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  Linux 6.15-rc2 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 00:19 +0000
    Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-15 17:53 -0700
      Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 04:32 +0000
        Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 09:36 -0700
          Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 22:02 +0000
            Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 15:18 -0700
              Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 22:27 +0000
                Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 15:28 -0700
                  Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-16 22:38 +0000
                    Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 17:05 -0700
                      Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 08:39 -0400
                        Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 14:09 +0000
                          Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-04-17 14:29 +0000
                            Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 08:14 -0700
                          Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-04-17 12:18 -0400
                            Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2025-04-17 22:58 +0000
                        Re: Linux 6.15-rc2 RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2025-04-17 23:26 +0000

#689004 — Linux 6.15-rc2

Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release candidate:

$ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out 
==> uname.out <==
Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT 2025 
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

==> nohup.out <==
real 410.63
user 18957.43
sys 4074.31

Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "Mary had a little lamb. The doctor was surprised."

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#689006

vallor wrote:
> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release candidate:
> 
> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out
> ==> uname.out <==
> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT 2025
> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
> 
> ==> nohup.out <==
> real 410.63
> user 18957.43
> sys 4074.31
> 
> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
> 
how do you keep your head on your neck

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#689016

On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release candidate:
>> 
>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT 2025
>> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>> 
>> ==> nohup.out <==
>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>> 
>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>> 
> how do you keep your head on your neck

That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab
to get your bolts tightened?

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "Falls don't kill people. It's the deceleration trauma."

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#689035

vallor wrote:
> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release candidate:
>>>
>>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT 2025
>>> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>
>>> ==> nohup.out <==
>>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>>>
>>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>>>
>> how do you keep your head on your neck
> 
> That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab
> to get your bolts tightened?
> 
i'm afraid you failed to answer the question , that's one failure

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#689043

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:36:26 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<qsadnTZ3Z4IUQWL6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release candidate:
>>>>
>>>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>>>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT 2025
>>>> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>
>>>> ==> nohup.out <==
>>>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>>>>
>>>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>>>>
>>> how do you keep your head on your neck
>> 
>> That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab
>> to get your bolts tightened?
>> 
> i'm afraid you failed to answer the question , that's one failure

And you failed to answer the countersign, so you are probably a spy.

But this has nothing to do with Linux.  Did you have a comment about
Linux?  (This is a newsgroup about Linux.)

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "Linux, the choice of a GNU generation."

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#689045

vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:36:26 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <qsadnTZ3Z4IUQWL6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release candidate:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>>>>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT 2025
>>>>> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>>
>>>>> ==> nohup.out <==
>>>>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>>>>>
>>>>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>>>>>
>>>> how do you keep your head on your neck
>>>
>>> That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab
>>> to get your bolts tightened?
>>>
>> i'm afraid you failed to answer the question , that's one failure
> 
> And you failed to answer the countersign, so you are probably a spy.
> 
> But this has nothing to do with Linux.  Did you have a comment about
> Linux?  (This is a newsgroup about Linux.)
> 
2 errors

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#689048

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:18:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<IPicnceGj9IwsZ31nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:36:26 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <qsadnTZ3Z4IUQWL6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> <CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release
>>>>>> candidate:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>>>>>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT
>>>>>> 2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ==> nohup.out <==
>>>>>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>>>>>>
>>>>> how do you keep your head on your neck
>>>>
>>>> That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab to get your
>>>> bolts tightened?
>>>>
>>> i'm afraid you failed to answer the question , that's one failure
>> 
>> And you failed to answer the countersign, so you are probably a spy.
>> 
>> But this has nothing to do with Linux.  Did you have a comment about
>> Linux?  (This is a newsgroup about Linux.)
>> 
> 2 errors

Linux 6.15-rc2 compiled with no errors, but some warnings:

$ grep -i warning nohup.out | wc -l
9

(You have been warned.)

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "If you hear an onion ring please answer it."

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#689049

vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:18:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <IPicnceGj9IwsZ31nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:36:26 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <qsadnTZ3Z4IUQWL6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> <CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release
>>>>>>> candidate:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>>>>>>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT
>>>>>>> 2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ==> nohup.out <==
>>>>>>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> how do you keep your head on your neck
>>>>>
>>>>> That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab to get your
>>>>> bolts tightened?
>>>>>
>>>> i'm afraid you failed to answer the question , that's one failure
>>>
>>> And you failed to answer the countersign, so you are probably a spy.
>>>
>>> But this has nothing to do with Linux.  Did you have a comment about
>>> Linux?  (This is a newsgroup about Linux.)
>>>
>> 2 errors
> 
> Linux 6.15-rc2 compiled with no errors, but some warnings:
> 
> $ grep -i warning nohup.out | wc -l
> 9
> 
> (You have been warned.)
> 
3

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#689050

On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:28:43 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
<Ou2cndEApK-Dsp31nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:

> vallor wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:18:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <IPicnceGj9IwsZ31nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>> 
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:36:26 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> <qsadnTZ3Z4IUQWL6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>> in <CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release
>>>>>>>> candidate:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>>>>>>>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT
>>>>>>>> 2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ==> nohup.out <==
>>>>>>>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> how do you keep your head on your neck
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab to get
>>>>>> your bolts tightened?
>>>>>>
>>>>> i'm afraid you failed to answer the question , that's one failure
>>>>
>>>> And you failed to answer the countersign, so you are probably a spy.
>>>>
>>>> But this has nothing to do with Linux.  Did you have a comment about
>>>> Linux?  (This is a newsgroup about Linux.)
>>>>
>>> 2 errors
>> 
>> Linux 6.15-rc2 compiled with no errors, but some warnings:
>> 
>> $ grep -i warning nohup.out | wc -l 9
>> 
>> (You have been warned.)
>> 
> 3

Okaaaay...so have you ever tried Linux?  A great distro is Linux Mint:

   https://linuxmint.com/download.php

You can download it, write it to a USB stick, and boot the stick to try
it out.  If you like it, you can install it on your internal storage.

It even has a tool to shrink your Windows partition to make room
for Linux.

OR -- since Linux is now part of Windows, you can just use the so-called
"Windows Subsystem for Linux", and run Linux on Windows!

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install

Good luck, and happy Linuxing.

-- 
-v System76 Thelio Mega v1.1 x86_64 NVIDIA RTX 3090 Ti
   OS: Linux 6.14.2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
   "I'm no stranger, just a friend you haven't met..."

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#689054

vallor wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:28:43 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
> <Ou2cndEApK-Dsp31nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
> 
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:18:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <IPicnceGj9IwsZ31nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:36:26 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> <qsadnTZ3Z4IUQWL6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>> in <CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release
>>>>>>>>> candidate:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>>>>>>>>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT
>>>>>>>>> 2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ==> nohup.out <==
>>>>>>>>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> how do you keep your head on your neck
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab to get
>>>>>>> your bolts tightened?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> i'm afraid you failed to answer the question , that's one failure
>>>>>
>>>>> And you failed to answer the countersign, so you are probably a spy.
>>>>>
>>>>> But this has nothing to do with Linux.  Did you have a comment about
>>>>> Linux?  (This is a newsgroup about Linux.)
>>>>>
>>>> 2 errors
>>>
>>> Linux 6.15-rc2 compiled with no errors, but some warnings:
>>>
>>> $ grep -i warning nohup.out | wc -l 9
>>>
>>> (You have been warned.)
>>>
>> 3
> 
> Okaaaay...so have you ever tried Linux?  A great distro is Linux Mint:
> 
>     https://linuxmint.com/download.php
> 
> You can download it, write it to a USB stick, and boot the stick to try
> it out.  If you like it, you can install it on your internal storage.
> 
> It even has a tool to shrink your Windows partition to make room
> for Linux.
> 
> OR -- since Linux is now part of Windows, you can just use the so-called
> "Windows Subsystem for Linux", and run Linux on Windows!
> 
> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install
> 
> Good luck, and happy Linuxing.
> 
if that's what i wanted i would've bought a computer with that on it

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#689075

On 2025-04-16 20:05, % wrote:
> vallor wrote:
>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:28:43 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>> <Ou2cndEApK-Dsp31nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>
>>> vallor wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:18:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> <IPicnceGj9IwsZ31nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>
>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:36:26 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> <qsadnTZ3Z4IUQWL6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>> in <CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release
>>>>>>>>>> candidate:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>>>>>>>>>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT
>>>>>>>>>> 2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ==> nohup.out <==
>>>>>>>>>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> how do you keep your head on your neck
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab to get
>>>>>>>> your bolts tightened?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i'm afraid you failed to answer the question , that's one failure
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And you failed to answer the countersign, so you are probably a spy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But this has nothing to do with Linux.  Did you have a comment about
>>>>>> Linux?  (This is a newsgroup about Linux.)
>>>>>>
>>>>> 2 errors
>>>>
>>>> Linux 6.15-rc2 compiled with no errors, but some warnings:
>>>>
>>>> $ grep -i warning nohup.out | wc -l 9
>>>>
>>>> (You have been warned.)
>>>>
>>> 3
>>
>> Okaaaay...so have you ever tried Linux?  A great distro is Linux Mint:
>>
>>     https://linuxmint.com/download.php
>>
>> You can download it, write it to a USB stick, and boot the stick to try
>> it out.  If you like it, you can install it on your internal storage.
>>
>> It even has a tool to shrink your Windows partition to make room
>> for Linux.
>>
>> OR -- since Linux is now part of Windows, you can just use the so-called
>> "Windows Subsystem for Linux", and run Linux on Windows!
>>
>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install
>>
>> Good luck, and happy Linuxing.
>>
> if that's what i wanted i would've bought a computer with that on it

Other than ThinkPenguin, Tuxedo and System76 through an online purchase, 
where will you find a machine that comes with Linux on it?

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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#689087

On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 08:39:32 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> Other than ThinkPenguin, Tuxedo and System76 through an online purchase,
> where will you find a machine that comes with Linux on it?

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=ubuntu-
linux-os

It's online too. I doubt you'll see a Linux computer at Best Buy, if 
that's what you mean, but I seldom go there and am not looking for a 
computer when I do.

Panasonic certified their Toughbooks with RedHat and you probably can find 
a SKU with Linux. Good luck with that. Navigating their site is something 
else. I found that out when a site asked if they could use Toughbooks. 
'Which freaking Toughbook?  Panasonic calls almost everything a 
Toughbook.'

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#689092

On 17 Apr 2025 14:09:14 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
<m6cgc9Fa1coU1@mid.individual.net>:

> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 08:39:32 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Other than ThinkPenguin, Tuxedo and System76 through an online
>> purchase,
>> where will you find a machine that comes with Linux on it?
> 
> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=ubuntu-
> linux-os
> 
> It's online too. I doubt you'll see a Linux computer at Best Buy, if
> that's what you mean, but I seldom go there and am not looking for a
> computer when I do.
> 
> Panasonic certified their Toughbooks with RedHat and you probably can
> find a SKU with Linux. Good luck with that. Navigating their site is
> something else. I found that out when a site asked if they could use
> Toughbooks. 'Which freaking Toughbook?  Panasonic calls almost
> everything a Toughbook.'

Dell also has select desktops and workstations with Linux installed.

https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/scr/desktops/appref=ubuntu-linux-os

-- 
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   OS: Linux 6.14.2 Release: Mint 22.1 Mem: 258G
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#689095

vallor wrote:
> On 17 Apr 2025 14:09:14 GMT, rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote in
> <m6cgc9Fa1coU1@mid.individual.net>:
> 
>> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 08:39:32 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
>>
>>> Other than ThinkPenguin, Tuxedo and System76 through an online
>>> purchase,
>>> where will you find a machine that comes with Linux on it?
>>
>> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=ubuntu-
>> linux-os
>>
>> It's online too. I doubt you'll see a Linux computer at Best Buy, if
>> that's what you mean, but I seldom go there and am not looking for a
>> computer when I do.
>>
>> Panasonic certified their Toughbooks with RedHat and you probably can
>> find a SKU with Linux. Good luck with that. Navigating their site is
>> something else. I found that out when a site asked if they could use
>> Toughbooks. 'Which freaking Toughbook?  Panasonic calls almost
>> everything a Toughbook.'
> 
> Dell also has select desktops and workstations with Linux installed.
> 
> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/desktop-computers/scr/desktops/appref=ubuntu-linux-os
> 
told ya

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#689097

On 2025-04-17 10:09, rbowman wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 08:39:32 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:
> 
>> Other than ThinkPenguin, Tuxedo and System76 through an online purchase,
>> where will you find a machine that comes with Linux on it?
> 
> https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/scr/laptops/appref=ubuntu-
> linux-os
> 
> It's online too. I doubt you'll see a Linux computer at Best Buy, if
> that's what you mean, but I seldom go there and am not looking for a
> computer when I do.
> 
> Panasonic certified their Toughbooks with RedHat and you probably can find
> a SKU with Linux. Good luck with that. Navigating their site is something
> else. I found that out when a site asked if they could use Toughbooks.
> 'Which freaking Toughbook?  Panasonic calls almost everything a
> Toughbook.'

For their decision to give customers a choice to install Linux on the 
laptop at purchase, I'll have to consider Dell the next time around. 
Nevertheless, with Linux, I will be able to go quite a while on my other 
machine without having to buy another. I'm sure that it will eventually 
not be good enough to play the latest 3D games, but I'm a humongous fan 
of 2D platformers anyway.

-- 
God be with you,

CrudeSausage
LibreOffice supporter
John 14:6

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On Thu, 17 Apr 2025 12:18:47 -0400, CrudeSausage wrote:

> For their decision to give customers a choice to install Linux on the
> laptop at purchase, I'll have to consider Dell the next time around.
> Nevertheless, with Linux, I will be able to go quite a while on my other
> machine without having to buy another. I'm sure that it will eventually
> not be good enough to play the latest 3D games, but I'm a humongous fan
> of 2D platformers anyway.

My Fedora box is an older Dell. I upgraded the processor and added a SSD 
when I switched from SUSE to Fedora but there was nothing wrong with the 
original components.

My work laptop and desktops are all Dell and have also been trouble free. 
It took the company a while to realize that building desktops in the back 
room really wasn't cost effective after replacing enough Brand X power 
supplies, hard drives, and mother boards.

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#689123

On 2025-04-17, CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> wrote:
> On 2025-04-16 20:05, % wrote:
>> vallor wrote:
>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:28:43 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>> <Ou2cndEApK-Dsp31nZ2dnZfqnPSdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>
>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 15:18:21 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>> <IPicnceGj9IwsZ31nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@giganews.com>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 09:36:26 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>>> <qsadnTZ3Z4IUQWL6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Apr 2025 17:53:47 -0700, % <pursent100@gmail.com> wrote
>>>>>>>>> in <CbGcnWvxt_ABYmP6nZ2dnZfqn_gAAAAA@giganews.com>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> vallor wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's that time again -- time for another Linux release
>>>>>>>>>>> candidate:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> $ tail -n 3 uname.out nohup.out ==> uname.out <==
>>>>>>>>>>> Linux mintvirt 6.15.0-rc2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Tue Apr 15 16:43:44 PDT
>>>>>>>>>>> 2025 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ==> nohup.out <==
>>>>>>>>>>> real 410.63 user 18957.43 sys 4074.31
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Built on the workstation, booted in a virtual machine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> how do you keep your head on your neck
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> That reminds me...aren't you due back at the science lab to get
>>>>>>>>> your bolts tightened?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i'm afraid you failed to answer the question , that's one failure
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And you failed to answer the countersign, so you are probably a spy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But this has nothing to do with Linux.  Did you have a comment about
>>>>>>> Linux?  (This is a newsgroup about Linux.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2 errors
>>>>>
>>>>> Linux 6.15-rc2 compiled with no errors, but some warnings:
>>>>>
>>>>> $ grep -i warning nohup.out | wc -l 9
>>>>>
>>>>> (You have been warned.)
>>>>>
>>>> 3
>>>
>>> Okaaaay...so have you ever tried Linux?  A great distro is Linux Mint:
>>>
>>>     https://linuxmint.com/download.php
>>>
>>> You can download it, write it to a USB stick, and boot the stick to try
>>> it out.  If you like it, you can install it on your internal storage.
>>>
>>> It even has a tool to shrink your Windows partition to make room
>>> for Linux.
>>>
>>> OR -- since Linux is now part of Windows, you can just use the so-called
>>> "Windows Subsystem for Linux", and run Linux on Windows!
>>>
>>> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/linux/install
>>>
>>> Good luck, and happy Linuxing.
>>>
>> if that's what i wanted i would've bought a computer with that on it
>
> Other than ThinkPenguin, Tuxedo and System76 through an online purchase, 
> where will you find a machine that comes with Linux on it?

I think you can still find some (a small subset) of Dell laptops that come 
pre-loaded with Linux. (And maybe a couple HPs.) Not much choice out there 
for those who don't want to install Linux on their own.

-- 
“Evil is not able to create anything new, it can only distort and destroy 
what has been invented or made by the forces of good.”  —J.R.R. Tolkien

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