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| From | Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy, alt.comp.os.windows-11 |
| Subject | Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! |
| Date | 2025-03-29 06:25 -0400 |
| Organization | A noiseless patient Spider |
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On Sat, 3/29/2025 2:49 AM, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote: > On Sat, 29 Mar 2025 01:08:30 -0400, Paul wrote: > >> I don't know if the message is getting through yet, >> but Windows has every feature Linux has. Why do you think they hired >> 7000 developers ? > > Mainly to get in each other’s way, judging from their (lack of) > productivity. > >> Windows has System Read cache and System Write cache. >> It has System Read cache in Win2K. System Write cache came later. >> >> The System Read cache is like every other implementation. > > Doesn’t seem to be. The usage of RAM in the cache seems to interfere with > regular applications’ use of RAM, in a way that doesn’t happen under > Linux. > It seems to be implemented as some sort of unified cache. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/file-caching 125516 MB 22.333757 sec # Malloc test after a reboot 125405 34.227482 # Malloc after System Read Cache full (system read cache gets purged by this...) 125415 26.925629 # Subsequent runs of malloc64.exe, system read cache empty 125419 25.530308 125370 24.816107 125321 25.015528 There isn't zero overhead on the memory management. ******* I did the same test on Linux. The top command has columns like TOTAL FREE USED BUFF/CACHE and the first quantity equals the sum of the other three. This implies, at least from a book-keeping perspective, it works the same as Windows. The malloc.c code differs between the Windows and Linux versions, in the time measurement code. Not in the malloc and memory filling parts. And this is the result of testing on Linux. 120144 MB 43.035967 sec # Malloc test after a reboot 120144 MB 43.139267 sec # Malloc after System Read Cache full (system read cache gets purged by this...) It's true that the behavior looks better, but... Linux is slower. During compile, the same optimization level is used in both environments. The reason the memory amount is lower, is the malloc-linux program has to be stopped before the OOM-killer is triggered. The same code on Windows, simply exits when the last malloc call fails to allocate memory. Paul
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How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-27 21:30 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-27 17:31 -0400
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-27 21:43 -0400
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! pothead <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-28 02:15 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-09 19:00 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-27 22:07 -0400
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-28 04:49 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-28 05:20 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 08:27 -0400
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:41 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! CrudeSausage <crude@sausa.ge> - 2025-03-28 17:35 -0400
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Peter Johnson <peter@parksidewood.nospam> - 2025-03-28 16:23 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 18:58 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Farley Flud <ff@linux.rocks> - 2025-03-28 19:52 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-28 17:00 -0400
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:39 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-28 21:25 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-29 01:08 -0400
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-29 06:49 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-29 06:25 -0400
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-30 06:21 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-29 10:40 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 12:05 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2025-03-29 13:14 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2025-03-29 11:46 -0400
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-31 06:18 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-29 10:35 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-30 06:22 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 00:55 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-29 11:17 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-29 11:58 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-30 14:39 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-28 20:40 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-29 11:26 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2025-03-29 22:21 +0000
Re: How To Speed Startup Of Microsoft Office? Have It Running All The Time! Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2025-03-30 14:23 +0000
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