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| Started by | Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> |
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| First post | 2016-05-27 10:58 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-05-31 16:55 +1000 |
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For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-27 10:58 +0000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 04:24 -0700
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2016-05-27 12:40 +0100
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Incubus <incubus9536612@gmail.com> - 2016-05-27 05:10 -0700
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-27 22:08 +0000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-05-27 17:15 -0600
Linux fonts vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-28 13:02 +0000
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-28 16:25 +0000
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-28 12:49 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-28 13:22 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-31 07:13 -0500
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 05:11 +0000
Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 01:03 -0700
Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 10:19 +0000
I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 05:53 -0700
Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 21:34 +0000
Re: Mr. O.W.L's terminal can mix and match random FontGlyphs. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 22:43 +0000
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 00:37 +0000
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-29 18:27 -0700
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 02:13 +0000
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-29 21:23 -0700
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-30 08:28 -0400
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2016-05-30 09:19 -0700
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 16:26 +0000
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-30 11:00 -0700
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 19:04 +0000
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-30 12:29 -0700
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-30 15:06 +0000
Re: Linux PC Distros don't have anything that Windows 10 lacks. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 16:10 +0000
Re: I've been talking about "Mixing and Matching fonts". chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-05-31 07:02 -0500
Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 11:09 +0000
Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 05:44 -0700
Re: Octavian can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 21:40 +0000
Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2016-05-29 16:20 +0000
Scott Doty can't show a screenshot, I can: Jeff-Relf.Me/X.PNG Jeff-Relf.Me <@.> - 2016-05-29 10:27 -0700
Re: Jeff Ralf's facade/lies have been exposed. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-29 22:29 +0000
Re: "Jeff-Relf.Me/X.ZIP" is a Visual C++ console, really. "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 01:03 +0000
Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-05-30 14:56 +0000
Re: Scott Doty's facade/lies have been exposed. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-05-30 16:38 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 17:42 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 21:52 +0000
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 17:56 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 22:06 +0000
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 18:28 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 22:33 +0000
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 18:56 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? "Octavian W. Lagrange" <olagrang@perch.invalid> - 2016-05-30 23:26 +0000
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-01 10:08 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-05-30 16:55 -0700
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-05-31 05:28 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-05-31 10:53 +0100
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-01 10:08 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-06-01 07:59 -0700
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-06-01 11:15 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-06-01 12:40 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-06-01 10:31 -0700
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-06-01 20:56 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-06-01 18:12 -0700
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-06-01 18:23 -0700
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-06-02 05:49 -0400
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-02 09:05 -0500
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-06-02 11:22 -0500
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 16:39 -0500
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 16:37 -0500
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-06-08 00:51 +0200
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-06-07 16:07 -0700
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-06-07 19:39 -0500
Re: What do you know about DejaVu Sans Mono ? Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-06-08 10:47 +0200
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 17:41 -0400
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-27 14:16 +0200
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-27 11:18 -0400
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-27 22:11 +0000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II GreyCloud <Cumulus@mist.com> - 2016-05-27 17:16 -0600
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-27 19:24 -0400
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II 7 <7@enemygadgets.com> - 2016-05-28 14:24 +0000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-28 14:57 +0000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-05-30 12:02 +1000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-30 04:45 +0000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-05-30 10:30 +0200
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-30 05:01 +0000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-05-30 12:47 -0400
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-05-31 16:53 +1000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2016-05-30 08:27 -0400
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> - 2016-05-30 13:38 +0000
Re: For the Record: Ncurses is a Graphics Library II Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> - 2016-05-31 16:55 +1000
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| From | DFS <nospam@dfs.com> |
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| Date | 2016-05-30 12:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nihqra$cgv$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #357743 |
On 5/30/2016 1:01 AM, the nincompoop Fabian Russell wrote:
> Ncurses can utilize standard box-drawing characters to create very
> slick content,
We eagerly await such 'slick content' in a useful app created 100% by you.
Don't disappoint this time; the content you usually create induces
vomiting all over the floor.
Speaking of vomit, write some code to turn a long string into X lines of
N characters or less - but you can't break in the middle of a word, and
each new line must also begin with the same number of >'s.
Input: one line of length 443, with >>> at the beginning
text = ">>> "I think Arch was the best choice this year as it respects
user's freedom and keeps its repositories free from any proprietary or
non-free packages. Arch-GNU/Linux was our first choice because it
discourages practices like DRM or Tiviozation. I think other
distributions should follow Arch's principles. If you can't respect
freedom, go release your sex-tapes or commit suicide, please leave the
morbid GNU/Linux world alone," added Linus."
Output: seven lines of length <=70, each with >>> at the beginning
>>> "I think Arch was the best choice this year as it respects user's
>>> freedom and keeps its repositories free from any proprietary or
>>> non-free packages. Arch-GNU/Linux was our first choice because it
>>> discourages practices like DRM or Tiviozation. I think other
>>> distributions should follow Arch's principles. If you can't
>>> respect freedom, go release your sex-tapes or commit suicide,
>>> please leave the morbid GNU/Linux world alone," added Linus.
heh! Break out the perl - write 800 lines and show us that feeble
Fabian Russell coding "prowess"! LMAO!
(the DFS solution you could NEVER best)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
words = str(text).split()
quoter = words[0] + ' '
s=1
maxL=70
for e in range(1,len(words)-1):
if len(quoter) + len(' '.join(words[s:e+1])) >= maxL:
print quoter + ' '.join(words[s:e])
s=e
print quoter + ' '.join(words[s:len(words)])
------------------------------------------------------------------------
ps Do you suck at everything you do?
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| From | Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> |
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| Date | 2016-05-31 16:53 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <574D34DF.7030809@smartchat.net.au> |
| In reply to | #357743 |
On 30/05/16 15:01, Fabian Russell wrote: > On Mon, 30 May 2016 12:02:50 +1000, Ron House wrote: > >> >> Just try putting one single pixel in a place you don't >> get to select. Go on. Just try it. >> > > I already did. > > In character-cell graphics it is perfectly possible to control > single pixels, but special character sets would have to first be > custom created. Custom characters can be arranged to produce ANY > pixel pattern whatever. Until you run out of characters whose shape you can reprogram. > > Although quite feasible, it would involve a LOT of work. Exactly. And just as even FORTRAN can be used as an OO language, it involves a lot of work, so we don't call it OO. Likewise, the mere fact that you can futz around with ncurses and reprogrammable character shapes does not make it a graphics library. > Ncurses can utilize standard box-drawing characters to create > very slick content, but custom characters would allow much finer > control. > > So, unless you know exactly what you are talking about, kindly > shut your fat, stupid mouth. As someone who has taught CS for 30 years, programmed Apple II characters to draw shapes, used ncurses for 20 years, programmed GUI apps on modern equipment, I think I know what I am talking about. You clearly don't. Any language with sequences, loops and conditionals can program any algorithm. That doesn't make them all OO, or all databases, or all graphics libraries, even though in theory all of them can do all of it because all Turing complete languages can program all algorithms - in theory. You make an entertaining point, and I told you the limits of it. But now you have just proved yourself to be a rude arrogant jerk. Usenet is a discussion forum, where people who actually don't know what they are talking about can learn new things without being insulted. So if you can't live up to that standard, plonk to you, I'd rather talk to the people who want to learn what they don't know and teach what they do. -- Ron House Building Peace: http://peacelegacy.org Australian Birds: http://wingedhearts.org Principle of Goodness academic site: http://principleofgoodness.net
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| From | Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> |
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| Date | 2016-05-30 08:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1sstdurlpeipm$.dlg@tattoovampire.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #357737 |
Ron House wrote: > I like ncurses (for doing what it's good at) but this is a bit silly. > Every piece of that "graphic" was composed of carefully selected > character shapes. Just try putting one single pixel in a place you don't > get to select. Go on. Just try it. But that is the definition of > "graphics" - you can set arbitrary pixels. What about vector graphics? Not a pixel to be seen. :-D
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| From | Fabian Russell <fb@zen.info> |
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| Date | 2016-05-30 13:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <nihfo301mr@news3.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #357754 |
On Mon, 30 May 2016 08:27:10 -0400, Tattoo Vampire wrote: > > What about vector graphics? Not a pixel to be seen. :-D > Vector graphics is only a mathematical description. This description has to be rasterized on a conventional graphics device in order to be realized. Vector graphics is also no good for photography or other photo-realistic imagery. (Unless the VG describes every pixel, but this would not be practical.)
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| From | Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> |
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| Date | 2016-05-31 16:55 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <574D3554.1080807@smartchat.net.au> |
| In reply to | #357754 |
On 30/05/16 22:27, Tattoo Vampire wrote: > Ron House wrote: > >> I like ncurses (for doing what it's good at) but this is a bit silly. >> Every piece of that "graphic" was composed of carefully selected >> character shapes. Just try putting one single pixel in a place you don't >> get to select. Go on. Just try it. But that is the definition of >> "graphics" - you can set arbitrary pixels. > > What about vector graphics? Not a pixel to be seen. :-D Ha ha. You know perfectly well we are talking about displays on pixelated screens, not the underlying objects. Lucky for you you put that smiley there. ;-) -- Ron House Building Peace: http://peacelegacy.org Australian Birds: http://wingedhearts.org Principle of Goodness academic site: http://principleofgoodness.net
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