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Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed.

From	owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed.
Date	2018-11-23 01:12 +0000
Organization	O.W.L.
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SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> wrote:
> On 2018-11-22 5:43 p.m., Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> SilverSlimer wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>> 
>>> On 2018-11-21 10:42 p.m., RonB wrote:
>>>> On 2018-11-21, skimmer <skimmy@icanthearu.net> wrote:
>>>>> Linux pundits love to talk about "the year of Linux" when in truth the year
>>>>> of Linux has failed to materialize. These starry eyed losers will go on for
>>>>
>>>> Actually anti-Linux trolls are the ones who like to talk about "the year of
>>>> Linux." It's another talking point in their collection of lying bullshit
>>>> about what Linux users say.
>>>>
>>>> Adios, "skimmer." Go lie in my killfile.
>>>
>>> My biggest question to the Linux haters is "how does Linux's success or
>>> lack thereof hurt you?"
>>>
>>> To give you an idea, I recently purchased a program called Super for
>>> video conversion. They allowed me to pay with cryptocurrency and I had
>>> some lying around so I didn't see the pain. Meanwhile, as decent as it
>>> is, Handbrake does a better job with video conversion and it happens to
>>> be open-source, like Linux.
>>>
>>> Basically, the mere existence of Linux, whether people hate it or not,
>>> has inspired developers to produce free tools that are appreciated by
>>> dozens or millions rather than force the old way, Shareware or
>>> Commercial, into becoming the norm. It can be as good as it wants or as
>>> bad as it wants but the end result is that people are doing more with
>>> their computers for far less than they had to invest back in the day.
>> 
>> Agreed.  And a fair amount of the "open-source" software impels improvements
>> in corporate software.  For example, Linux itself and the GNU compilers have
>> really forced Microsoft to up their game.  Microsoft C++ has just about
>> achieved parity with GNU C++ for support for C++14, C++17.  Not sure about
>> C++20... it is only 2018 right now :-D
>> 
>> I have been doing a background port of one of my GitHub project to take
>> advantage of C++11 features, and I am loving it.  I will eventually publish
>> the code on GitHub (a few months from now), but currently push the fixes to
>> my li'l ol' git server at home.
>> 
>> Man, I love git.
> 
> Exactly. It's impossible to downplay the merits of Linux merely 
> existing. In reality, it doesn't even have to be "as good," it just 
> needs to be "good enough" to make sure that people who are fed up with 
> Microsoft or Apple's policies or software have something else to 
> consider. That, alone, makes sure that neither ever goes too far in 
> locking down their operating system, charging too much for their 
> software or providing too little to the customer. I'm sure they both 
> absolutely hate the fact that Linux exists because it removes even a 
> fraction of their overall power over society.
> 
> Sure, Linux will never have their influence or wealth, but it's kind of 
> like the first Honda to be sold in the United States when American 
> companies were trying to convince the world that unreliable gas guzzlers 
> were the only thing they deserved. It might have been ugly and small, 
> but it was reliable and fuel-efficient. What happened after its 
> introduction is very well known to the world.
> 
 
I think Toyota was here first, by about 15 years.

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Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. skimmer <skimmy@icanthearu.net> - 2018-11-20 22:12 -0500
  Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 03:42 +0000
    Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 11:11 -0500
      Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-22 09:19 -0700
      Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. skimmer <skimmy@icanthearu.net> - 2018-11-22 11:39 -0500
        Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-22 09:51 -0700
        Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-22 09:19 -0800
        Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 17:53 -0500
          Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2018-11-22 18:05 -0700
          Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 10:12 +0000
            Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 10:34 +0000
              Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 05:55 -0800
            Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-23 08:29 -0500
          Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. skimmer <skimmy@icanthearu.net> - 2018-11-23 10:50 -0500
            Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-23 20:29 -0500
              Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. skimmer <skimmy@icanthearu.net> - 2018-11-24 09:02 -0500
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 06:25 -0800
          Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-23 20:54 -0500
            Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-23 22:05 -0500
              Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 19:27 -0800
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 03:32 -0800
              Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-11-23 22:55 -0500
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 20:30 -0800
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-24 12:28 -0500
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 09:50 -0800
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 19:27 -0800
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 01:05 +0000
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-24 18:08 -0800
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. AOC <AOC@mineshot.org> - 2018-11-25 11:18 -0500
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Tammy <frenchielamour69@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 16:46 +0000
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 00:06 +0000
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-25 16:33 -0800
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 02:27 -0800
      Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:43 -0500
        Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 19:57 -0500
          Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2018-11-23 01:12 +0000
            Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-22 21:35 -0500
            Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 10:28 +0000
          Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 10:21 +0000
            Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 02:31 -0800
            Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-23 08:31 -0500
              Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. skimmer <skimmy@icanthearu.net> - 2018-11-23 10:57 -0500
              Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 18:40 +0000
                Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2018-11-23 20:40 -0500
      Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 07:52 -0600
    Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2018-11-22 17:39 -0500
      Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 18:29 +0000
      Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-11-26 07:48 -0600
        Re: Why Desktop Linux Has Failed. Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-11-26 06:08 -0800

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