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Re: Microsoft Linux Layer

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On 2016-08-08, Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 09:35:07 -0700
> Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2016-08-08, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:
>> > Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> >  
>> >> On 2016-08-08, Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> wrote:  
>> >>> On 08/08/2016 10:30, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:  
>> >>>> Marek Novotny wrote this copyrighted missive and expects
>> >>>> royalties:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Yawn, who cares about the "Microsoft Linux Layer"?  
>> >>>
>> >>> Because some of us are interested in new and emerging
>> >>> technologies but   
>> >                                         =============================
>> >
>> > LOL That is exactly what the Microsoft Linux Layer is not.
>> >  
>> >>> we get that a lot of the Linux users like to live in the 80's
>> >>> with command lines and simple displays. I'd guess there is a few
>> >>> who get their thrills by leaning into a dot matrix printer
>> >>> printing their favourite ASCII art porn.  
>> >
>> > The usual non sequitur from Siwwy Wabbit.
>> >  
>> >> You can do both.     
>> >
>> > Of course.
>> >
>> >    http://www.infoworld.com/article/3050845/microsoft-windows/microsoft-embraces-linux-way-too-late.html
>> >
>> >    In this case, Microsoft is very, very late to the game and isn't
>> > offering a competing product -- it's trying to accommodate the
>> > competition in an effort to save itself. We haven't seen that
>> > before, and it will be interesting to note how it all plays out.
>> >
>> >    In the meantime, I’m pretty sure there won’t be a mad rush of
>> > devs and admins dying to run a highly limited Ubuntu user space on
>> > Windows 10. They'll stick with their Macs and Mint boxes.  
>> 
>> It's not very compelling, honestly. And honestly Microsoft is seeing
>> the trend moving away from them and to open source. I thought I
>> recently read an article which was talking about how open source used
>> to be the exception in the fortune 500 but that it is now the rule.
>> It was said that some 78% of companies are now using open source
>> software to run their vital services. 
>> 
>> Using Linux for their switched fabric and offering hosted Linux on
>> Azure really just shows the shift at Microsoft. Now we see SQLServer
>> ported to Linux. .Net dev tools open sourced. And now even on the
>> desktop Microsoft wants to try to be competitive but I think the
>> mind-share is already on Linux for open source software. This is
>> nothing that would cause me to take a second look at Windows. If not
>> for the Adobe suite I need, I'd not give this any thought at all. 
>> 
>
> It is not that world now moves to open source. M$ just sees cake and
> wants piece of that cake, that's all...

While I agree with that statement I'd have to extend it. Yes, they see
money to be made and they want in. I get that. I guess what I am saying
is that there isn't a heck of a lot of choice at this point. Once the
adoption of open source took hold, what choice do they have? 

As an example, let's say Azure didn't offer Linux instances. Would Azure
ever overtake AWS? And just look at the cloud, Docker, open stack, juju,
open shift, Ansible, etc etc that's going on. If all they did was offer
Windows in the cloud via Azure, would that have any hope at all of
giving them a lead in cloud? I don't think so. 

So yes, they want the slice. But ideally they want the pie and just came
to terms that the pie isn't up for the taking. A slice of the pie maybe
is and that's what they have realized. 

-- 
Marek Novotny
https://github.com/marek-novotny

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  Re: Microsoft Linux Layer flatfish+++ <flatfish4real@gmail.com> - 2016-08-07 19:49 -0400
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  Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-08 07:52 +0200
    Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-08-08 08:47 -0700
  Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-08-08 05:30 -0400
    Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-08-08 16:14 +0100
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        Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-08-08 12:02 -0400
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            Re: Microsoft Linux Layer Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-08-08 19:00 +0200
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