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For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks...

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First post2018-09-26 17:46 +0000
Last post2018-09-27 12:00 -0400
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  For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-26 17:46 +0000
    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-26 19:14 +0000
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 17:37 -0400
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 18:50 -0400
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 17:20 -0700
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-26 23:16 +0000
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-26 16:20 -0700
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 19:24 -0400
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-26 23:36 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 19:58 -0400
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-27 00:10 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 20:53 -0400
                  No automatic updates, Windows 10. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2018-09-27 04:51 -0700
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:59 +0000
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:40 +0000
                    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 21:53 +0000
                    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 07:15 -0500
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:54 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 21:02 -0400
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 15:39 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 15:43 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-27 12:20 -0400
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:51 +0000
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:00 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-28 07:09 -0400
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:49 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 21:59 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-28 07:08 -0400
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 16:17 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:10 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:38 +0000
    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-26 19:45 -0400
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 00:58 +0000
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-28 07:11 -0400
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 12:28 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 07:56 -0500
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 14:56 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 10:40 -0500
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 15:52 +0000
                    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 15:25 -0500
                      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-09-28 21:05 +0000
                        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:08 +0000
                          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-09-30 07:22 -0400
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-30 20:48 +0000
                              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-01 14:58 -0400
                                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 19:31 +0000
                                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-01 19:03 -0400
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 01:53 -0700
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-01 07:49 -0500
                              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-01 13:44 +0000
                              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 07:06 -0700
                              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-10-01 14:53 -0400
                        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-01 07:45 -0500
                          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... fr314159@gmail.com - 2018-10-01 09:12 -0700
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-01 09:29 -0700
                            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-10-01 18:33 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:24 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-09-28 15:28 -0500
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 22:05 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 22:06 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 16:18 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 18:16 +0000
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> - 2018-09-26 20:59 -0400
        Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 15:37 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 15:41 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 16:00 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 17:01 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 21:49 +0000
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-28 02:03 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:57 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-09-27 13:15 -0700
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:06 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:14 +0000
                  Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 16:40 +0000
          Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-27 18:54 +0000
            Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-27 22:04 +0000
              Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:10 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-09-28 04:33 +0000
                Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-09-28 16:36 +0000
    Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... "F. Russell" <fr@random.info> - 2018-09-27 12:28 +0000
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2018-09-27 15:35 +0000
      Re: For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks... DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-09-27 12:00 -0400

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#468894 — For whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks...

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-26 17:46 +0000
SubjectFor whatever reason, Windows beats Ubuntu in GPU benchmarks...
Message-ID<5CPqD.180427$4S3.150047@fx47.iad>
... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
windows10-ubuntu&num=2>

The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be 
fixed? 

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#468912

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-26 19:14 +0000
Message-ID<poglpq$6su$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#468894
On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>
> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be 
> fixed? 

The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the benchmark in 
question is skewed for Windows. 

And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."

-- 
The more I see of Windows, the more I like Linux.

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#468944

FromSam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net>
Date2018-09-26 17:37 -0400
Message-ID<10upnadnewsyd$.19gy70dk49nu0$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#468912
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:14:02 -0000 (UTC), RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>
>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be 
>> fixed? 
> 
> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the benchmark in 
> question is skewed for Windows. 
> 
> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."

Surely you jest.

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#468956

FromDFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date2018-09-26 18:50 -0400
Message-ID<I1UqD.36385$6y.5054@fx09.iad>
In reply to#468912
On 9/26/2018 3:14 PM, RonB wrote:
> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>
>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>> fixed?
> 
> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the benchmark in
> question is skewed for Windows.
> 
> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."


They also say wRonG is a fucking idiot.

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#469617

FromSteve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-30 17:20 -0700
Message-ID<8fef1bd3-abb3-4b2f-8b2b-c0738e53c34b@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#468956
On Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 3:49:14 PM UTC-7, DFS wrote:
> On 9/26/2018 3:14 PM, RonB wrote:
> > On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> >> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
> >> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
> >>
> >> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
> >> fixed?
> > 
> > The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the benchmark in
> > question is skewed for Windows.
> > 
> > And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
> 
> 
> They also say wRonG is a fucking idiot.



These posts are clearly *not* automated, they are made by an overmedicated pervert with a sick agenda who has way too much time on his hands (and possibly has other morons helping him). Snit's posts are nothing but a valueless rambling. After yesterday's update I no longer can get work done on Linux. Like anyone can! 

Just look at your programs and look at mine, there is nothing for Sandman to learn from a fool like Snit. But hey, let him keep making a moron of himself. I am sure one of his stooges will come to the rescue. 

From the way Snit responded - by getting wrong fundamentals of the operating system and the like - he has certainly not understood a computationally complex issue before. Otherwise he would have understood the requirements of declaring variables! 

--
Eight things to never feed your cat
http://www.5z8.info/gruesome-gunshot-wounds_t5z0au_cockdock.gif
http://www.5z8.info/mercenary_w5v9dl_open.exe
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/comp.sys.mac.advocacy/RSikBcWxBLo
Jonas Eklundh Communication AB

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#468961

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-26 23:16 +0000
Message-ID<trUqD.82039$OM2.8259@fx37.iad>
In reply to#468912
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:14:02 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>
>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>> fixed?
> 
> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the benchmark
> in question is skewed for Windows.
> 
> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."

Perhaps it actually has some benefits for gaming.

The only thing that would make me abandon Linux now is the knowledge that 
social justice warriors indeed implemented a Code of Conduct which 
benefited "diversity" over quality code by making it more important to 
have blacks and homosexuals adding to the kernel than people who actually 
know what they're doing. 

-- 
SilverSlimer
FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#468964

FromSnit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Date2018-09-26 16:20 -0700
Message-ID<g12iifF4elbU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#468961
On 9/26/18 4:16 PM, SilverSlimer wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:14:02 +0000, RonB wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>>
>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>>> fixed?
>>
>> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the benchmark
>> in question is skewed for Windows.
>>
>> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
> 
> Perhaps it actually has some benefits for gaming.
> 
> The only thing that would make me abandon Linux now is the knowledge that
> social justice warriors indeed implemented a Code of Conduct which
> benefited "diversity" over quality code by making it more important to
> have blacks and homosexuals adding to the kernel than people who actually
> know what they're doing.
> 

The point is not to keep EXCLUDING people who are different.

-- 
Personal attacks from those who troll show their own insecurity. They 
cannot use reason to show the message to be wrong so they try to feel 
somehow superior by attacking the messenger.

They cling to their attacks and ignore the message time and time again.

<https://youtu.be/H4NW-Cqh308>

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#468967

FromSam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net>
Date2018-09-26 19:24 -0400
Message-ID<1a62xtcu28fxg.1fgs4sj8qxig$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#468961
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:16:41 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:14:02 +0000, RonB wrote:
> 
>> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>>
>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>>> fixed?
>> 
>> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the benchmark
>> in question is skewed for Windows.
>> 
>> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
> 
> Perhaps it actually has some benefits for gaming.
> 
> The only thing that would make me abandon Linux now is the knowledge that 
> social justice warriors indeed implemented a Code of Conduct which 
> benefited "diversity" over quality code by making it more important to 
> have blacks and homosexuals adding to the kernel than people who actually 
> know what they're doing.

And as predicted here it comes. Get ready for the slimer returning to
Windows posts. So who had the pool predicting this? I claim winner status.

Slimer, why not admit it?
You know Linux sucks.
Your privacy issues with Windows mean zero because you are using the same
search engines, the same email addresses, the same ISP, etc under Windows
that you use under Linux so your privacy is exposed either way.

Why not be honest and admit Linux does nothing, in your particular case,
better than Windows?
You know it's true.
Everyone who has used Linux and a modern version of Windows knows the same
thing.

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#468975

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-09-26 23:36 +0000
Message-ID<9a9ba093.agi3@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#468967
Sam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:16:41 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:14:02 +0000, RonB wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>>>
>>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>>>> fixed?
>>> 
>>> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the benchmark
>>> in question is skewed for Windows.
>>> 
>>> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
>> 
>> Perhaps it actually has some benefits for gaming.
>> 
>> The only thing that would make me abandon Linux now is the knowledge that 
>> social justice warriors indeed implemented a Code of Conduct which 
>> benefited "diversity" over quality code by making it more important to 
>> have blacks and homosexuals adding to the kernel than people who actually 
>> know what they're doing.
> 
> And as predicted here it comes. Get ready for the slimer returning to
> Windows posts. So who had the pool predicting this? I claim winner status.
> 
> Slimer, why not admit it?
> You know Linux sucks.
> Your privacy issues with Windows mean zero because you are using the same
> search engines, the same email addresses, the same ISP, etc under Windows
> that you use under Linux so your privacy is exposed either way.
> 
> Why not be honest and admit Linux does nothing, in your particular case,
> better than Windows?
> You know it's true.
> Everyone who has used Linux and a modern version of Windows knows the same
> thing.

Ask DFS why he doesn't run a modern version of Windows.

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#468985

FromDFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date2018-09-26 19:58 -0400
Message-ID<g2VqD.144757$lM2.102115@fx39.iad>
In reply to#468975
On 9/26/2018 7:36 PM, owl wrote:

> Ask DFS why he doesn't run a modern version of Windows.


eh?  Win8.1 is 5 years old.


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#468987

Fromowl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Date2018-09-27 00:10 +0000
Message-ID<9g0797z9bz.d23@rooftop.invalid>
In reply to#468985
DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
> On 9/26/2018 7:36 PM, owl wrote:
> 
>> Ask DFS why he doesn't run a modern version of Windows.
> 
> 
> eh?  Win8.1 is 5 years old.
> 

That's like being a Win 3.1 holdover when the world had moved
on to Win 95/98.   Nothing wrong with picking a version a and
sticking to it, but why the 8.x series?  That was like a blip
between 7 and 10 that nobody wants to remember.  7 was the last
halfway usable version of the doze.
 

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#468992

FromDFS <nospam@nospam.com>
Date2018-09-26 20:53 -0400
Message-ID<CQVqD.35979$xo2.28581@fx31.iad>
In reply to#468987
On 9/26/2018 8:10 PM, owl wrote:
> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 9/26/2018 7:36 PM, owl wrote:
>>
>>> Ask DFS why he doesn't run a modern version of Windows.
>>
>>
>> eh?  Win8.1 is 5 years old.
>>
> 
> That's like being a Win 3.1 holdover when the world had moved
> on to Win 95/98.   Nothing wrong with picking a version a and
> sticking to it, but why the 8.x series?  That was like a blip
> between 7 and 10 that nobody wants to remember.  7 was the last
> halfway usable version of the doze.


I went from Win 3.0 to 3.1 to 95 to 98 to 2000 to Server 2003 to 7 to 
8.1.  Skipped XP.

Bought and tried Win10 and didn't like it.  Plus it initially forced 
updates on you.  I'll probably move to it at some point - as long as you 
can indefinitely defer updates (and not defer them 3 days at a time 
between nag screens).

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#469031 — No automatic updates, Windows 10.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2018-09-27 04:51 -0700
SubjectNo automatic updates, Windows 10.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Sep.27--4.51am.Seattle.2018>
In reply to#468992
No automatic updates, Windows 10:     "Jeff-Relf.Me/Win10.REG.TXT"

;  Take ownership of "DefaultMediaCost" -Manually-, Merge and ReBoot.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\NetworkList\DefaultMediaCost]
; 1 - UnMetered;  2 - "metered" ( no automatic updates ).
@=dword:2
"Default"=dword:2
"WiFi"=dword:2
"Ethernet"=dword:2

Run "services.msc" to "Disable" the following services:
  "Windows Update", "Windows Modules Installer", and
  "Background Intelligence transfer" services; then reboot.

AutoRuns.EXE kills "Startup" items.

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#468998

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-27 00:59 +0000
Message-ID<XXVqD.122727$LK2.27722@fx36.iad>
In reply to#468987
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:10:40 +0000, owl wrote:

> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>> On 9/26/2018 7:36 PM, owl wrote:
>> 
>>> Ask DFS why he doesn't run a modern version of Windows.
>> 
>> 
>> eh?  Win8.1 is 5 years old.
>> 
>> 
> That's like being a Win 3.1 holdover when the world had moved on to Win
> 95/98.   Nothing wrong with picking a version a and sticking to it, but
> why the 8.x series?  That was like a blip between 7 and 10 that nobody
> wants to remember.  7 was the last halfway usable version of the doze.

I actually liked 8 quite a bit. I didn't see the need for the "modern" 
apps, but the desktop part was quite fine.



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#469119

FromRonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com>
Date2018-09-27 18:40 +0000
Message-ID<poj878$hd4$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#468998
On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:10:40 +0000, owl wrote:
>
>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> On 9/26/2018 7:36 PM, owl wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Ask DFS why he doesn't run a modern version of Windows.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> eh?  Win8.1 is 5 years old.
>>> 
>>> 
>> That's like being a Win 3.1 holdover when the world had moved on to Win
>> 95/98.   Nothing wrong with picking a version a and sticking to it, but
>> why the 8.x series?  That was like a blip between 7 and 10 that nobody
>> wants to remember.  7 was the last halfway usable version of the doze.
>
> I actually liked 8 quite a bit. I didn't see the need for the "modern" 
> apps, but the desktop part was quite fine.

Really? Schizophrenic Windows? Your opinion wasn't shared by many. They, 
more or less, fixed it in 8.1 (which really should have been called 9.0).

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#469158

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-27 21:53 +0000
Message-ID<GjcrD.95933$vJ1.4117@fx05.iad>
In reply to#469119
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 18:40:40 +0000, RonB wrote:

> On 2018-09-27, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:10:40 +0000, owl wrote:
>>
>>> DFS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> On 9/26/2018 7:36 PM, owl wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Ask DFS why he doesn't run a modern version of Windows.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> eh?  Win8.1 is 5 years old.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> That's like being a Win 3.1 holdover when the world had moved on to
>>> Win 95/98.   Nothing wrong with picking a version a and sticking to
>>> it, but why the 8.x series?  That was like a blip between 7 and 10
>>> that nobody wants to remember.  7 was the last halfway usable version
>>> of the doze.
>>
>> I actually liked 8 quite a bit. I didn't see the need for the "modern"
>> apps, but the desktop part was quite fine.
> 
> Really? Schizophrenic Windows? Your opinion wasn't shared by many. They,
> more or less, fixed it in 8.1 (which really should have been called
> 9.0).

I mostly ignored the "modern" stuff so the end result is that 8 and 8.1, 
for me, were just prettier versions of Windows 7. Of course, "pretty" is 
in the eye of the beholder. 



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#469231

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2018-09-28 07:15 -0500
Message-ID<cl6sqd1r0gicel9dd6ae4s17om8jhfujqm@4ax.com>
In reply to#469119
RonB wrote:

> SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>
>> I actually liked 8 quite a bit. I didn't see the need for the "modern" 
>> apps, but the desktop part was quite fine.
>
>Really? Schizophrenic Windows? Your opinion wasn't shared by many. 

It shows us how wrong a "committee" of "professionals" who "know
what's best for us" can be.

-- 
"Canonical, Google, Apple and Microsoft are all real companies that
employee people who actually understand the topic. You, Köhlmann,
turdv and Dumb Willy are all a bunch of posers who have no idea what
this actually is, what it's trying to accomplish and why they're doing
it."  -  trolling fsckwit "Ezekiel", arguing that we were "wrong" to
reject touch/mobile optimized UI's on the desktop

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#468993

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-27 00:54 +0000
Message-ID<JSVqD.122722$LK2.17225@fx36.iad>
In reply to#468967
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:24:06 -0400, Sam O'Nella wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:16:41 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:14:02 +0000, RonB wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>>>
>>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>>>> fixed?
>>> 
>>> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the
>>> benchmark in question is skewed for Windows.
>>> 
>>> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
>> 
>> Perhaps it actually has some benefits for gaming.
>> 
>> The only thing that would make me abandon Linux now is the knowledge
>> that social justice warriors indeed implemented a Code of Conduct which
>> benefited "diversity" over quality code by making it more important to
>> have blacks and homosexuals adding to the kernel than people who
>> actually know what they're doing.
> 
> And as predicted here it comes. Get ready for the slimer returning to
> Windows posts. So who had the pool predicting this? I claim winner
> status.
> 
> Slimer, why not admit it?
> You know Linux sucks.

It actually doesn't.

> Your privacy issues with Windows mean zero because you are using the
> same search engines, the same email addresses, the same ISP, etc under
> Windows that you use under Linux so your privacy is exposed either way.

The same ISP is true, but my e-mail address is different (mostly because 
Unseen can't seem to fix their smtp server) and my search engine of 
choice respects privacy.

> Why not be honest and admit Linux does nothing, in your particular case,
> better than Windows?

Desktop security and stability are two things it does better. It also 
plays older games better.

> You know it's true.

I don't.

> Everyone who has used Linux and a modern version of Windows knows the
> same thing.

Windows has a lot more issues than GNU/Linux does, the way I see it. It's 
a complete mess when it comes to consistency and driver support is kind 
of a joke as well, especially on Bluetooth for some reason on my machine. 
The 4.15 Linux kernel supports my BT chip perfectly but Windows, even 
with the manufacturer's own driver, can't seem to get its act together.



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FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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#469000

FromSam O'Nella <poison@donteatit.net>
Date2018-09-26 21:02 -0400
Message-ID<1626yg0c8qwk4.vqeg5a5ohgoz.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#468993
On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:54:01 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:

> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:24:06 -0400, Sam O'Nella wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:16:41 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:14:02 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>>>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>>>>
>>>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>>>>> fixed?
>>>> 
>>>> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the
>>>> benchmark in question is skewed for Windows.
>>>> 
>>>> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
>>> 
>>> Perhaps it actually has some benefits for gaming.
>>> 
>>> The only thing that would make me abandon Linux now is the knowledge
>>> that social justice warriors indeed implemented a Code of Conduct which
>>> benefited "diversity" over quality code by making it more important to
>>> have blacks and homosexuals adding to the kernel than people who
>>> actually know what they're doing.
>> 
>> And as predicted here it comes. Get ready for the slimer returning to
>> Windows posts. So who had the pool predicting this? I claim winner
>> status.
>> 
>> Slimer, why not admit it?
>> You know Linux sucks.
> 
> It actually doesn't.
> 
>> Your privacy issues with Windows mean zero because you are using the
>> same search engines, the same email addresses, the same ISP, etc under
>> Windows that you use under Linux so your privacy is exposed either way.
> 
> The same ISP is true, but my e-mail address is different (mostly because 
> Unseen can't seem to fix their smtp server) and my search engine of 
> choice respects privacy.
> 
>> Why not be honest and admit Linux does nothing, in your particular case,
>> better than Windows?
> 
> Desktop security and stability are two things it does better. It also 
> plays older games better.
> 
>> You know it's true.
> 
> I don't.
> 
>> Everyone who has used Linux and a modern version of Windows knows the
>> same thing.
> 
> Windows has a lot more issues than GNU/Linux does, the way I see it. It's 
> a complete mess when it comes to consistency and driver support is kind 
> of a joke as well, especially on Bluetooth for some reason on my machine. 
> The 4.15 Linux kernel supports my BT chip perfectly but Windows, even 
> with the manufacturer's own driver, can't seem to get its act together.

And where does this fit in the overall scheme of things?
Come one, you're not fooling anyone.
Windows isn't perfect, we all know that, but to claim, as a non-programmer,
cli junkie, that Linux is superior is just kidding yourself.
You know it.
Linux users know it.
Everyone knows it.
Come clean already. The jig is up.

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#469062

FromSilverSlimer <silver@slim.er>
Date2018-09-27 15:39 +0000
Message-ID<5R6rD.65529$9O2.3526@fx03.iad>
In reply to#469000
On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 21:02:51 -0400, Sam O'Nella wrote:

> On Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:54:01 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:24:06 -0400, Sam O'Nella wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 23:16:41 GMT, SilverSlimer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Wed, 26 Sep 2018 19:14:02 +0000, RonB wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2018-09-26, SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
>>>>>> ... <https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=rtx2080ti-
>>>>>> windows10-ubuntu&num=2>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The numbers don't lie but is this something which can eventually be
>>>>>> fixed?
>>>>> 
>>>>> The only way Windows 10 could be faster than Ubuntu is if the
>>>>> benchmark in question is skewed for Windows.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And, as they say, "figures don't lie, but liars figure."
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps it actually has some benefits for gaming.
>>>> 
>>>> The only thing that would make me abandon Linux now is the knowledge
>>>> that social justice warriors indeed implemented a Code of Conduct
>>>> which benefited "diversity" over quality code by making it more
>>>> important to have blacks and homosexuals adding to the kernel than
>>>> people who actually know what they're doing.
>>> 
>>> And as predicted here it comes. Get ready for the slimer returning to
>>> Windows posts. So who had the pool predicting this? I claim winner
>>> status.
>>> 
>>> Slimer, why not admit it?
>>> You know Linux sucks.
>> 
>> It actually doesn't.
>> 
>>> Your privacy issues with Windows mean zero because you are using the
>>> same search engines, the same email addresses, the same ISP, etc under
>>> Windows that you use under Linux so your privacy is exposed either
>>> way.
>> 
>> The same ISP is true, but my e-mail address is different (mostly
>> because Unseen can't seem to fix their smtp server) and my search
>> engine of choice respects privacy.
>> 
>>> Why not be honest and admit Linux does nothing, in your particular
>>> case,
>>> better than Windows?
>> 
>> Desktop security and stability are two things it does better. It also
>> plays older games better.
>> 
>>> You know it's true.
>> 
>> I don't.
>> 
>>> Everyone who has used Linux and a modern version of Windows knows the
>>> same thing.
>> 
>> Windows has a lot more issues than GNU/Linux does, the way I see it.
>> It's a complete mess when it comes to consistency and driver support is
>> kind of a joke as well, especially on Bluetooth for some reason on my
>> machine.
>> The 4.15 Linux kernel supports my BT chip perfectly but Windows, even
>> with the manufacturer's own driver, can't seem to get its act together.
> 
> And where does this fit in the overall scheme of things?
> Come one, you're not fooling anyone.
> Windows isn't perfect, we all know that, but to claim, as a
> non-programmer,
> cli junkie, that Linux is superior is just kidding yourself.
> You know it.
> Linux users know it.
> Everyone knows it.
> Come clean already. The jig is up.

What I know for a fact is that I don't need to worry about malware and 
updates taking over my computer while using GNU/Linux. Not only that, but 
installing and trying out applications is a lot easier when you don't 
have to venture onto some obscure website and install it manually. 
Repositories are the greatest thing and it's a shame Microsoft hasn't yet 
seen the benefit of having one for all applications, not just the shite 
they put in the Windows Store.



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FSF Contributor / EFF Member / Free speech advocate
Absolute centrist, proud Catholic

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