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| First post | 2018-10-04 10:08 -0400 |
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Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 10:08 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 08:51 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 13:50 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 11:59 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 21:23 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:12 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:21 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:55 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-05 13:51 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:16 -0700
"Path:" is the only line that's never fake. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-14 01:41 -0700
Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 11:16 -0400
Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 08:38 -0700
Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 16:40 +0100
Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 11:43 -0400
Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 17:12 +0100
Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 12:23 -0400
Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Wader of Doom) - 2018-10-14 18:01 +0100
No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-14 14:29 -0700
Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 17:33 -0400
Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 22:47 +0100
Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. "Sir Gregory Hall, Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2018-10-14 17:53 -0400
Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2018-10-14 22:58 +0100
Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 14:56 -0700
Re: No one can do "a perfect forgery" of my posts. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 14:41 -0700
Re: "Path:" is the only line that's never fake. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 08:54 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-14 11:26 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 09:23 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-14 18:53 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 13:27 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-10-14 20:55 +0000
Pipelining "Article" commands. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2018-10-14 14:23 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-15 13:49 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 07:34 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-15 21:54 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 19:15 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 21:51 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-16 03:16 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-15 20:33 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-16 10:26 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 07:44 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-16 15:17 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-16 12:26 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 09:46 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 10:21 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-16 14:00 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-16 16:49 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 12:35 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-04 20:44 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:09 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 14:50 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-04 22:32 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-04 23:03 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 16:28 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 16:54 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:02 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:20 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:31 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:32 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:41 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:54 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:02 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 01:07 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:11 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:48 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 02:06 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:01 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 15:35 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:37 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:53 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:57 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:17 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:19 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:41 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 16:19 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:23 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 16:40 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 09:41 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 17:39 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:07 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 18:14 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:41 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 18:52 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 08:46 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 11:29 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 11:48 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 11:51 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 12:19 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 15:34 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-08 21:27 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 17:49 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 18:13 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:31 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-09 13:45 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 07:55 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-09 15:55 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:20 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:39 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 09:41 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 10:23 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 23:38 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-09 17:47 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-09 11:09 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 09:04 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 13:56 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 05:02 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-10 10:33 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-10 19:21 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-12 20:46 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 23:50 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-08 18:44 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-06 14:08 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 11:32 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-10-05 00:32 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:46 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:55 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 01:17 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-05 06:59 -0500
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 05:14 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 12:48 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-05 11:17 -0500
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-05 13:35 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Silicon Vee <siliconvee1945@yahoo.com> - 2018-10-11 01:36 +0200
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:07 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 00:12 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:21 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-05 12:01 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 05:30 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 08:13 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-05 12:50 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 10:35 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-10 08:51 -0500
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:09 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-10-05 16:43 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-10 10:34 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 07:56 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-10 12:38 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 02:12 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-12 12:27 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 12:42 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 21:47 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-14 03:28 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 20:45 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-05 15:15 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 15:41 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 19:21 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-10-05 13:44 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-05 17:48 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 17:15 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 16:13 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 20:47 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 01:09 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 18:18 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-04 21:38 -0400
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:04 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-10-05 02:05 +0000
Re: slrn is trembling Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-04 19:35 -0700
Re: slrn is trembling DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-10 10:36 -0400
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 11:17 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <403frd12s3r01f4grsvf5nq9litq4qb2uu@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #470784 |
owl wrote: >chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >> >> Cool tech tip! It's not working, for me, though. I get a "200 >> Welcome to Usenet (fx45.iad)" message, and then nothing. No prompt, >> no response to any input. > >I don't have a fastusenet account, but I was able to interact: > >anon@lowtide:~$ telnet news.fastusenet.org 119 >Trying 69.16.179.46... >Connected to fastusenet-us.sslusenet.com. >Escape character is '^]'. >200 Welcome to Usenet (fx35.iad) I got it to work, on a Linux machine, here. Cool! On my office Billy Box, it doesn't work. Probably Micro$oft sabotaging open standards, as usual. 8) -- 'Which "open standard" formats would these be? The ones that are still non standard or the MS Office ones which are used in 95% or more of businesses?' - "True Linux advocate" Hadron Quark
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 13:35 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4hNtD.48008$Wt1.15721@fx20.iad> |
| In reply to | #470810 |
On 10/5/2018 12:17 PM, shit("I have a BSEE")v wrote:
> owl wrote:
>
>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>> Cool tech tip! It's not working, for me, though. I get a "200
>>> Welcome to Usenet (fx45.iad)" message, and then nothing. No prompt,
>>> no response to any input.
>>
>> I don't have a fastusenet account, but I was able to interact:
>>
>> anon@lowtide:~$ telnet news.fastusenet.org 119
>> Trying 69.16.179.46...
>> Connected to fastusenet-us.sslusenet.com.
>> Escape character is '^]'.
>> 200 Welcome to Usenet (fx35.iad)
>
> I got it to work, on a Linux machine, here. Cool!
>
> On my office Billy Box, it doesn't work. Probably Micro$oft
> sabotaging open standards, as usual. 8)
No, it's just shitv being a technical moron, as usual.
Control Panel | Programs and Features | Turn Windows features on or off
| scroll down and choose telnet client and click OK. After it installs
enter telnet at a command prompt.
"I've rarely seen Excel used for anything more than organizing
information into rows and columns." -- turdv, really *grasping* what a
spreadsheet is all about.
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| From | Silicon Vee <siliconvee1945@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-11 01:36 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87a7nltluu.fsf@yahoo.com> |
| In reply to | #470810 |
chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> writes: > owl wrote: > >>chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> >>> Cool tech tip! It's not working, for me, though. I get a "200 >>> Welcome to Usenet (fx45.iad)" message, and then nothing. No prompt, >>> no response to any input. >> >>I don't have a fastusenet account, but I was able to interact: >> >>anon@lowtide:~$ telnet news.fastusenet.org 119 >>Trying 69.16.179.46... >>Connected to fastusenet-us.sslusenet.com. >>Escape character is '^]'. >>200 Welcome to Usenet (fx35.iad) > > I got it to work, on a Linux machine, here. Cool! > > On my office Billy Box, it doesn't work. Probably Micro$oft > sabotaging open standards, as usual. 8) You sound like a turd. -- Sand is hard on turds.
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 17:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <76f5681e-ccf8-4068-93b3-5a40b39cffb3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470692 |
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:54:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > > > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > > >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > > >>> > > > >>> > I just discovered something. The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the > > >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which > > >>> > just pulls down the headers). > > >>> > > > >>> > <quote> > > >>> > NNTP.article(id) > > >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). > > >>> > Return as for head(). > > >>> > </quote> > > >>> > > > >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now. And it turns out it retrieves > > >>> > the entire post, headers and body! > > >>> > > > >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command. I just did a test with > > >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds. > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.). > > >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them. No real need for > > >>> python nntplib. I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing > > >>> everything with article commands and then parsing. > > >> > > >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal > > >> september? > > > > > > I don't have an account with them. > > > > > >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm > > >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit > > >> of it anyway. > > > > > > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not > > > a nntps connection. My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader > > > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563. > > > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost > > > 119, and it's tunneled. You can also use opennssl to connect directly > > > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat: > > > > > > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563 > > > > > > > I just set up an account with them. Works fine with either netcat > > to port 119 or openssl to port 563. Issue these commands when you > > connect: > > > > authinfo user yourusername > > authinfo pass yourpassword > > group comp.os.linux.advocacy > > > > I get this: > > 281 Authentication succeeded > > group comp.os.linux.advocacy > > 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy > > I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I > don't understand), I was unable to connect using it. It's not taking the password like that... but when I do authinfo user 'my_user_name' ... and hit return, it then prompts: "381 Enter password" ... and when I try to punch it in (double or single or no quotes), I get: "500 What?"
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| From | owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 00:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <9a8800b0qa.30@rooftop.invalid> |
| In reply to | #470695 |
Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:54:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Carroll wrote: >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: >> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> > > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: >> > >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >> > >>> > >> > >>> > I just discovered something. The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the >> > >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which >> > >>> > just pulls down the headers). >> > >>> > >> > >>> > <quote> >> > >>> > NNTP.article(id) >> > >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). >> > >>> > Return as for head(). >> > >>> > </quote> >> > >>> > >> > >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now. And it turns out it retrieves >> > >>> > the entire post, headers and body! >> > >>> > >> > >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command. I just did a test with >> > >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds. >> > >>> > >> > >>> >> > >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.). >> > >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them. No real need for >> > >>> python nntplib. I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing >> > >>> everything with article commands and then parsing. >> > >> >> > >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal >> > >> september? >> > > >> > > I don't have an account with them. >> > > >> > >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm >> > >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit >> > >> of it anyway. >> > > >> > > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not >> > > a nntps connection. My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader >> > > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563. >> > > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost >> > > 119, and it's tunneled. You can also use opennssl to connect directly >> > > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat: >> > > >> > > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563 >> > > >> > >> > I just set up an account with them. Works fine with either netcat >> > to port 119 or openssl to port 563. Issue these commands when you >> > connect: >> > >> > authinfo user yourusername >> > authinfo pass yourpassword >> > group comp.os.linux.advocacy >> > >> > I get this: >> > 281 Authentication succeeded >> > group comp.os.linux.advocacy >> > 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy >> >> I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I >> don't understand), I was unable to connect using it. > > It's not taking the password like that... but when I do > > authinfo user 'my_user_name' > > ... and hit return, it then prompts: > > "381 Enter password" > > ... and when I try to punch it in (double or single or no quotes), I get: > > "500 What?" > You should not have to quote the username or pass. Are you sending the password with: authinfo pass your_password ?
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-04 17:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <e6f02a84-b2d2-4e15-98e0-0ea8ec8e930f@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470696 |
On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:12:06 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:54:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Carroll wrote: > >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > >> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> > > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > >> > >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > I just discovered something. The python 2.7 docs for nntplib say the > >> > >>> > article() command returns the same data as the head() command (which > >> > >>> > just pulls down the headers). > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > <quote> > >> > >>> > NNTP.article(id) > >> > >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as for stat(). > >> > >>> > Return as for head(). > >> > >>> > </quote> > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now. And it turns out it retrieves > >> > >>> > the entire post, headers and body! > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command. I just did a test with > >> > >>> > it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to six seconds. > >> > >>> > > >> > >>> > >> > >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, xpat, etc.). > >> > >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them. No real need for > >> > >>> python nntplib. I'm kind of surprised that you weren't just grabbing > >> > >>> everything with article commands and then parsing. > >> > >> > >> > >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on eternal > >> > >> september? > >> > > > >> > > I don't have an account with them. > >> > > > >> > >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm > >> > >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to learn a bit > >> > >> of it anyway. > >> > > > >> > > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's not > >> > > a nntps connection. My newsserver allows either, but my newsreader > >> > > doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 to remote 563. > >> > > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to localhost > >> > > 119, and it's tunneled. You can also use opennssl to connect directly > >> > > to port 563 on the server, and it's basically the same as a telnet/netcat: > >> > > > >> > > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563 > >> > > > >> > > >> > I just set up an account with them. Works fine with either netcat > >> > to port 119 or openssl to port 563. Issue these commands when you > >> > connect: > >> > > >> > authinfo user yourusername > >> > authinfo pass yourpassword > >> > group comp.os.linux.advocacy > >> > > >> > I get this: > >> > 281 Authentication succeeded > >> > group comp.os.linux.advocacy > >> > 211 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy > >> > >> I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I > >> don't understand), I was unable to connect using it. > > > > It's not taking the password like that... but when I do > > > > authinfo user 'my_user_name' > > > > ... and hit return, it then prompts: > > > > "381 Enter password" > > > > ... and when I try to punch it in (double or single or no quotes), I get: > > > > "500 What?" > > > > You should not have to quote the username or pass. > Are you sending the password with: > > authinfo pass your_password > > ? I am now... it worked and I feel like a Snit ;)
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| From | SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 12:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <qoItD.44994$sH2.6518@fx25.iad> |
| In reply to | #470699 |
On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 17:21:44 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:12:06 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:54:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Carroll >> > wrote: >> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: >> >> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: >> >> > > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: >> >> > >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > I just discovered something. The python 2.7 docs for >> >> > >>> > nntplib say the article() command returns the same data as >> >> > >>> > the head() command (which just pulls down the headers). >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > <quote> >> >> > >>> > NNTP.article(id) >> >> > >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as >> >> > >>> > for stat(). Return as for head(). >> >> > >>> > </quote> >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now. And it turns out >> >> > >>> > it retrieves the entire post, headers and body! >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command. I just did >> >> > >>> > a test with it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to >> >> > >>> > six seconds. >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, >> >> > >>> xpat, etc.). >> >> > >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them. No real >> >> > >>> need for python nntplib. I'm kind of surprised that you >> >> > >>> weren't just grabbing everything with article commands and >> >> > >>> then parsing. >> >> > >> >> >> > >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on >> >> > >> eternal september? >> >> > > >> >> > > I don't have an account with them. >> >> > > >> >> > >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm >> >> > >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to >> >> > >> learn a bit of it anyway. >> >> > > >> >> > > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's >> >> > > not a nntps connection. My newsserver allows either, but my >> >> > > newsreader doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 >> >> > > to remote 563. >> >> > > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to >> >> > > localhost 119, and it's tunneled. You can also use opennssl to >> >> > > connect directly to port 563 on the server, and it's basically >> >> > > the same as a telnet/netcat: >> >> > > >> >> > > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563 >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > I just set up an account with them. Works fine with either netcat >> >> > to port 119 or openssl to port 563. Issue these commands when you >> >> > connect: >> >> > >> >> > authinfo user yourusername authinfo pass yourpassword group >> >> > comp.os.linux.advocacy >> >> > >> >> > I get this: >> >> > 281 Authentication succeeded group comp.os.linux.advocacy 211 >> >> > 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy >> >> >> >> I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I >> >> don't understand), I was unable to connect using it. >> > >> > It's not taking the password like that... but when I do >> > >> > authinfo user 'my_user_name' >> > >> > ... and hit return, it then prompts: >> > >> > "381 Enter password" >> > >> > ... and when I try to punch it in (double or single or no quotes), I >> > get: >> > >> > "500 What?" >> > >> > >> You should not have to quote the username or pass. >> Are you sending the password with: >> >> authinfo pass your_password >> >> ? > > I am now... it worked and I feel like a Snit ;) I feel bad for anyone who has to endure the feeling of Snittyness even for a moment. -- SilverSlimer FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate Absolute centrist, proud Christian
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 05:30 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ceb156a9-83e6-470e-8ef7-b691c587a7aa@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470777 |
On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 5:01:29 AM UTC-7, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 17:21:44 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:12:06 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:54:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Carroll > >> > wrote: > >> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > >> >> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> >> > > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > >> >> > >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > I just discovered something. The python 2.7 docs for > >> >> > >>> > nntplib say the article() command returns the same data as > >> >> > >>> > the head() command (which just pulls down the headers). > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > <quote> > >> >> > >>> > NNTP.article(id) > >> >> > >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as > >> >> > >>> > for stat(). Return as for head(). > >> >> > >>> > </quote> > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now. And it turns out > >> >> > >>> > it retrieves the entire post, headers and body! > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command. I just did > >> >> > >>> > a test with it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to > >> >> > >>> > six seconds. > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, > >> >> > >>> xpat, etc.). > >> >> > >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them. No real > >> >> > >>> need for python nntplib. I'm kind of surprised that you > >> >> > >>> weren't just grabbing everything with article commands and > >> >> > >>> then parsing. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on > >> >> > >> eternal september? > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I don't have an account with them. > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm > >> >> > >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to > >> >> > >> learn a bit of it anyway. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's > >> >> > > not a nntps connection. My newsserver allows either, but my > >> >> > > newsreader doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 > >> >> > > to remote 563. > >> >> > > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to > >> >> > > localhost 119, and it's tunneled. You can also use opennssl to > >> >> > > connect directly to port 563 on the server, and it's basically > >> >> > > the same as a telnet/netcat: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563 > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I just set up an account with them. Works fine with either netcat > >> >> > to port 119 or openssl to port 563. Issue these commands when you > >> >> > connect: > >> >> > > >> >> > authinfo user yourusername authinfo pass yourpassword group > >> >> > comp.os.linux.advocacy > >> >> > > >> >> > I get this: > >> >> > 281 Authentication succeeded group comp.os.linux.advocacy 211 > >> >> > 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy > >> >> > >> >> I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I > >> >> don't understand), I was unable to connect using it. > >> > > >> > It's not taking the password like that... but when I do > >> > > >> > authinfo user 'my_user_name' > >> > > >> > ... and hit return, it then prompts: > >> > > >> > "381 Enter password" > >> > > >> > ... and when I try to punch it in (double or single or no quotes), I > >> > get: > >> > > >> > "500 What?" > >> > > >> > > >> You should not have to quote the username or pass. > >> Are you sending the password with: > >> > >> authinfo pass your_password > >> > >> ? > > > > I am now... it worked and I feel like a Snit ;) > > I feel bad for anyone who has to endure the feeling of Snittyness even > for a moment. > > > > -- > SilverSlimer > FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate > Absolute centrist, proud Christian It's like a front page hog. Sandman has already decided what he is going to say before he calls. What you say just a reaction. What Klaus Schadenfreude says doesn't matter. Sadly this is what arises when dangerously negative self esteem takes over Sandman's worldview. He is an imbecile advocates have kill filtered his bot posts. What he really wants is a bot that keeps switching names, then flood posts have a shot at being nearly as replied to as he is. Generally, Klaus Schadenfreude would not call a claim like Sandman's claims a fantasy until you disprove it (as you are here) and Sandman responds with the distraction because even he knows the details are wrong. I know we have two different perspectives about Sandman. I think the point is not 100% to get innocent posters to listen to him. The point is likely to piss me off for trolling outside groups he knows I frequent. Peopel who can grok Sandman's posts knows it is not written in the nature Klaus Schadenfreude is thinking, and some of them are of course hand written. All that Sandman cares about is that Sandman gets to convey his spam message and then hang up and giggle about it. The fact that Klaus Schadenfreude is an involuntary target on the other end of the phone is his motivation. -- Live on Kickstarter! http://www.5z8.info/php-start_GPS_tracking-user_f8h9lv_-OPEN-WEBCAM---START-RECORD-- http://www.5z8.info/hackwebcam_e9z2tw_friendster-of-sex https://www.facebook.com/JonasEklundh Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 08:13 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <38357182-a732-4ea3-8a6a-b164046f3fe3@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470777 |
On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 6:01:29 AM UTC-6, SilverSlimer wrote: > On Thu, 04 Oct 2018 17:21:44 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 6:12:06 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > >> Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:54:07 PM UTC-6, Steve Carroll > >> > wrote: > >> >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 5:03:15 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > >> >> > owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote: > >> >> > > Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> On Thursday, October 4, 2018 at 2:44:21 PM UTC-6, owl wrote: > >> >> > >>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote: > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > I just discovered something. The python 2.7 docs for > >> >> > >>> > nntplib say the article() command returns the same data as > >> >> > >>> > the head() command (which just pulls down the headers). > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > <quote> > >> >> > >>> > NNTP.article(id) > >> >> > >>> > Send an ARTICLE command, where id has the same meaning as > >> >> > >>> > for stat(). Return as for head(). > >> >> > >>> > </quote> > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > So I never even tried it, until just now. And it turns out > >> >> > >>> > it retrieves the entire post, headers and body! > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > So you could use the nntplib.article() command. I just did > >> >> > >>> > a test with it and stored 100 posts in 100 files in four to > >> >> > >>> > six seconds. > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> > > >> >> > >>> Those are standard nntp commands (article, head, body, xhdr, > >> >> > >>> xpat, etc.). > >> >> > >>> You can telnet/netcat to your server and issue them. No real > >> >> > >>> need for python nntplib. I'm kind of surprised that you > >> >> > >>> weren't just grabbing everything with article commands and > >> >> > >>> then parsing. > >> >> > >> > >> >> > >> If you have an acct. with them, have you ever tried telnet on > >> >> > >> eternal september? > >> >> > > > >> >> > > I don't have an account with them. > >> >> > > > >> >> > >> I just tried with no luck (same with SSH) so, for now, I'm > >> >> > >> stuck with Python, which is fine 'cuz I've been meaning to > >> >> > >> learn a bit of it anyway. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > You have to connect to the nntp port, which will be 119 if it's > >> >> > > not a nntps connection. My newsserver allows either, but my > >> >> > > newsreader doesn't do ssl, so I run stunnel from local port 119 > >> >> > > to remote 563. > >> >> > > Then I can connect either my newsreader or a netcat/telnet to > >> >> > > localhost 119, and it's tunneled. You can also use opennssl to > >> >> > > connect directly to port 563 on the server, and it's basically > >> >> > > the same as a telnet/netcat: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > openssl s_client -connect your.news.server:563 > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > I just set up an account with them. Works fine with either netcat > >> >> > to port 119 or openssl to port 563. Issue these commands when you > >> >> > connect: > >> >> > > >> >> > authinfo user yourusername authinfo pass yourpassword group > >> >> > comp.os.linux.advocacy > >> >> > > >> >> > I get this: > >> >> > 281 Authentication succeeded group comp.os.linux.advocacy 211 > >> >> > 446777 22199 705998 comp.os.linux.advocacy > >> >> > >> >> I only have regular telnet (not all this fancy crap you have that I > >> >> don't understand), I was unable to connect using it. > >> > > >> > It's not taking the password like that... but when I do > >> > > >> > authinfo user 'my_user_name' > >> > > >> > ... and hit return, it then prompts: > >> > > >> > "381 Enter password" > >> > > >> > ... and when I try to punch it in (double or single or no quotes), I > >> > get: > >> > > >> > "500 What?" > >> > > >> > > >> You should not have to quote the username or pass. > >> Are you sending the password with: > >> > >> authinfo pass your_password > >> > >> ? > > > > I am now... it worked and I feel like a Snit ;) > > I feel bad for anyone who has to endure the feeling of Snittyness even > for a moment. Pray for me? ;)
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 12:50 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <DDMtD.198244$RN2.136229@fx40.iad> |
| In reply to | #470777 |
On 10/5/2018 8:01 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > I feel bad for anyone who has to endure the feeling of Snittyness > even for a moment. To really feel Snitty you have to insult from a position of ignorance, then double down when you're exposed as being ignorant, then lie about others, or lie about what you knew or when you knew it, then half-ass apologize or half-ass admit your mistake, then use the half-ass apology or half-ass admittance for years as "proof" (in your own mind) that you're honest and honorable and admit to your ignorance or mistakes. This kind of behavior is one of the reasons Snit is universally reviled. He did it in the EXIF thread, and he did it to a slightly lesser degree in various threads related to public key encryption in Sep 2016: <quote> PS: if you post your public keys here, *I* can also read the messages if I want. ANYONE can. You might want to look into PGP and how it works. :) </quote> DFS note: that was directed at owl. See the sarcasm and insult based on Snit's own ignorance? In the EXIF thread he did the same thing to Tattoo: "And in next weeks lesson we shall discuss EXIF data!... And when the bulb turns on Tattoo Vampire shall slap himself on the forehead. :)" <quotes> The longer messages are encoded to try to make sure only those who troll can read them, but they are too dim to figure out if they share their public key ANYONE who cares can read them. As I have said: I am doing NOTHING to read their posts... I am not looking at ANY of their public keys or even using PGP at all. Wait: if the idea is to keep your trolling circle messages private then you will want to email the keys. Post them here and any of us who do NOT troll also can get them. You really should look up how PGP works. I have not even tied (sic). But if someone posted their public key and then posted a message encrypted with their private anyone who WANTS to can read it. For those who have posted their public keys the messages the post can be read by all... or if they are using someone else's key then only the person (or people) whose keys they are using can even read the message. It is just grade school kids playing secret agent. </quotes> More insults based on his blatant, sextupled-down-on ignorance. But at some point after this Snit must've read up on the topic or seen owl's explanation, because in late Aug 2017 (11 months later) he whimpered and relented and partially admitted he was pwned beyond redemption. <quote> Marek: When we first started to encrypt messages, You, *snit* believed all you needed was a public key to read the messages. Snit: I made a couple really stupid comments about them... I did not know you could encode them to multiple people's public keys. And I should have. It was a silly error on my part, no doubt! Of course, I am honest about things... even when I make an absurd error, as I did there, I just own it. Yeah, stupid comment about a topic I should have known better on or at least looked up before making my comment. I goofed. No doubt. </quote> But this half-assed confession of ignorance by someone who claims he is "honest about things" and "owns it" is full of lies and twists of reality: * zero apologies for the many insults based on his ignorance * it wasn't "a silly error" or "a couple stupid" comments - it was at least 6. * the only ignorance he admits to is "I did not know you could encode them to multiple people's public keys." But that was never in question - no one ever claimed otherwise. In the EXIF thread the issue never in question was his babbling that "JPG files can have EXIF data." No one ever claimed differently. But Snit uses these ridiculous lies or twists to distract from or minimize his embarrassment. The real problem in these crypto discussions was that Snit was completely ignorant of every facet of public key (asymmetric) cryptography, yet continued to post insult after insult as if he knew how it worked. And, as far as I know, Snit has never apologized to this day for insulting several people based on his own ignorance. Slimer, I hope this example has provided you a deeper understanding of "feeling Snitty".
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 10:35 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <a900c6cf-61b5-4698-b8f0-7579246cf961@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #470820 |
On Friday, October 5, 2018 at 10:50:45 AM UTC-6, DFS wrote: > On 10/5/2018 8:01 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > > > I feel bad for anyone who has to endure the feeling of Snittyness > > even for a moment. > > > To really feel Snitty you have to insult from a position of ignorance, > then double down when you're exposed as being ignorant, then lie about > others, or lie about what you knew or when you knew it, then half-ass > apologize or half-ass admit your mistake, then use the half-ass apology > or half-ass admittance for years as "proof" (in your own mind) that > you're honest and honorable and admit to your ignorance or mistakes. LMAO! That's gotta be one of the best descriptions of him I've ever heard (glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read it) and I've heard most all of 'em. Being that he's busy programming for big $$ now the ng might be spared from his kind of crap.
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2018-10-10 08:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <hh0srdpicv5tlak7jt5ig41jg1sm06n4e6@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #470826 |
> some dumb fsck wrote: >> >> To really feel Snitty you have to insult from a position of ignorance, Dumfsck knows all about insulting/attacking from a position of ignorance. Check my sig, where the dumb fsck attacks the advocates for not mentioning the fact that the root password defaults to "root" when you do a hard disk install from a live CD. Of course, we didn't talk about it, because it wasn't true! -- 'In fact, one or more live CDs come with (root password of "root") as the default - and I assume it's maintained when you do a hard disk install. But of course you don't mention things like this.' - DumFSck, putting his ignorance on display
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-10 07:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <60c6d293-9665-4351-b4c7-85da82fd284c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471376 |
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 6:51:43 AM UTC-7, chrisv wrote: > > some dumb fsck wrote: > >> > >> To really feel Snitty you have to insult from a position of ignorance, > > Dumfsck knows all about insulting/attacking from a position of > ignorance. > > Check my sig, where the dumb fsck attacks the advocates for not > mentioning the fact that the root password defaults to "root" when you > do a hard disk install from a live CD. > > Of course, we didn't talk about it, because it wasn't true! > > -- > 'In fact, one or more live CDs come with (root password of "root") as > the default - and I assume it's maintained when you do a hard disk > install. But of course you don't mention things like this.' - > DumFSck, putting his ignorance on display What did you assume from the lying imbecile? That the Script Troller lamebrain has nothing to squander but time. He has nothing else, especially not a girlfriend. What were you thinking? I don't follow that. Mental incapacity is mental incapacity and there are many who are in agreement with it. Several are even teachers. -- My Snoring Solution! http://www.5z8.info/hack-outlook_c6c9in_michaelangelo-virus https://youtu.be/E3m_i-x92D0 Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> |
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| Date | 2018-10-05 16:43 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <19lrdq9rminet.32hcibhahdbg.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #470820 |
On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:50:45 -0400, DFS wrote: > On 10/5/2018 8:01 AM, SilverSlimer wrote: > >> I feel bad for anyone who has to endure the feeling of Snittyness >> even for a moment. > > > To really feel Snitty you have to insult from a position of ignorance, > then double down when you're exposed as being ignorant, then lie about > others, or lie about what you knew or when you knew it, then half-ass > apologize or half-ass admit your mistake, then use the half-ass apology > or half-ass admittance for years as "proof" (in your own mind) that > you're honest and honorable and admit to your ignorance or mistakes. > > This kind of behavior is one of the reasons Snit is universally reviled. > > He did it in the EXIF thread, and he did it to a slightly lesser degree > in various threads related to public key encryption in Sep 2016: > > > <quote> > PS: if you post your public keys here, *I* can also read the messages > if I want. ANYONE can. > > You might want to look into PGP and how it works. :) > </quote> > > > DFS note: that was directed at owl. See the sarcasm and insult based on > Snit's own ignorance? In the EXIF thread he did the same thing to > Tattoo: "And in next weeks lesson we shall discuss EXIF data!... And > when the bulb turns on Tattoo Vampire shall slap himself on the > forehead. :)" > > > <quotes> > The longer messages are encoded to try to make sure only those who > troll can read them, but they are too dim to figure out if they share > their public key ANYONE who cares can read them. > > As I have said: I am doing NOTHING to read their posts... I am not > looking at ANY of their public keys or even using PGP at all. > > Wait: if the idea is to keep your trolling circle messages private > then you will want to email the keys. Post them here and any of us who > do NOT troll also can get them. You really should look up how PGP > works. > > I have not even tied (sic). But if someone posted their public key and > then posted a message encrypted with their private anyone who WANTS to > can read it. > > For those who have posted their public keys the messages the post can > be read by all... or if they are using someone else's key then only > the person (or people) whose keys they are using can even read the > message. It is just grade school kids playing secret agent. > </quotes> > > > More insults based on his blatant, sextupled-down-on ignorance. But at > some point after this Snit must've read up on the topic or seen owl's > explanation, because in late Aug 2017 (11 months later) he whimpered and > relented and partially admitted he was pwned beyond redemption. > > > <quote> > Marek: When we first started to encrypt messages, You, *snit* believed > all you needed was a public key to read the messages. > > Snit: I made a couple really stupid comments about them... I did not > know you could encode them to multiple people's public keys. And I > should have. It was a silly error on my part, no doubt! Of course, I > am honest about things... even when I make an absurd error, as I did > there, I just own it. Yeah, stupid comment about a topic I should > have known better on or at least looked up before making my comment. I > goofed. No doubt. > </quote> > > > But this half-assed confession of ignorance by someone who claims he is > "honest about things" and "owns it" is full of lies and twists of reality: > > > * zero apologies for the many insults based on his ignorance > > * it wasn't "a silly error" or "a couple stupid" comments - it was at > least 6. > > * the only ignorance he admits to is "I did not know you could encode > them to multiple people's public keys." But that was never in > question - no one ever claimed otherwise. In the EXIF thread the > issue never in question was his babbling that "JPG files can have EXIF > data." No one ever claimed differently. But Snit uses these > ridiculous lies or twists to distract from or minimize his > embarrassment. > > > The real problem in these crypto discussions was that Snit was > completely ignorant of every facet of public key (asymmetric) > cryptography, yet continued to post insult after insult as if he knew > how it worked. And, as far as I know, Snit has never apologized to this > day for insulting several people based on his own ignorance. > > Slimer, I hope this example has provided you a deeper understanding of > "feeling Snitty". Fuck that's good. Are you a Doctor of "snitology" ?
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| From | DFS <nospam@nospam.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-10 10:34 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <d5ovD.117487$ZJ2.40858@fx33.iad> |
| In reply to | #470861 |
On 10/5/2018 4:43 PM, Sam O'Nella wrote: > On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:50:45 -0400, DFS wrote: <snip> >> Slimer, I hope this example has provided you a deeper understanding of >> "feeling Snitty". > > Fuck that's good. > Are you a Doctor of "snitology" ? heh! Snit could easily be a case study in an Abnormal Psychology course. He insults people in the body of his posts, while his .sig says "personal attacks show you're insecure". Snit: "Honest". "Honorable". Hypocrite.
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-10 07:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <86042024-4eb9-45d0-ad78-e96e67ff18d1@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471381 |
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:33:50 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote: > On 10/5/2018 4:43 PM, Sam O'Nella wrote: > > On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:50:45 -0400, DFS wrote: > > <snip> > > >> Slimer, I hope this example has provided you a deeper understanding of > >> "feeling Snitty". > > > > Fuck that's good. > > Are you a Doctor of "snitology" ? > > > heh! > > Snit could easily be a case study in an Abnormal Psychology course. > > He insults people in the body of his posts, while his .sig says > "personal attacks show you're insecure". > > Snit: "Honest". "Honorable". Hypocrite. Flatfish is a moron people have kf'd his bot posts. What he really should use is a bot that keeps switching names, then they'd have a shot at being half as bothersome as he is. You refuse to take blame for your own actions. Words that are easily seen to be trolling. I have known toddlers who argue better than Flatfish does. - My Snoring Solution https://youtu.be/r7wys2JvBD0 https://goo.gl/Fho5Nq https://youtu.be/BUjnZhKk1Bg Jonas Eklundh Communication
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-10 12:38 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <253bfb3b-281a-44a8-abf6-d46312f7f66c@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471385 |
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:57:04 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:33:50 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote: > > On 10/5/2018 4:43 PM, Sam O'Nella wrote: > > > On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:50:45 -0400, DFS wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > > >> Slimer, I hope this example has provided you a deeper understanding of > > >> "feeling Snitty". > > > > > > Fuck that's good. > > > Are you a Doctor of "snitology" ? > > > > > > heh! > > > > Snit could easily be a case study in an Abnormal Psychology course. > > > > He insults people in the body of his posts, while his .sig says > > "personal attacks show you're insecure". > > > > Snit: "Honest". "Honorable". Hypocrite. > > > > Flatfish is a moron people have kf'd his bot posts. What he really should use is a bot that keeps switching names, then they'd have a shot at being half as bothersome as he is. > > You refuse to take blame for your own actions. Words that are easily seen to be trolling. I have known toddlers who argue better than Flatfish does. > > - > My Snoring Solution > https://youtu.be/r7wys2JvBD0 > https://goo.gl/Fho5Nq > https://youtu.be/BUjnZhKk1Bg > Jonas Eklundh Communication Steve Petruzzellis has yet to show how LibreOffice does anything above the LCD on Linux. All that matters is that Steve Petruzzellis gets to deliver his poorly written flyer and then hang up and giggle about it. The fact that Sandman is an involuntary target on the other end of the phone is his motivation. What Sandman does is certainly more productive. I could answer Steve Petruzzellis at once but he's a fool who screws around to effect his yearning to call everyone a fool. Can you get over it? Sandman can create a virtual machine. Rips what that Mac can do to shreds! Just look at your scripts and look at mine, there is nothing for Sandman to learn from a small time player like Steve Petruzzellis. But knock yourself out, let him keep making an imbecile of himself. I am sure one of his stooges will come to the rescue. Steve Petruzzellis is repeatedly seen insisting "CANNOT BE FOUND" when it comes to info on the Internet where information is there multiple times... but Steve Petruzzellis is just too dull-witted and/or distracted to recognize any instruction he finds. -- My Snoring Solution! https://redd.it/6sfkup https://youtu.be/u4xD43Khhkw https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/smzXrBhsWf4 Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-11 02:12 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <754fda6e-589d-40a1-8b19-06dad2c794b9@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471430 |
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 12:38:12 PM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:57:04 AM UTC-7, Steve Carroll wrote:
> > On Wednesday, October 10, 2018 at 7:33:50 AM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> > > On 10/5/2018 4:43 PM, Sam O'Nella wrote:
> > > > On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:50:45 -0400, DFS wrote:
> > >
> > > <snip>
> > >
> > > >> Slimer, I hope this example has provided you a deeper understanding of
> > > >> "feeling Snitty".
> > > >
> > > > Fuck that's good.
> > > > Are you a Doctor of "snitology" ?
> > >
> > >
> > > heh!
> > >
> > > Snit could easily be a case study in an Abnormal Psychology course.
> > >
> > > He insults people in the body of his posts, while his .sig says
> > > "personal attacks show you're insecure".
> > >
> > > Snit: "Honest". "Honorable". Hypocrite.
> >
> >
> >
> > Flatfish is a moron people have kf'd his bot posts. What he really should use is a bot that keeps switching names, then they'd have a shot at being half as bothersome as he is.
> >
> > You refuse to take blame for your own actions. Words that are easily seen to be trolling. I have known toddlers who argue better than Flatfish does.
> >
> > -
> > My Snoring Solution
> > https://youtu.be/r7wys2JvBD0
> > https://goo.gl/Fho5Nq
> > https://youtu.be/BUjnZhKk1Bg
> > Jonas Eklundh Communication
>
>
>
> Steve Petruzzellis has yet to show how LibreOffice does anything above the LCD on Linux. All that matters is that Steve Petruzzellis gets to deliver his poorly written flyer and then hang up and giggle about it. The fact that Sandman is an involuntary target on the other end of the phone is his motivation.
>
> What Sandman does is certainly more productive. I could answer Steve Petruzzellis at once but he's a fool who screws around to effect his yearning to call everyone a fool. Can you get over it?
>
> Sandman can create a virtual machine. Rips what that Mac can do to shreds! Just look at your scripts and look at mine, there is nothing for Sandman to learn from a small time player like Steve Petruzzellis. But knock yourself out, let him keep making an imbecile of himself. I am sure one of his stooges will come to the rescue.
>
> Steve Petruzzellis is repeatedly seen insisting "CANNOT BE FOUND" when it comes to info on the Internet where information is there multiple times... but Steve Petruzzellis is just too dull-witted and/or distracted to recognize any instruction he finds.
>
> --
> My Snoring Solution!
> https://redd.it/6sfkup
> https://youtu.be/u4xD43Khhkw
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.os.linux.advocacy/smzXrBhsWf4
> Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
The herd members value the LCD instead of choice. I'd respond to Flatfish honestly but he is a moron who plays trolling games to fulfill his desire to call everyone a troll. You can say I am James Bond for all I care. Frankly I do not really think you understand.
Just some names Steve Carroll has used
"Evil" John *
"Evil" Snit *
Big Crotch on a Small Fish
Cornelius Munshower
CSMA Moderator
Edward Stanfield
Fretwiz *
Hitman Hero
Measles
Petruzzellis Kids
Sigmond
Slaveen
Smit
Steve C *
Steve Camoll *
Steve Carroll <noone@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll <stevecarroll@xxxxxxxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll <trollkiller@xxxxxx> *
Steve Carroll's Dog *
Steve Carrolll *
Steve Carrroll *
Yevette Owens
Yobo_Obyo
At one point, Flatfish said an online denizen was "obsessing" over him, which was identified as responding to any name he uses.
--
Eight things to never feed your dog!
https://youtu.be/m37dF5X2S-4
http://www.5z8.info/boobs_j0v3qo_dont-just-drizzle
Jonas Eklundh
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-12 12:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <g2casiFlv3oU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #471381 |
On 10/10/18 7:34 AM, DFS wrote: > On 10/5/2018 4:43 PM, Sam O'Nella wrote: >> On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:50:45 -0400, DFS wrote: > > <snip> > >>> Slimer, I hope this example has provided you a deeper understanding of >>> "feeling Snitty". >> >> Fuck that's good. >> Are you a Doctor of "snitology" ? > > > heh! > > Snit could easily be a case study in an Abnormal Psychology course. > > He insults people in the body of his posts, while his .sig says > "personal attacks show you're insecure". > > Snit: "Honest". "Honorable". Hypocrite. > > Your obsession with me is extreme, and yet you show no examples. Odd. -- Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel somehow superior by attacking the messenger. They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>
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| From | Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-10-12 12:42 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <f4ffc8ed-9cea-46a4-b55a-7145ec68c59b@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #471715 |
On Friday, October 12, 2018 at 12:27:16 PM UTC-7, Snit wrote: > On 10/10/18 7:34 AM, DFS wrote: > > On 10/5/2018 4:43 PM, Sam O'Nella wrote: > >> On Fri, 5 Oct 2018 12:50:45 -0400, DFS wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > >>> Slimer, I hope this example has provided you a deeper understanding of > >>> "feeling Snitty". > >> > >> Fuck that's good. > >> Are you a Doctor of "snitology" ? > > > > > > heh! > > > > Snit could easily be a case study in an Abnormal Psychology course. > > > > He insults people in the body of his posts, while his .sig says > > "personal attacks show you're insecure". > > > > Snit: "Honest". "Honorable". Hypocrite. > > > > > > Your obsession with me is extreme, and yet you show no examples. Odd. > > -- > Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They > cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel > somehow superior by attacking the messenger. > > They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again. > > <https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308> So he changed his story to Klaus Schadenfreude "mentioning" him. Right, Chris 'Super Troll' Ahlstrom is pushing to retail an HTML reference, which Klaus Schadenfreude can get blindfolded. If he wasn't so lost he'd realize how clueless he sounds ;) It was Chris 'Super Troll' Ahlstrom who stated that he and his college buddies used to rip off customers all the time and it was fun. Chris 'Super Troll' Ahlstrom has yet to show how any Linux program does anything above the lowest common denominator on Linux. I do not know if there is a encumbered open source program to handle such tasks. Thus, my original statement stands literal and correct. Chris 'Super Troll' Ahlstrom's posts are all duplicitous. There is no dispute that as soon as any exonerated 'plonkee' does anything to offend the poor daisy's feelings that they'll be put right back in the kill filter. -- Puppy Videos! https://youtu.be/lF8yk7ul4Mw http://www.5z8.info/freeanimalporn.com-start-download_s9j7do_dogporn Jonas Eklundh Communication AB
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