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Re: Ubuntu, part 2

From Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Ubuntu, part 2
Date 2014-05-08 08:20 -0700
Message-ID <CF90EECF.36C7A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> (permalink)
References (7 earlier) <lkebbe$a24$1@dont-email.me> <lkebld$aui$1@dont-email.me> <bt11riFsrtiU2@mid.individual.net> <CF90E7EB.36C62%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <87siok5mzh.fsf@gmail.com>

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On 5/8/14, 8:06 AM, in article 87siok5mzh.fsf@gmail.com, "Hadron"
<hadronquark@gmail.com> wrote:

> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> writes:
> 
>> On 5/8/14, 2:42 AM, in article bt11riFsrtiU2@mid.individual.net, "White
>> Spirit" <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 07/05/2014 23:21, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Silver Slimer wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> I'm wondering if Macs even allow a person to install a BD drive to begin
>>>>> with.
>>> 
>>>> No.
>>>> The 3rd-party tools available are way below the support linux supplies
>>> 
>>>> BD is basically totally unuseable on Macs
>>> 
>>> I remember when Apple decided to stop installing optical drives
>>> altogether saying that people prefer on-line media now.  What I think
>>> that really means is Apple prefers on-line media as long as people are
>>> using iTunes and no longer providing optical drives will encourage that.
>> 
>> You are confusing two issues: I barely use my DVD drive but that does not
>> push me to use iTunes. Why would it?
> 
> You're talking to White Spurt. Only slightly less dumb than turd.
> 
> He's obsessed with DVD players for some reason : something you can pick
> up for a few dollars if you need it as a portable usb device. My current
> favorite laptop is a thinkpad without DVD built in. Why would I need
> that extra volume, weight and "thing to go wrong" when I've probably
> installed next to nothing form DVD in the last years - but then I do use
> Debian and pretty much everything I download using the package manager
> or compile from source for, e.g, the wireless chip.

Even on desktops they are not used by most people. I do have someone in my
extended family who makes home videos and then sends them to people on
DVDs... and I make DVDs for classes and the like. But we are edge cases. And
frankly with an all-in-one I have never liked the placement of the DVD... I
have a second monitor and I have to move it to get to the drive. When I
upgrade my computer I will have the DVD drive on the desk. It will generally
be pushed to the back or plopped in a drawer and not even plugged in.

Would it bother me if they kept it? No. Does it bother me that they removed
it... well, to be honest, when I first heard that I was a bit bothered - but
when I considered it and thought of the reasoning and logic and lack of most
people using them it makes sense.

> You must remember that White Spurt and wRonG are highly skilled analysts
> who know better than Apple what people want.

Of course!



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Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 18:11 -0400
  Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-06 17:06 -0700
  Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-06 20:39 -0400
    Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-06 17:44 -0700
    Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-06 21:27 -0400
      Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.invalid> - 2014-05-07 04:21 +0200
      Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-06 21:00 -0600
        Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 08:55 -0400
          Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-07 15:37 +0100
            Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 12:42 -0400
            Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-07 14:22 -0500
              Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 13:07 -0700
              Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 18:16 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-08 00:21 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 15:28 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2014-05-08 00:38 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 16:07 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 16:58 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 20:26 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:55 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 20:23 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 17:56 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 10:42 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:51 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 17:06 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 08:20 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-08 10:39 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 09:57 -0600
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-08 17:18 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 09:20 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-08 18:53 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:32 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-09 09:17 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 15:28 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 09:32 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 08:54 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 08:03 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:56 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 09:59 -0600
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 11:14 -0600
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 11:57 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 12:07 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 12:15 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2014-05-08 12:48 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 19:28 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2014-05-08 21:04 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:33 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 13:38 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 07:41 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-09 10:42 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 17:25 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 12:47 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 17:54 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 12:56 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-09 18:00 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 13:20 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:24 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 11:23 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:18 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-12 14:00 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 11:29 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 17:54 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 13:14 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:19 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 00:29 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 16:39 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 09:46 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 09:09 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 23:10 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 15:25 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-10 16:11 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 20:06 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 13:53 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 21:24 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-09 13:12 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:20 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-10 00:43 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 16:48 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 16:56 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-10 09:49 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-10 09:07 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-12 13:54 +0100
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 08:51 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:17 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-09 12:55 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:06 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-12 14:02 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-12 20:20 +0200
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-12 11:30 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-09 10:34 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-09 10:44 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-08 18:03 -0400
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-08 17:08 -0600
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 19:38 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 11:37 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-08 07:50 -0700
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2014-05-08 11:53 -0500
                Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 15:27 -0700
          Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 09:35 -0600
            Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Silver Slimer <slvrslmr@lv.c> - 2014-05-07 13:00 -0400
              Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2014-05-07 10:19 -0700
              Re: Ubuntu, part 2 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2014-05-07 11:37 -0600
      Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2014-05-07 17:25 +0100
    Re: Ubuntu, part 2 White Spirit <wspirit@homechoice.co.uk> - 2014-05-07 15:16 +0100
      Re: Ubuntu, part 2 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2014-05-07 10:16 -0700

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