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| Started by | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| First post | 2024-12-28 08:54 -0500 |
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How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 08:54 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-28 19:40 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-28 15:09 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-29 00:58 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-29 07:48 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-30 19:10 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-30 20:50 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2024-12-31 07:25 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:46 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2024-12-31 17:40 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-01 02:29 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 21:51 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-01-01 06:42 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-02 13:14 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-02 14:57 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 08:11 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-03 08:37 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-03 20:41 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-03 14:50 -0600
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 07:34 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-03 17:01 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 07:37 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-01-04 07:58 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-06 20:08 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-04 10:11 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 13:42 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 09:41 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 10:08 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 13:53 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-06 19:23 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 07:49 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-07 09:07 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 08:42 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-07 21:58 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-08 09:02 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-01-10 02:13 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-10 07:02 -0600
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-10 10:03 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:22 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 07:27 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 07:46 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 08:18 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2025-01-11 07:35 -0600
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-11 09:36 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:22 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:18 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 08:26 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:25 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 09:57 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 11:00 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 11:06 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-12 08:21 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-12 09:32 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 12:29 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-01-13 09:58 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-14 11:01 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-11 20:25 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 09:19 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-05 22:10 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 16:27 -0600
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-01-04 09:29 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 18:47 -0600
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-03 20:02 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-03 20:08 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-05 10:42 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-05 13:25 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 20:50 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 10:23 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 10:56 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Jack Sovalot <hee-cawkforme@jack.sovalot> - 2025-01-06 12:29 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:19 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:12 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 14:21 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:38 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 15:00 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 15:53 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-01-06 19:58 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-06 12:29 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 12:37 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:27 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-01-06 14:42 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Beavis <beavis@corn.holio> - 2025-01-06 14:50 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Beavis <beavis@corn.holio> - 2025-01-06 14:45 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:51 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> - 2025-01-06 15:35 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2025-01-06 14:19 -0500
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-01-04 07:29 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2024-12-31 02:32 +0000
Re: How quickly a bug gets fixed... Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> - 2024-12-31 08:39 -0500
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 08:54 -0500 |
| Subject | How quickly a bug gets fixed... |
| Message-ID | <vqTbP.82759$DYF8.19890@fx14.iad> |
After installing Fedora 41 yesterday, I noticed a bug where unplugging my laptop would result in the screen's brightness going to 0%. You couldn't increase the brightness at all and had to plug it back in to see what you were doing. People in Fedora's own forums mentioned that the quickest resolution was to change the power plan to Performance which was obviously not ideal if preserving power was the objective. Anyways, I got an update today. It's already fixed. In summary: ASUS has yet to fix an fTPM bug with AMD processors discovered in 2021 yet Fedora fixes an annoyance within a few days (I experienced it yesterday but it was reported to the developers a few days earlier). -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 19:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltb2i9Fov8dU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #681462 |
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 08:54:34 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > In summary: ASUS has yet to fix an fTPM bug with AMD processors > discovered in 2021 yet Fedora fixes an annoyance within a few days (I > experienced it yesterday but it was reported to the developers a few > days earlier). I haven't moved to 41 but the KDE spin of 40 was a little rocky when it rolled out but the issues were fixed very rapidly. I think most were from the KDE/Wayland side.
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2024-12-28 15:09 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <9WYbP.143460$bYV2.133865@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #681491 |
On 2024-12-28 14:40, rbowman wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 08:54:34 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > >> In summary: ASUS has yet to fix an fTPM bug with AMD processors >> discovered in 2021 yet Fedora fixes an annoyance within a few days (I >> experienced it yesterday but it was reported to the developers a few >> days earlier). > > I haven't moved to 41 but the KDE spin of 40 was a little rocky when it > rolled out but the issues were fixed very rapidly. I think most were from > the KDE/Wayland side. I'm actually trying hard to find bugs in Fedora 41. I'm surprised that it works as well as it does. The one issue I did come up with is that the machine doesn't stick to Hybrid mode with NVIDIA, and reverts to Integrated on its own. When it does that, I am incapable of running my external monitor through a USB-C hub. I can either plug it directly to an HDMI port or log in, set it to Hybrid, log out, log in and try again. It's not a big issue though. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 00:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltbl6gFrgqvU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #681495 |
On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 15:09:41 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > I'm actually trying hard to find bugs in Fedora 41. I'm surprised that > it works as well as it does. The one issue I did come up with is that > the machine doesn't stick to Hybrid mode with NVIDIA, and reverts to > Integrated on its own. When it does that, I am incapable of running my > external monitor through a USB-C hub. I can either plug it directly to > an HDMI port or log in, set it to Hybrid, log out, log in and try again. > It's not a big issue though. The Fedora box goes through a 4 channel KVM with HDMI so no problem for me. The first couple of weeks Firefox tended to crash or sometimes there wouldn't be a desktop but that was fixed. I didn't have a problem but QGIS warned some dialogs might not render correctly but I think the Wayland tweaks took care of that.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-29 07:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vkqurt$r9pg$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #681491 |
On 2024-12-28, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Dec 2024 08:54:34 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > >> In summary: ASUS has yet to fix an fTPM bug with AMD processors >> discovered in 2021 yet Fedora fixes an annoyance within a few days (I >> experienced it yesterday but it was reported to the developers a few >> days earlier). > > I haven't moved to 41 but the KDE spin of 40 was a little rocky when it > rolled out but the issues were fixed very rapidly. I think most were from > the KDE/Wayland side. I just updated to 41 yesterday, but I haven't done much with the Fedora laptop yet. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 19:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vkvcpb$1rt3s$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #681462 |
On 12/28/2024 8:54 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > After installing Fedora 41 yesterday, wtf? It's one of the wokest distros of all, with a code of conduct, DEI galore, and a "Week of Diversity". That's a hard pass for me.
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2024-12-30 20:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <06IcP.24115$DPp5.21507@fx01.iad> |
| In reply to | #681803 |
On 2024-12-30 19:10, DFS wrote: > On 12/28/2024 8:54 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > >> After installing Fedora 41 yesterday, > > > wtf? > > It's one of the wokest distros of all, with a code of conduct, DEI > galore, and a "Week of Diversity". > > That's a hard pass for me. It's the one asus-linux.org provides a guide for and so far, everything works as it should. I have no idea if there even is a non-woke Linux distribution anymore. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41 KDE supporting member
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 07:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl06a5$24le6$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #681815 |
On 2024-12-31, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2024-12-30 19:10, DFS wrote: >> On 12/28/2024 8:54 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >> >>> After installing Fedora 41 yesterday, >> >> >> wtf? >> >> It's one of the wokest distros of all, with a code of conduct, DEI >> galore, and a "Week of Diversity". >> >> That's a hard pass for me. > > It's the one asus-linux.org provides a guide for and so far, everything > works as it should. I have no idea if there even is a non-woke Linux > distribution anymore. You're getting lectured from someone who touts Woke Microsoft. But you're right, there really isn't much in the IT industry that isn't Woke anymore... but it's starting to turn around (I think). Microsoft's DEI page... https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/diversity/default?oneroute=true -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 08:46 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <hBScP.13172$XfF8.2926@fx04.iad> |
| In reply to | #681832 |
On 2024-12-31 02:25, RonB wrote: > On 2024-12-31, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >> On 2024-12-30 19:10, DFS wrote: >>> On 12/28/2024 8:54 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>> >>>> After installing Fedora 41 yesterday, >>> >>> >>> wtf? >>> >>> It's one of the wokest distros of all, with a code of conduct, DEI >>> galore, and a "Week of Diversity". >>> >>> That's a hard pass for me. >> >> It's the one asus-linux.org provides a guide for and so far, everything >> works as it should. I have no idea if there even is a non-woke Linux >> distribution anymore. > > You're getting lectured from someone who touts Woke Microsoft. But you're > right, there really isn't much in the IT industry that isn't Woke anymore... > but it's starting to turn around (I think). > > Microsoft's DEI page... > > https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/diversity/default?oneroute=true Lunduke released a video yesterday confirming that Microsoft is doubling down on its diversity efforts and will continue to help employees transition their three-year-olds to a different gender. It looks like the corporation hasn't yet been cured of its mind virus. Of course, with a guy like Bill Gates around, there is probably no chance that it will happen. Still, if there's a KDE distribution out there which can proudly say that it is non-woke, I'll look into it. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41 KDE supporting member
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 17:40 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vl1rtk$2e5dv$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #681815 |
On 12/30/2024 8:50 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > On 2024-12-30 19:10, DFS wrote: >> On 12/28/2024 8:54 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >> >>> After installing Fedora 41 yesterday, >> >> >> wtf? >> >> It's one of the wokest distros of all, with a code of conduct, DEI >> galore, and a "Week of Diversity". >> >> That's a hard pass for me. > > It's the one asus-linux.org provides a guide for and so far, everything > works as it should. I have no idea if there even is a non-woke Linux > distribution anymore. There are. 11 of the the Top 25 on distrowatch I looked at a few months ago had no code of conduct or DEI statement on their website (doing a cursory search) MX Linux Mint EndeavourOS Pop!_OS Zorin CachyOS (tho the founder specified he/him pronouns) Garuda Sparky Tuxedo Kali EasyOS
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-01 02:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltjnjkF61fhU8@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #681939 |
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:40:53 -0500, DFS wrote: > There are. 11 of the the Top 25 on distrowatch I looked at a few months > ago had no code of conduct or DEI statement on their website (doing a > cursory search) > > MX Linux Mint EndeavourOS Pop!_OS Zorin CachyOS (tho the founder > specified he/him pronouns) > Garuda Sparky Tuxedo Kali EasyOS I have Kali running in WSL. I like it but it's Debian with pentest tools conveniently packaged. Most of the rest are Debian based, or one step removed Ubuntu. EndeavourOS is Arch based and the Arch wiki claims politics aren't involved only technical merits. I'm not sure about EasyOS. Does the one drop rule apply to Linux distros?
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2024-12-31 21:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <052dP.191182$bYV2.33181@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #681939 |
On 2024-12-31 17:40, DFS wrote: > On 12/30/2024 8:50 PM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >> On 2024-12-30 19:10, DFS wrote: >>> On 12/28/2024 8:54 AM, Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>> >>>> After installing Fedora 41 yesterday, >>> >>> >>> wtf? >>> >>> It's one of the wokest distros of all, with a code of conduct, DEI >>> galore, and a "Week of Diversity". >>> >>> That's a hard pass for me. >> >> It's the one asus-linux.org provides a guide for and so far, >> everything works as it should. I have no idea if there even is a non- >> woke Linux distribution anymore. > > > There are. 11 of the the Top 25 on distrowatch I looked at a few months > ago had no code of conduct or DEI statement on their website (doing a > cursory search) > > MX Linux > Mint > EndeavourOS > Pop!_OS > Zorin > CachyOS (tho the founder specified he/him pronouns) > Garuda > Sparky > Tuxedo > Kali > EasyOS I already like Mint quite a bit, admittedly. Nevertheless, I'm already comfortable in Fedora and don't feel like hopping over for the time being. All my original concerns with using Linux are also addressed in this distribution, and the experience is no worse than using Windows. In fact, it's superior as a result of the machine's greater responsiveness. I'm also a fan of KDE and Fedora's spin on it is excellent. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41 KDE supporting member
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| From | Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-01 06:42 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl2o58$2m3lk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #681939 |
On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:40:53 -0500, DFS wrote: > 11 of the the Top 25 on distrowatch I looked at a few months > ago had no code of conduct or DEI statement on their website (doing a > cursory search) ... I wonder what you think needs to be said. Do they have to declare that they do not condone slavery? Or is that understood these days?
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| From | DFS <guhnoo-basher@linux.advocaca> |
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| Date | 2025-01-02 13:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vl6l1j$3f1es$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #682022 |
On 1/1/2025 1:42 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:40:53 -0500, DFS wrote: > >> 11 of the the Top 25 on distrowatch I looked at a few months >> ago had no code of conduct or DEI statement on their website (doing a >> cursory search) ... > > I wonder what you think needs to be said. Do they have to declare that > they do not condone slavery? Or is that understood these days? It's not what needs to be said. It's what needs to NOT be said. Nobody needs an explicit "code of conduct" to guide their behavior (or face increasing levels of penalties as judged by The Council...ooohhh!!!). And nobody needs to be told a computer OS website and conference events are "welcoming nurturing safe spaces for everyone". Fedora DEI page: "Our key focuses are to engage, empower, and celebrate the contributions of women, LGBT+, BIPOC, and people with disabilities in Free and Open Source projects and communities." gag. Contributions by females, queers, jigs and disabled people have always been welcomed in software... on the technical merits of the contributions. But overwhelmingly, straight White males have created the world's computer technology, and apparently that FACT needs to be "corrected" by shoving blue-haired dykes in our faces. Pathetically, the straight White males that started these distros and technologies are social weaklings, and are allowing DEI and woke sickness to be plastered all over their distros.
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2025-01-02 14:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <4dCdP.414403$bYV2.127384@fx17.iad> |
| In reply to | #682302 |
On 2025-01-02 13:14, DFS wrote: > On 1/1/2025 1:42 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:40:53 -0500, DFS wrote: >> >>> 11 of the the Top 25 on distrowatch I looked at a few months >>> ago had no code of conduct or DEI statement on their website (doing a >>> cursory search) ... >> >> I wonder what you think needs to be said. Do they have to declare that >> they do not condone slavery? Or is that understood these days? > > > It's not what needs to be said. It's what needs to NOT be said. Nobody > needs an explicit "code of conduct" to guide their behavior (or face > increasing levels of penalties as judged by The Council...ooohhh!!!). > And nobody needs to be told a computer OS website and conference events > are "welcoming nurturing safe spaces for everyone". > > Fedora DEI page: > "Our key focuses are to engage, empower, and celebrate the contributions > of women, LGBT+, BIPOC, and people with disabilities in Free and Open > Source projects and communities." > > gag. Contributions by females, queers, jigs and disabled people have > always been welcomed in software... on the technical merits of the > contributions. > > But overwhelmingly, straight White males have created the world's > computer technology, and apparently that FACT needs to be "corrected" by > shoving blue-haired dykes in our faces. Pathetically, the straight > White males that started these distros and technologies are social > weaklings, and are allowing DEI and woke sickness to be plastered all > over their distros. I made an account on the Fedora page and I was given the option to choose pronouns to be referred by. It was disheartening but it was clearly an option. -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41 KDE supporting member
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 08:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vl8637$3qk05$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #682367 |
On 2025-01-02, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: > On 2025-01-02 13:14, DFS wrote: >> On 1/1/2025 1:42 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:40:53 -0500, DFS wrote: >>> >>>> 11 of the the Top 25 on distrowatch I looked at a few months >>>> ago had no code of conduct or DEI statement on their website (doing a >>>> cursory search) ... >>> >>> I wonder what you think needs to be said. Do they have to declare that >>> they do not condone slavery? Or is that understood these days? >> >> >> It's not what needs to be said. It's what needs to NOT be said. Nobody >> needs an explicit "code of conduct" to guide their behavior (or face >> increasing levels of penalties as judged by The Council...ooohhh!!!). >> And nobody needs to be told a computer OS website and conference events >> are "welcoming nurturing safe spaces for everyone". >> >> Fedora DEI page: >> "Our key focuses are to engage, empower, and celebrate the contributions >> of women, LGBT+, BIPOC, and people with disabilities in Free and Open >> Source projects and communities." >> >> gag. Contributions by females, queers, jigs and disabled people have >> always been welcomed in software... on the technical merits of the >> contributions. >> >> But overwhelmingly, straight White males have created the world's >> computer technology, and apparently that FACT needs to be "corrected" by >> shoving blue-haired dykes in our faces. Pathetically, the straight >> White males that started these distros and technologies are social >> weaklings, and are allowing DEI and woke sickness to be plastered all >> over their distros. > > I made an account on the Fedora page and I was given the option to > choose pronouns to be referred by. It was disheartening but it was > clearly an option. The last time I filled out something at the doctor's office they had a crap form like that also. -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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| From | Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 08:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jKRdP.297212$DYF8.257434@fx14.iad> |
| In reply to | #682476 |
On 2025-01-03 03:11, RonB wrote: > On 2025-01-02, Andrzej Matuch <andrzej@matu.ch> wrote: >> On 2025-01-02 13:14, DFS wrote: >>> On 1/1/2025 1:42 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: >>>> On Tue, 31 Dec 2024 17:40:53 -0500, DFS wrote: >>>> >>>>> 11 of the the Top 25 on distrowatch I looked at a few months >>>>> ago had no code of conduct or DEI statement on their website (doing a >>>>> cursory search) ... >>>> >>>> I wonder what you think needs to be said. Do they have to declare that >>>> they do not condone slavery? Or is that understood these days? >>> >>> >>> It's not what needs to be said. It's what needs to NOT be said. Nobody >>> needs an explicit "code of conduct" to guide their behavior (or face >>> increasing levels of penalties as judged by The Council...ooohhh!!!). >>> And nobody needs to be told a computer OS website and conference events >>> are "welcoming nurturing safe spaces for everyone". >>> >>> Fedora DEI page: >>> "Our key focuses are to engage, empower, and celebrate the contributions >>> of women, LGBT+, BIPOC, and people with disabilities in Free and Open >>> Source projects and communities." >>> >>> gag. Contributions by females, queers, jigs and disabled people have >>> always been welcomed in software... on the technical merits of the >>> contributions. >>> >>> But overwhelmingly, straight White males have created the world's >>> computer technology, and apparently that FACT needs to be "corrected" by >>> shoving blue-haired dykes in our faces. Pathetically, the straight >>> White males that started these distros and technologies are social >>> weaklings, and are allowing DEI and woke sickness to be plastered all >>> over their distros. >> >> I made an account on the Fedora page and I was given the option to >> choose pronouns to be referred by. It was disheartening but it was >> clearly an option. > > The last time I filled out something at the doctor's office they had a crap > form like that also. I can't imagine being such a spoiled brat that you would get offended that the doctor didn't address what is an obvious guy as "miss" during the check-up you've waited hours for. The fact that people are going along with this is bothering me immensely. Mostly, it is because when the authorities come along and tell us that we won't be able to buy and sell unless we accept a chip in our foreheads or hands and renounce Christ, few if any will resist. They didn't resist the vaccine, they didn't resist the mask, they didn't resist the pronoun garbage; why would they resist the Mark? -- Andrzej (Andre) Matuch Telegram: @AndrzejMatuch Zephyrus G14 GA401QM on Fedora 41 KDE supporting member
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| From | rbowman <bowman@montana.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 20:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ltr0bkFbo5pU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #682521 |
On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 08:37:19 -0500, Andrzej Matuch wrote: > They didn't resist the vaccine, they > didn't resist the mask, they didn't resist the pronoun garbage; why > would they resist the Mark? I skipped the vaccine and had my useless, Chinese made, N0 muzzle to get me into CostCo, but how do you 'resist' the pronoun garbage? What amuses me is the 'White non-Hispanic' category. Are they trying to imply Hispanics aren't white?
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-01-03 14:50 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <t3jgnj1d3gv179ujdh91i3puu8iu46gc8o@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #682574 |
rbowman wrote: > Andrzej Matuch wrote: >> >> They didn't resist the vaccine, they >> didn't resist the mask, they didn't resist the pronoun garbage; why >> would they resist the Mark? > >I skipped the vaccine and had my useless, Chinese made, N0 muzzle to get >me into CostCo, but how do you 'resist' the pronoun garbage? By refusing to refer to a man who claims to be a woman as "she", for example. Or by refusing to tell people my pronouns, when it couldn't be more obvious. I'm just glad that it's never come up in my life, lest I be accused of a "hate crime". >What amuses me is the 'White non-Hispanic' category. Are they trying to >imply Hispanics aren't white? Are they white? I don't consider them to be.
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| From | RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-01-04 07:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vlaoau$c5ch$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #682577 |
On 2025-01-03, chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote: > rbowman wrote: > >> Andrzej Matuch wrote: >>> >>> They didn't resist the vaccine, they >>> didn't resist the mask, they didn't resist the pronoun garbage; why >>> would they resist the Mark? >> >>I skipped the vaccine and had my useless, Chinese made, N0 muzzle to get >>me into CostCo, but how do you 'resist' the pronoun garbage? > > By refusing to refer to a man who claims to be a woman as "she", for > example. Or by refusing to tell people my pronouns, when it couldn't > be more obvious. I'm just glad that it's never come up in my life, > lest I be accused of a "hate crime". > >>What amuses me is the 'White non-Hispanic' category. Are they trying to >>imply Hispanics aren't white? > > Are they white? I don't consider them to be. I'm trying to figure why it even matters. So they can claim two checkmarks in the ethnicity list, like Kamala's Indian and black (and white)? Why not "white, non-Italian" or "white, non-Scandinavian," or...? -- “Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy what has been invented or made by the forces of good.” —J.R.R. Tolkien
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