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| Started by | Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| First post | 2014-05-06 18:11 -0400 |
| Last post | 2014-05-07 10:16 -0700 |
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Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 18:11 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 17:06 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 20:39 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 17:44 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 21:27 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-07 04:21 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-06 21:00 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 08:55 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-07 15:37 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 12:42 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-07 14:22 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 13:07 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 18:16 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-08 00:21 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 15:28 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-08 00:38 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 16:07 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 16:58 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 20:26 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:55 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 20:23 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:56 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 10:42 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:51 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 17:06 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 08:20 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 10:39 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 09:57 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 17:18 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 09:20 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-08 18:53 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:32 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 09:17 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 15:28 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 09:32 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 08:54 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 08:03 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:56 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 09:59 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 11:14 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 12:07 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 12:15 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 12:48 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 19:28 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-08 21:04 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:33 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 13:38 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:41 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-09 10:42 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 17:25 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 12:47 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 17:54 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 12:56 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 18:00 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 13:20 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:24 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 11:23 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:18 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-12 14:00 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 11:29 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 17:54 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 13:14 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:19 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 00:29 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 16:39 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 09:46 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 09:09 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 23:10 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 15:25 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-10 16:11 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 20:06 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 13:53 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 21:24 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 13:12 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:20 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 00:43 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 16:48 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 16:56 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 09:49 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 09:07 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 13:54 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 08:51 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:17 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 12:55 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:06 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-12 14:02 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 20:20 +0200
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 11:30 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:34 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 10:44 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 18:03 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 17:08 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 19:38 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 11:37 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:50 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 11:53 -0500
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 15:27 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 09:35 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 13:00 -0400
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 10:19 -0700
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 11:37 -0600
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2014-05-07 17:25 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-07 15:16 +0100
Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 10:16 -0700
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| From | Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| Date | 2014-05-07 20:23 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lkeipq$kp0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #242448 |
On 14-05-07 06:21 PM, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Silver Slimer wrote: > >> On 14-05-07 03:22 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote: >>> On 2014-05-07, White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote: >>>> On 07/05/2014 13:55, Silver Slimer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Regular DVDs are easy to get working. It's just a matter of getting >>>>> libdvdcss installed. However, the encryption in Blu-Rays, as far as I >>>>> know, is somewhat more complex and therefore hasn't been broken the way >>>>> DVD's was. I feel kind of stupid for even buying BR discs since they >>> >>> Yup. >>> >>> The BD players available for the Mac look almost like something >>> that the "hobbyist" community would put together. They look so dodgey, >>> you wonder if they are going to be wiped out at any minute by a single >>> DMCA request. >>> >>> [deletia] >> >> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >> with. > > No. > The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies > > BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs I love how people enjoy paying double or more for hardware which allows them to do half as much as a typical PC (assuming they never install anything other than OS X anyway). -- Silver Slimer Wikipedia & OpenMedia Supporter
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-07 17:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CF902450.36BBD%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #242493 |
On 5/7/14, 5:23 PM, in article lkeipq$kp0$1@dont-email.me, "Silver Slimer" <slvrslmr@lv.c> wrote: >>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >>> with. >> >> No. >> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >> >> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs > > I love how people enjoy paying double or more for hardware which allows > them to do half as much as a typical PC (assuming they never install > anything other than OS X anyway). I use my iMac because it allows me to do more for less money. What people are you thinking of where this is different? -- * Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint / LibreOffice: <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto> * Win 8 / Word 2013: <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
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| From | White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 10:42 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bt11riFsrtiU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242448 |
On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Silver Slimer wrote: >> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >> with. > No. > The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies > BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 07:51 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CF90E7EB.36C62%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #242529 |
On 5/8/14, 2:42 AM, in article bt11riFsrtiU2@mid.individual.net, "White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote: > On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> Silver Slimer wrote: > >>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >>> with. > >> No. >> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies > >> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs > > I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives > altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think > that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are > using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. You are confusing two issues: I barely use my DVD drive but that does not push me to use iTunes. Why would it? -- * Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint / LibreOffice: <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto> * Win 8 / Word 2013: <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
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| From | Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 17:06 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <87siok5mzh.fsf@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #242559 |
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes: > On 5/8/14, 2:42 AM, in article bt11riFsrtiU2@mid.individual.net, "White > Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote: > >> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> >>> Silver Slimer wrote: >> >>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >>>> with. >> >>> No. >>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >> >>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >> >> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. > > You are confusing two issues: I barely use my DVD drive but that does not > push me to use iTunes. Why would it? You're talking to White Spurt. Only slightly less dumb than turd. He's obsessed with DVD players for some reason : something you can pick up for a few dollars if you need it as a portable usb device. My current favorite laptop is a thinkpad without DVD built in. Why would I need that extra volume, weight and "thing to go wrong" when I've probably installed next to nothing form DVD in the last years - but then I do use Debian and pretty much everything I download using the package manager or compile from source for, e.g, the wireless chip. You must remember that White Spurt and wRonG are highly skilled analysts who know better than Apple what people want. -- "I have a BSEE.... Negative feedback has many benefits, but "maintaining stability" is not one of them. Just the opposite, in fact." The turdv/chrisv idiot and his pretend BSEE degree. PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 08:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CF90EECF.36C7A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #242566 |
On 5/8/14, 8:06 AM, in article 87siok5mzh.fsf@gmail.com, "Hadron" <hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes: > >> On 5/8/14, 2:42 AM, in article bt11riFsrtiU2@mid.individual.net, "White >> Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote: >> >>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> >>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>> >>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >>>>> with. >>> >>>> No. >>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >>> >>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >>> >>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. >> >> You are confusing two issues: I barely use my DVD drive but that does not >> push me to use iTunes. Why would it? > > You're talking to White Spurt. Only slightly less dumb than turd. > > He's obsessed with DVD players for some reason : something you can pick > up for a few dollars if you need it as a portable usb device. My current > favorite laptop is a thinkpad without DVD built in. Why would I need > that extra volume, weight and "thing to go wrong" when I've probably > installed next to nothing form DVD in the last years - but then I do use > Debian and pretty much everything I download using the package manager > or compile from source for, e.g, the wireless chip. Even on desktops they are not used by most people. I do have someone in my extended family who makes home videos and then sends them to people on DVDs... and I make DVDs for classes and the like. But we are edge cases. And frankly with an all-in-one I have never liked the placement of the DVD... I have a second monitor and I have to move it to get to the drive. When I upgrade my computer I will have the DVD drive on the desk. It will generally be pushed to the back or plopped in a drawer and not even plugged in. Would it bother me if they kept it? No. Does it bother me that they removed it... well, to be honest, when I first heard that I was a bit bothered - but when I considered it and thought of the reasoning and logic and lack of most people using them it makes sense. > You must remember that White Spurt and wRonG are highly skilled analysts > who know better than Apple what people want. Of course! -- * Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint / LibreOffice: <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto> * Win 8 / Word 2013: <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
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| From | Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 10:39 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <1eaa6c18-78ba-46d1-af77-c4f7f3284564@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #242566 |
On Thursday, May 8, 2014 9:06:10 AM UTC-6, Hadron wrote: > Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes: > > > > > On 5/8/14, 2:42 AM, in article bt11riFsrtiU2@mid.individual.net, "White > > > Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote: > > > > > >> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > > >> > > >>> Silver Slimer wrote: > > >> > > >>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin > > >>>> with. > > >> > > >>> No. > > >>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies > > >> > > >>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs > > >> > > >> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives > > >> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think > > >> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are > > >> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. > > > > > > You are confusing two issues: I barely use my DVD drive but that does not > > > push me to use iTunes. Why would it? > > > > You're talking to White Spurt. Only slightly less dumb than turd. LOL! Are you two really *this* stupid?!! C'mon, this has to be an act ;) You seriously don't believe there were conversations at Apple where the topic of doing things to lock people into buying digital files from iTunes or the App store was the focal point and removing the drive was a key factor in encouraging things to move in that direction? Or are you both *so* brain dead you simply missed his obvious point? Apple is ahead of the curve on removing tech, due to smaller market share they have much more flexibility in this regard. That said, don't believe for a second that the push to the walled garden wasn't a huge aspect of removing the drive this time out. I'm a Mac user and I'm not that f*cking blind. > He's obsessed with DVD players for some reason : something you can pick > > up for a few dollars if you need it as a portable usb device. My current > > favorite laptop is a thinkpad without DVD built in. Why would I need > > that extra volume, weight and "thing to go wrong" when I've probably > > installed next to nothing form DVD in the last years - but then I do use > > Debian and pretty much everything I download using the package manager > > or compile from source for, e.g, the wireless chip. > > > > You must remember that White Spurt and wRonG are highly skilled analysts > > who know better than Apple what people want. You two are *total* idiots and this thread proves it.
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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 09:57 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <keCdnSMu8eIWNPbOnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #242529 |
On 5/8/2014 3:42 AM, White Spirit wrote: > On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> Silver Slimer wrote: > >>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >>> with. > >> No. >> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies > >> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs > > I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives > altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think > that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are > using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. > I've noticed that as well. By dropping the drive out, it cuts their manufacturing costs and yet the price is still high. -- We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true -- Robert Wilensky, 1997
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| From | White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 17:18 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <bt1p2nF369nU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242574 |
On 08/05/2014 16:57, GreyCloud wrote: > On 5/8/2014 3:42 AM, White Spirit wrote: >> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >>>> with. >>> No. >>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. > I've noticed that as well. By dropping the drive out, it cuts their > manufacturing costs and yet the price is still high. Yes - it's like those companies who make a product such as washing powder and then reduce the volume in a container but keep the price the same hoping that people won't notice.
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 09:20 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CF90FCF2.36C97%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #242586 |
On 5/8/14, 9:18 AM, in article bt1p2nF369nU2@mid.individual.net, "White Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote: > On 08/05/2014 16:57, GreyCloud wrote: > >> On 5/8/2014 3:42 AM, White Spirit wrote: > >>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >>>> Silver Slimer wrote: > >>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >>>>> with. > >>>> No. >>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies > >>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs > >>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. > >> I've noticed that as well. By dropping the drive out, it cuts their >> manufacturing costs and yet the price is still high. > > Yes - it's like those companies who make a product such as washing > powder and then reduce the volume in a container but keep the price the > same hoping that people won't notice. > Can you show me some price comparisons from non-COLA created sources which show Macs costing more than comparable machines. You *can* find such... but before you do you will likely find 10 counter examples. -- * Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint / LibreOffice: <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto> * Win 8 / Word 2013: <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 18:53 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lkh1ti$imh$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #242586 |
On 05/08/2014 12:18 PM, White Spirit wrote: > On 08/05/2014 16:57, GreyCloud wrote: > >> On 5/8/2014 3:42 AM, White Spirit wrote: > >>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >>>> Silver Slimer wrote: > >>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to >>>>> begin >>>>> with. > >>>> No. >>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies > >>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs > >>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. > >> I've noticed that as well. By dropping the drive out, it cuts their >> manufacturing costs and yet the price is still high. > > Yes - it's like those companies who make a product such as washing > powder and then reduce the volume in a container but keep the price the > same hoping that people won't notice. I opened a Chobani yogurt the other day, and it was about 3/4 full. I sent an email asking why the deception and they babbled about "No price increases in xx years... 5.3oz is an industry standard blah blah blah" There's lots of deceptions like that in food packaging, from unrealistic photos to partially filled containers to ingredient lists. Another: there are some great sardines made by Wild Planet (best I've ever had, $1.67 at Costco). To minimize the high cholesterol and fat and sodium numbers, they claim each 2.8oz (drained) container is 1.5 servings. That means Walrus 7 will need to eat 20 containers to get to his required 30 servings at each meal. http://bayimg.com/GalbdaAfk
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| From | flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 07:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1n05iwilbtltt$.6neq2qyrh1zc.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #242674 |
On Thu, 08 May 2014 18:53:38 -0400, DFS wrote: > On 05/08/2014 12:18 PM, White Spirit wrote: >> On 08/05/2014 16:57, GreyCloud wrote: >> >>> On 5/8/2014 3:42 AM, White Spirit wrote: >> >>>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> >>>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >> >>>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to >>>>>> begin >>>>>> with. >> >>>>> No. >>>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >> >>>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >> >>>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >>>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >>>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >>>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. >> >>> I've noticed that as well. By dropping the drive out, it cuts their >>> manufacturing costs and yet the price is still high. >> >> Yes - it's like those companies who make a product such as washing >> powder and then reduce the volume in a container but keep the price the >> same hoping that people won't notice. > > > I opened a Chobani yogurt the other day, and it was about 3/4 full. I > sent an email asking why the deception and they babbled about "No price > increases in xx years... 5.3oz is an industry standard blah blah blah" Somewhere on the container it probably says "packed by weight". That's why cereal often only fills 3/4 of the box. It is deceptive though. > There's lots of deceptions like that in food packaging, from unrealistic > photos to partially filled containers to ingredient lists. > > Another: there are some great sardines made by Wild Planet (best I've > ever had, $1.67 at Costco). To minimize the high cholesterol and fat > and sodium numbers, they claim each 2.8oz (drained) container is 1.5 > servings. I love sardines! Great for the heart, cholesterol, omega 3 fats etc. > That means Walrus 7 will need to eat 20 containers to get to his > required 30 servings at each meal. > > http://bayimg.com/GalbdaAfk lol! I usually have maybe 3 cans a week.
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 09:17 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lkikhb$dqi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #242716 |
On 5/9/2014 7:32 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: > On Thu, 08 May 2014 18:53:38 -0400, DFS wrote: > >> On 05/08/2014 12:18 PM, White Spirit wrote: >>> On 08/05/2014 16:57, GreyCloud wrote: >>> >>>> On 5/8/2014 3:42 AM, White Spirit wrote: >>> >>>>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> >>>>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>> >>>>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to >>>>>>> begin >>>>>>> with. >>> >>>>>> No. >>>>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >>> >>>>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >>> >>>>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >>>>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >>>>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >>>>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. >>> >>>> I've noticed that as well. By dropping the drive out, it cuts their >>>> manufacturing costs and yet the price is still high. >>> >>> Yes - it's like those companies who make a product such as washing >>> powder and then reduce the volume in a container but keep the price the >>> same hoping that people won't notice. >> >> >> I opened a Chobani yogurt the other day, and it was about 3/4 full. I >> sent an email asking why the deception and they babbled about "No price >> increases in xx years... 5.3oz is an industry standard blah blah blah" > > Somewhere on the container it probably says "packed by weight". > That's why cereal often only fills 3/4 of the box. I never bought a Chobani yogurt until the other day. It looks like they just kept the old container and started filling it less. > It is deceptive though. Consumer Reports current issue has 8 pics of food package photos that barely resemble what's in the box. Fast food joints do the same. >> There's lots of deceptions like that in food packaging, from unrealistic >> photos to partially filled containers to ingredient lists. >> >> Another: there are some great sardines made by Wild Planet (best I've >> ever had, $1.67 at Costco). To minimize the high cholesterol and fat >> and sodium numbers, they claim each 2.8oz (drained) container is 1.5 >> servings. > > I love sardines! > Great for the heart, cholesterol, omega 3 fats etc. Yes. And these Wild Planet ones taste as good as they get (they're packed in olive oil, no mustard or chiles or sauce). Check 'em out if you have a Costco nearby. They're 6 cans for $9.99 here. >> That means Walrus 7 will need to eat 20 containers to get to his >> required 30 servings at each meal. >> >> http://bayimg.com/GalbdaAfk > > lol! > I usually have maybe 3 cans a week. That's a lot. I have around 2 cans a week. I've gotten burned out on sardines - been eating them since I was a teen. A good breakfast is a can of sardines and some steamed spinach or brussel sprouts. I'd rather eat a Cinnabon, of course, but /never do/ because I plan on bashing cola idiots for a long time.
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| From | Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 15:28 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <8761lf3wug.fsf@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #242747 |
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> writes: > On 5/9/2014 7:32 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: >> On Thu, 08 May 2014 18:53:38 -0400, DFS wrote: >> >>> On 05/08/2014 12:18 PM, White Spirit wrote: >>>> On 08/05/2014 16:57, GreyCloud wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5/8/2014 3:42 AM, White Spirit wrote: >>>> >>>>>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to >>>>>>>> begin >>>>>>>> with. >>>> >>>>>>> No. >>>>>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >>>> >>>>>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >>>> >>>>>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >>>>>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >>>>>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >>>>>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. >>>> >>>>> I've noticed that as well. By dropping the drive out, it cuts their >>>>> manufacturing costs and yet the price is still high. >>>> >>>> Yes - it's like those companies who make a product such as washing >>>> powder and then reduce the volume in a container but keep the price the >>>> same hoping that people won't notice. >>> >>> >>> I opened a Chobani yogurt the other day, and it was about 3/4 full. I >>> sent an email asking why the deception and they babbled about "No price >>> increases in xx years... 5.3oz is an industry standard blah blah blah" >> >> Somewhere on the container it probably says "packed by weight". >> That's why cereal often only fills 3/4 of the box. > > I never bought a Chobani yogurt until the other day. It looks like they just > kept the old container and started filling it less. > >> It is deceptive though. > > Consumer Reports current issue has 8 pics of food package photos that barely > resemble what's in the box. > > Fast food joints do the same. > >>> There's lots of deceptions like that in food packaging, from unrealistic >>> photos to partially filled containers to ingredient lists. >>> >>> Another: there are some great sardines made by Wild Planet (best I've >>> ever had, $1.67 at Costco). To minimize the high cholesterol and fat >>> and sodium numbers, they claim each 2.8oz (drained) container is 1.5 >>> servings. >> >> I love sardines! >> Great for the heart, cholesterol, omega 3 fats etc. > > Yes. And these Wild Planet ones taste as good as they get (they're packed in > olive oil, no mustard or chiles or sauce). > > Check 'em out if you have a Costco nearby. They're 6 cans for $9.99 here. > >>> That means Walrus 7 will need to eat 20 containers to get to his >>> required 30 servings at each meal. >>> >>> http://bayimg.com/GalbdaAfk >> >> lol! >> I usually have maybe 3 cans a week. > > That's a lot. I have around 2 cans a week. I've gotten burned out on sardines > - been eating them since I was a teen. > > A good breakfast is a can of sardines and some steamed spinach or brussel > sprouts. I'd rather eat a Cinnabon, of course, but /never do/ because I plan on > bashing cola idiots for a long time. And ironically Walrus and co probably eat Pizza and Jolt Cola for breakfast and wonder why they're so incapable of movement or getting the door when their Mom's bring them down a mid morning cheeseburger to the basement. -- "I have a BSEE.... Negative feedback has many benefits, but "maintaining stability" is not one of them. Just the opposite, in fact." The turdv/chrisv idiot and his pretend BSEE degree. PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/
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| From | flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-09 09:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <ymdsgp1vdv5o$.14h83txbbein0.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #242747 |
On Fri, 09 May 2014 09:17:22 -0400, DFS wrote: > On 5/9/2014 7:32 AM, flatfish+++ wrote: >> On Thu, 08 May 2014 18:53:38 -0400, DFS wrote: >> >>> On 05/08/2014 12:18 PM, White Spirit wrote: >>>> On 08/05/2014 16:57, GreyCloud wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 5/8/2014 3:42 AM, White Spirit wrote: >>>> >>>>>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> >>>>>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>>> >>>>>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to >>>>>>>> begin >>>>>>>> with. >>>> >>>>>>> No. >>>>>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >>>> >>>>>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >>>> >>>>>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >>>>>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >>>>>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >>>>>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. >>>> >>>>> I've noticed that as well. By dropping the drive out, it cuts their >>>>> manufacturing costs and yet the price is still high. >>>> >>>> Yes - it's like those companies who make a product such as washing >>>> powder and then reduce the volume in a container but keep the price the >>>> same hoping that people won't notice. >>> >>> >>> I opened a Chobani yogurt the other day, and it was about 3/4 full. I >>> sent an email asking why the deception and they babbled about "No price >>> increases in xx years... 5.3oz is an industry standard blah blah blah" >> >> Somewhere on the container it probably says "packed by weight". >> That's why cereal often only fills 3/4 of the box. > > I never bought a Chobani yogurt until the other day. It looks like they > just kept the old container and started filling it less. Figures. >> It is deceptive though. > > Consumer Reports current issue has 8 pics of food package photos that > barely resemble what's in the box. They don't when you see them on TV either. > Fast food joints do the same. Haven't been to one of those in years. Mostly poison. >>> There's lots of deceptions like that in food packaging, from unrealistic >>> photos to partially filled containers to ingredient lists. >>> >>> Another: there are some great sardines made by Wild Planet (best I've >>> ever had, $1.67 at Costco). To minimize the high cholesterol and fat >>> and sodium numbers, they claim each 2.8oz (drained) container is 1.5 >>> servings. >> >> I love sardines! >> Great for the heart, cholesterol, omega 3 fats etc. > > Yes. And these Wild Planet ones taste as good as they get (they're > packed in olive oil, no mustard or chiles or sauce). > > Check 'em out if you have a Costco nearby. They're 6 cans for $9.99 here. That's a good price. I get the ones in olive oil. >>> That means Walrus 7 will need to eat 20 containers to get to his >>> required 30 servings at each meal. >>> >>> http://bayimg.com/GalbdaAfk >> >> lol! >> I usually have maybe 3 cans a week. > > > That's a lot. I have around 2 cans a week. I've gotten burned out on > sardines - been eating them since I was a teen. Me too. Sometimes I stop for a while, but always go back. > A good breakfast is a can of sardines and some steamed spinach or > brussel sprouts. I'd rather eat a Cinnabon, of course, but /never do/ > because I plan on bashing cola idiots for a long time. Haha!
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| From | Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 08:54 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <lkfuq2$9tk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #242448 |
On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > Silver Slimer wrote: >> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >> with. > No. > The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies > BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. People DO prefer online media, but I don't believing that any one of those people will find the omission of an optical drive to be liberating. The way Apple removed not only the optical drives but also certain ports people came to rely on is ridiculous. Sure, most people won't need a VGA port but maybe on one occasions they'll be forced to connect to something which only works through VGA and they'd appreciate having it there... and they don't have the time to go out and buy the adapter. Maybe they DO buy all of their media from iTunes, but maybe they found a good deal for a CD or DVD they've been looking for all of their lives and would have appreciated to be able to rip it. Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is.
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| From | Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 08:03 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bt1dkdFr05U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242548 |
On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said: > On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: > >> Silver Slimer wrote: > >>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >>> with. > >> No. >> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies > >> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs > > I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives > altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think > that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are > using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. > > People DO prefer online media, but I don't believing that any one of > those people will find the omission of an optical drive to be > liberating. The way Apple removed not only the optical drives but also > certain ports people came to rely on is ridiculous. Sure, most people > won't need a VGA port but maybe on one occasions they'll be forced to > connect to something which only works through VGA and they'd appreciate > having it there... and they don't have the time to go out and buy the > adapter. Maybe they DO buy all of their media from iTunes, but maybe > they found a good deal for a CD or DVD they've been looking for all of > their lives and would have appreciated to be able to rip it. > > Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop > to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is. I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years I've used it 3 times... Just sayin'!! :) -- Lloyd
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| From | Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 07:56 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <CF90E937.36C69%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> |
| In reply to | #242550 |
On 5/8/14, 6:03 AM, in article bt1dkdFr05U1@mid.individual.net, "Lloyd E Parsons" <lloydp21@live.com> wrote: > On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said: > >> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> >>> Silver Slimer wrote: >> >>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin >>>> with. >> >>> No. >>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >> >>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >> >> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. >> >> People DO prefer online media, but I don't believing that any one of >> those people will find the omission of an optical drive to be >> liberating. The way Apple removed not only the optical drives but also >> certain ports people came to rely on is ridiculous. Sure, most people >> won't need a VGA port but maybe on one occasions they'll be forced to >> connect to something which only works through VGA and they'd appreciate >> having it there... and they don't have the time to go out and buy the >> adapter. Maybe they DO buy all of their media from iTunes, but maybe >> they found a good deal for a CD or DVD they've been looking for all of >> their lives and would have appreciated to be able to rip it. >> >> Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop >> to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is. > > I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when > I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years > I've used it 3 times... > > Just sayin'!! :) I use mine a bit more... but I produce DVDs to sell. But that is hardly the norm and I can get an external for that. -- * Mint MATE: Trash, Panel, Menu: <http://youtu.be/C0y74FIf7uE> * Mint KDE bugs or Easter eggs? <http://youtu.be/CU-whJQvtfA> * Mint KDE working with folders: <http://youtu.be/7C9nvniOoE0> * Mint KDE creating files: <http://youtu.be/N7-fZJaJUv8> * Mint KDE help: <http://youtu.be/3ikizUd3sa8> * Mint KDE general navigation: <http://youtu.be/t9y14yZtQuI> * Mint / LibreOffice: <http://youtu.be/USU9iqppfto> * Win 8 / Word 2013: <http://youtu.be/z8gUL2TCcV4> * Mavericks / Pages 5.1: <http://youtu.be/D3BPWANQoIk>
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| From | GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 09:59 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <keCdnSIu8eJnNPbOnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@bresnan.com> |
| In reply to | #242550 |
On 5/8/2014 7:03 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote: > On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said: > >> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> >>> Silver Slimer wrote: >> >>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to >>>> begin >>>> with. >> >>> No. >>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >> >>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >> >> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. >> >> People DO prefer online media, but I don't believing that any one of >> those people will find the omission of an optical drive to be >> liberating. The way Apple removed not only the optical drives but also >> certain ports people came to rely on is ridiculous. Sure, most people >> won't need a VGA port but maybe on one occasions they'll be forced to >> connect to something which only works through VGA and they'd appreciate >> having it there... and they don't have the time to go out and buy the >> adapter. Maybe they DO buy all of their media from iTunes, but maybe >> they found a good deal for a CD or DVD they've been looking for all of >> their lives and would have appreciated to be able to rip it. >> >> Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop >> to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is. > > I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when > I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years > I've used it 3 times... > > Just sayin'!! :) > Is that a read/write optical drive? The ones I saw are read only. -- We've all heard that a million monkeys banging on a million typewriters will eventually reproduce the entire works of Shakespeare. Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true -- Robert Wilensky, 1997
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| From | Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <bt1rbuF3ng6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #242575 |
On 2014-05-08 15:59:49 +0000, GreyCloud said: > On 5/8/2014 7:03 AM, Lloyd E Parsons wrote: >> On 2014-05-08 12:54:26 +0000, Silver Slimer said: >> >>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> >>>> Silver Slimer wrote: >>> >>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to >>>>> begin >>>>> with. >>> >>>> No. >>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies >>> >>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs >>> >>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives >>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now. What I think >>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are >>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that. >>> >>> People DO prefer online media, but I don't believing that any one of >>> those people will find the omission of an optical drive to be >>> liberating. The way Apple removed not only the optical drives but also >>> certain ports people came to rely on is ridiculous. Sure, most people >>> won't need a VGA port but maybe on one occasions they'll be forced to >>> connect to something which only works through VGA and they'd appreciate >>> having it there... and they don't have the time to go out and buy the >>> adapter. Maybe they DO buy all of their media from iTunes, but maybe >>> they found a good deal for a CD or DVD they've been looking for all of >>> their lives and would have appreciated to be able to rip it. >>> >>> Call me old school but I enjoy having a plethora of ports on my laptop >>> to make sure that I'm equipped no matter what the situation is. >> >> I wasn't keen to the idea of doing away with the optical drive, so when >> I bought my MacBook Pro, I got an external one. In the last 2 years >> I've used it 3 times... >> >> Just sayin'!! :) >> > Is that a read/write optical drive? > > The ones I saw are read only. Yes. I've since given it to my son for his netbook so I don't remember the brand, but it wasn't a major brand and it cost something less than $40 as I remember. I haven't looked in a long time, but can't remember seeing a read-only optical drive in lots of years. -- Lloyd
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