 -0700
                                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-29 20:24 +0000
                                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 14:05 -0700
                      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 09:23 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 12:27 -0400
            Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 17:24 +0000
              Re: Possibly good? a.m <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 13:44 -0400
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 10:54 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 10:56 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-04-28 21:01 +0200
                Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 12:59 -0700
                  Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 20:51 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 13:57 -0700
                      Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-04-28 21:04 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 17:13 -0400
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:17 -0700
                        Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:37 +0000
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:41 -0700
                          Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 01:21 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-04-28 17:09 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-28 14:12 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:36 +0000
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:40 -0700
                      Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-01 09:26 +0200
                Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-28 23:13 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 08:19 -0500
                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 08:04 -0700
                  Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:38 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:42 -0700
                    Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-01 09:24 +0200
                    Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 05:34 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 02:53 -0700
                Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:34 +0000
                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-30 20:39 -0700
                  Re: Possibly good? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2018-05-01 09:20 +0200
                    Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 05:37 -0400
                  Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-01 11:11 -0400
                    Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 15:17 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 19:47 -0400
            Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-04-29 09:40 -0400
              Re: Possibly good? Steven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 07:03 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-04-29 10:26 -0700
              Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-30 08:03 -0500
                Re: Possibly good? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2018-04-30 14:14 +0100
                Re: Possibly good? RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 03:44 +0000
                  Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 04:43 +0000
                    Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-01 05:28 +0000
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 05:36 +0000
                        Re: Possibly good? owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-05-01 06:09 +0000
                          Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 07:12 -0700
                            Re: Possibly good? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-01 14:52 +0000
                              Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 14:56 +0000
                                Re: Possibly good? Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-05-01 15:01 +0000
                  Re: Possibly good? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-05-01 07:01 -0500
                    Re: Possibly good? Doomsdrzej <.m@nsn.s> - 2018-05-01 11:21 -0400
                      Re: Possibly good? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-05-01 08:31 -0700
                      Re: Possibly good? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-05-01 19:41 -0400
        Re: Possibly good? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-04-27 18:29 -0700

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#449199 — Possibly good?

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2018-04-26 11:49 -0700
SubjectPossibly good?
Message-ID<66366f56-4c1b-4552-8e6a-f25871cf98a4@googlegroups.com>
Came recommended from a friend; haven't watched it yet to comment, critique and/or recommend:

Stallman on Data Privacy & FOSS

<http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/04/richard-stallman-rms-on-privacy-data-and-free-software.html>


-hh

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#449205

FromSteven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-26 12:28 -0700
Message-ID<aa0e7fed-828a-434e-bc7d-9c76870715ee@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#449199
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 11:49:54 AM UTC-7, -hh wrote:
> Came recommended from a friend; haven't watched it yet to comment, critique and/or recommend:
> 
> Stallman on Data Privacy & FOSS
> 
> <http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/04/richard-stallman-rms-on-privacy-data-and-free-software.html>
> 
> 
> -hh



What did Keith Thompson expect from the lying imbecile? That Krystal Lynn moron has nothing to squander but time. He has nothing else, especially not confidence. I think it is already over. Promotion is a wonderful thing and consumer ignorance is even better. It was Krystal Lynn who stated that he and his students used to forge people all the time and it was harmless fun to his way of thinking. No-one gets it, I don't get it. But Krystal Lynn feels the need to belittle the herd. 



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#449227

From"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date2018-04-26 22:24 +0000
Message-ID<pbtji90cvn@news4.newsguy.com>
In reply to#449199
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:49:51 -0700, -hh wrote:

> haven't watched it yet 
>

"Watched it?"  This is not a video.  You must READ it.

What's the matter?  Are you another semi-literate dyslexic that
requires pictures and "movies" to comprehend a message?  You certainly
_do_ require hieroglyphs, i.e. icons.  Without a DE you would be
totally helpless.

But the whole issue of data collection, virtually all of which is
used to support advertising, is just another example of "easy money"
that is promulgated by more do-nothing enterprises.

The American economy has lost its manufacturing substructure and is now
based largely in illusion mongering.  This is the true danger
for our cultural future.  A work force that can do nothing except
promote products that are made elsewhere is doomed to austerity
and decline.

Need proof?  YOU are the proof.  You wouldn't know how to join wood
with screws.

The old adage holds true: One is what one makes.

Our society can only make illusions.

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#449228

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-04-26 15:38 -0700
Message-ID<fkf2m9Fj1kgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#449227
On 4/26/18, 3:24 PM, F. Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:49:51 -0700, -hh wrote:
>
>> haven't watched it yet
>>
>
> "Watched it?"  This is not a video.  You must READ it.
>
> What's the matter?  Are you another semi-literate dyslexic that
> requires pictures and "movies" to comprehend a message?  You certainly
> _do_ require hieroglyphs, i.e. icons.  Without a DE you would be
> totally helpless.
>
> But the whole issue of data collection, virtually all of which is
> used to support advertising, is just another example of "easy money"
> that is promulgated by more do-nothing enterprises.
>
> The American economy has lost its manufacturing substructure and is now
> based largely in illusion mongering.  This is the true danger
> for our cultural future.  A work force that can do nothing except
> promote products that are made elsewhere is doomed to austerity
> and decline.
>
> Need proof?  YOU are the proof.  You wouldn't know how to join wood
> with screws.
>
> The old adage holds true: One is what one makes.
>
> Our society can only make illusions.

OH MY GAWD! HE MADE A MISTAKE!

End of the world.

I get not wanting the info-sharing that is happening, but some of the 
info that companies collect is used to let you know your past purchases 
an the like. I have no issue with that.


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Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#449256

FromSteven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-26 21:47 -0700
Message-ID<1f0bf72d-4c39-4b2d-98bf-28d2b1cddf57@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#449228
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:38:05 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote:
> On 4/26/18, 3:24 PM, F. Russell wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:49:51 -0700, -hh wrote:
> >
> >> haven't watched it yet
> >>
> >
> > "Watched it?"  This is not a video.  You must READ it.
> >
> > What's the matter?  Are you another semi-literate dyslexic that
> > requires pictures and "movies" to comprehend a message?  You certainly
> > _do_ require hieroglyphs, i.e. icons.  Without a DE you would be
> > totally helpless.
> >
> > But the whole issue of data collection, virtually all of which is
> > used to support advertising, is just another example of "easy money"
> > that is promulgated by more do-nothing enterprises.
> >
> > The American economy has lost its manufacturing substructure and is now
> > based largely in illusion mongering.  This is the true danger
> > for our cultural future.  A work force that can do nothing except
> > promote products that are made elsewhere is doomed to austerity
> > and decline.
> >
> > Need proof?  YOU are the proof.  You wouldn't know how to join wood
> > with screws.
> >
> > The old adage holds true: One is what one makes.
> >
> > Our society can only make illusions.
> 
> OH MY GAWD! HE MADE A MISTAKE!
> 
> End of the world.
> 
> I get not wanting the info-sharing that is happening, but some of the 
> info that companies collect is used to let you know your past purchases 
> an the like. I have no issue with that.
> 
> 
> -- 
> Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
> cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
> somehow superior by attacking the messenger.
> 
> They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.
> 
> <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>



Xfce is likely my second favorite DE and the only one I suggest to Linux converts. Primary interface is Trinity, though. A tiling window manager is all you need after Jeff Relf messes things up. What Elementary OS looks like is what it is and of no concern, especially if it's web based. 

If you have 'some_file.txt' open in an editor such as emacs and you want to change its name to 'mack.doc' via a proxy icon when editing a script, that might be OK. 

If Jeff Relf calls being busted using socks like an idiot by bartc and me (and completely trashing his name and any reason for anyone to believe anything he has to say - forever) successful 'trolling', then fine... he is a crack troll. I can't subscribe to that view, I use another term. I call him a perfect doofus. Jeff Relf's behavior is totally perfectly disingenuous. There is zero doubt that as soon as any forgiven 'plonkee' does one thing to offend the coward's feelings that they will be put right back in the kill filter.

And you _do_ realize that it isn't impossible for Jeff Relf to be doing this, or in collusion with someone doing the deed? 



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https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/smzXrBhsWf4
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#449229

FromSteven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-26 15:51 -0700
Message-ID<13983cb5-2004-43f7-b804-76ac14617f9f@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#449227
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:24:32 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:49:51 -0700, -hh wrote:
> 
> > haven't watched it yet 
> >
> 
> "Watched it?"  This is not a video.  You must READ it.
> 
> What's the matter?  Are you another semi-literate dyslexic that
> requires pictures and "movies" to comprehend a message?  You certainly
> _do_ require hieroglyphs, i.e. icons.  Without a DE you would be
> totally helpless.
> 
> But the whole issue of data collection, virtually all of which is
> used to support advertising, is just another example of "easy money"
> that is promulgated by more do-nothing enterprises.
> 
> The American economy has lost its manufacturing substructure and is now
> based largely in illusion mongering.  This is the true danger
> for our cultural future.  A work force that can do nothing except
> promote products that are made elsewhere is doomed to austerity
> and decline.
> 
> Need proof?  YOU are the proof.  You wouldn't know how to join wood
> with screws.
> 
> The old adage holds true: One is what one makes.
> 
> Our society can only make illusions.



I have a custom setup I use as well, but it's better than yours. Being independent as it is, the listserv concept will never go away but it'll never be common. Linux offers the least of any of the competition. 

Both Darwin and Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh had their malfunctions and their discomfort. One played it as supernatural and didn't do anything too publicly that could not be obfuscated with a larger scandal. 

Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh has yet to show how his moral code does anything above the minimum on Linux. Was that meant to be clever? 

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http://www.5z8.info/add-worm_z4r9qk_fakelogin
http://www.5z8.info/hateminorities_t7l3gt_linked-in-of-sex
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#449260

FromSteven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-27 00:39 -0700
Message-ID<8c5ad250-a03a-4ab6-b640-59482f5f2886@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#449229
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:52:01 PM UTC-7, Steven Petruzzellis wrote:
> On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 3:24:32 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote:
> > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:49:51 -0700, -hh wrote:
> > 
> > > haven't watched it yet 
> > >
> > 
> > "Watched it?"  This is not a video.  You must READ it.
> > 
> > What's the matter?  Are you another semi-literate dyslexic that
> > requires pictures and "movies" to comprehend a message?  You certainly
> > _do_ require hieroglyphs, i.e. icons.  Without a DE you would be
> > totally helpless.
> > 
> > But the whole issue of data collection, virtually all of which is
> > used to support advertising, is just another example of "easy money"
> > that is promulgated by more do-nothing enterprises.
> > 
> > The American economy has lost its manufacturing substructure and is now
> > based largely in illusion mongering.  This is the true danger
> > for our cultural future.  A work force that can do nothing except
> > promote products that are made elsewhere is doomed to austerity
> > and decline.
> > 
> > Need proof?  YOU are the proof.  You wouldn't know how to join wood
> > with screws.
> > 
> > The old adage holds true: One is what one makes.
> > 
> > Our society can only make illusions.
> 
> 
> 
> I have a custom setup I use as well, but it's better than yours. Being independent as it is, the listserv concept will never go away but it'll never be common. Linux offers the least of any of the competition. 
> 
> Both Darwin and Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh had their malfunctions and their discomfort. One played it as supernatural and didn't do anything too publicly that could not be obfuscated with a larger scandal. 
> 
> Sandman, AKA Jonas Eklundh has yet to show how his moral code does anything above the minimum on Linux. Was that meant to be clever? 
> 
> --
> My Snoring Solution!
> http://comp.os.linux.advocacy.narkive.com/711dskzA/steven-petruzzellis-admits-he-can-not-back-his-claims-about-snit
> http://www.5z8.info/add-worm_z4r9qk_fakelogin
> http://www.5z8.info/hateminorities_t7l3gt_linked-in-of-sex
> Jonas Eklundh Communication



Keith Thompson is the upshot of the fact that atheists have been employed to take the lead in teaching the next generation. It's not a coincidence that he is an unintelligent Democrat. His goal is to see me frightened off by idiotic lying. And hey, that could happen. You guys can only think from the viewpoint of a sociopath. 

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#449231

From"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date2018-04-26 23:32 +0000
Message-ID<pbtniu02mqc@news2.newsguy.com>
In reply to#449199
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:49:51 -0700, -hh wrote:

> 
> Stallman on Data Privacy & FOSS
> 
> <http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/04/richard-stallman-rms-on-privacy-data-and-free-software.html>
> 

Incidentally, this is a web site that is BEST viewed with the graphical
LINKS browser.  It rejects all that css/javasript nonsense and allows
the site to load extremely rapidly -- the way all sites are supposed to
load.

Get links NOW:

http://links.twibright.com

Another fine product of FOSS.

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#449265

FromSteven Petruzzellis <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-04-27 03:45 -0700
Message-ID<feb97c35-2110-4867-accb-cc4589a93ad9@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#449231
On Thursday, April 26, 2018 at 4:33:09 PM UTC-7, F. Russell wrote:
> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 11:49:51 -0700, -hh wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Stallman on Data Privacy & FOSS
> > 
> > <http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/04/richard-stallman-rms-on-privacy-data-and-free-software.html>
> > 
> 
> Incidentally, this is a web site that is BEST viewed with the graphical
> LINKS browser.  It rejects all that css/javasript nonsense and allows
> the site to load extremely rapidly -- the way all sites are supposed to
> load.
> 
> Get links NOW:
> 
> http://links.twibright.com
> 
> Another fine product of FOSS.



Already moved on from that. Take it as you want! Thankfully the person you are replying to is in my kill filter. Do you have a Network+ certification? I will rope-a-dope you with my brain. He inconveniences an entire group of people who are just bystanders, but that's a stuck up jerk for you. What you and I care about isn't a factor. 

Any heinously desperate sleep deprived whacko could easily do the same. 

Like the other trolls in political groups, Staci M. Elliot relies on CNN to form his stances on subjects. As a result, he only knows and consents to the government news which also happens to be the ones which paint humanism in a highly approving and moral view. It was Staci M. Elliot who flooded Andre G. Isaak's site dozens of times and pretended he did not do it. 

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#449279

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-04-27 11:03 -0500
Message-ID<n0i6edd0qkvjg3j3phsp1odtqm6pt7eqp4@4ax.com>
In reply to#449199
-hh wrote:

>Came recommended from a friend; haven't watched it yet to comment, critique and/or recommend:
>
>Stallman on Data Privacy & FOSS
>
><http://nymag.com/selectall/2018/04/richard-stallman-rms-on-privacy-data-and-free-software.html>

In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
enforceable.  It provides strict requirements to enforce the
protection of personal information.

They even have rules for ensuring that data is protected, if it is to
be transferred to countries that do not require proper data protection
(like the US)!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation

The rules seem almost onerous, but, really, anything less would not do
the job.

-- 
"GPLed software is free but with numerous strings attached making it
only partially free in practice.  Compared to licenses where free
really is free, what's so great about that?"  -  "Black Dragon"

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#449311

From"F. Russell" <fr@random.info>
Date2018-04-27 22:03 +0000
Message-ID<pc06ne01gqs@news1.newsguy.com>
In reply to#449279
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:


> 
> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements 
>

I don't know that law so I cannot comment.

But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."

Stallman, however, is very proactive.  He has seen these things
for many years, yet no one heeds his warnings.  All his predictions
have been 100% accurate.


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#449320

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-04-27 17:28 -0700
Message-ID<fkhthqF7pklU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#449311
On 4/27/18 3:03 PM, F. Russell wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
> 
> 
>>
>> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
>> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements
>>
> 
> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
> 
> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
> most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."

Climate change is a great examples of this.

> Stallman, however, is very proactive.  He has seen these things
> for many years, yet no one heeds his warnings.  All his predictions
> have been 100% accurate.
> 
> 
> 


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#449350

Froma.m <.m@nsn.s>
Date2018-04-28 11:01 -0400
Message-ID<8439edlg6u7pupggbpeip1f75a436deqi7@4ax.com>
In reply to#449320
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:28:42 -0700, Snit
<usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:

>On 4/27/18 3:03 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>
>>> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
>>> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements
>>>
>> 
>> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
>> 
>> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
>> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
>> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
>> most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."
>
>Climate change is a great examples of this.

The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
are now admitting that they were wrong.

<https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/950748/climate-change-scientists-impact-not-as-bad-on-planet>

Face it, your liberal media lied to you _again_ because that's all
they ever do. Luckily for them, they'll always find someone dumb
enough to believe them. 

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#449353

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-04-28 08:52 -0700
Message-ID<fkjjmoFj3h0U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#449350
On 4/28/18 8:01 AM, a.m wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:28:42 -0700, Snit
> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 4/27/18 3:03 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
>>>> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements
>>>>
>>>
>>> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
>>>
>>> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
>>> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
>>> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
>>> most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."
>>
>> Climate change is a great examples of this.
> 
> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
> are now admitting that they were wrong.

Who said we would be under water? The oceans HAVE risen. The predictions 
have been amazingly accurate.

> <https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/950748/climate-change-scientists-impact-not-as-bad-on-planet>

You hand-picked one study. One. In the past you have hand-picked some 
others. But you are hand-picking and ignoring the overall picture... the 
overall science. You are seeking confirmation bias and finding it. That 
is NOT how you should look at science. That is not using the best data 
we have and understanding the context.

Let's get some context:

<https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/capital-weather-gang/wp/2014/09/26/study-lowers-range-for-future-global-warming-but-does-it-matter>
OR <https://goo.gl/C75akG>
     -----
     Doubling the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere won’t
     produce as much global warming as some previous estimates, says a
     new study. However, scientists don’t universally accept this result
     nor do they agree about whether it makes much difference about what
     we should do about it.
     -----

And even the study itself finds that the climate IS changing and WILL 
continue to change. And even if the study is correct:
     -----
     "A 25 per cent reduction in TCR would mean the changes we expect
     between now and 2050 might take until the early 2060s instead... So,
     even if correct, it is hardly a game-changer," Allen told the blog
     Carbon Brief.
     -----

Hardly a big difference.

As far as you picking and choosing, here is another recent study (or 
article, from a more scientific source, which talks about the study):

<https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-just-breached-the-410-ppm-threshold-for-co2/> 
OR <https://goo.gl/nZkZmM>
     -----
     The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone.
     Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it
     has.
     ...
     Earlier this year, U.K. Met Office scientists issued their
     first-ever carbon dioxide forecast. They projected carbon dioxide
     could reach 410 ppm in March and almost certainly would by April.
     Their forecast has been borne out with Tuesday's daily record. They
     project that the monthly average will peak near 407 ppm in May,
     setting a monthly record.

     Carbon dioxide concentrations have skyrocketed over the past two
     years due to in part to natural factors like El Nino causing more of
     it to end up in the atmosphere. But it's mostly driven by the record
     amounts of carbon dioxide humans are creating by burning fossil
     fuels.
     -----

> Face it, your liberal media lied to you _again_ because that's all
> they ever do. Luckily for them, they'll always find someone dumb
> enough to believe them.

Why are you bringing up the media? What you are doing is showing deep 
ignorance about basic science and then presenting the idea that those 
who do understand the science must be getting manipulated by the 
"liberal media"... meaning Huffington Post and the like I suppose? Such 
amazing ignorance from you.


-- 
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cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#449355

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-04-28 16:01 +0000
Message-ID<9l.zbvuo3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#449353
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/28/18 8:01 AM, a.m wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:28:42 -0700, Snit
>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 4/27/18 3:03 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
>>>>> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
>>>>
>>>> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
>>>> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
>>>> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
>>>> most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."
>>>
>>> Climate change is a great examples of this.
>> 
>> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
>> are now admitting that they were wrong.
> 
> Who said we would be under water? The oceans HAVE risen. The predictions 
> have been amazingly accurate.
> 
>> <https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/950748/climate-change-scientists-impact-not-as-bad-on-planet>
> 
> You hand-picked one study. One. In the past you have hand-picked some 
> others. But you are hand-picking and ignoring the overall picture... the 
> overall science. You are seeking confirmation bias and finding it.


That is the essence of "climate science."


> 
> As far as you picking and choosing, here is another recent study (or 
> article, from a more scientific source, which talks about the study):
> 
> <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-just-breached-the-410-ppm-threshold-for-co2/> 
> OR <https://goo.gl/nZkZmM>
>     -----
>     The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone.
>     Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it
>     has.
>     ...
>     Earlier this year, U.K. Met Office scientists issued their
>     first-ever carbon dioxide forecast. They projected carbon dioxide
>     could reach 410 ppm in March and almost certainly would by April.
>     Their forecast has been borne out with Tuesday's daily record. They
>     project that the monthly average will peak near 407 ppm in May,
>     setting a monthly record.
> 
>     Carbon dioxide concentrations have skyrocketed over the past two
>     years due to in part to natural factors like El Nino causing more of
>     it to end up in the atmosphere. But it's mostly driven by the record
>     amounts of carbon dioxide humans are creating by burning fossil
>     fuels.
>     -----
> 

The plants of Earth rejoice!

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#449359

Froma.m <.m@nsn.s>
Date2018-04-28 12:43 -0400
Message-ID<ev89ed95klnspfbigs9mp20tanuu5prhtk@4ax.com>
In reply to#449355
On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 16:01:58 +0000 (UTC), owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
wrote:

>Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/28/18 8:01 AM, a.m wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:28:42 -0700, Snit
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 4/27/18 3:03 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
>>>>>> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
>>>>> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
>>>>> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
>>>>> most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."
>>>>
>>>> Climate change is a great examples of this.
>>> 
>>> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
>>> are now admitting that they were wrong.
>> 
>> Who said we would be under water? The oceans HAVE risen. The predictions 
>> have been amazingly accurate.
>> 
>>> <https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/950748/climate-change-scientists-impact-not-as-bad-on-planet>
>> 
>> You hand-picked one study. One. In the past you have hand-picked some 
>> others. But you are hand-picking and ignoring the overall picture... the 
>> overall science. You are seeking confirmation bias and finding it.
>
>
>That is the essence of "climate science."

I "hand-picked a single source" but there is no problem with them hand
picking scientists to conduct a subjective study on climate which
agrees with their agenda. As long as it benefits liberals in some way
(in this case in additional taxes that go exclusively to liberal
backers) we should all sit back and accept it. Anything else makes us
racist, white supremacist Neo Nazis according to Michael Glasser, the
cockroach of Prescott, Arizona.

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#449364

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-04-28 09:56 -0700
Message-ID<fkjne3Fju2eU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#449359
On 4/28/18 9:43 AM, a.m wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Apr 2018 16:01:58 +0000 (UTC), owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/28/18 8:01 AM, a.m wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:28:42 -0700, Snit
>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/27/18 3:03 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
>>>>>>> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
>>>>>> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
>>>>>> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
>>>>>> most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."
>>>>>
>>>>> Climate change is a great examples of this.
>>>>
>>>> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
>>>> are now admitting that they were wrong.
>>>
>>> Who said we would be under water? The oceans HAVE risen. The predictions
>>> have been amazingly accurate.
>>>
>>>> <https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/950748/climate-change-scientists-impact-not-as-bad-on-planet>
>>>
>>> You hand-picked one study. One. In the past you have hand-picked some
>>> others. But you are hand-picking and ignoring the overall picture... the
>>> overall science. You are seeking confirmation bias and finding it.
>>
>>
>> That is the essence of "climate science."
> 
> I "hand-picked a single source" but there is no problem with them hand
> picking scientists to conduct a subjective study on climate which
> agrees with their agenda. As long as it benefits liberals in some way
> (in this case in additional taxes that go exclusively to liberal
> backers) we should all sit back and accept it. Anything else makes us
> racist, white supremacist Neo Nazis according to Michael Glasser, the
> cockroach of Prescott, Arizona.
> <https://youtu.be/Ek23bXq23pY>

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

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#449360

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-04-28 09:48 -0700
Message-ID<fkjmvqFjr79U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#449355
On 4/28/18 9:01 AM, owl wrote:
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> On 4/28/18 8:01 AM, a.m wrote:
>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:28:42 -0700, Snit
>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 4/27/18 3:03 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
>>>>>> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
>>>>>
>>>>> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
>>>>> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
>>>>> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
>>>>> most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."
>>>>
>>>> Climate change is a great examples of this.
>>>
>>> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
>>> are now admitting that they were wrong.
>>
>> Who said we would be under water? The oceans HAVE risen. The predictions
>> have been amazingly accurate.
>>
>>> <https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/950748/climate-change-scientists-impact-not-as-bad-on-planet>
>>
>> You hand-picked one study. One. In the past you have hand-picked some
>> others. But you are hand-picking and ignoring the overall picture... the
>> overall science. You are seeking confirmation bias and finding it.
> 
> 
> That is the essence of "climate science."
> 
> 
>>
>> As far as you picking and choosing, here is another recent study (or
>> article, from a more scientific source, which talks about the study):
>>
>> <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-just-breached-the-410-ppm-threshold-for-co2/>
>> OR <https://goo.gl/nZkZmM>
>>      -----
>>      The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone.
>>      Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it
>>      has.
>>      ...
>>      Earlier this year, U.K. Met Office scientists issued their
>>      first-ever carbon dioxide forecast. They projected carbon dioxide
>>      could reach 410 ppm in March and almost certainly would by April.
>>      Their forecast has been borne out with Tuesday's daily record. They
>>      project that the monthly average will peak near 407 ppm in May,
>>      setting a monthly record.
>>
>>      Carbon dioxide concentrations have skyrocketed over the past two
>>      years due to in part to natural factors like El Nino causing more of
>>      it to end up in the atmosphere. But it's mostly driven by the record
>>      amounts of carbon dioxide humans are creating by burning fossil
>>      fuels.
>>      -----
>>
> 
> The plants of Earth rejoice!
> 
If you truly want to learn about man-made global climate change go to 
any -- literally ANY -- scientific site that states a position. Follow 
some of their references to learn more.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#449385

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-04-28 19:08 +0000
Message-ID<saxzc9v03.avuo@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#449360
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 4/28/18 9:01 AM, owl wrote:
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 4/28/18 8:01 AM, a.m wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 17:28:42 -0700, Snit
>>>> <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/27/18 3:03 PM, F. Russell wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 11:03:28 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In another month, the EU's General Data Protection Regulation becomes
>>>>>>> enforceable.  It provides strict requirements
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know that law so I cannot comment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But I do know that both European _and_ American politics is
>>>>>> REACTIVE rather than PROACTIVE.  The politicians should see
>>>>>> these things coming far in advance but they never do.  Consequently
>>>>>> most laws are unfortunately always "too little and too late."
>>>>>
>>>>> Climate change is a great examples of this.
>>>>
>>>> The same scientists who claimed that we'd all be underwater right now
>>>> are now admitting that they were wrong.
>>>
>>> Who said we would be under water? The oceans HAVE risen. The predictions
>>> have been amazingly accurate.
>>>
>>>> <https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/950748/climate-change-scientists-impact-not-as-bad-on-planet>
>>>
>>> You hand-picked one study. One. In the past you have hand-picked some
>>> others. But you are hand-picking and ignoring the overall picture... the
>>> overall science. You are seeking confirmation bias and finding it.
>> 
>> 
>> That is the essence of "climate science."
>> 
>> 
>>>
>>> As far as you picking and choosing, here is another recent study (or
>>> article, from a more scientific source, which talks about the study):
>>>
>>> <https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/we-just-breached-the-410-ppm-threshold-for-co2/>
>>> OR <https://goo.gl/nZkZmM>
>>>      -----
>>>      The world just passed another round-numbered climate milestone.
>>>      Scientists predicted it would happen this year and lo and behold, it
>>>      has.
>>>      ...
>>>      Earlier this year, U.K. Met Office scientists issued their
>>>      first-ever carbon dioxide forecast. They projected carbon dioxide
>>>      could reach 410 ppm in March and almost certainly would by April.
>>>      Their forecast has been borne out with Tuesday's daily record. They
>>>      project that the monthly average will peak near 407 ppm in May,
>>>      setting a monthly record.
>>>
>>>      Carbon dioxide concentrations have skyrocketed over the past two
>>>      years due to in part to natural factors like El Nino causing more of
>>>      it to end up in the atmosphere. But it's mostly driven by the record
>>>      amounts of carbon dioxide humans are creating by burning fossil
>>>      fuels.
>>>      -----
>>>
>> 
>> The plants of Earth rejoice!
>> 
> If you truly want to learn about man-made global climate change go to 
> any -- literally ANY -- scientific site that states a position. Follow 
> some of their references to learn more.
> 

I would love to see Antarctica uncovered in my lifetime, and I couldn't
care less about Florida.  Let that shit sink.

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FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-04-28 13:00 -0700
Message-ID<fkk27eFmatdU4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#449385
On 4/28/18 12:08 PM, owl wrote:
>> If you truly want to learn about man-made global climate change go to
>> any -- literally ANY -- scientific site that states a position. Follow
>> some of their references to learn more.
>>
> I would love to see Antarctica uncovered in my lifetime, and I couldn't
> care less about Florida.  Let that shit sink.

Do you back socializing the costs of using ancient stores of carbon or 
do you want the petroleum industry to pay for the harm they lead to?


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