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| Started by | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| First post | 2025-04-06 05:30 +0000 |
| Last post | 2025-04-11 10:24 -0700 |
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How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 05:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-06 05:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 07:16 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-07 04:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 10:54 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-08 19:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 21:56 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 07:22 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-12 21:31 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-12 21:55 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-12 22:20 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 01:59 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 23:13 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:24 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-12 15:21 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-13 00:25 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-13 02:42 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-13 00:46 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 19:21 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-13 18:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:11 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-16 14:00 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2025-04-17 07:41 +0200
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-06 19:54 +1200
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 08:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2025-04-07 04:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2025-04-07 19:25 +1200
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 10:47 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 10:45 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 11:20 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 11:40 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 11:59 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:01 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:18 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 14:48 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 07:07 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-13 12:46 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-13 09:27 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 10:27 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:08 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 19:38 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 14:58 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-04-06 08:43 -0400
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-06 13:02 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Rick <rick@nospam.com> - 2025-04-06 10:19 -0400
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-06 20:09 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers bp@www.zefox.net - 2025-04-06 15:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@air.isp.spam> - 2025-04-06 11:54 -0400
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-06 16:30 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-07 11:00 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-07 11:10 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers TheCivvie <thecivvie@gmail-antispam.com> - 2025-04-09 18:40 +0100
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 19:34 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 10:11 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-09 18:39 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Ivano Rossi <Ivano.Rossi@nospam.tin.it> - 2025-04-10 22:28 +0200
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 13:42 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-10 23:44 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tom Elam <thomas.e.elam@gmail.com> - 2025-04-14 14:05 -0400
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-14 18:20 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:13 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 16:14 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:25 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 01:43 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 05:55 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:47 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-14 12:13 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 16:13 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-15 18:32 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-15 11:56 -0700
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-15 21:50 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 00:55 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-16 01:21 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 01:29 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2025-04-16 01:24 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-16 06:07 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:43 +0000
Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2025-04-16 18:36 +0000
Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-09 20:38 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 11:06 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 09:59 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 17:17 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 20:35 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 13:43 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-10 20:57 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 15:35 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-10 23:31 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 17:28 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2025-04-11 00:40 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-10 17:41 -0700
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Marion <marion@facts.com> - 2025-04-11 08:04 +0000
Re: Just use iOS files and SMB (was Re: How to copy a photo from Windows to iOS without needing Internet servers Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-04-11 10:24 -0700
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-15 18:11 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vtm7h4$2psd$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #76945 |
On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 18:50:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote : >> Then use the far simpler method of connecting to your Windows machine via >> the Files app. Make sure you have Sharing enabled in Windows first. Simple >> and new apps required. > > Thanks, but I use Linux, and I already stated I'm fine with just using > ifuse and a usb cable. Or KDE Connect. I will agree with anyone who says something sensible that is logically defensible, where I agree with candycane that Linux iFuse is the way to go. What AFC/iFuse allows on Linux is bidirectional iOS transfers over USB! a. Note it's over USB (not over Wi-Fi or the cloud) b. Note you can WRITE to iOS over USB! When I used to dual boot my Windows desktop to Ubuntu, I was initially shocked at how *easy* it was to attain USB read access to iOS' file system! <https://i.postimg.cc/s2x0f9Js/files14.jpg> Linux, win10 & iOS together <https://i.postimg.cc/g269S8rT/files13.jpg> How does macOS work with iOS? <https://i.postimg.cc/pVJf72fN/files12.jpg> iOS hacks very often will fail <https://i.postimg.cc/cChf8mx1/files11.jpg> iOS requires hacks to copy <https://i.postimg.cc/9MGdc2s7/files10.jpg> Android is 2-way fast over USB <https://i.postimg.cc/mDx3xkp4/files09.jpg> iOS is only DCIM & only 1-way <https://i.postimg.cc/3xcCBngd/files08.jpg> iOS is a dumb brick on Windows <https://i.postimg.cc/KjK4nHwf/files07.jpg> Ubuntu is two-way, everything <https://i.postimg.cc/Jhmy9KH7/files06.jpg> Ubuntu iFuse is just magical <https://i.postimg.cc/qqg61Rh8/files05.jpg> Ubuntu, movies _to_ iOS on USB <https://i.postimg.cc/QMk7tvZW/files04.jpg> Ubuntu is two way, everything <https://i.postimg.cc/d3SGkdgr/files03.jpg> Android is two way, everything <https://i.postimg.cc/L8b18Zmx/files02.jpg> iOS "Files" is nothing useful <https://i.postimg.cc/NFkXsJ0X/files01.jpg> iOS/Win is 1-way & DCIM only That's USB. Not SMB. Not anything else. It's USB file transfers with iOS! Since all that USB magic was done by iFuse, I desperately searched for a Windows implementation of iFuse - but alas - it doesn't appear to exist. That's sad because with tricks using Apple File Conduit (AFC) over USB that only one in a million people are aware of, you can write to iOS' filesys. Yes. Write. To much of the iOS filesys. Not just to DCIM! <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios180.jpg> Read & write all! <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios170.jpg> Anywhere you want <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios160.jpg> Any file you want <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios150.jpg> Copy Win10 to iOS <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios140.jpg> read & write iOS <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios130.jpg> iFuse mounts all! <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios120.jpg> iFuse mounts iOS <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios110.jpg> iFuse Windows mnt <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios100.jpg> iFuse is native <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios090.jpg> Nobody knows this <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios080.jpg> The trick! <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios070.jpg> Look closely <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios060.jpg> Both read & write <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios050.jpg> Including DCIM <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios040.jpg> View iOS filesys <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios030.jpg> iOS mounts <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios020.jpg> Allow access? <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios010.jpg> Trust Computer? <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios000.jpg> Ubuntu before iOS Notice I copied huge feature-length films from Ubuntu to iOS sandboxes! Alas, iFuse & AFC do not exist (AFAIK) on either Windows and Android. -- KDEConnect isn't bad though. If anyone knows of an AFC/iFuse implementation on Android/Windows, please let me know as being able to do USB bidirectional file xfer is fantastic!
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-16 14:00 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvvvdjn.3gc99.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #76957 |
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote at 18:11 this Tuesday (GMT): > On Sun, 13 Apr 2025 18:50:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote : > > >>> Then use the far simpler method of connecting to your Windows machine via >>> the Files app. Make sure you have Sharing enabled in Windows first. Simple >>> and new apps required. >> >> Thanks, but I use Linux, and I already stated I'm fine with just using >> ifuse and a usb cable. Or KDE Connect. > > I will agree with anyone who says something sensible that is logically > defensible, where I agree with candycane that Linux iFuse is the way to go. > > What AFC/iFuse allows on Linux is bidirectional iOS transfers over USB! > a. Note it's over USB (not over Wi-Fi or the cloud) > b. Note you can WRITE to iOS over USB! You are still somewhat limited to only the photo album and app-specific folders. Still works well for my usecase, since I only really use it to copy files into VLC. > When I used to dual boot my Windows desktop to Ubuntu, I was initially > shocked at how *easy* it was to attain USB read access to iOS' file system! > <https://i.postimg.cc/s2x0f9Js/files14.jpg> Linux, win10 & iOS together > <https://i.postimg.cc/g269S8rT/files13.jpg> How does macOS work with iOS? > <https://i.postimg.cc/pVJf72fN/files12.jpg> iOS hacks very often will fail > <https://i.postimg.cc/cChf8mx1/files11.jpg> iOS requires hacks to copy > <https://i.postimg.cc/9MGdc2s7/files10.jpg> Android is 2-way fast over USB > <https://i.postimg.cc/mDx3xkp4/files09.jpg> iOS is only DCIM & only 1-way > <https://i.postimg.cc/3xcCBngd/files08.jpg> iOS is a dumb brick on Windows > <https://i.postimg.cc/KjK4nHwf/files07.jpg> Ubuntu is two-way, everything > <https://i.postimg.cc/Jhmy9KH7/files06.jpg> Ubuntu iFuse is just magical > <https://i.postimg.cc/qqg61Rh8/files05.jpg> Ubuntu, movies _to_ iOS on USB > <https://i.postimg.cc/QMk7tvZW/files04.jpg> Ubuntu is two way, everything > <https://i.postimg.cc/d3SGkdgr/files03.jpg> Android is two way, everything > <https://i.postimg.cc/L8b18Zmx/files02.jpg> iOS "Files" is nothing useful > <https://i.postimg.cc/NFkXsJ0X/files01.jpg> iOS/Win is 1-way & DCIM only > > That's USB. Not SMB. Not anything else. It's USB file transfers with iOS! > > Since all that USB magic was done by iFuse, I desperately searched for a > Windows implementation of iFuse - but alas - it doesn't appear to exist. > > That's sad because with tricks using Apple File Conduit (AFC) over USB that > only one in a million people are aware of, you can write to iOS' filesys. > > Yes. Write. To much of the iOS filesys. Not just to DCIM! > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios180.jpg> Read & write all! > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios170.jpg> Anywhere you want > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios160.jpg> Any file you want > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios150.jpg> Copy Win10 to iOS > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios140.jpg> read & write iOS > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios130.jpg> iFuse mounts all! > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios120.jpg> iFuse mounts iOS > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios110.jpg> iFuse Windows mnt > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios100.jpg> iFuse is native > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios090.jpg> Nobody knows this > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios080.jpg> The trick! > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios070.jpg> Look closely > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios060.jpg> Both read & write > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios050.jpg> Including DCIM > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios040.jpg> View iOS filesys > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios030.jpg> iOS mounts > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios020.jpg> Allow access? > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios010.jpg> Trust Computer? > <http://img4.imagetitan.com/img.php?image=18_ios000.jpg> Ubuntu before iOS > > Notice I copied huge feature-length films from Ubuntu to iOS sandboxes! > Alas, iFuse & AFC do not exist (AFAIK) on either Windows and Android. I think some people have tried porting it, but because Windows doesn't have FUSE, it's more difficult. -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> |
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| Date | 2025-04-17 07:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m6bikbF5ipsU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76971 |
On 17/04/2025 01.34, Marion wrote: > On Wed, 16 Apr 2025 14:00:04 -0000 (UTC), candycanearter07 wrote : Enable sshd on one of the machines, use scp/winscp from the other one to copy the files. -- //Aho
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-06 19:54 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <vstbvs$gaji$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76882 |
On 2025-04-06 05:50:04 +0000, candycanearter07 said: > Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote at 05:30 this Sunday (GMT): >> Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial as >> copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without the net. >> >> In a Windows/Android thread, we've been discussing how to use screenshots >> to get past Android security, when Steve Sharf noted that iOS lacks >> Android's security so we can successfully screenshot iOS on Windows PCs. >> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=58173&group=comp.mobile.android#58173> >> >> "Ironically, iOS doesn't have the capability for apps to restrict >> screenshots. I've used an iPhone, on at least two occasions, to do a >> screenshot of a virtual ID card that I wanted to add to my Google >> Wallet. Transferred the image from the iPhone to my Android phone." >> >> So the plan is to install these apps on iOS & Android to do cartooning. >> >> iOS "Voila" >> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voil%C3%A0-ai-artist-cartoon-ghibli/id1558421405> >> >> Android "Voila" >> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wemagineai.voila> >> >> iOS "ToonMe" >> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/toonme-ai-cartoon-face-maker/id1508120751 >> Android "ToonMe" >> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vicman.toonmeapp> >> >> iOS "Photo Lab" >> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/photo-lab-playground-ai/id6443653724> >> Android "Photo Lab" >> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vsin.t16_funny_photo> >> >> The main problem now is how to perform the trivial task of copying >> a photo from the Windows PC to the iOS device without using Apple's >> iTunes abomination bloatware (& insecureware), or Internet servers. >> >> Has anyone on this newsgroup ever copied a photo from Windows to iOS >> without having to create an account on someone's server on the net? > > > You theoretically can with ifuse if you set up WSL. Please do not respond to the know-nothing trolls. Just let them remain ignorant idiots.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-06 08:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vstf8b$1bcl$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #76884 |
On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 19:54:36 +1200, Your Name wrote : >> You theoretically can with ifuse if you set up WSL. > > Just let them remain ignorant idiots. It's interesting Apple trolls hate tech questions, even as simple as how to copy a photo from Windows to the iOS device without the Internet involved. The Apple trolls can't do it. So they are desperate to shut down the question. For fear of what the answer may reveal about how crippled iOS truly is. On the normal adult operating system newsgroups, we're working the problem where they've first suggested fsquirt bluetooth file transfer to iOS. <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86069&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86069> Unfortunately, fsquirt won't work as Apple has purposefully disabled bluetooth file transfers, apparently, in an attempt to limit user choices. It's doubtful anyone on the child-like Apple newsgroups has ever done something as trivial as copying a photo from Windows to the iOS device without using the Internet (given iOS devices are just dumb terminals). But this thread was opened in the hope that at least one Apple user on the Apple newsgroups has copied a photo from Windows to iOS on their own LAN. One option, of course, is to use Apple's trojan bloatware replacement for the deprecated and inscurely defunct iTunes abomination, which is here: *Install the Apple Devices app on Windows* <https://support.apple.com/guide/devices-windows/install-the-apple-devices-app-mchl5ded2763/windows> Since every thread should add value, here's more information about the Apple Devices for Windows" program, which maybe replaces iTunes. <https://apple-devices.en.uptodown.com/windows> "This program is designed to allow you to use Apple devices on Windows without having to rely on iTunes as before. Apple Devices's interface is very simple and minimalistic; all you have to do is connect your Apple device to your PC with a USB cable. Once connected, Apple Devices will recognize the Apple device, and you'll be able to manage all its content and functions from Windows." Since we're actually trying to solve the problem of how to copy a photo from Windows to an iOS device, it behooves us to find a working solution. Apparently "Documents by Readdle" has a free tier that I will try. <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/documents-file-manager-docs/id364901807> Also, SMB Manager - CIFS Client seems like it might copy a photo over. <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/smb-manager-cifs-client/id1141340577> Likewise, "LAN drive SAMBA Server Client" might copy a photo to the iPad. <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lan-drive-samba-server-client/id1317727404> With respect to SMB servers versus SMB clients, note this distinction. For iOS to receive a file from a Windows PC, you need an iOS SMB server. For iOS to retrieve a file from a Windows PC, you need an SMB client. If SMB doesn't work, another option is to turn the Windows PC into a temporary local HTTPS/WEBDAV web server to host the photo for iOS. One such local web server is "HFS HTTP File Server" which is found here. <https://sourceforge.net/projects/hfs/> In summary, I'll solve this problem, but it would be nice if someone else on this newsgroup has copied a photo from Windows to the iPad before.
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| From | candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> |
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| Date | 2025-04-07 04:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnvv6kue.p6uj.candycanearter07@candydeb.host.invalid> |
| In reply to | #76884 |
Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote at 07:54 this Sunday (GMT): > On 2025-04-06 05:50:04 +0000, candycanearter07 said: > >> Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote at 05:30 this Sunday (GMT): >>> Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial as >>> copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without the net. >>> >>> In a Windows/Android thread, we've been discussing how to use screenshots >>> to get past Android security, when Steve Sharf noted that iOS lacks >>> Android's security so we can successfully screenshot iOS on Windows PCs. >>> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=58173&group=comp.mobile.android#58173> >>> >>> "Ironically, iOS doesn't have the capability for apps to restrict >>> screenshots. I've used an iPhone, on at least two occasions, to do a >>> screenshot of a virtual ID card that I wanted to add to my Google >>> Wallet. Transferred the image from the iPhone to my Android phone." >>> >>> So the plan is to install these apps on iOS & Android to do cartooning. >>> >>> iOS "Voila" >>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voil%C3%A0-ai-artist-cartoon-ghibli/id1558421405> >>> >>> Android "Voila" >>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wemagineai.voila> >>> >>> iOS "ToonMe" >>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/toonme-ai-cartoon-face-maker/id1508120751 >>> Android "ToonMe" >>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vicman.toonmeapp> >>> >>> iOS "Photo Lab" >>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/photo-lab-playground-ai/id6443653724> >>> Android "Photo Lab" >>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vsin.t16_funny_photo> >>> >>> The main problem now is how to perform the trivial task of copying >>> a photo from the Windows PC to the iOS device without using Apple's >>> iTunes abomination bloatware (& insecureware), or Internet servers. >>> >>> Has anyone on this newsgroup ever copied a photo from Windows to iOS >>> without having to create an account on someone's server on the net? >> >> >> You theoretically can with ifuse if you set up WSL. > > Please do not respond to the know-nothing trolls. Just let them remain > ignorant idiots. What? I think it was a pretty reasonable question. -- user <candycane> is generated from /dev/urandom
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| From | Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-07 19:25 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <vsvuki$36jon$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76901 |
On 2025-04-07 04:30:05 +0000, candycanearter07 said: > Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> wrote at 07:54 this Sunday (GMT): >> On 2025-04-06 05:50:04 +0000, candycanearter07 said: >> >>> Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote at 05:30 this Sunday (GMT): >>>> Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial as >>>> copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without the net. >>>> >>>> In a Windows/Android thread, we've been discussing how to use screenshots >>>> to get past Android security, when Steve Sharf noted that iOS lacks >>>> Android's security so we can successfully screenshot iOS on Windows PCs. >>>> <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=58173&group=comp.mobile.android#58173> >>>> >>>> >>>> "Ironically, iOS doesn't have the capability for apps to restrict >>>> screenshots. I've used an iPhone, on at least two occasions, to do a >>>> screenshot of a virtual ID card that I wanted to add to my Google >>>> Wallet. Transferred the image from the iPhone to my Android phone." >>>> >>>> So the plan is to install these apps on iOS & Android to do cartooning. >>>> >>>> iOS "Voila" >>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voil%C3%A0-ai-artist-cartoon-ghibli/id1558421405> >>>> >>>> >>>> Android "Voila" >>>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wemagineai.voila> >>>> >>>> iOS "ToonMe" >>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/toonme-ai-cartoon-face-maker/id1508120751 >>>> Android "ToonMe" >>>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vicman.toonmeapp> >>>> >>>> iOS "Photo Lab" >>>> <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/photo-lab-playground-ai/id6443653724> >>>> Android "Photo Lab" >>>> <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vsin.t16_funny_photo> >>>> >>>> The main problem now is how to perform the trivial task of copying >>>> a photo from the Windows PC to the iOS device without using Apple's >>>> iTunes abomination bloatware (& insecureware), or Internet servers. >>>> >>>> Has anyone on this newsgroup ever copied a photo from Windows to iOS >>>> without having to create an account on someone's server on the net? >>> >>> You theoretically can with ifuse if you set up WSL. >> >> Please do not respond to the know-nothing trolls. Just let them remain >> ignorant idiots. > > What? I think it was a pretty reasonable question. Re-read the first sentence complaining about Apple devices not working in the real world. Not only that, but the moron then goes on to whine about how the Android device (supposedly) can't do what they want, while the Apple device can actually do it (so much for "not working"). It's just a typical idiot troll post best ignored. :-\
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-07 10:47 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vt0agf$2e8u$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #76902 |
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 19:25:06 +1200, Your Name wrote : > It's just a typical idiot troll post best ignored And yet, we solved the problem, which enables billions of people to copy files & folders bidirectionally between any common OS, including iOS. *Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend* <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86116&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86116> The reason all the Apple trolls are ignorant is they don't understand that there are people who live in the real world using normal operating systems. The Apple trolls live in the Platonic subterranean world discussed by Socrates & Glaucon where they don't know that the real world even exists. This discussion started when we were trying to screenshot on Windows the mirrored Android screen, when Steve mentioned iOS could screenshot them. So we had to copy a single photo from Android to Windows (which was trivial) and then to iOS (which was impossible by normal means). In solving that problem (which Apple created) we first came up with the HFS solution, and then we hit upon the LocalSend solution, which "just works". Notice the team worked together to come up with the perfect solution. Working together is not a concept known to the Apple trolls who posted.] What did the child-like Apple trolls do in response? They counted the punctuation! Seriously. They counted the punctuation in the tutorials. That's all the Apple trolls "can" do. The Apple trolls only want to defend Apple's deficiencies, to the death. Moving forward, the great news is we have a fantastic new solution: *Tutorial: How to send files between Windows & iOS over the LAN using LocalSend* <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=86116&group=alt.comp.os.windows-10#86116> -- The best way to visualize Apple's ecosystem is to think of it as a subterranean cavern with passageways to itself but none to the real world.
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| From | badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-06 10:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vstm00$rae9$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #76881 |
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: > Apple products don't work in the real world so something as trivial as > copying a photo from Windows to iOS is almost impossible without the net. > > In a Windows/Android thread, we've been discussing how to use screenshots > to get past Android security, when Steve Sharf noted that iOS lacks > Android's security so we can successfully screenshot iOS on Windows PCs. > <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=58173&group=comp.mobile.android#58173> > "Ironically, iOS doesn't have the capability for apps to restrict > screenshots. I've used an iPhone, on at least two occasions, to do a > screenshot of a virtual ID card that I wanted to add to my Google > Wallet. Transferred the image from the iPhone to my Android phone." > > So the plan is to install these apps on iOS & Android to do cartooning. > > iOS "Voila" > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/voil%C3%A0-ai-artist-cartoon-ghibli/id1558421405> > Android "Voila" > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wemagineai.voila> > > iOS "ToonMe" > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/toonme-ai-cartoon-face-maker/id1508120751 > Android "ToonMe" > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.vicman.toonmeapp> > > iOS "Photo Lab" > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/photo-lab-playground-ai/id6443653724> > Android "Photo Lab" > <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=vsin.t16_funny_photo> > > The main problem now is how to perform the trivial task of copying > a photo from the Windows PC to the iOS device without using Apple's > iTunes abomination bloatware (& insecureware), or Internet servers. > > Has anyone on this newsgroup ever copied a photo from Windows to iOS > without having to create an account on someone's server on the net? > Email it to yourself.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-06 11:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vsto1q$1d6v$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #76886 |
On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 10:45:21 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote : >> Has anyone on this newsgroup ever copied a photo from Windows to iOS >> without having to create an account on someone's server on the net? >> > > Email it to yourself. Hi badgolferman, Thanks for trying to help out, where the whole point of having a local network is to be able to transfer files across your own private LAN. Keep in mind this problem only happens with iOS. No other operating system prevents something this simple but iOS. Anyway, after a few hours of testing software, I was able to copy a photo from Windows to the iPad without needing to use the Internet at all. As I am want to do, I added more value in this post than all the Apple trolls have added, combined, to this newsgroup, in their entire lives. *Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions* <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=19950&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#19950> The beauty of that method is that billions of Windows & iOS users can now transfer any file from Windows to the iOS device using only their Wi-Fi. Everything stays on their LAN, which is how file transfer should be. (Only Apple forces people to live in a cave just to transfer files.) I found a whole bunch of other horrid things about iOS in that process. For example, you can't possibly get the version of the Vysor software! That's absurdly ridiculous that Apple won't tell you the Vysor version. <https://i.postimg.cc/7LssFdjb/vysor-ios.jpg> I tried tapping on the "Vysor" entry in the Settings. I tried looking at Vyso in my App Store profile "Purchased" list. I tried the app settings itself... All to no avail. Only Apple can make something so simple as getting the version, impossible. What's worse, I found out that Steve was wrong, unfortunately, when he said that iOS doesn't have the capability to restrict screenshots in apps. This is the link to what Steve said recently: <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=58173&group=comp.mobile.android#58173> "Ironically, iOS doesn't have the capability for apps to restrict screenshots. I've used an iPhone, on at least two occasions, to do a screenshot of a virtual ID card that I wanted to add to my Google Wallet. Transferred the image from the iPhone to my Android phone." I was wrong also, so I'm not blaming Steve for being wrong. But he was wrong nonetheless. He needs to update his Word document on iOS versus Android differences. Protecting from screenshots is no longer only on Android. It's on iOS too. Since he filters me most likely (which means he remains ignorant), maybe you can gently ask him to update his document to include that new datum. -- Only Apple would make something this trivial so difficult to do.
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| From | badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-06 11:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vstp7g$rc63$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #76887 |
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 10:45:21 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote : > > >>> Has anyone on this newsgroup ever copied a photo from Windows to iOS >>> without having to create an account on someone's server on the net? >>> >> >> Email it to yourself. > > Hi badgolferman, > > Thanks for trying to help out, where the whole point of having a local > network is to be able to transfer files across your own private LAN. > > Keep in mind this problem only happens with iOS. > No other operating system prevents something this simple but iOS. > > Anyway, after a few hours of testing software, I was able to copy a photo > from Windows to the iPad without needing to use the Internet at all. > > As I am want to do, I added more value in this post than all the Apple > trolls have added, combined, to this newsgroup, in their entire lives. > *Tutorial: How to copy a photo from Window to iOS without Apple restrictions* > <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=19950&group=misc.phone.mobile.iphone#19950> > > The beauty of that method is that billions of Windows & iOS users can now > transfer any file from Windows to the iOS device using only their Wi-Fi. > > Everything stays on their LAN, which is how file transfer should be. > (Only Apple forces people to live in a cave just to transfer files.) > > I found a whole bunch of other horrid things about iOS in that process. > For example, you can't possibly get the version of the Vysor software! > > That's absurdly ridiculous that Apple won't tell you the Vysor version. > <https://i.postimg.cc/7LssFdjb/vysor-ios.jpg> > > I tried tapping on the "Vysor" entry in the Settings. > I tried looking at Vyso in my App Store profile "Purchased" list. > I tried the app settings itself... > > All to no avail. > Only Apple can make something so simple as getting the version, impossible. > > What's worse, I found out that Steve was wrong, unfortunately, when he said > that iOS doesn't have the capability to restrict screenshots in apps. > > This is the link to what Steve said recently: > <https://www.novabbs.com/computers/article-flat.php?id=58173&group=comp.mobile.android#58173> > "Ironically, iOS doesn't have the capability for apps to restrict > screenshots. I've used an iPhone, on at least two occasions, to do a > screenshot of a virtual ID card that I wanted to add to my Google > Wallet. Transferred the image from the iPhone to my Android phone." > > I was wrong also, so I'm not blaming Steve for being wrong. > But he was wrong nonetheless. > > He needs to update his Word document on iOS versus Android differences. > Protecting from screenshots is no longer only on Android. It's on iOS too. > > Since he filters me most likely (which means he remains ignorant), maybe > you can gently ask him to update his document to include that new datum. Looks like your method requires a server be installed on Windows. That might work for you but most people won’t want that. My work iPhone 14 which is controlled by the company won’t even allow cut and paste of text from Outlook to any other app, including Notes. I can’t copy a video meeting code from Outlook to Google Meet to join a meeting. If I click on the code it won’t allow automatic transfer of the code to the external app. It will only allow codes to be automatically transferred to Microsoft Teams. So there are obviously ways to restrict pasting from one app to another in iOS.
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| From | Marion <marion@facts.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-06 11:59 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vstqa7$2j26$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #76888 |
On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 11:40:32 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote : > Looks like your method requires a server be installed on Windows. Well, it's not "my" method so much as the first method that worked. :) If you know of a better method, then I'm willing to try that out. > That might work for you but most people won't want that. Well, let's be clear what you mean by "install" a server on Windows. You don't actually "install" anything, per se. There is no setup. All you do is doubleclick on the hfs.exe executable & the GUI pops up. On Windows, you slide the file(s) to be copied into that GUI. Then you go onto iOS to get it. No matter what method you use, you're gonna have to deal with a GUI. > My work iPhone 14 which is controlled by the company won't even allow cut > and paste of text from Outlook to any other app, including Notes. I ran into that in my research. I think maybe they are using "Intune"? <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/mem/intune/app-protection-policies/troubleshoot-cut-copy-paste> Does your IT department use those Intune App Protection Policies (APP)? <https://microsoft.github.io/ztlabguide/intappprot/> > I can't > copy a video meeting code from Outlook to Google Meet to join a meeting. Yeah. They're restricting a lot I guess. Maybe they're using this? <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/intune/intune-service/fundamentals/deployment-guide-platform-ios-ipados> > If I click on the code it won't allow automatic transfer of the code to the > external app. They have a LOT of control with that intune stuff. <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune-service/configuration/ios-device-features-settings> > It will only allow codes to be automatically transferred to > Microsoft Teams. Does any of this sound like what words your IT guys are using? <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune-service/protect/software-updates-ios> > So there are obviously ways to restrict pasting from one > app to another in iOS. Well, when I worked in the Silicon Valley, I circumvented every protection method the company ever tried on me - where - funny story - one day they got frustrated with me and replaced my motherboard without telling me. I knew, of course, as the password had to be changed. Plus the tape I put on the frame was broken. But the point is you can defeat IT if you try. :) Always try to be smarter than your IT guy is. :)
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| From | badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-06 13:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vsttuf$relq$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #76889 |
Marion <marion@facts.com> wrote: > On Sun, 6 Apr 2025 11:40:32 -0000 (UTC), badgolferman wrote : > > >> Looks like your method requires a server be installed on Windows. > > Well, it's not "my" method so much as the first method that worked. :) > If you know of a better method, then I'm willing to try that out. > >> That might work for you but most people won't want that. > > Well, let's be clear what you mean by "install" a server on Windows. > You don't actually "install" anything, per se. There is no setup. > > All you do is doubleclick on the hfs.exe executable & the GUI pops up. > On Windows, you slide the file(s) to be copied into that GUI. > Then you go onto iOS to get it. > > No matter what method you use, you're gonna have to deal with a GUI. > >> My work iPhone 14 which is controlled by the company won't even allow cut >> and paste of text from Outlook to any other app, including Notes. > > I ran into that in my research. I think maybe they are using "Intune"? > <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/mem/intune/app-protection-policies/troubleshoot-cut-copy-paste> > > Does your IT department use those Intune App Protection Policies (APP)? > <https://microsoft.github.io/ztlabguide/intappprot/> > >> I can't >> copy a video meeting code from Outlook to Google Meet to join a meeting. > > Yeah. They're restricting a lot I guess. Maybe they're using this? > <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/intune/intune-service/fundamentals/deployment-guide-platform-ios-ipados> > >> If I click on the code it won't allow automatic transfer of the code to the >> external app. > > They have a LOT of control with that intune stuff. > <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune-service/configuration/ios-device-features-settings> > >> It will only allow codes to be automatically transferred to >> Microsoft Teams. > > Does any of this sound like what words your IT guys are using? > <https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/mem/intune-service/protect/software-updates-ios> > >> So there are obviously ways to restrict pasting from one >> app to another in iOS. > > Well, when I worked in the Silicon Valley, I circumvented every protection > method the company ever tried on me - where - funny story - one day they > got frustrated with me and replaced my motherboard without telling me. > > I knew, of course, as the password had to be changed. Plus the tape I put > on the frame was broken. But the point is you can defeat IT if you try. :) > > Always try to be smarter than your IT guy is. :) > Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from MaaS360 which was a royal pain in the ass. They are also heavily encouraging us to store ALL our documents on OneDrive and Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So far I’ve resisted doing that, but I do keep critical copies on Sharepoint for my colleagues to use in case I get hit by a bus.
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-06 13:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vstuv0$13dcn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76891 |
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from MaaS360 which was a > royal pain in the ass. They are also heavily encouraging us to store ALL > our documents on OneDrive and Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So > far I’ve resisted doing that, but I do keep critical copies on Sharepoint > for my colleagues to use in case I get hit by a bus. Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone. The bus factor is an important consideration for an organisation. I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier for me and my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same.
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| From | badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-06 14:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vsu47h$rkq3$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #76893 |
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: > badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from MaaS360 which was a >> royal pain in the ass. They are also heavily encouraging us to store ALL >> our documents on OneDrive and Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So >> far I’ve resisted doing that, but I do keep critical copies on Sharepoint >> for my colleagues to use in case I get hit by a bus. > > Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone. The bus > factor is an important consideration for an organisation. > > I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier for me and > my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same. > I often work offline from home or the road and am not always on the company LAN. I also don’t want my files to get lost or locked up by some technical glitch or hack job. Does that make sense?
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| From | Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-13 07:07 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <vtfnqp$2b9co$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76895 |
badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: > Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from MaaS360 which was a >>> royal pain in the ass. They are also heavily encouraging us to store ALL >>> our documents on OneDrive and Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So >>> far I’ve resisted doing that, but I do keep critical copies on Sharepoint >>> for my colleagues to use in case I get hit by a bus. >> >> Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone. The bus >> factor is an important consideration for an organisation. >> >> I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier for me and >> my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same. >> > > I often work offline from home or the road and am not always on the company > LAN. I also don’t want my files to get lost or locked up by some technical > glitch or hack job. Does that make sense? Not really. I too am often away from the office. SharePoint/OneDrive works fine. You're more likely to irrecoverably lose local files - to hardware loss or failure - than using cloud resources. Very occasionally there is a sync issue with oneDrive but you can always go back to a working version due to the in-built history.
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| From | "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-13 12:46 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xn0p4hwao5shxxt000@reader443.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #76941 |
Chris wrote: >badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from MaaS360 >>>>which was a royal pain in the ass. They are also heavily >>>>encouraging us to store ALL our documents on OneDrive and >>>>Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So far I’ve resisted >>>>doing that, but I do keep critical copies on Sharepoint for my >>>>colleagues to use in case I get hit by a bus. >>> >>> Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone. >>>The bus factor is an important consideration for an >>>organisation. >>> I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier >>>for me and my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same. >>> >> >> I often work offline from home or the road and am not always on >>the company LAN. I also don’t want my files to get lost or locked >>up by some technical glitch or hack job. Does that make sense? > >Not really. > >I too am often away from the office. SharePoint/OneDrive works fine. >You're more likely to irrecoverably lose local files - to hardware >loss or failure - than using cloud resources. > >Very occasionally there is a sync issue with oneDrive but you can >always go back to a working version due to the in-built history. Well, I disagree with you. Most of my work documents are Excel files and they just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you want to work on them. Keeping backup copies on Sharepoint is one thing, but leaving my working versions there is something I'm unwilling to do. This issue is much like the one being argued to death right now. You prefer the cloud method of working documents and I prefer the local method of working copies. Both have their pros and cons, but at least we have a choice on how we want to implement it. The same goes for transferring files between iOS devices and PCs. Some people prefer initiating the transfer from the iPhone side and some people prefer initiating the transfer from the PC side. Both methods work but the pros of one method outweigh the pros of the other method for each person.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-13 09:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vtgol1$39cm7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76943 |
On 2025-04-13 05:46, badgolferman wrote: > Chris wrote: > >> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from MaaS360 >>>>> which was a royal pain in the ass. They are also heavily >>>>> encouraging us to store ALL our documents on OneDrive and >>>>> Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So far I’ve resisted >>>>> doing that, but I do keep critical copies on Sharepoint for my >>>>> colleagues to use in case I get hit by a bus. >>>> >>>> Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone. >>>> The bus factor is an important consideration for an >>>> organisation. >>>> I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier >>>> for me and my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same. >>>> >>> >>> I often work offline from home or the road and am not always on >>> the company LAN. I also don’t want my files to get lost or locked >>> up by some technical glitch or hack job. Does that make sense? >> >> Not really. >> >> I too am often away from the office. SharePoint/OneDrive works fine. >> You're more likely to irrecoverably lose local files - to hardware >> loss or failure - than using cloud resources. >> >> Very occasionally there is a sync issue with oneDrive but you can >> always go back to a working version due to the in-built history. > > Well, I disagree with you. Most of my work documents are Excel files > and they just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you want to work > on them. Keeping backup copies on Sharepoint is one thing, but leaving > my working versions there is something I'm unwilling to do. I'm using Excel with online files all the time and never have a problem. > > This issue is much like the one being argued to death right now. You > prefer the cloud method of working documents and I prefer the local > method of working copies. Both have their pros and cons, but at least > we have a choice on how we want to implement it. The same goes for > transferring files between iOS devices and PCs. Some people prefer > initiating the transfer from the iPhone side and some people prefer > initiating the transfer from the PC side. Both methods work but the > pros of one method outweigh the pros of the other method for each > person.
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| From | "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-14 10:27 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <xn0p4j79873091g003@reader443.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #76944 |
Alan wrote: >On 2025-04-13 05:46, badgolferman wrote: >>Chris wrote: >> >>>badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from >>>>>>MaaS360 which was a royal pain in the ass. They are also >>>>>>heavily encouraging us to store ALL our documents on >>>>>>OneDrive and Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So >>>>>>far I’ve resisted doing that, but I do keep critical copies >>>>>>on Sharepoint for my colleagues to use in case I get hit >>>>>>by a bus. >>>>> >>>>>Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone. >>>>>The bus factor is an important consideration for an >>>>>organisation. >>>>>I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier >>>>>for me and my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same. >>>>> >>>> >>>>I often work offline from home or the road and am not always on >>>>the company LAN. I also don’t want my files to get lost or >>>>locked up by some technical glitch or hack job. Does that make >>>>sense? >>> >>>Not really. >>> >>>I too am often away from the office. SharePoint/OneDrive works >>>fine. You're more likely to irrecoverably lose local files - to >>>hardware loss or failure - than using cloud resources. >>> >>>Very occasionally there is a sync issue with oneDrive but you can >>>always go back to a working version due to the in-built history. >> >>Well, I disagree with you. Most of my work documents are Excel >>files and they just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you >>want to work on them. Keeping backup copies on Sharepoint is one >>thing, but leaving my working versions there is something I'm >>unwilling to do. > >I'm using Excel with online files all the time and never have a >problem. Using a PC bring up an Excel file in Sharepoint. Select a cell with text in it. Press F2 on your keyboard to enable editing within the cell. Press Insert on your keyboard to enable typeover of the characters. That won't work on Sharepoint, but it works on the PC application. I typeover individual characters in cells all the time and want the original number visible while I'm editing that cell. It's cumbersome to use Delete and Backspace keys when the Insert key does exactly what I want. Another annoying thing is text size of the whole file. It defaults to 100% when I want it at 80%. I also have 3-4 spreadsheets open while copying and pasting data back and forth between them. I can arrange these windows on my PC where they are all visible at once and easily Tab from one to another. Keyboard shortcuts don't work elegantly through a web browser. These are just some of the issues with working on Excel files on Sharepoint. There are several more and that's why I prefer using the local version of Microsoft apps rather than the web version. >> >>This issue is much like the one being argued to death right now. >>You prefer the cloud method of working documents and I prefer the >>local method of working copies. Both have their pros and cons, but >>at least we have a choice on how we want to implement it. The same >>goes for transferring files between iOS devices and PCs. Some >>people prefer initiating the transfer from the iPhone side and some >>people prefer initiating the transfer from the PC side. Both >>methods work but the pros of one method outweigh the pros of the >>other method for each person. -- “The more things change, the more they remain the same.” ~ Alphonse Karr
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2025-04-14 12:08 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <vtjmfb$1tva0$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76946 |
On 2025-04-14 03:27, badgolferman wrote: > Alan wrote: > >> On 2025-04-13 05:46, badgolferman wrote: >>> Chris wrote: >>> >>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes, we use Microsoft Intune. They switched over from >>>>>>> MaaS360 which was a royal pain in the ass. They are also >>>>>>> heavily encouraging us to store ALL our documents on >>>>>>> OneDrive and Sharepoint rather than locally on the PC. So >>>>>>> far I’ve resisted doing that, but I do keep critical copies >>>>>>> on Sharepoint for my colleagues to use in case I get hit >>>>>>> by a bus. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why not just use sharepoint? It's so much easier for everyone. >>>>>> The bus factor is an important consideration for an >>>>>> organisation. >>>>>> I have ALL my work files on Sharepoint which makes life easier >>>>>> for me and my colleagues. I encourage my team to do the same. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I often work offline from home or the road and am not always on >>>>> the company LAN. I also don’t want my files to get lost or >>>>> locked up by some technical glitch or hack job. Does that make >>>>> sense? >>>> >>>> Not really. >>>> >>>> I too am often away from the office. SharePoint/OneDrive works >>>> fine. You're more likely to irrecoverably lose local files - to >>>> hardware loss or failure - than using cloud resources. >>>> >>>> Very occasionally there is a sync issue with oneDrive but you can >>>> always go back to a working version due to the in-built history. >>> >>> Well, I disagree with you. Most of my work documents are Excel >>> files and they just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you >>> want to work on them. Keeping backup copies on Sharepoint is one >>> thing, but leaving my working versions there is something I'm >>> unwilling to do. >> >> I'm using Excel with online files all the time and never have a >> problem. > > Using a PC bring up an Excel file in Sharepoint. Select a cell with > text in it. Press F2 on your keyboard to enable editing within the > cell. Press Insert on your keyboard to enable typeover of the > characters. That won't work on Sharepoint, but it works on the PC > application. I typeover individual characters in cells all the time > and want the original number visible while I'm editing that cell. It's > cumbersome to use Delete and Backspace keys when the Insert key does > exactly what I want. When you say "bring up an Excel file in Sharepoint", I think you mean, "open an Excel file on a SharePoint site with the web version of Excel"... ...which isn't what you said you were doing: "they [Excel files] just don't translate well to Sharepoint when you want to work on them." > > Another annoying thing is text size of the whole file. It defaults to > 100% when I want it at 80%. > > I also have 3-4 spreadsheets open while copying and pasting data back > and forth between them. I can arrange these windows on my PC where > they are all visible at once and easily Tab from one to another. > Keyboard shortcuts don't work elegantly through a web browser. > > These are just some of the issues with working on Excel files on > Sharepoint. There are several more and that's why I prefer using the > local version of Microsoft apps rather than the web version. The only problem is that you aren't "working on [] SharePoint". Those are all problems using the web version of Excel, which I would happily acknowledge is vastly inferior to the desktop version. Only you can "work[] on Excel files" that are located on a SharePoint site using the desktop version of the software. No need to "Check out" a file, and then check it back in when you're done, and multiple people can work on a file simultaneously.
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