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  For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-26 17:46 +0000
    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 19:14 +0000
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 17:37 -0400
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 18:50 -0400
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 17:20 -0700
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-26 23:16 +0000
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-26 16:20 -0700
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 19:24 -0400
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-26 23:36 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 19:58 -0400
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-27 00:10 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 20:53 -0400
                  No automatic updates, Windows 10. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-27 04:51 -0700
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:59 +0000
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:40 +0000
                    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 21:53 +0000
                    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 07:15 -0500
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:54 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 21:02 -0400
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 15:39 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-27 12:20 -0400
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:51 +0000
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:00 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-28 07:09 -0400
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:49 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 21:59 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-28 07:08 -0400
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 16:17 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:10 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:38 +0000
    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 19:45 -0400
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:58 +0000
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-28 07:11 -0400
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 12:28 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 07:56 -0500
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 14:56 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 10:40 -0500
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 15:52 +0000
                    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 15:25 -0500
                      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 21:05 +0000
                        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:08 +0000
                          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-30 07:22 -0400
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 20:48 +0000
                              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-01 14:58 -0400
                                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 19:31 +0000
                                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-01 19:03 -0400
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 01:53 -0700
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-01 07:49 -0500
                              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-01 13:44 +0000
                              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 07:06 -0700
                              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-01 14:53 -0400
                        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-01 07:45 -0500
                          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 09:12 -0700
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:29 -0700
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-01 18:33 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:24 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 15:28 -0500
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 22:06 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 16:18 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:16 +0000
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 20:59 -0400
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 15:37 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 15:41 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 16:00 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 17:01 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 21:49 +0000
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-28 02:03 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:57 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-27 13:15 -0700
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:06 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:14 +0000
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 16:40 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:54 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:04 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:10 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:33 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 16:36 +0000
    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-27 12:28 +0000
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 15:35 +0000
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-27 12:00 -0400

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#469066

On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 21:02:51 -0400, Sam O'Nella wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:54:01 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:24:06 -0400, Sam O'Nella wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:16:41 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:14:02 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>>>>>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>>>>>>> fixed?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the
>>>>>> benchmark in question is skewed for Windows.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps it actually has some benefits for gaming.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only thing that would make me abandon Linux now is the knowledge
>>>>> that social justice warriors indeed implemented a Code of Conduct
>>>>> which benefited "diversity" over quality code by making it more
>>>>> important to have blacks and homosexuals adding to the kernel than
>>>>> people who actually know what they're doing.
>>>> 
>>>> And as predicted here it comes. Get ready for the slimer returning to
>>>> Windows posts. So who had the pool predicting this? I claim winner
>>>> status.
>>>> 
>>>> Slimer, why not admit it?
>>>> You know Linux sucks.
>>> 
>>> It actually doesn't.
>>> 
>>>> Your privacy issues with Windows mean zero because you are using the
>>>> same search engines, the same email addresses, the same ISP, etc under
>>>> Windows that you use under Linux so your privacy is exposed either
>>>> way.
>>> 
>>> The same ISP is true, but my e-mail address is different (mostly
>>> because Unseen can't seem to fix their smtp server) and my search
>>> engine of choice respects privacy.
>>> 
>>>> Why not be honest and admit Linux does nothing, in your particular
>>>> case,
>>>> better than Windows?
>>> 
>>> Desktop security and stability are two things it does better. It also
>>> plays older games better.
>>> 
>>>> You know it's true.
>>> 
>>> I don't.
>>> 
>>>> Everyone who has used Linux and a modern version of Windows knows the
>>>> same thing.
>>> 
>>> Windows has a lot more issues than GNU/Linux does, the way I see it.
>>> It's a complete mess when it comes to consistency and driver support is
>>> kind of a joke as well, especially on Bluetooth for some reason on my
>>> machine.
>>> The 4.15 Linux kernel supports my BT chip perfectly but Windows, even
>>> with the manufacturer's own driver, can't seem to get its act together.
>> 
>> And where does this fit in the overall scheme of things?
>> Come one, you're not fooling anyone.
>> Windows isn't perfect, we all know that, but to claim, as a
>> non-programmer,
>> cli junkie, that Linux is superior is just kidding yourself.
>> You know it.
>> Linux users know it.
>> Everyone knows it.
>> Come clean already. The jig is up.
>
> What I know for a fact is that I don't need to worry about malware and 
> updates taking over my computer while using GNU/Linux. Not only that, but 
> installing and trying out applications is a lot easier when you don't 
> have to venture onto some obscure website and install it manually. 
> Repositories are the greatest thing and it's a shame Microsoft hasn't yet 
> seen the benefit of having one for all applications, not just the shite 
> they put in the Windows Store.

M$ can't do that, they cannot use GPL-ed software as part of OS.

>
>
>


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#469082

On 9/27/2018 11:39 AM, SilverSlimer wrote:

> Repositories are the greatest thing and it's a shame Microsoft hasn't yet
> seen the benefit of having one for all applications, not just the shite
> they put in the Windows Store.

Repos are great, no doubt.  But it's unreasonable to expect MS to run a 
huge ecommerce site to distribute 3rd party commercial code.

https://chocolatey.org  is growing pretty fast.

"There are 6021 community maintained packages"

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#469122

On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>
> What I know for a fact is that I don't need to worry about malware and 
> updates taking over my computer while using GNU/Linux. Not only that, but 
> installing and trying out applications is a lot easier when you don't 
> have to venture onto some obscure website and install it manually. 
> Repositories are the greatest thing and it's a shame Microsoft hasn't yet 
> seen the benefit of having one for all applications, not just the shite 
> they put in the Windows Store.

Yep. Microsoft can't do repositories because everything is set up to make a 
profit and create a "need" to upgrade. Linux is made by people who want a 
good operating system.

That's why ALL of the top super computers run Linux.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#469162

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 18:51:22 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>
>> What I know for a fact is that I don't need to worry about malware and
>> updates taking over my computer while using GNU/Linux. Not only that,
>> but installing and trying out applications is a lot easier when you
>> don't have to venture onto some obscure website and install it
>> manually. Repositories are the greatest thing and it's a shame
>> Microsoft hasn't yet seen the benefit of having one for all
>> applications, not just the shite they put in the Windows Store.
> 
> Yep. Microsoft can't do repositories because everything is set up to
> make a profit and create a "need" to upgrade. Linux is made by people
> who want a good operating system.
> 
> That's why ALL of the top super computers run Linux.

I don't doubt it. I take great joy in knowing that most of the software 
I'll need is available through an apt-cache search or through an apt 
install. It's a _lot_ easier than scouring the web and finding the real 
site for a piece of software through dozens of authentic-looking site 
which deploy malware instead of what you want.

Death to a life without repositories.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469226

SilverSlimer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 21:02:51 -0400, Sam O'Nella wrote:
>
> <shit snipped>

Another idiot anti-Linux troll here.  Hoodathunkit?

> What I know for a fact is that I don't need to worry about malware and 
> updates taking over my computer while using GNU/Linux. Not only that, but 
> installing and trying out applications is a lot easier when you don't 
> have to venture onto some obscure website and install it manually. 
> Repositories are the greatest thing and it's a shame Microsoft hasn't yet 
> seen the benefit of having one for all applications, not just the shite 
> they put in the Windows Store.

 +1

-- 
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#469121

On 2018-09-27, Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> wrote:
>
> And where does this fit in the overall scheme of things?
> Come one, you're not fooling anyone.
> Windows isn't perfect, we all know that, but to claim, as a non-programmer,
> cli junkie, that Linux is superior is just kidding yourself.
> You know it.
> Linux users know it.
> Everyone knows it.
> Come clean already. The jig is up.

What I know is you're a full of crap troll and I know you know it. 

Windows ... drive by ransomware and viruses. Guessing if the latest update 
will kill the install EVERY time. Bitrot. Blue screens of death. Extremely 
long upgrades (with reboots). No standard repositories. The pathetic 
Registry (guaranteed to fail on a regular basis). Reports back to the 
Mothership. Duns you to buy new software. Created by Sleazeball Gates.

Shall I go on?

If Microsoft ever made a product that didn't suck ... it would be a vacuum 
cleaner.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#469161

On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 18:49:39 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-27, Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> wrote:
>>
>> And where does this fit in the overall scheme of things?
>> Come one, you're not fooling anyone.
>> Windows isn't perfect, we all know that, but to claim, as a
>> non-programmer,
>> cli junkie, that Linux is superior is just kidding yourself.
>> You know it.
>> Linux users know it.
>> Everyone knows it.
>> Come clean already. The jig is up.
> 
> What I know is you're a full of crap troll and I know you know it.
> 
> Windows ... drive by ransomware and viruses.

I denied this for a long time and didn't want to believe it to be true 
but it absolutely is. The only thing that can protect you is a decent 
anti-virus and even them, you have to hope that it is updated regularly. 

> Guessing if the latest
> update will kill the install EVERY time.

Absolutely true. I've had to fix other people's computers quite a few 
times because of a failed update and I recall having issues of the sort 
myself with the last three versions. Mine were fairly minimal though.

> Bitrot.

Had a few MP3s stop loading from this and I had to restore previous 
versions of the same files to fix it so I know this to be true.

> Blue screens of death.

Also true and often caused by bad drivers, not even faulty hardware. The 
worst part is that Windows is absolutely terrible at actually telling you 
what caused the issue.

> Extremely long upgrades (with reboots).

Anyone who installs 7, 8, 8.1 or 10 from scratch knows this to be true.

> No standard repositories.

An enormous weakness, IMO.

> The
> pathetic Registry (guaranteed to fail on a regular basis).

My last Windows installation was set up and used exactly as Microsoft 
intended with no registry cleaner and even then, it failed. Absolutely 
pathetic when you consider how well paid the developers are and what 
their education was. 

> Reports back
> to the Mothership.

By itself an excellent reason to stop using Windows.

> Duns you to buy new software. Created by Sleazeball
> Gates.
> 
> Shall I go on?
> 
> If Microsoft ever made a product that didn't suck ... it would be a
> vacuum cleaner.

I'd love to deny all of the above but you are absolutely spot on.



-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469225

SilverSlimer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Windows has a lot more issues than GNU/Linux does, the way I see it. It's 
> a complete mess when it comes to consistency and driver support is kind 
> of a joke as well, especially on Bluetooth for some reason on my machine. 
> The 4.15 Linux kernel supports my BT chip perfectly but Windows, even 
> with the manufacturer's own driver, can't seem to get its act together.

Indeed.  Windows 10 + fulldiskencryption + mcafeescanner = slowashell.

Heck, when I come back from my desk and move the mouse, it takes seconds
for the password prompt to come up on Win 10.  Bleh.

-- 
Don't read any sky-writing for the next two weeks.

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#469259

On 2018-09-28, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> SilverSlimer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> Windows has a lot more issues than GNU/Linux does, the way I see it. It's 
>> a complete mess when it comes to consistency and driver support is kind 
>> of a joke as well, especially on Bluetooth for some reason on my machine. 
>> The 4.15 Linux kernel supports my BT chip perfectly but Windows, even 
>> with the manufacturer's own driver, can't seem to get its act together.
>
> Indeed.  Windows 10 + fulldiskencryption + mcafeescanner = slowashell.
>
> Heck, when I come back from my desk and move the mouse, it takes seconds
> for the password prompt to come up on Win 10.  Bleh.

People put up with Windows' issues because they don't think they have a 
choice. You become a Windows' "expert" by knowing how to get around all its 
many problems. The act of fixing Windows eventually becomes automatic so 
Windows' users don't even realize how much time and effort they're spending 
to keep the Malware Magnet OS running. If Windows was secure and you didn't 
need to run some kind of anti-virus a hundred percent of the time, it would 
probably be faster. As is, there's always a "lag" when moving around on the 
Internet. Its insecurity (and poor design) make it crap.

Linux provides a vastly superior user experience. 

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#469296

On Fri, 28 Sep 2018 07:08:10 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:

> SilverSlimer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> Windows has a lot more issues than GNU/Linux does, the way I see it.
>> It's a complete mess when it comes to consistency and driver support is
>> kind of a joke as well, especially on Bluetooth for some reason on my
>> machine.
>> The 4.15 Linux kernel supports my BT chip perfectly but Windows, even
>> with the manufacturer's own driver, can't seem to get its act together.
> 
> Indeed.  Windows 10 + fulldiskencryption + mcafeescanner = slowashell.

I never found all that slow to be fair with all of the above (but 
Bitdefender for an anti-virus) but I just found it sad that it was all 
necessary to have a semblance of security.
 
> Heck, when I come back from my desk and move the mouse, it takes seconds
> for the password prompt to come up on Win 10.  Bleh.

I think the only place where Windows really beats Linux, to this day, is 
in the ACPI department. Sleep and wake work better in Windows and I don't 
think it is possible to contest this in any way. 



-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469117

On 2018-09-26, Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> wrote:
> Everyone who has used Linux and a modern version of Windows knows the same
> thing.

The same thing "I know" is that this is bullshit.

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#468979

On 9/26/2018 1:46 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:

> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
> 
> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
> fixed?


Imminent return to Windows is imminent...

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#468997

On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:45:18 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 9/26/2018 1:46 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>> 
>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>> fixed?
> 
> 
> Imminent return to Windows is imminent...

If GNU/Linux's main developers start insisted that we refer to them as 
"ze" or "zir," most likely. 

I'll wait and see what this social justice warrior takeover ends up 
becoming.

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469227

SilverSlimer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:45:18 -0400, DFS wrote:
>
>> On 9/26/2018 1:46 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> 
>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>> 
>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>>> fixed?
>> 
>> 
>> Imminent return to Windows is imminent...
>
> If GNU/Linux's main developers start insisted that we refer to them as 
> "ze" or "zir," most likely. 
>
> I'll wait and see what this social justice warrior takeover ends up 
> becoming.

Who cares?  The code is what counts.

-- 
You tread upon my patience.
		-- William Shakespeare, "Henry IV"

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#469233

Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> SilverSlimer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:45:18 -0400, DFS wrote:
>>
>>> On 9/26/2018 1:46 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>>> 
>>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>>>> fixed?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Imminent return to Windows is imminent...
>>
>> If GNU/Linux's main developers start insisted that we refer to them as 
>> "ze" or "zir," most likely. 
>>
>> I'll wait and see what this social justice warrior takeover ends up 
>> becoming.
> 
> Who cares?  The code is what counts.
> 

These sorts of SJW Nazi tactics should not go unaddressed because
the potential for real damage is too great.

https://www.reddit.com/r/BSD/comments/80bavi/the_story_behind_freebsds_new_code_of_conduct/
<quote>
They believe that there needs to be 50% females in tech projects,
with an equal mix of races, or else there's evil systemic oppression,
and it's a white-boys' club where they enjoy unfair privileges of power
while others suffer.

...

The old code of conduct said that "FreeBSD is a meritocracy", but
Benno said that's wrong, because he believes that the system is rigged
against minorities, so we can't judge based on merit since they're at
a disadvantage.

He said that FreeBSD has a lot of white males, and not many females or
people of color, and the safe space is for them to feel better about
participating, because the goal is diversity, not merit and value from
your code.
</quote>

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#469237

owl wrote:

><quote>
>They believe that there needs to be 50% females in tech projects,
>with an equal mix of races, or else there's evil systemic oppression,
>and it's a white-boys' club where they enjoy unfair privileges of power
>while others suffer.

That's a claim of "they believe", and we all know how twisted and
dishonest such claims can be.

Where is the claim of "we believe"  that there needs to be 50% females
in tech projects, with an equal mix of races?

-- 
"On my Linux hobbyware system I can store 2,097,152 versions of the
file 'Micro$oft_is_crapware.txt'!  All because of case-sensitivity!
Isn't Linux great?!?!"  -  some dumb fsck

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#469248

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> owl wrote:
> 
>><quote>
>>They believe that there needs to be 50% females in tech projects,
>>with an equal mix of races, or else there's evil systemic oppression,
>>and it's a white-boys' club where they enjoy unfair privileges of power
>>while others suffer.
> 
> That's a claim of "they believe", and we all know how twisted and
> dishonest such claims can be.
> 
> Where is the claim of "we believe"  that there needs to be 50% females
> in tech projects, with an equal mix of races?
> 

Don't go assburger on me.  You know how informal language works.

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#469252

owl wrote:

>chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>> Where is the claim of "we believe"  that there needs to be 50% females
>> in tech projects, with an equal mix of races?
>
> Don't go assburger on me.  You know how informal language works.

Well, proof that the objective is to have "50% females in tech
projects, with an equal mix of races" would be quick and easy proof of
a completely ridiculous and unreasonable agenda.

I would think that the scare-mongers would have such evidence at the
ready, when asked.  If it was true, anyway.

-- 
"Modifying open source by an end user is a total waste of time."  -
some piece of shit that called itself "GreyCloud"

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#469254

chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> owl wrote:
> 
>>chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Where is the claim of "we believe"  that there needs to be 50% females
>>> in tech projects, with an equal mix of races?
>>
>> Don't go assburger on me.  You know how informal language works.
> 
> Well, proof that the objective is to have "50% females in tech
> projects, with an equal mix of races" would be quick and easy proof of
> a completely ridiculous and unreasonable agenda.
> 

I'm heartened to see you agree that their agenda is ridiculous and
unreasonable.


> I would think that the scare-mongers would have such evidence at the
> ready, when asked.  If it was true, anyway.
> 

If their goal is fair representation, then why would 50% female *not* be
the target?  After all, that's roughly the general population female
distribution.  So it seems the guy made a perfectly reasonable claim.

Before you make the correct observation that fewer women than men are
interested in tech, remember the Google guy who got fired for sharing
just such a bigoted observation.  I believe he is also mentioned at 
the quoted link.

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#469322

owl wrote:

>I'm heartened to see you agree that their agenda is ridiculous and
>unreasonable.

I did no such thing, obviously.

>If their goal is fair representation, then why would 50% female *not* be
>the target?

Because that wouldn't be fair.

So, the claim that "They believe that there needs to be 50% females in
tech projects, with an equal mix of races" is not true.  Thanks for
confirming.

-- 
"Thus, we once again see what is so wrong with Linux:  the Community's
intolerant bigots and bullies who think that YELLING LOUDER is the way
to attract customers."  -  lying asshole "-hh"

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