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  Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-07 13:47 -0700
    Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-08-07 21:18 +0000
    Re: Microsoft Linux Layer flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 19:49 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Linux Layer flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 19:57 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-07 17:15 -0700
        Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 18:03 -0700
          Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-07 18:35 -0700
            Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-08-07 18:48 -0700
            Re: Microsoft Linux Layer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-08 14:34 -0400
              Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-08 12:17 -0700
        Re: Microsoft Linux Layer flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 22:14 -0400
          is hitting a guy with a pillow flirtin? flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.cum> - 2016-08-10 05:13 -0500
        Re: Microsoft Linux Layer -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-08 09:57 -0700
          Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-08 10:22 -0700
    Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-08 07:52 +0200
      Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-08 08:47 -0700
    Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-08-08 05:30 -0400
      Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-08-08 16:14 +0100
        Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-08 08:56 -0700
          Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-08-08 12:02 -0400
            Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-08-08 17:22 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-08 09:35 -0700
              Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-08 19:00 +0200
                Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-08 10:14 -0700
          Re: Microsoft Linux Layer William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-08-08 17:09 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-08-08 17:19 +0100
            Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-08 09:38 -0700
              Re: Microsoft Linux Layer chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-08-08 11:57 -0500
                Re: Microsoft Linux Layer -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2016-08-08 16:56 -0700
                  Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 12:07 -0700
                    Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 14:15 -0700
                      Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-08-09 20:09 -0400
                        Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2016-08-09 20:13 -0700
                  Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC. benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2016-08-09 17:51 -0400
                Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-08-09 09:23 +0100
      re: Microsoft Linux Layer "1 eyed chicken" <chicken@gmail.com> - 2016-08-08 20:14 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Linux Layer DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-08-08 13:50 -0400

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#364799

On 08/08/2016 17:02, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2016-08-08, Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>> On 08/08/2016 10:30, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?
>>>
>>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging technologies but
>                                         =============================
>
> LOL That is exactly what the Microsoft Linux Layer is not.

To the Windows environment it is, granted Cygwin has been around for a 
while but this is new.

Of course a blinkered Linux Desktop user would not see that.

>
>>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's with
>>> command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few who get
>>> their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer printing their
>>> favourite ASCII art porn.
>
> The usual non sequitur from Siwwy Wabbit.

Less of the baby talk moron, you sound like a 5 year old so it's hard to 
take you seriously.

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#364800

On 2016-08-08, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>
>> On 2016-08-08, Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>> On 08/08/2016 10:30, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?
>>>
>>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging technologies but 
>                                         =============================
>
> LOL That is exactly what the Microsoft Linux Layer is not.
>
>>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's with 
>>> command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few who get 
>>> their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer printing their 
>>> favourite ASCII art porn.
>
> The usual non sequitur from Siwwy Wabbit.
>
>> You can do both.   
>
> Of course.
>
>    http://www.infoworld.com/article/3050845/microsoft-windows/microsoft-embraces-linux-way-too-late.html
>
>    In this case, Microsoft is very, very late to the game and isn't offering
>    a competing product -- it's trying to accommodate the competition in an
>    effort to save itself. We haven't seen that before, and it will be
>    interesting to note how it all plays out.
>
>    In the meantime, I’m pretty sure there won’t be a mad rush of devs and
>    admins dying to run a highly limited Ubuntu user space on Windows 10.
>    They'll stick with their Macs and Mint boxes.

It's not very compelling, honestly. And honestly Microsoft is seeing the
trend moving away from them and to open source. I thought I recently
read an article which was talking about how open source used to be the
exception in the fortune 500 but that it is now the rule. It was said
that some 78% of companies are now using open source software to run
their vital services. 

Using Linux for their switched fabric and offering hosted Linux on Azure
really just shows the shift at Microsoft. Now we see SQLServer ported to
Linux. .Net dev tools open sourced. And now even on the desktop
Microsoft wants to try to be competitive but I think the mind-share is
already on Linux for open source software. This is nothing that would
cause me to take a second look at Windows. If not for the Adobe suite I
need, I'd not give this any thought at all. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#364806

On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 09:35:07 -0700
Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:

> On 2016-08-08, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
> > Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> >  
> >> On 2016-08-08, Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:  
> >>> On 08/08/2016 10:30, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:  
> >>>> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
> >>>> royalties:
> >>>>
> >>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?  
> >>>
> >>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging
> >>> technologies but   
> >                                         =============================
> >
> > LOL That is exactly what the Microsoft Linux Layer is not.
> >  
> >>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's
> >>> with command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few
> >>> who get their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer
> >>> printing their favourite ASCII art porn.  
> >
> > The usual non sequitur from Siwwy Wabbit.
> >  
> >> You can do both.     
> >
> > Of course.
> >
> >    http://www.infoworld.com/article/3050845/microsoft-windows/microsoft-embraces-linux-way-too-late.html
> >
> >    In this case, Microsoft is very, very late to the game and isn't
> > offering a competing product -- it's trying to accommodate the
> > competition in an effort to save itself. We haven't seen that
> > before, and it will be interesting to note how it all plays out.
> >
> >    In the meantime, I’m pretty sure there won’t be a mad rush of
> > devs and admins dying to run a highly limited Ubuntu user space on
> > Windows 10. They'll stick with their Macs and Mint boxes.  
> 
> It's not very compelling, honestly. And honestly Microsoft is seeing
> the trend moving away from them and to open source. I thought I
> recently read an article which was talking about how open source used
> to be the exception in the fortune 500 but that it is now the rule.
> It was said that some 78% of companies are now using open source
> software to run their vital services. 
> 
> Using Linux for their switched fabric and offering hosted Linux on
> Azure really just shows the shift at Microsoft. Now we see SQLServer
> ported to Linux. .Net dev tools open sourced. And now even on the
> desktop Microsoft wants to try to be competitive but I think the
> mind-share is already on Linux for open source software. This is
> nothing that would cause me to take a second look at Windows. If not
> for the Adobe suite I need, I'd not give this any thought at all. 
> 

It is not that world now moves to open source. M$ just sees cake and
wants piece of that cake, that's all...

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#364808

On 2016-08-08, Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 09:35:07 -0700
> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-08, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> > Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> >  
>> >> On 2016-08-08, Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:  
>> >>> On 08/08/2016 10:30, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:  
>> >>>> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
>> >>>> royalties:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?  
>> >>>
>> >>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging
>> >>> technologies but   
>> >                                         =============================
>> >
>> > LOL That is exactly what the Microsoft Linux Layer is not.
>> >  
>> >>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's
>> >>> with command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few
>> >>> who get their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer
>> >>> printing their favourite ASCII art porn.  
>> >
>> > The usual non sequitur from Siwwy Wabbit.
>> >  
>> >> You can do both.     
>> >
>> > Of course.
>> >
>> >    http://www.infoworld.com/article/3050845/microsoft-windows/microsoft-embraces-linux-way-too-late.html
>> >
>> >    In this case, Microsoft is very, very late to the game and isn't
>> > offering a competing product -- it's trying to accommodate the
>> > competition in an effort to save itself. We haven't seen that
>> > before, and it will be interesting to note how it all plays out.
>> >
>> >    In the meantime, I’m pretty sure there won’t be a mad rush of
>> > devs and admins dying to run a highly limited Ubuntu user space on
>> > Windows 10. They'll stick with their Macs and Mint boxes.  
>> 
>> It's not very compelling, honestly. And honestly Microsoft is seeing
>> the trend moving away from them and to open source. I thought I
>> recently read an article which was talking about how open source used
>> to be the exception in the fortune 500 but that it is now the rule.
>> It was said that some 78% of companies are now using open source
>> software to run their vital services. 
>> 
>> Using Linux for their switched fabric and offering hosted Linux on
>> Azure really just shows the shift at Microsoft. Now we see SQLServer
>> ported to Linux. .Net dev tools open sourced. And now even on the
>> desktop Microsoft wants to try to be competitive but I think the
>> mind-share is already on Linux for open source software. This is
>> nothing that would cause me to take a second look at Windows. If not
>> for the Adobe suite I need, I'd not give this any thought at all. 
>> 
>
> It is not that world now moves to open source. M$ just sees cake and
> wants piece of that cake, that's all...

While I agree with that statement I'd have to extend it. Yes, they see
money to be made and they want in. I get that. I guess what I am saying
is that there isn't a heck of a lot of choice at this point. Once the
adoption of open source took hold, what choice do they have? 

As an example, let's say Azure didn't offer Linux instances. Would Azure
ever overtake AWS? And just look at the cloud, Docker, open stack, juju,
open shift, Ansible, etc etc that's going on. If all they did was offer
Windows in the cloud via Azure, would that have any hope at all of
giving them a lead in cloud? I don't think so. 

So yes, they want the slice. But ideally they want the pie and just came
to terms that the pie isn't up for the taking. A slice of the pie maybe
is and that's what they have realized. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#364797

Marek Novotny wrote:

> On 2016-08-08, Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>> On 08/08/2016 10:30, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>
>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?
>>
>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging technologies but 
>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's with 
>> command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few who get 
>> their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer printing their 
>> favourite ASCII art porn.

Heh, heh. I find that funny coming a windoze users pwned by the dead 
hand of M$.

> You can do both.   

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#364798

On 08/08/2016 17:09, William Poaster wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-08, Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>> On 08/08/2016 10:30, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?
>>>
>>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging technologies but
>>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's with
>>> command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few who get
>>> their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer printing their
>>> favourite ASCII art porn.
>
> Heh, heh. I find that funny coming a windoze users pwned by the dead
> hand of M$.

Idiot, I admin Linux servers doing real work. Get back to flipping 
burgers, or writing software for Windows on Windows which is what most 
of you COLA lunatics do every day.

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#364801

On 2016-08-08, William Poaster <wp@dev.null> wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-08, Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:
>>> On 08/08/2016 10:30, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>>>
>>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?
>>>
>>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging technologies but 
>>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's with 
>>> command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few who get 
>>> their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer printing their 
>>> favourite ASCII art porn.
>
> Heh, heh. I find that funny coming a windoze users pwned by the dead 
> hand of M$.

Hey now be fair... Gamers use Windows.... And if you need Adobe's suite
and don't want to buy 4 year old Macs with dated hardware for a premium
you might look at Windows, assuming it stops crashing. I guess if I
wanted a honeypot for a project I would have to use Windows... It has
some uses...

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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#364803

Marek Novotny wrote:

> William Poaster wrote:
>>
>>> Desk Retard wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?
>>>>
>>>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging technologies but 
>>>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's with 
>>>> command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few who get 
>>>> their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer printing their 
>>>> favourite ASCII art porn.

Kook.

>> Heh, heh. I find that funny coming a windoze users pwned by the dead 
>> hand of M$.
>
>Hey now be fair... Gamers use Windows.... And if you need Adobe's suite
>and don't want to buy 4 year old Macs with dated hardware for a premium
>you might look at Windows, assuming it stops crashing. I guess if I
>wanted a honeypot for a project I would have to use Windows... It has
>some uses...

Unlike what liars like -highhorse say, we understand why many
reasonable, informed people use Windows.

The Desk Retard marches in lock-step with the "too much choice" troll
party-line.  None of the Linux-haters will step out of line.

-- 
"It hadn't dawned on me just how much of a bad thing project forking
is."  -  Desk Retard

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#364865

On Monday, August 8, 2016 at 12:57:21 PM UTC-4, chrisv wrote:

Oh, look at who's still upset at still being pwned...its chrisv!  


> Marek Novotny wrote:
> >
> >Hey now be fair... Gamers use Windows.... And if you need Adobe's suite
> >and don't want to buy 4 year old Macs with dated hardware for a premium
> >you might look at Windows, assuming it stops crashing. I guess if I
> >wanted a honeypot for a project I would have to use Windows... It has
> >some uses...
> 
> Unlike what liars like -highhorse say, we understand why many
> reasonable, informed people use Windows.

From the archives:

"And what this also means is that the allegations and insinuations 
that 98% of the world are ignorant boobs is way, way off base, 
particularly when in one breath a fanboy will brag about how smart 
Enterprise IT Departments are to deploy Linux servers ... while 
the very same IT group at the same company then deploys Windows 
PC desktops to 100% of their employees ... 

Golly, did all of these IT folk suddenly all become 'stupid' and 
'ignorant'?  Or are they still informed as to the pros/cons of 
each use case and have selected the right tool for each job?   
For those too emotionally biased to see it, the answer was 'B'".   


Which also hearkens another old query, from 18 March 2015:

chrisv> Maybe half of the advocates in here are "pro" Linux users or 
chrisv> developers.  Many of us, like myself, are not. 
>
-hh> So if you're not a developer, just what do _you_ do, chrisv? 


Oh right:  just another pwned drudge who has claimed that they're "forced" to use 
Windows, because he hasn't been reasonably informed yet that if it is the principle 
of not using MS that he could have gotten a job as a 'fscking' WalMart greeter.  /S


-hh

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#364927 — Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC.

Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> 
> To a person, all who disparage Windows do so because
> they can't configure it properly.

Correction, not configure it properly, ...configure it ..Period.


Who can understand 'configure it' if the win 10 was forced upon them????


Bill Gates needs to go back to selling Windows in a box, in a store...like he used to.


Stay away from my Win95...

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#364938 — Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC.

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> >
> > To a person, all who disparage Windows do so because
> > they can't configure it properly.
> 
> Correction, not configure it properly, ...configure it ..Period.
> 
> Who can understand 'configure it' if the win 10 was forced upon them????
> 
> Bill Gates needs to go back to selling Windows in a box, in a store...like he used to.
> 
> Stay away from my Win95...


Or...
how do you convince the Navy
to upgrade from winxp to win10?..

plus the banks ATM machines, the DWP, Metro, Post Office, etc, to
configure it properly?

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#364988 — Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC.

The Starmaker wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> The Starmaker wrote:
>
> how do you convince the Navy
> to upgrade from winxp to win10?..

I think the Navy is already pushing Win10.

> plus the banks ATM machines, the DWP, Metro, Post Office, etc, to
> configure it properly?

-- 
"Life, loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it."
		-- Marvin, "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"

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#365003 — Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC.

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
> 
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > how do you convince the Navy
> > to upgrade from winxp to win10?..
> 
> I think the Navy is already pushing Win10.
> 
> > plus the banks ATM machines, the DWP, Metro, Post Office, etc, to
> > configure it properly?
> 
> --
> "Life, loathe it or ignore it, you can't like it."
>                 -- Marvin, "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"


 the Navy's Space and Naval Warfare Systems Command (SPAWAR) closed a
$9.1 million contract with Microsoft that guarantees continued custom
support for security updates on the 100,000 workstations still using
Windowx XP, Office 2003, Exchange 2003, and Windows Server 2003.

The full contract could extend to 2017, and be worth up to $30.8 million




I want my xp update.

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#364947 — Re: My copy Win10 runs smoothly, no problems, on my i7-5775c PC.

On 8/9/2016 4:22 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> To a person, all who disparage Windows do so because
> they can't configure it properly.

Rolf you are still an idiot. Who want's Bill watching everything you do 
and then charging you for every little thing. Windoze is slightly less 
idiotic than Linux, but they make up for it with pure greed and zero 
sense of responsibility to human civilization.

A decent OS doesn't exist because I haven't written it yet.

The problem with the digital world is all these things have been written 
by idiots just like you who can't find their own ass even when allowed 
to use both hands.

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#364879

On 08/08/2016 17:57, chrisv wrote:
> Marek Novotny wrote:
>
>> William Poaster wrote:
>>>
>>>> Desk Retard wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging technologies but
>>>>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's with
>>>>> command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few who get
>>>>> their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer printing their
>>>>> favourite ASCII art porn.
>
> Kook.
>
>>> Heh, heh. I find that funny coming a windoze users pwned by the dead
>>> hand of M$.
>>
>> Hey now be fair... Gamers use Windows.... And if you need Adobe's suite
>> and don't want to buy 4 year old Macs with dated hardware for a premium
>> you might look at Windows, assuming it stops crashing. I guess if I
>> wanted a honeypot for a project I would have to use Windows... It has
>> some uses...
>
> Unlike what liars like -highhorse say, we understand why many
> reasonable, informed people use Windows.
>
> The Desk Retard marches in lock-step with the "too much choice" troll
> party-line.  None of the Linux-haters will step out of line.
>

I admin several Linux servers you idiot.

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#364817

Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>
> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?
>

certainly not someone like you. 

who cares what you think anyway. you are the type who is more interested in wiping pee-pees and giggling to mad magazine. 

technology is not your cup of tea is it little beaver?

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#364813

On 8/7/2016 4:47 PM, Marek Novotny wrote:


> I have a Dell 9550 which runs Windows, for now, but has crashed so often


Screenshots of your Event Logs or they didn't happen.

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