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$1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less

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First post2014-05-04 19:23 +0100
Last post2014-05-05 16:51 -0700
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  $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2014-05-04 19:23 +0100
    Re: $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less 	flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com> - 2014-05-04 14:49 -0400
      Re: $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-04 13:34 -0700
      Re: $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2014-05-05 02:55 +0100
    Re: $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2014-05-05 11:05 -0400
      Re: $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less Hadron<hadronquark@gmail.com> - 2014-05-05 17:41 +0200
        Re: $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less Steve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com> - 2014-05-05 16:51 -0700

#241804 — $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less

From7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com>
Date2014-05-04 19:23 +0100
Subject$1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less
Message-ID<vAv9v.258322$_t1.89633@fx31.am4>
$1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less
-------------------------------------------------

To fully kit up a PC with proprietary
to the same equivalent as what a major distro
like Ubuntu offers, it would cost $1m or more
to have all the software, terabytes of source code, compilers, tools,
applications and features that open source provides
free. Around 25,000+ minimum ranging from 3D design,
games engines, libre office to kicad, gcc, and vi.

As the years have gone by since the open source movement
started, every single major product that open source
supports and sells is superiour to proprietary.

Management trolls in big crocporations like appile, microshaft,
oricle, farcebook etc are not educated
enough beyond their cubicle comfort zone
end while away believing in the power of employing
internet trolls and format wars to capture customers.

Their no plan B Elopic esque response is limited to fighting
the open source movement whilst continuing to loose their business
revenue as they employ vast numbers of internet trolls
and engage in format wars to retain their lost customers.

The companies that have embraced
open source such as google and Amazon have all come
out on top with more products, ervices and revenue than any
of its competitors and continue to conquer everything
they touch.

Management trolls on the other hand can only claim
to have 'stemmed the crimson tide' which is code for wasting
everyone's time and money in an attrition war
from which they have barely survived coming out with
less revenue and customers than what they started with.

Unlike google and Amazon for example that have more customers
because their management and engagement with open source
world is more honest and decent.

Open source will continue to get better and stronger.
There are still billionairs to be made who can
turn open source projects into monetized products
and services which everyone wants to buy and get support on.

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#241807

From flatfish+++ <phlatphish@yahoo.com>
Date2014-05-04 14:49 -0400
Message-ID<fl1bodzsnz4$.xcx7otoio9dq$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#241804
On Sun, 04 May 2014 19:23:22 +0100, 7 wrote:

> $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less
> -------------------------------------------------
> 
> To fully kit up a PC with proprietary
> to the same equivalent as what a major distro
> like Ubuntu offers, it would cost $1m or more
> to have all the software, terabytes of source code, compilers, tools,
> applications and features that open source provides
> free. Around 25,000+ minimum ranging from 3D design,
> games engines, libre office to kicad, gcc, and vi.

The concept of duplication hasn't occurred to you has it?
And then there is quality vs quantity.
Open Source loses big time when that is considered which is one
reason Open Source is ignored.

Let's see how many of the Linux loons call you out on your insanity.

-- 
flatfish+++

163 Reasons not to deal with Michael "Snit" Glasser, the Prescott 
Computer Guy
http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html

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#241830

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-04 13:34 -0700
Message-ID<8a2c9866-8f11-477e-abac-4644aebc5fc6@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#241807
On Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:49:24 PM UTC, flatfish+++ wrote:
> On Sun, 04 May 2014 19:23:22 +0100, 7 wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> > $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less
> 
> > -------------------------------------------------
> 
> > 
> 
> > To fully kit up a PC with proprietary
> 
> > to the same equivalent as what a major distro
> 
> > like Ubuntu offers, it would cost $1m or more
> 
> > to have all the software, terabytes of source code, compilers, tools,
> 
> > applications and features that open source provides
> 
> > free. Around 25,000+ minimum ranging from 3D design,
> 
> > games engines, libre office to kicad, gcc, and vi.
> 
> 
> 
> The concept of duplication hasn't occurred to you has it?

He is almost as stupid as Snit.

> 
> And then there is quality vs quantity.
> 
> Open Source loses big time when that is considered which is one
> 
> reason Open Source is ignored.
> 
> 
> 
> Let's see how many of the Linux loons call you out on your insanity.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> flatfish+++
> 
> 
> 
> 163 Reasons not to deal with Michael "Snit" Glasser, the Prescott 
> 
> Computer Guy
> 
> http://cosmicpenguin.com/snitlist.html

Another forum ruined by Michael Glasser Prescott Computer Guy of Prescott, Arizona.

http://prescottcomputerguy.com

His web design expertise is shown here

http://prescottcomputerguy.com/web_design.html

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#241927

From7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com>
Date2014-05-05 02:55 +0100
Message-ID<hcC9v.175776$vM2.172049@fx18.am4>
In reply to#241807
	flatfish+++ wrote:

> The concept


It seems you are just an internet troll and must read again the OP.

After that, you can explain what you understood before foaming.

All other options to internet trolls like you obsessing over
have probably / will have landed in a kill file.



$1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less
-------------------------------------------------

To fully kit up a PC with proprietary
to the same equivalent as what a major distro
like Ubuntu offers, it would cost $1m or more
to have all the software, terabytes of source code, compilers, tools,
applications and features that open source provides
free. Around 25,000+ minimum ranging from 3D design,
games engines, libre office to kicad, gcc, and vi.

As the years have gone by since the open source movement
started, every single major product that the open source world
supports and sells is superiour to proprietary.

Management trolls in big crocporations like appile, microshaft,
oricle, farcebook etc are not educated
enough beyond their cubicle comfort zone, they
while away corporate resource taking great care in
believing internet medicine men selling used snake oil
and internet trolling services. Their dumbness is compounded
by resorting to failed management troll weapons
like grabbing at digital data format wars to 'retain' customers.

Their no plan B Elopic esque response is limited to fighting
the open source movement whilst continuing to loose their business
revenue as they employ vast numbers of internet trolls
and engage in format wars to retain their lost customers.

The companies that have embraced
open source such as google and Amazon have all come
out on top with more products, services and revenue than any
of its competitors and continue to conquer everything
they touch.

Management trolls on the other hand can only claim
to have 'stemmed the crimson tide' which is code for wasting
everyone's time and money in an attrition war
from which they have barely survived coming out with
less revenue and customers than what they started with.

Unlike google and Amazon for example that have more customers
because their management don't waste company
time and resources engaged in management trolling operations.
Their engagement with open source
world is more honest and decent by comparison.

Open source will continue to get better and stronger.
There are still billionairs to be made who can
turn open source projects into monetized products
and services which everyone wants to buy to get supported on.

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#241996

FromDFS <nospam@dfs.com>
Date2014-05-05 11:05 -0400
Message-ID<lk89bd$6ht$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#241804
On 5/4/2014 2:23 PM, 7 wrote:
> $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less
> -------------------------------------------------
>
> To fully kit up a PC with proprietary
> to the same equivalent as what a major distro
> like Ubuntu offers, it would cost $1m or more

Yet a raving clown like you won't even pay $10.


> to have all the software, terabytes of source code, compilers, tools,
> applications and features that open source provides
> free. Around 25,000+ minimum ranging from 3D design,
> games engines, libre office to kicad, gcc, and vi.


Most of it - or a close equivalent - is available for Windows. For free.

Why don't you know that already, little fraud?



There's some good OSS, but the best code, by far, is proprietary.

best 3d game engines: proprietary

best office software: proprietary

best 3d graphic/modeling software: proprietary

best rdbms: proprietary

best music production: proprietary

best accounting software: proprietary

best statistical software: proprietary

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#242004

FromHadron<hadronquark@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-05 17:41 +0200
Message-ID<878uqguta3.fsf@gmail.com>
In reply to#241996
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> writes:

> On 5/4/2014 2:23 PM, 7 wrote:
>> $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less
>> -------------------------------------------------
>>
>> To fully kit up a PC with proprietary
>> to the same equivalent as what a major distro
>> like Ubuntu offers, it would cost $1m or more
>
> Yet a raving clown like you won't even pay $10.
>
>> to have all the software, terabytes of source code, compilers, tools,
>> applications and features that open source provides
>> free. Around 25,000+ minimum ranging from 3D design,
>> games engines, libre office to kicad, gcc, and vi.
>
> Most of it - or a close equivalent - is available for Windows. For free.
>
> Why don't you know that already, little fraud?
>
> There's some good OSS, but the best code, by far, is proprietary.
>
> best 3d game engines: proprietary
>
> best office software: proprietary
>
> best 3d graphic/modeling software: proprietary
>
> best rdbms: proprietary
>
> best music production: proprietary
>
> best accounting software: proprietary
>
> best statistical software: proprietary
>
>


Yeah, but any of that morph into a golden solar eagle and fly to mars
with the fat walrus at the controls?

No....

You seem to forget the fat sardine catcher "thinks in hex and bits and
bytes"......

-- 
"I have a BSEE.... Negative feedback has many benefits, but "maintaining stability" is not one of them. Just the opposite, in fact." 
The turdv/chrisv idiot and his pretend BSEE degree.
PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS
http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

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#242041

FromSteve Carroll <fretwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2014-05-05 16:51 -0700
Message-ID<b2727455-27f0-4e55-9a56-77f270e3d3d2@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#242004
On Monday, May 5, 2014 3:41:56 PM UTC, Hadron wrote:
> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> writes:
> 
> 
> 
> > On 5/4/2014 2:23 PM, 7 wrote:
> 
> >> $1m propietary costs suck, Open source costs less
> 
> >> -------------------------------------------------
> 
> >>
> 
> >> To fully kit up a PC with proprietary
> 
> >> to the same equivalent as what a major distro
> 
> >> like Ubuntu offers, it would cost $1m or more
> 
> >
> 
> > Yet a raving clown like you won't even pay $10.
> 
> >
> 
> >> to have all the software, terabytes of source code, compilers, tools,
> 
> >> applications and features that open source provides
> 
> >> free. Around 25,000+ minimum ranging from 3D design,
> 
> >> games engines, libre office to kicad, gcc, and vi.
> 
> >
> 
> > Most of it - or a close equivalent - is available for Windows. For free.
> 
> >
> 
> > Why don't you know that already, little fraud?
> 
> >
> 
> > There's some good OSS, but the best code, by far, is proprietary.
> 
> >
> 
> > best 3d game engines: proprietary
> 
> >
> 
> > best office software: proprietary
> 
> >
> 
> > best 3d graphic/modeling software: proprietary
> 
> >
> 
> > best rdbms: proprietary
> 
> >
> 
> > best music production: proprietary
> 
> >
> 
> > best accounting software: proprietary
> 
> >
> 
> > best statistical software: proprietary
> 
> >
> 
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Yeah, but any of that morph into a golden solar eagle and fly to mars
> 
> with the fat walrus at the controls?
> 
> 
> 
> No....
> 
> 
> 
> You seem to forget the fat sardine catcher "thinks in hex and bits and
> 
> bytes"......

You seem to forget you are the last person defending Snit.

> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> "I have a BSEE.... Negative feedback has many benefits, but "maintaining stability" is not one of them. Just the opposite, in fact." 
> 
> The turdv/chrisv idiot and his pretend BSEE degree.
> 
> PLEASE VISIT OUR HALL OF LINUX IDIOTS
> 
> http://linuxidiots.blogspot.com/

Another forum ruined by 
Michael Glasser Prescott Computer Guy of Prescott, Arizona.
http://prescottcomputerguy.com
His web design expertise is shown here 
http://prescottcomputerguy.com/web_design.html

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