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  Has your credit card number been compromised? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-11 08:28 -0700
    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-11 13:16 -0500
    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2012-04-11 14:34 -0400
    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-11 20:53 -0400
      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? "Thomas R. Kettler" <tkettler@blownfuse.net> - 2012-04-11 22:43 -0400
        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-11 23:17 -0400
          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-11 23:24 -0400
            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-12 14:22 -0400
              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-12 17:28 -0400
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-13 07:43 +1000
                  Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-12 19:27 -0400
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? dorayme <dorayme@optusnet.com.au> - 2012-04-13 10:20 +1000
                      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-04-13 02:51 +0000
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2012-04-12 21:08 -0500
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-04-13 02:51 +0000
                  Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-04-13 02:51 +0000
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-12 19:23 -0400
                  Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-12 21:25 -0400
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-13 04:30 -0400
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-04-14 00:05 +0000
                      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? News <News@Group.Posts> - 2012-04-14 10:08 -0400
                        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? "John Varela" <newlamps@verizon.net> - 2012-04-15 19:43 +0000
              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-12 17:30 -0400
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-12 19:24 -0400
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Wayne Marsh <waynegmarsh@mac.com> - 2012-04-22 13:17 -0500
                  Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> - 2012-04-23 10:16 +0800
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? *Hemidactylus* <ecphoric@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-22 22:52 -0400
                      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-23 08:25 -0500
                        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-23 07:29 -0700
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-23 00:19 -0400
                      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-23 09:08 -0400
                        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-23 08:30 -0500
                      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2012-04-23 08:28 -0500
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-23 18:36 +1200
                      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-23 07:57 -0400
                        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-24 09:13 +1200
                          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-23 14:33 -0700
                        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> - 2012-04-24 10:26 +0800
                          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-23 20:03 -0700
                            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2012-04-23 21:25 -0600
                              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-24 16:21 +1200
                                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2012-04-23 22:50 -0600
                                  Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-24 18:19 +1200
                            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-24 07:25 -0400
                          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-23 23:42 -0400
                            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2012-04-24 07:29 -0400
                              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-24 18:30 -0400
                            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-25 17:33 -0400
                      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-23 07:28 -0700
                        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-24 09:17 +1200
                          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-23 14:37 -0700
                            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-24 13:33 +1200
                              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2012-04-23 23:28 -0400
                                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-23 20:37 -0700
                                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2012-04-23 22:50 -0600
                                  Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-24 18:21 +1200
                                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-24 00:07 -0700
                      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2012-04-23 20:28 -0600
                        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-24 16:16 +1200
                          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2012-04-23 22:50 -0600
                            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-24 18:27 +1200
                              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2012-04-24 02:35 -0400
                                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-24 19:21 +1200
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-04-24 07:35 +0000
          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-12 08:30 -0400
            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-12 14:33 -0400
              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2012-04-12 23:02 -0400
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? HelpfulHarry@BusyWorking.com (Helpful Harry) - 2012-04-13 18:19 +1200
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-13 15:41 -0400
            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-04-12 14:17 -0500
              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> - 2012-04-12 15:59 -0400
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-12 19:25 -0400
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Tim McNamara <timmcn@bitstream.net> - 2012-04-14 01:18 -0500
            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2012-04-14 00:14 +0000
              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> - 2012-04-14 11:38 +0800
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? me@home.spamsucks.ca (Király) - 2012-04-14 16:13 +0000
                  Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Chris Blunt <mail@nospam.com> - 2012-04-16 15:32 +0800
          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-04-13 19:00 -0400
            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? News <News@Group.Posts> - 2012-04-14 10:09 -0400
        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Wes Groleau <Groleau+news@FreeShell.org> - 2012-04-12 00:13 -0400
        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-12 14:20 -0400
      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? "Geoffrey S. Mendelson" <gsm@mendelson.com> - 2012-04-12 07:19 +0000
    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-04-12 03:06 +0000
      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-11 20:32 -0700
      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-04-13 18:10 +0000
        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-04-13 13:14 -0700
          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2012-04-13 14:10 -0700
            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-13 17:37 -0400
              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2012-04-13 17:33 -0700
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-04-14 02:38 +0000
          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-04-14 02:38 +0000
          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2012-04-13 23:12 -0400
    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-04-15 06:50 +0000
      Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-15 09:44 -0400
        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? News <News@Group.Posts> - 2012-04-15 10:15 -0400
        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-15 11:53 -0400
          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-15 15:10 -0400
        Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2012-04-15 21:05 +0000
          Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-15 18:17 -0400
            Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-04-16 11:10 +0000
              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-16 08:41 -0400
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-04-17 08:27 +0000
                  Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2012-04-17 07:03 -0700
                    Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-17 08:45 -0700
              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2012-04-16 08:10 -0700
                Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2012-04-17 15:05 +0000
              Re: Has your credit card number been compromised? Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2012-04-17 17:54 -0400

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#10916

On 2012-04-11 22:43 , Thomas R. Kettler wrote:

> The reason they do small amounts is that many people wouldn't notice
> those small purchases and you buy small items using numbers of different
> stolen numbers and return the items for refunds.

I had my numbers ripped in Venezuela ending up in two transactions 
totaling around $10K on my MC a few years ago.  The card number was used 
at a casino somewhere in the Antilles.  MC called me up with three 
suspicious transactions.

-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#10910

["Followup-To:" header set to comp.sys.mac.system.]
Davoud wrote:

> That's an incredibly kind offer, and I would surely take you up on it,
> but my bank/debit card company itself notifies me every few weeks that
> my card has been compromised and sends me a new card.

The Israeli VISA franchisee gives you the option of setting a secret word
which they include in an SMS to your cell phone every time the card is used.
Each SMS is set to return dial you to customer service if the transaction
was not done by you.

After the recent release of Israeli credit card numbers by a "hacker", 
I received an email telling me to sign up for the service or they would
not allow me to do online buying. I ignored it assuming it was a phishing
email, and they sent me a real letter on paper through the mail.

Still not 100% trusting, I went to their website and found the page,
and did not type in and click on the link in the letter. I did this because
the "hacker" released addresses along with credit card numbers and 
security codes. 

Geoff.


-- 
Geoffrey S. Mendelson,  N3OWJ/4X1GM/KBUH7245/KBUW5379
In 1969 the US could put a man on the moon, now teenagers just howl at it. :-(

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#10898

Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> I can find out for you.  Send me your credit card number, expiration date, 
> and security code, and I'll let you know whether your card has been 
> compromised.
> 
> -- Michelle
> 
> P. S.  Just so you know that I'm not spamming/scamming you and that my 
> account has not been hacked, the above is a JOKE.  Please do not send me 
> your credit-card information.

Every so often some company I have never heard of phones me or e-mails me
asking me for my credit card details. They get a NO from me as I do not
give my credit card details to companies that say I have a discounted
holiday or there has been a mistake in an order on my credit card, or some
other reason.


-- 
Regards Brian

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#10901

In article <1266570474355892563.671937bclark-es.co.nz@free.teranews.com>,
 Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:

> Every so often some company I have never heard of phones me or e-mails 
> me asking me for my credit card details. They get a NO from me as I do 
> not give my credit card details to companies that say I have a 
> discounted holiday or there has been a mistake in an order on my credit 
> card, or some other reason.

They don't get a "no" from me; they don't get anything from me, and their 
email gets marked as spam.  If mail.app already marked it as spam, I don't 
even see it.

-- Michelle

-- 
Tea Party Patriots is to Patriotism as 
People's Democratic Republic is to Democracy.

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#10947

Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:
> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>> I can find out for you.  Send me your credit card number, expiration date, 
>> and security code, and I'll let you know whether your card has been 
>> compromised.
>> 
>> -- Michelle
>> 
>> P. S.  Just so you know that I'm not spamming/scamming you and that my 
>> account has not been hacked, the above is a JOKE.  Please do not send me 
>> your credit-card information.
> 
> Every so often some company I have never heard of phones me or e-mails me
> asking me for my credit card details. They get a NO from me as I do not
> give my credit card details to companies that say I have a discounted
> holiday or there has been a mistake in an order on my credit card, or some
> other reason.
> 
I get phone calls that claim to be from my credit card company and hang up
immediately.  Some might actually BE from them, but I still hang up. 


-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#10949

Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> writes:

> Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:
> > Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
> >> I can find out for you.  Send me your credit card number, expiration date, 
> >> and security code, and I'll let you know whether your card has been 
> >> compromised.
> >> 
> >> -- Michelle
> >> 
> >> P. S.  Just so you know that I'm not spamming/scamming you and that my 
> >> account has not been hacked, the above is a JOKE.  Please do not send me 
> >> your credit-card information.
> > 
> > Every so often some company I have never heard of phones me or e-mails me
> > asking me for my credit card details. They get a NO from me as I do not
> > give my credit card details to companies that say I have a discounted
> > holiday or there has been a mistake in an order on my credit card, or some
> > other reason.
> > 
> I get phone calls that claim to be from my credit card company and hang up
> immediately.  Some might actually BE from them, but I still hang
> up. 

Are you afraid that the spammers may be employing hypnotists?

I get genuine calls from my credit card company asking to verify
charges they think are suspicious.  Usually the charges are
legitimate, but not always.  They don't have to ask me for my card
number, SS number or anything else to verify the charges.

If they find suspicious charges, and can't verify them, then they stop
the card I think.  Which would be annoying, so I don't want to hang up
on them.

If I don't answer, they leave a message asking me to call the credit
card company at the number on the back of my credit card.   

But I think if I just hung up on them (repeatedly) the results would
be annoying to me.

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#10950

On 13 Apr 2012 13:14:46 -0700, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
wrote:

>I get genuine calls from my credit card company asking to verify
>charges they think are suspicious.  Usually the charges are
>legitimate, but not always.  They don't have to ask me for my card
>number, SS number or anything else to verify the charges.

I tell the caller that I'll call back using the number I have for the card.
-- 
Carl Heinz
cfheinz57@charter.net
(Remove number)

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#10951

On 2012-04-13 17:10 , Carl Heinz wrote:
> On 13 Apr 2012 13:14:46 -0700, Doug Anderson<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I get genuine calls from my credit card company asking to verify
>> charges they think are suspicious.  Usually the charges are
>> legitimate, but not always.  They don't have to ask me for my card
>> number, SS number or anything else to verify the charges.
>
> I tell the caller that I'll call back using the number I have for the card.

Exactly.  Been there.

-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#10960

Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:

> On 2012-04-13 17:10 , Carl Heinz wrote:
> > On 13 Apr 2012 13:14:46 -0700, Doug Anderson<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I get genuine calls from my credit card company asking to verify
> >> charges they think are suspicious.  Usually the charges are
> >> legitimate, but not always.  They don't have to ask me for my card
> >> number, SS number or anything else to verify the charges.
> >
> > I tell the caller that I'll call back using the number I have for the card.
> 
> Exactly.  Been there.

That's a senible strategy of course (though it wouldn't work for
Erilar since he hangs up on them immediately).

But is it necessary?  What my credit card company does is identify
themselves and then asks if my name is indeed what it is, and then
asks me if I've the charge for amount $X at merchant Y is legitimate.

How does my answer to such a question give someone who _isn't_ my
credit card company any opportunity to scam me?

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#10962

Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> writes:
> 
>> On 2012-04-13 17:10 , Carl Heinz wrote:
>>> On 13 Apr 2012 13:14:46 -0700, Doug Anderson<ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I get genuine calls from my credit card company asking to verify
>>>> charges they think are suspicious.  Usually the charges are
>>>> legitimate, but not always.  They don't have to ask me for my card
>>>> number, SS number or anything else to verify the charges.
>>> 
>>> I tell the caller that I'll call back using the number I have for the card.
>> 
>> Exactly.  Been there.
> 
> That's a senible strategy of course (though it wouldn't work for
> Erilar since he hangs up on them immediately).
> 
> But is it necessary?  What my credit card company does is identify
> themselves and then asks if my name is indeed what it is, and then
> asks me if I've the charge for amount $X at merchant Y is legitimate.
> 
> How does my answer to such a question give someone who _isn't_ my
> credit card company any opportunity to scam me?

That's not the kind of question they ask me on the ones I hang up on.  

And for those who haven't heard, I'm not a he.
-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#10963

Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote:
> Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> writes:
> 
>> Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> wrote:
>>> Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>>>> I can find out for you.  Send me your credit card number, expiration date, 
>>>> and security code, and I'll let you know whether your card has been 
>>>> compromised.
>>>> 
>>>> -- Michelle
>>>> 
>>>> P. S.  Just so you know that I'm not spamming/scamming you and that my 
>>>> account has not been hacked, the above is a JOKE.  Please do not send me 
>>>> your credit-card information.
>>> 
>>> Every so often some company I have never heard of phones me or e-mails me
>>> asking me for my credit card details. They get a NO from me as I do not
>>> give my credit card details to companies that say I have a discounted
>>> holiday or there has been a mistake in an order on my credit card, or some
>>> other reason.
>>> 
>> I get phone calls that claim to be from my credit card company and hang up
>> immediately.  Some might actually BE from them, but I still hang
>> up. 
> 
> Are you afraid that the spammers may be employing hypnotists?
> 
> I get genuine calls from my credit card company asking to verify
> charges they think are suspicious.  Usually the charges are
> legitimate, but not always.  They don't have to ask me for my card
> number, SS number or anything else to verify the charges.

I hang up automatically most of the time on robot calls, and apparently did
recently when they decided not to honor the second payment from the same
company I'd told them last time was a valid charge, so they sent me an
e-mail.  I wanted to also tell them I was going to be out of the country
myself next week, but I couldn't escape the robot taking fraud calls and
had to call again and play solitaire until a human was available. 
> 
> If they find suspicious charges, and can't verify them, then they stop
> the card I think.  Which would be annoying, so I don't want to hang up
> on them.
 
Apparently anything foreign except Lufthansa, even a company I've told them
before is valid, triggers the stop.

> If I don't answer, they leave a message asking me to call the credit
> card company at the number on the back of my credit card.   

They had a special number connected only to a robot.
> 
> But I think if I just hung up on them (repeatedly) the results would
> be annoying to me.

Mi e resorts to e-mail notices.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#10965

Doug Anderson:
> Are you afraid that the spammers may be employing hypnotists?
> 
> I get genuine calls from my credit card company asking to verify
> charges they think are suspicious.  Usually the charges are
> legitimate, but not always.  They don't have to ask me for my card
> number, SS number or anything else to verify the charges.
> 
> If they find suspicious charges, and can't verify them, then they stop
> the card I think.  Which would be annoying, so I don't want to hang up
> on them.
> 
> If I don't answer, they leave a message asking me to call the credit
> card company at the number on the back of my credit card.   
> 
> But I think if I just hung up on them (repeatedly) the results would
> be annoying to me.


Bingo. When they don't ask for any information about you or the card,
but merely ask of the $50,000 charge at the yacht-rental agency in
Monte Carlo is legit or not, then you know that they are legit.

I think that the key to remaining secure is to be aware that no
legitimate financial institution will *ever* phone you and ask you for
your card number &c. They will ask for this information and for other
bona fides if you phone them, however.

-- 
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm

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#10983

After reading all the problems with credit card its a good thing that the
iPad doesn't have a credit card slot to buy things at the iTunes store.

-- 
Regards Brian

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#10987

On 2012-04-15 02:50 , Brian wrote:
> After reading all the problems with credit card its a good thing that the
> iPad doesn't have a credit card slot to buy things at the iTunes store.

Yes it does.  When you use the iTunes store Apple stores your CC info. 
So the card is virtually in place at Apple and accessible via your iPad 
and can be charged to via the password you set.


-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#10990

On 4/15/2012 9:44 AM, Alan Browne wrote:
> On 2012-04-15 02:50 , Brian wrote:
>> After reading all the problems with credit card its a good thing that the
>> iPad doesn't have a credit card slot to buy things at the iTunes store.
>
> Yes it does. When you use the iTunes store Apple stores your CC info. So
> the card is virtually in place at Apple and accessible via your iPad and
> can be charged to via the password you set.
>
>


Bingo; same for in-app purchases.

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#10997

In article <hr6dnfid6aYlTRfSnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:

> > After reading all the problems with credit card its a good thing that the
> > iPad doesn't have a credit card slot to buy things at the iTunes store.
> 
> Yes it does.  When you use the iTunes store Apple stores your CC info. 
> So the card is virtually in place at Apple and accessible via your iPad 
> and can be charged to via the password you set.

you don't have to put your cc# in if you don't want to.

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#11001

On 2012-04-15 11:53 , nospam wrote:
> In article<hr6dnfid6aYlTRfSnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@giganews.com>, Alan Browne
> <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>  wrote:
>
>>> After reading all the problems with credit card its a good thing that the
>>> iPad doesn't have a credit card slot to buy things at the iTunes store.
>>
>> Yes it does.  When you use the iTunes store Apple stores your CC info.
>> So the card is virtually in place at Apple and accessible via your iPad
>> and can be charged to via the password you set.
>
> you don't have to put your cc# in if you don't want to.

You don't have to eat hamburgers if you don't want to.

-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#11006

Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2012-04-15 02:50 , Brian wrote:
>> After reading all the problems with credit card its a good thing that the
>> iPad doesn't have a credit card slot to buy things at the iTunes store.
> 
> Yes it does.  When you use the iTunes store Apple stores your CC info. So
> the card is virtually in place at Apple and accessible via your iPad and
> can be charged to via the password you set.
> 

However, the card the store has access to isn't my usual
ridiculously-high-limit CC, but a debit card with a Do Not Allow  
Overdrafts notice and a relatively small balance I don't use much.

-- 
Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad

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#11011

On 2012-04-15 17:05 , Erilar wrote:
> Alan Browne<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>  wrote:
>> On 2012-04-15 02:50 , Brian wrote:
>>> After reading all the problems with credit card its a good thing that the
>>> iPad doesn't have a credit card slot to buy things at the iTunes store.
>>
>> Yes it does.  When you use the iTunes store Apple stores your CC info. So
>> the card is virtually in place at Apple and accessible via your iPad and
>> can be charged to via the password you set.
>>
>
> However, the card the store has access to isn't my usual
> ridiculously-high-limit CC, but a debit card with a Do Not Allow
> Overdrafts notice and a relatively small balance I don't use much.

Comes to the same thing.  One would be hard pressed to spend a lot of 
money quickly at the iTunes store, even with Apps.  And while Apple 
aren't shouting it out, they do resolve charge issues to the customer's 
favour - albeit not quickly (can take a week - 10 days).

As to Apple / iTunes security, I trust it.  And if my CC info leaks out 
and there are charges I have no fear that my bank will cover it.  How my 
bank works that out with Apple doesn't concern me.

-- 
"I was gratified to be able to answer promptly, and I did.
  I said I didn't know."
                           -Samuel Clemens.

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#11019

Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> wrote:
> On 2012-04-15 17:05 , Erilar wrote:
>> Alan Browne<alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca>  wrote:
>>> On 2012-04-15 02:50 , Brian wrote:
>>>> After reading all the problems with credit card its a good thing that the
>>>> iPad doesn't have a credit card slot to buy things at the iTunes store.
>>> 
>>> Yes it does.  When you use the iTunes store Apple stores your CC info. So
>>> the card is virtually in place at Apple and accessible via your iPad and
>>> can be charged to via the password you set.
>>> 
>> 
>> However, the card the store has access to isn't my usual
>> ridiculously-high-limit CC, but a debit card with a Do Not Allow
>> Overdrafts notice and a relatively small balance I don't use much.
> 
> Comes to the same thing.  One would be hard pressed to spend a lot of
> money quickly at the iTunes store, even with Apps.  And while Apple
> aren't shouting it out, they do resolve charge issues to the customer's
> favour - albeit not quickly (can take a week - 10 days).
> 
> As to Apple / iTunes security, I trust it.  And if my CC info leaks out
> and there are charges I have no fear that my bank will cover it.  How my
> bank works that out with Apple doesn't concern me.

So far I have not found a way to way to contact Apple about purchases made
on iTunes. I accidentally downloaded the same app twice (the second time it
an app was for the iPhone) and wanted to try and cancel the transaction.
Also I wanted to report faulty apps that I have brought on iTunes.  Once
they have your money them maybe they don't care anymore. 

-- 
Regards Brian

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