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OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016

Started bySlimer <.m@nsn.s>
First post2015-11-03 10:09 -0500
Last post2015-11-06 07:34 -0600
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  OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-03 10:09 -0500
    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> - 2015-11-03 10:30 -0500
      Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-03 10:40 -0500
        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-03 13:04 -0600
          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-03 14:45 -0500
            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> - 2015-11-03 19:25 -0500
              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 14:23 -0600
                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 15:39 -0500
          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-03 16:09 -0700
            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> - 2015-11-03 19:30 -0500
              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-03 19:35 -0500
            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-03 19:20 -0700
          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-04 11:56 -0600
            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-11-04 19:08 +0100
              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-05 07:29 -0600
                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-05 08:44 -0500
            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 14:49 -0500
              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 15:00 -0500
                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 17:25 -0500
              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 14:24 -0600
              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Tattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer> - 2015-11-05 12:31 +0000
                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-11-05 07:51 -0500
                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 09:59 -0500
                  Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-05 10:02 -0500
                    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 10:10 -0500
                    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-05 13:34 -0700
                  Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-05 13:33 -0700
        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-03 16:09 -0700
          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-03 18:41 -0500
            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-03 19:21 -0700
              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 09:33 -0500
                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-04 09:48 -0500
                  Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-04 10:48 -0500
        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> - 2015-11-03 19:01 -0500
      Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-03 13:03 -0600
        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> - 2015-11-03 19:03 -0500
          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 14:23 -0600
    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 17:24 -0800
      Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2015-11-03 17:41 -0800
        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-03 21:05 -0500
        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-04 23:04 +0000
          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-04 23:15 +0000
            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-04 19:46 -0600
          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-04 18:27 -0500
      Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-03 21:04 -0500
    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-05 15:28 +0000
      Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-05 10:40 -0500
        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-06 12:27 +0000
          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-06 13:33 +0100
            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-06 07:52 -0500
              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-06 14:31 +0100
                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-06 08:33 -0500
                  Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-06 14:39 +0100
                    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-11-06 07:41 -0600
                      Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-11-07 09:21 +0000
                        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-07 10:18 -0500
                          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2015-11-07 12:44 -0700
                            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-07 19:49 +0000
                        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-11-09 07:22 -0600
                          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 13:32 +0000
                    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-06 08:50 -0500
                    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-06 13:53 +0000
                      Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-06 09:04 -0500
                      Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-06 07:26 -0800
                        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-09 12:51 +0000
                          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 06:47 -0800
                            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-10 09:29 +0000
                              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:02 -0800
                                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-12 11:12 +0000
                                  Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 11:09 -0700
                              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-10 09:29 -0700
                                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-10 08:38 -0800
                                  Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-12 11:18 +0000
                                    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-12 11:10 -0700
                          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-09 09:16 -0700
                            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-11-09 09:10 -0800
                    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-06 12:50 -0700
                    Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-11-06 23:06 +0000
                      Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-06 18:12 -0500
                        Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-07 00:27 +0100
                          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-06 18:30 -0500
                            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-11-07 00:35 +0100
                              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Big Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com> - 2015-11-06 18:41 -0500
                                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-06 18:58 -0500
                            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-11-06 19:48 -0700
                          Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-06 18:53 -0500
                Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-11-06 09:49 -0600
            Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-11-06 13:28 +0000
              Re: OS/2 Warp set to return in 2016 Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-11-06 07:34 -0600

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#331039

FromTattoo Vampire <sitting@this.computer>
Date2015-11-05 12:31 +0000
Message-ID<n1fi7c$b38$1@tattoovampire.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#330878
Slimer wrote:

> Linux

I thought I had plonked your stupid ass.

Fuck off.

PLONK

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#331045

FromChris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Date2015-11-05 07:51 -0500
Message-ID<n1fj9i$fg9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#331039
Tattoo Vampire wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:

> Slimer wrote:
>
>> Linux
>
> I thought I had plonked your stupid ass.
>
> Fuck off.

 +1 

> PLONK

 +1 

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#331061

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-05 09:59 -0500
Message-ID<n1fqnu$dec$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#331039
On 2015-11-05 7:31 AM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
> Slimer wrote:
> 
>> Linux
> 
> I thought I had plonked your stupid ass.
> 
> Fuck off.
> 
> PLONK

Meanwhile, I never changed the e-mail address associated with the name I
post under. You really need to learn HOW to filter people.

-- 
Slimer

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#331062

FromBig Fish in a Small Crotch <bigfishinasmallcrotch@myself.com>
Date2015-11-05 10:02 -0500
Message-ID<7rwtj1dc9sg8.7gjpss8k0opt$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#331061
On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 09:59:19 -0500, Slimer wrote:

> On 2015-11-05 7:31 AM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>> Slimer wrote:
>> 
>>> Linux
>> 
>> I thought I had plonked your stupid ass.
>> 
>> Fuck off.
>> 
>> PLONK
> 
> Meanwhile, I never changed the e-mail address associated with the name I
> post under. You really need to learn HOW to filter people.

These Linux losers don't have filters. And even if they did, they sure
spend a significant amount of time talking about them. In fact it's the
topic of choice for Wideload Porkster. He rarely posts about anything else
unless it's a +1 for a topic he knows nothing about.

-- 
You Ain't The Biggest Fish In The Crotch.

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#331064

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-05 10:10 -0500
Message-ID<n1frcj$dec$4@dont-email.me>
In reply to#331062
On 2015-11-05 10:02 AM, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 09:59:19 -0500, Slimer wrote:
> 
>> On 2015-11-05 7:31 AM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Linux
>>>
>>> I thought I had plonked your stupid ass.
>>>
>>> Fuck off.
>>>
>>> PLONK
>>
>> Meanwhile, I never changed the e-mail address associated with the name I
>> post under. You really need to learn HOW to filter people.
> 
> These Linux losers don't have filters. And even if they did, they sure
> spend a significant amount of time talking about them. In fact it's the
> topic of choice for Wideload Porkster. He rarely posts about anything else
> unless it's a +1 for a topic he knows nothing about.

And the fat fuck calls me a troll even though he is wholly unable to
provide posts with anything more than a high-five to the fellow idiots
populating this group like Peter the Klöwn and cumstainv. I've just
recently had to Peter the Klöwn and his midget henchman Wideload about
the inconsistency in openSUSE. They claim that the operating system
plays MP3s out of the box whereas even the latest documentation for it
says that it doesn't. If it does, it has finally caught up to Windows ME
which provided the functionality in the year 1999. If it doesn't, it is
still lacking but at least enforces the laws of the United States where
most of its users will likely live. So it is either grossly incapable or
horribly inconsistent just like I have always claimed.

-- 
Slimer

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#331121

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-05 13:34 -0700
Message-ID<Oqmdndaqp47IIKbLnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#331062
On 11/05/15 08:02, Big Fish in a Small Crotch wrote:
> On Thu, 5 Nov 2015 09:59:19 -0500, Slimer wrote:
>
>> On 2015-11-05 7:31 AM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>>> Slimer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Linux
>>>
>>> I thought I had plonked your stupid ass.
>>>
>>> Fuck off.
>>>
>>> PLONK
>>
>> Meanwhile, I never changed the e-mail address associated with the name I
>> post under. You really need to learn HOW to filter people.
>
> These Linux losers don't have filters. And even if they did, they sure
> spend a significant amount of time talking about them. In fact it's the
> topic of choice for Wideload Porkster. He rarely posts about anything else
> unless it's a +1 for a topic he knows nothing about.
>
Does ol' Dumb willie even know that the world has people in it?
He sure talks to himself a lot.


-- 
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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#331120

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-05 13:33 -0700
Message-ID<Oqmdndeqp468IKbLnZ2dnUU7-SednZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#331061
On 11/05/15 07:59, Slimer wrote:
> On 2015-11-05 7:31 AM, Tattoo Vampire wrote:
>> Slimer wrote:
>>
>>> Linux
>>
>> I thought I had plonked your stupid ass.
>>
>> Fuck off.
>>
>> PLONK
>
> Meanwhile, I never changed the e-mail address associated with the name I
> post under. You really need to learn HOW to filter people.
>
These loons certainly are a screwy bunch.

-- 
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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#330756

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-03 16:09 -0700
Message-ID<ObCdnZeVA6Yzo6TLnZ2dnUU7-YPus__v@bresnan.com>
In reply to#330670
On 11/03/15 08:40, Slimer wrote:
> On 2015-11-03 10:30 AM, Bob Loblaw wrote:
>> On 2015-11-03 15:09:44 +0000, Slimer said:
>>
>>> PC users might finally have a decent alternative to Windows!
>>
>> OS X has been the supperior alternative to Windows since at least OS X 10.3
>>
>>
>>>
>>> <http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/11/03/1337254/the-return-of-os2-warp-set-for-2016?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29>
>>>
>>>
>>> We all known the ill-fated history of IBM's OS/2 Warp, while some others
>>> may not know about the first OS/2-OEM distribution called eComStation.
>>> Now a new company called Arca Noae, not happy with the results of this
>>> last distribution, has signed an agreement with IBM to create a new OS/2
>>> version. They announced a new OS, codenamed "Blue Lion," at Warpstock
>>> 2015 this last October; this will be based on OS/2 Warp 4.52 and the SMP
>>> kernel. The OS/2 community has taken this news with positivism and the
>>> OS2World community is now requesting everybody that has developed for
>>> OS/2 on the past to open source their source code to collaborate.
>>
>> For real?  Wow.  The blood actually drained from my head and I had
>> visions of hell.  I mean, it's dead Jim.
>>
>> (nitpick: "taken this news with positivism" should be written "taken
>> this news positively" otherwise you sound like a community college
>> dropout).
>
> OS/2 still provides more hope for a decent alternative to Windows than
> Linux does. If IBM gets involved and actively develops for it, it might
> turn into something decent. It development is left to the same kind of
> people responsible for what we see in Linux, it's doomed.
>
>
They are going to have to keep the prices very competitive to bring back 
in at this stage.


-- 
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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#330762

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-03 18:41 -0500
Message-ID<n1bgj8$7u2$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330756
On 2015-11-03 6:09 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 11/03/15 08:40, Slimer wrote:
>> On 2015-11-03 10:30 AM, Bob Loblaw wrote:
>>> On 2015-11-03 15:09:44 +0000, Slimer said:
>>>
>>>> PC users might finally have a decent alternative to Windows!
>>>
>>> OS X has been the supperior alternative to Windows since at least OS
>>> X 10.3
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> <http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/11/03/1337254/the-return-of-os2-warp-set-for-2016?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We all known the ill-fated history of IBM's OS/2 Warp, while some
>>>> others
>>>> may not know about the first OS/2-OEM distribution called eComStation.
>>>> Now a new company called Arca Noae, not happy with the results of this
>>>> last distribution, has signed an agreement with IBM to create a new
>>>> OS/2
>>>> version. They announced a new OS, codenamed "Blue Lion," at Warpstock
>>>> 2015 this last October; this will be based on OS/2 Warp 4.52 and the
>>>> SMP
>>>> kernel. The OS/2 community has taken this news with positivism and the
>>>> OS2World community is now requesting everybody that has developed for
>>>> OS/2 on the past to open source their source code to collaborate.
>>>
>>> For real?  Wow.  The blood actually drained from my head and I had
>>> visions of hell.  I mean, it's dead Jim.
>>>
>>> (nitpick: "taken this news with positivism" should be written "taken
>>> this news positively" otherwise you sound like a community college
>>> dropout).
>>
>> OS/2 still provides more hope for a decent alternative to Windows than
>> Linux does. If IBM gets involved and actively develops for it, it might
>> turn into something decent. It development is left to the same kind of
>> people responsible for what we see in Linux, it's doomed.
>>
>>
> They are going to have to keep the prices very competitive to bring back
> in at this stage.

I doubt that they would. If anything, IBM, delusional as always, would
think that it's worth $300 because they touched it.


-- 
Slimer

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#330780

FromGreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com>
Date2015-11-03 19:21 -0700
Message-ID<fYCdnQGy3epX9qTLnZ2dnUU7-ROdnZ2d@bresnan.com>
In reply to#330762
On 11/03/15 16:41, Slimer wrote:
> On 2015-11-03 6:09 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 11/03/15 08:40, Slimer wrote:
>>> On 2015-11-03 10:30 AM, Bob Loblaw wrote:
>>>> On 2015-11-03 15:09:44 +0000, Slimer said:
>>>>
>>>>> PC users might finally have a decent alternative to Windows!
>>>>
>>>> OS X has been the supperior alternative to Windows since at least OS
>>>> X 10.3
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/11/03/1337254/the-return-of-os2-warp-set-for-2016?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We all known the ill-fated history of IBM's OS/2 Warp, while some
>>>>> others
>>>>> may not know about the first OS/2-OEM distribution called eComStation.
>>>>> Now a new company called Arca Noae, not happy with the results of this
>>>>> last distribution, has signed an agreement with IBM to create a new
>>>>> OS/2
>>>>> version. They announced a new OS, codenamed "Blue Lion," at Warpstock
>>>>> 2015 this last October; this will be based on OS/2 Warp 4.52 and the
>>>>> SMP
>>>>> kernel. The OS/2 community has taken this news with positivism and the
>>>>> OS2World community is now requesting everybody that has developed for
>>>>> OS/2 on the past to open source their source code to collaborate.
>>>>
>>>> For real?  Wow.  The blood actually drained from my head and I had
>>>> visions of hell.  I mean, it's dead Jim.
>>>>
>>>> (nitpick: "taken this news with positivism" should be written "taken
>>>> this news positively" otherwise you sound like a community college
>>>> dropout).
>>>
>>> OS/2 still provides more hope for a decent alternative to Windows than
>>> Linux does. If IBM gets involved and actively develops for it, it might
>>> turn into something decent. It development is left to the same kind of
>>> people responsible for what we see in Linux, it's doomed.
>>>
>>>
>> They are going to have to keep the prices very competitive to bring back
>> in at this stage.
>
> I doubt that they would. If anything, IBM, delusional as always, would
> think that it's worth $300 because they touched it.
>
>
That was the real problem back then.  Plus they wanted too much for 
their developer tools.


-- 
When told the reason for daylight savings time the Old
Indian said, "Only the government would believe that you
could cut a foot off the top of a blanket, sew it to the
bottom, and have a longer blanket."

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#330816

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-04 09:33 -0500
Message-ID<n1d4rp$411$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330780
On 2015-11-03 9:21 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
> On 11/03/15 16:41, Slimer wrote:
>> On 2015-11-03 6:09 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> On 11/03/15 08:40, Slimer wrote:
>>>> On 2015-11-03 10:30 AM, Bob Loblaw wrote:
>>>>> On 2015-11-03 15:09:44 +0000, Slimer said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> PC users might finally have a decent alternative to Windows!
>>>>>
>>>>> OS X has been the supperior alternative to Windows since at least OS
>>>>> X 10.3
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/11/03/1337254/the-return-of-os2-warp-set-for-2016?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We all known the ill-fated history of IBM's OS/2 Warp, while some
>>>>>> others
>>>>>> may not know about the first OS/2-OEM distribution called
>>>>>> eComStation.
>>>>>> Now a new company called Arca Noae, not happy with the results of
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> last distribution, has signed an agreement with IBM to create a new
>>>>>> OS/2
>>>>>> version. They announced a new OS, codenamed "Blue Lion," at Warpstock
>>>>>> 2015 this last October; this will be based on OS/2 Warp 4.52 and the
>>>>>> SMP
>>>>>> kernel. The OS/2 community has taken this news with positivism and
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> OS2World community is now requesting everybody that has developed for
>>>>>> OS/2 on the past to open source their source code to collaborate.
>>>>>
>>>>> For real?  Wow.  The blood actually drained from my head and I had
>>>>> visions of hell.  I mean, it's dead Jim.
>>>>>
>>>>> (nitpick: "taken this news with positivism" should be written "taken
>>>>> this news positively" otherwise you sound like a community college
>>>>> dropout).
>>>>
>>>> OS/2 still provides more hope for a decent alternative to Windows than
>>>> Linux does. If IBM gets involved and actively develops for it, it might
>>>> turn into something decent. It development is left to the same kind of
>>>> people responsible for what we see in Linux, it's doomed.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> They are going to have to keep the prices very competitive to bring back
>>> in at this stage.
>>
>> I doubt that they would. If anything, IBM, delusional as always, would
>> think that it's worth $300 because they touched it.
>>
>>
> That was the real problem back then.  Plus they wanted too much for
> their developer tools.

I remember that out of desperate, at some point in 1994 or 1995, IBM
started selling OS/2 for $40. I didn't buy it but only because I was a
broke teenager but otherwise I think I would have bought it to keep it
as a souvenir from when IBM was still relevant.


-- 
Slimer

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#330824

From"Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
Date2015-11-04 09:48 -0500
Message-ID<n1d5oc$835$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330816
"Slimer" <.m@nsn.s> wrote in message news:n1d4rp$411$1@dont-email.me...
> On 2015-11-03 9:21 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>> On 11/03/15 16:41, Slimer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>> They are going to have to keep the prices very competitive to bring 
>>>> back
>>>> in at this stage.
>>>
>>> I doubt that they would. If anything, IBM, delusional as always, would
>>> think that it's worth $300 because they touched it.
>>>
>>>
>> That was the real problem back then.  Plus they wanted too much for
>> their developer tools.
>
> I remember that out of desperate, at some point in 1994 or 1995, IBM
> started selling OS/2 for $40. I didn't buy it but only because I was a
> broke teenager but otherwise I think I would have bought it to keep it
> as a souvenir from when IBM was still relevant.

I think that even if they gave OS/2 away for free it would at best be a very 
small niche player in the OS market. Nothing against OS/2, it's simply a 
matter of being too little, too late.

-- 
  "I'm sure people would gladly pay Apple three
   or four times the price of an Galaxy Note 4
   to avoid that couple of sheets of paper thick gap."

The Nobody moron - unable to do simple math
<4Z8Xv.381574$1s.59297@fx05.iad>

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#330844

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-04 10:48 -0500
Message-ID<n1d983$ldi$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330824
On 2015-11-04 9:48 AM, Ezekiel wrote:
> "Slimer" <.m@nsn.s> wrote in message news:n1d4rp$411$1@dont-email.me...
>> On 2015-11-03 9:21 PM, GreyCloud wrote:
>>> On 11/03/15 16:41, Slimer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>> They are going to have to keep the prices very competitive to bring 
>>>>> back
>>>>> in at this stage.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt that they would. If anything, IBM, delusional as always, would
>>>> think that it's worth $300 because they touched it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> That was the real problem back then.  Plus they wanted too much for
>>> their developer tools.
>>
>> I remember that out of desperate, at some point in 1994 or 1995, IBM
>> started selling OS/2 for $40. I didn't buy it but only because I was a
>> broke teenager but otherwise I think I would have bought it to keep it
>> as a souvenir from when IBM was still relevant.
> 
> I think that even if they gave OS/2 away for free it would at best be a very 
> small niche player in the OS market. Nothing against OS/2, it's simply a 
> matter of being too little, too late.

Given away for free in the 90s, it might have captured quite a bit of
the market. However, Windows 3.1 was technically free too (just about
everyone had an illegal copy of it lying around somewhere and builders
installed it without issue on every PC that they sold). At the end of
the day, between Windows 3.1 which had a shitload of applications
written for it and OS/2 which had virtually none or terrible ports of
those same Windows apps, I imagine that most people would have chosen
Windows 3.1 if given the choice.


-- 
Slimer

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#330764

FromBob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com>
Date2015-11-03 19:01 -0500
Message-ID<2015110319012374909-BL@LinuxProfessionalscom>
In reply to#330670
On 2015-11-03 15:40:16 +0000, Slimer said:

> On 2015-11-03 10:30 AM, Bob Loblaw wrote:
>> On 2015-11-03 15:09:44 +0000, Slimer said:
>> 
>>> PC users might finally have a decent alternative to Windows!
>> 
>> OS X has been the supperior alternative to Windows since at least OS X 10.3
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> <http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/11/03/1337254/the-return-of-os2-warp-set-for-2016?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> We all known the ill-fated history of IBM's OS/2 Warp, while some others
>>> may not know about the first OS/2-OEM distribution called eComStation.
>>> Now a new company called Arca Noae, not happy with the results of this
>>> last distribution, has signed an agreement with IBM to create a new OS/2
>>> version. They announced a new OS, codenamed "Blue Lion," at Warpstock
>>> 2015 this last October; this will be based on OS/2 Warp 4.52 and the SMP
>>> kernel. The OS/2 community has taken this news with positivism and the
>>> OS2World community is now requesting everybody that has developed for
>>> OS/2 on the past to open source their source code to collaborate.
>> 
>> For real?  Wow.  The blood actually drained from my head and I had
>> visions of hell.  I mean, it's dead Jim.
>> 
>> (nitpick: "taken this news with positivism" should be written "taken
>> this news positively" otherwise you sound like a community college
>> dropout).
> 
> OS/2 still provides more hope for a decent alternative to Windows than
> Linux does. If IBM gets involved and actively develops for it, it might
> turn into something decent. It development is left to the same kind of
> people responsible for what we see in Linux, it's doomed.

IBM don't care.  Really.  They were nice to license the source to AN 
but IBM will carry on with its other ventures and not pay any attention 
to OS/2.

This is not a bad thing.  This is not a good thing.  It just is.

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#330708

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2015-11-03 13:03 -0600
Message-ID<slrnn3i17d.nca.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#330667
On 2015-11-03, Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> wrote:
> On 2015-11-03 15:09:44 +0000, Slimer said:
>
>> PC users might finally have a decent alternative to Windows!
>
> OS X has been the supperior alternative to Windows since at least OS X 10.3

...unless you want to buy something interesting, then not so much.

[deletia]

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#330765

FromBob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com>
Date2015-11-03 19:03 -0500
Message-ID<2015110319030279440-BL@LinuxProfessionalscom>
In reply to#330708
On 2015-11-03 19:03:09 +0000, JEDIDIAH said:

> On 2015-11-03, Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> wrote:
>> On 2015-11-03 15:09:44 +0000, Slimer said:
>> 
>>> PC users might finally have a decent alternative to Windows!
>> 
>> OS X has been the supperior alternative to Windows since at least OS X 10.3
> 
> ...unless you want to buy something interesting, then not so much.


I don't want my OS to be interesting.  It should be boring,  invisible 
and out of the way.  Unlike the assinine desktops slapped over Linux.

(When I read about all the under the hood features of OS X v. Linux, 
it's actually daunting what Apple do... quietly).

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#330888

FromJEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet>
Date2015-11-04 14:23 -0600
Message-ID<slrnn3kqao.dek.jedi@nomad.mishnet>
In reply to#330765
On 2015-11-04, Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> wrote:
> On 2015-11-03 19:03:09 +0000, JEDIDIAH said:
>
>> On 2015-11-03, Bob Loblaw <BL@LinuxProfessionals.com> wrote:
>>> On 2015-11-03 15:09:44 +0000, Slimer said:
>>> 
>>>> PC users might finally have a decent alternative to Windows!
>>> 
>>> OS X has been the supperior alternative to Windows since at least OS X 10.3
>> 
>> ...unless you want to buy something interesting, then not so much.
>
>
> I don't want my OS to be interesting.  It should be boring,  invisible 

   Not the OS you moron, the ecosystem.

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#330772

FromTakuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-03 17:24 -0800
Message-ID<d738b518-7f2d-432d-b3eb-acb9c868ab02@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#330663
On Wednesday, November 4, 2015 at 12:09:45 AM UTC+9, Slimer wrote:
> PC users might finally have a decent alternative to Windows!
> 
> <http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/11/03/1337254/the-return-of-os2-warp-set-for-2016?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Slashdot%2Fslashdot+%28Slashdot%29>
> 
> We all known the ill-fated history of IBM's OS/2 Warp, while some others
> may not know about the first OS/2-OEM distribution called eComStation.
> Now a new company called Arca Noae, not happy with the results of this
> last distribution, has signed an agreement with IBM to create a new OS/2
> version. They announced a new OS, codenamed "Blue Lion," at Warpstock
> 2015 this last October; this will be based on OS/2 Warp 4.52 and the SMP
> kernel. The OS/2 community has taken this news with positivism and the
> OS2World community is now requesting everybody that has developed for
> OS/2 on the past to open source their source code to collaborate.
> 
> -- 
> Slimer

OMG! The forgotten alternative to Windoze, it used to supersede WindozeNT in the back days ....  AFAIK it's kernel had been somehow derived from the old FAST DOS written in assembly.  So no stealing another *nix or VMS and no buggy high level language programming?  Can they really make it??

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#330775

FromTakuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com>
Date2015-11-03 17:41 -0800
Message-ID<38f9d4aa-bc8e-4e86-ac56-97fb594a4b0c@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#330772
Don't forget, all these pseudo OSes were originally designed for single computer without any networking.  Linux and other *nixes have been designed with networking in mind from the day 0, hence it's internal part of their kernels with all the performance and stability benefits...  No winsocks, no bullshit....

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#330777

FromSlimer <.m@nsn.s>
Date2015-11-03 21:05 -0500
Message-ID<n1bp1s$13p$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#330775
On 2015-11-03 8:41 PM, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
> Don't forget, all these pseudo OSes were originally designed for single computer without any networking.  Linux and other *nixes have been designed with networking in mind from the day 0, hence it's internal part of their kernels with all the performance and stability benefits...  No winsocks, no bullshit....

That's fine, but while its networking is stellar, Linux doesn't do very
well in every other area.


-- 
Slimer

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