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| From | Silicon Vee <siliconvee1945@yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Can we agree on this? |
| Date | 2018-10-13 06:45 +0200 |
| Organization | Kubuntu Users Of Gambia |
| Message-ID | <87pnwepi8e.fsf@yahoo.com> (permalink) |
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DFS <nospam@nospam.com> writes:
> On 10/11/2018 1:32 PM, shit("I have a BSEE")v wrote:
>
>> ... if I have been completely correct and honest about feedback ....
>
> You being correct about negative feedback is a big, fat NO:
>
>
> 1. Wikipedia:
> "negative feedback generally promotes stability"
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative_feedback
>
> 2. Wikipedia:
> "Positive feedback tends to cause system instability."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_feedback
>
> 3. textbook:
> "negative voltage feedback increases circuit stability"
> http://books.google.com/books?id=TUhLAgAAQBAJ&pg=PA1049&lpg=PA1049#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
> 4. research paper, pg 94
> "The negative feedback helps to maintain stability in a system
> in spite of external changes."
> http://cds.cern.ch/record/1100534/files/p73.pdf
>
> 5. What Science is and How It Works, pg 297
> "Negative feedback, on the other hand, usually leads to stability.
> Because it provides stability, negative feedback is often used in
> engineering control systems."
> http://books.google.com/books?id=Dk-xS6nABrYC&pg=PA297&lpg=PA297#v=onepage&q&f=false
>
> 6. Article about testing power supplies
> "Power supplies employ negative feedback from the output back to an
> error amplifier to ensure proper regulation over various operating
> conditions"
> http://www.edn.com/design/power-management/4412230/Testing-a-power-supply---Stability--Part-three-
>
> 7. Electropaedia
> "negative feedback systems... allow the user to set a desired operating
> state as a target or reference and the control system will automatically
> move the system to the desired operating point and maintain it at that
> point thereafter."
> http://www.mpoweruk.com/motorcontrols.htm
>
> 8. MIT
> "To make systems stable, we use Negative Feedback"
> http://web.mit.edu/jamwno/Public/UAT/Jim_Feedback.ppt
>
> 9. MIT
> "Since it's hard to make the op-amp gain stable over all operating
> conditions negative feedback is used to stabilize the op-amp"
> http://www.mit.edu/~godoy/6098/study/review_all.pdf
>
> 10. Oxford University
> "Negative feedback is a central concept in the design of linear
> amplifiers. It enables them to be designed with predictable, precise and
> stable performance."
> http://www-teaching.physics.ox.ac.uk/practical_course/ELManCh14.pdf
>
> 11. Princeton University
> "Black used negative feedback, which reduces the gain but makes the
> amplifier insensitive to variations in tube characteristics. This
> invention made it possible to build stable amplifiers with linear
> characteristics..."
> http://press.princeton.edu/chapters/s9493.pdf
>
> 12. "While positive feedback drives an amplifier circuit toward a
> point of instability (oscillations), negative feedback drives it the
> opposite direction: toward a point of stability."
> http://openbookproject.net/electricCircuits/Semi/SEMI_4.html#xtocid209015
>
> 13. "We have already talked about FEEDBACK in terms of NEGATIVE FEEDBACK to
> stabilize a circuit."
> http://www.talkingelectronics.com/projects/TheTransistorAmplifier/TheTransistorAmplifier-P1.html
>
>
>
>
> turdv, standing alone:
> "Negative feedback has many benefits, but "maintaining stability" is not
> one of them. Just the opposite, in fact."
>
The turd does not have a degree in EE if he thinks this. It's
impossible.
--
any of the subatomic particles (such as protons and neutrons) that are
made up of quarks and are subject to the strong force.
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Re: Can we agree on this? Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 10:45 -0700
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Re: Can we agree on this? DFS <nospam@nospam.com> - 2018-10-11 18:50 -0400
Re: Can we agree on this? -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-11 12:00 -0700
Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 14:31 -0500
Re: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-11 14:43 -0500
Re: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2018-10-11 12:56 -0700
Nope, there was an answer ... and it still hasn't changed (Re: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-11 13:42 -0700
Re: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-12 07:56 -0500
BTDT (was: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-12 08:14 -0700
Re: BTDT (was: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts) Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 08:34 -0700
Re: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 09:37 -0700
Re: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2018-10-12 11:40 -0500
See: Law of Holes (was: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2018-10-12 09:59 -0700
Re: Apparently, -highhorse lacks the guts Steve Carroll <frelwizzen@gmail.com> - 2018-10-12 10:08 -0700
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