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| Started by | Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> |
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| First post | 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000 |
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back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 14:00 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 10:06 -0400
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 02:47 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 15:56 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 16:13 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 17:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 17:34 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-09 16:15 -0400
Re: back from the brink Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-04-10 08:56 +1200
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:39 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-10 11:50 +0000
Re: back from the brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-05-09 13:12 -1000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink Paul F Austin <pfaustin@bellsouth.net> - 2015-04-11 17:19 -0400
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-12 14:09 +1300
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-11 22:23 -0400
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 07:56 -0700
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:16 -0400
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 08:24 -0700
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:33 -0400
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 15:52 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:57 +0100
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 10:28 -0700
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 19:14 +0100
Re: back from the brink "Ken Blake, MVP" <kblake@kb.invalid> - 2015-04-12 11:47 -0700
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-12 23:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-13 15:01 +1200
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:32 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-13 10:15 +0100
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:39 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-13 13:48 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 10:40 +1200
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-14 09:30 +0100
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-14 21:16 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-14 22:15 +1300
Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-14 21:57 +1000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-15 13:12 +1300
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 12:51 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 11:04 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-14 23:10 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-15 21:56 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 12:53 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:15 +1200
Re: back from the brink dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-04-16 08:02 +1000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-15 22:49 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 12:38 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-16 13:29 +0000
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-17 10:34 +1200
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-16 23:10 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-15 18:02 +0100
Re: back from the brink "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2015-04-15 21:31 +0100
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 09:16 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-16 17:28 +1300
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-16 21:30 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 08:49 +1300
Re: back from the brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 09:58 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-13 00:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:41 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-05-10 02:45 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-04-09 21:39 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink Ed Cryer <ed@somewhere.in.the.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:45 +0100
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 12:46 -0400
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 12:44 -0500
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:08 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 17:23 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 17:30 -0500
Re: back from the brink Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-04-10 18:55 -0400
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-10 19:55 -0500
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:28 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 11:18 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-09 16:08 -0500
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 21:20 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-09 22:34 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 18:32 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-11 18:13 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-04-11 15:35 +0000
Re: back from the brink Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2015-04-11 16:06 +0000
Re: back from the brink David Ritz <dritz@mindspring.com> - 2015-04-11 16:28 -0500
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 13:06 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-04-10 15:21 +1200
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2015-04-10 12:52 +1300
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 01:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-09 22:53 -0400
Re: back from the brink Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> - 2015-04-10 19:58 +1200
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-10 22:44 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 02:47 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 09:40 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-11 17:31 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 14:40 +0000
Re: Back From The Brink "D. Spencer Hines" <d_spencerhines@america.com> - 2015-04-12 04:44 -1000
Re: Back From The Brink Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2015-04-12 14:53 +0000
Re: back from the brink Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> - 2015-04-12 16:53 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 17:05 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-12 21:56 +0000
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-12 22:15 +0000
Re: back from the brink nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-04-12 18:42 -0400
Re: back from the brink Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-04-13 05:30 +0000
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000
Re: back from the brink "JohnT" <johnT@spamnot.com> - 2015-04-09 18:22 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-09 19:24 +0000
Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-10 13:03 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 11:01 +0100
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-11 14:14 +0000
Re: back from the brink "tim....." <tims_new_home@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-04-11 15:38 +0100
Re: back from the brink Aldo Raine <apache@scalpem.net> - 2015-04-10 08:25 -0400
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-10 20:37 +0000
Re: back from the brink John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-04-10 20:32 -0700
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Re: back from the brink poldy <poldy@kfu.com> - 2015-04-13 11:09 -0700
Re: back from the brink Erilar <drache@notchibardun.net> - 2015-04-13 21:51 +0000
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-14 12:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cp4gq1FdvduU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #48164 |
On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". > > I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a > 'user experience'. I don't think that you know what the term means. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 11:04 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <l77ria1q8q00kacbt0h530qjvp25ij6pd2@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #48169 |
On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >> >> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >> 'user experience'. > >I don't think that you know what the term means. I know what it means to me. :-) -- Regards, Eric Stevens
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-14 23:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cp5l42Fni3nU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #48170 |
On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >>> >>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >>> 'user experience'. >> >>I don't think that you know what the term means. > > I know what it means to me. :-) What does it mean to you? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 21:56 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <eedsia9t8fakba7heqeq8017ep5dcpbnr4@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #48171 |
On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >>>> >>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >>>> 'user experience'. >>> >>>I don't think that you know what the term means. >> >> I know what it means to me. :-) > >What does it mean to you? The experience of everything turning to custard. -- Regards, Eric Stevens
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 12:53 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cp75a8F44d9U2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #48174 |
On 2015-04-15, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >>>>> >>>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >>>>> 'user experience'. >>>> >>>>I don't think that you know what the term means. >>> >>> I know what it means to me. :-) >> >>What does it mean to you? > > The experience of everything turning to custard. More nonsense. Not surprised. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 09:15 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <46ltiah6gqvkh182td1vi7p6f51lc29880@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #48175 |
On 15 Apr 2015 12:53:28 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >On 2015-04-15, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >> On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>>On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >>>>>> 'user experience'. >>>>> >>>>>I don't think that you know what the term means. >>>> >>>> I know what it means to me. :-) >>> >>>What does it mean to you? >> >> The experience of everything turning to custard. > >More nonsense. Not surprised. Now it's your turn. What does it mean to you? -- Regards, Eric Stevens
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 08:02 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-D076A5.08020616042015@aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #48179 |
In article <46ltiah6gqvkh182td1vi7p6f51lc29880@4ax.com>, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > >>>What does it mean to you? > >> > >> The experience of everything turning to custard. > > > >More nonsense. Not surprised. > > Now it's your turn. What does it mean to you? Please stop this. -- dorayme
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 22:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cp8882Fd6t0U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #48179 |
On 2015-04-15, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > On 15 Apr 2015 12:53:28 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>On 2015-04-15, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>> On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>>> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>>>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >>>>>>> 'user experience'. >>>>>> >>>>>>I don't think that you know what the term means. >>>>> >>>>> I know what it means to me. :-) >>>> >>>>What does it mean to you? >>> >>> The experience of everything turning to custard. >> >>More nonsense. Not surprised. > > Now it's your turn. What does it mean to you? User experience is the overall experience a user has while using a product. Duh. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 12:38 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <gr0uiadjvbaiqmic2j7jjvcpb77fb8o9st@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #48182 |
On 15 Apr 2015 22:49:38 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >On 2015-04-15, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >> On 15 Apr 2015 12:53:28 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>>On 2015-04-15, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>> On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>>>>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >>>>>>>> 'user experience'. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I don't think that you know what the term means. >>>>>> >>>>>> I know what it means to me. :-) >>>>> >>>>>What does it mean to you? >>>> >>>> The experience of everything turning to custard. >>> >>>More nonsense. Not surprised. >> >> Now it's your turn. What does it mean to you? > >User experience is the overall experience a user has while using a >product. Duh. But the events which make up the value which you refer to as 'user experience' are weighted by their desirability. Having everything turn to custard (aka 'losing the lot') is a user experience I wish to avoid. -- Regards, Eric Stevens
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 13:29 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cp9rpbFp3cjU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #48184 |
On 2015-04-16, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > On 15 Apr 2015 22:49:38 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>User experience is the overall experience a user has while using a >>product. Duh. > > But the events which make up the value which you refer to as 'user > experience' are weighted by their desirability. Having everything turn > to custard (aka 'losing the lot') is a user experience I wish to > avoid. Backups allow you to avoid that experience, silly. The point I was making, which you refuse to acknowledge, is that to do backups, Mac users simply connect a drive and click "Use for Backups", which is far easier and simpler than *many* other backup solutions available, including the one you use. This conversation is a waste of my time. Feel free to carry on by yourself from here on out. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-04-17 10:34 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <60e0ja9ftv5eadrenepk4ks4lfbl986lpk@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #48189 |
On 16 Apr 2015 13:29:15 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >On 2015-04-16, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >> On 15 Apr 2015 22:49:38 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>>User experience is the overall experience a user has while using a >>>product. Duh. >> >> But the events which make up the value which you refer to as 'user >> experience' are weighted by their desirability. Having everything turn >> to custard (aka 'losing the lot') is a user experience I wish to >> avoid. > >Backups allow you to avoid that experience, silly. You seem to have already forgotten that only the other day I wrote: On the other hand, I back up all vital data on PC1 to PC 2. All vital data on PC 2 is backed up onto PC 1. Then both PC backups are backed up onto a 4Tb external drive on PC 1. Backups are controlled by Second Copy http://www.secondcopy.com/ which also is on PC 1. > >The point I was making, which you refuse to acknowledge, is that to do >backups, Mac users simply connect a drive and click "Use for Backups", >which is far easier and simpler than *many* other backup solutions >available, including the one you use. Only a minute ago you were trying to argue about the meaning of 'user experience'. > >This conversation is a waste of my time. Feel free to carry on by >yourself from here on out. A good idea. I can do without your help. -- Regards, Eric Stevens
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 23:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <cpatqjF2u9dU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #48190 |
On 2015-04-16, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > On 16 Apr 2015 13:29:15 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>On 2015-04-16, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>> On 15 Apr 2015 22:49:38 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>>User experience is the overall experience a user has while using a >>>>product. Duh. >>> >>> But the events which make up the value which you refer to as 'user >>> experience' are weighted by their desirability. Having everything turn >>> to custard (aka 'losing the lot') is a user experience I wish to >>> avoid. >> >>Backups allow you to avoid that experience, silly. > > You seem to have already forgotten that only the other day I wrote: Nope, I'm just addressing what you said - in particular, "Having everything turn to custard (aka 'losing the lot') is a user experience I wish to avoid". Connecting a hard drive to a computer and clicking a button on the screen both prevents data loss (the only user experience you seem to acknowledge exists) *and* is a much better user experience than all of this nonsense: > On the other hand, I back up all vital data on PC1 to PC 2. All > vital data on PC 2 is backed up onto PC 1. Then both PC backups are > backed up onto a 4Tb external drive on PC 1. Backups are controlled by > Second Copy http://www.secondcopy.com/ which also is on PC 1. > >> >> The point I was making, which you refuse to acknowledge, is that to >> do backups, Mac users simply connect a drive and click "Use for >> Backups", which is far easier and simpler than *many* other backup >> solutions available, including the one you use. > > Only a minute ago you were trying to argue about the meaning of 'user > experience'. Refusing to acknowledge it yet again. You're entirely predictable. >>This conversation is a waste of my time. Feel free to carry on by >>yourself from here on out. > > A good idea. I can do without your help. Don't flatter yourself. I wasn't in the slightest bit interested in helping you, because it was (and still is) obvious you are only here to argue. So are we done, or are you determined to continue the conversation? -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 18:02 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <150420151802438803%timstreater@greenbee.net> |
| In reply to | #48174 |
In article <eedsia9t8fakba7heqeq8017ep5dcpbnr4@4ax.com>, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >>>>> >>>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >>>>> 'user experience'. >>>> >>>>I don't think that you know what the term means. >>> >>> I know what it means to me. :-) >> >>What does it mean to you? > >The experience of everything turning to custard. Now you're cooking with gas! -- "A committee is a cul-de-sac down which ideas are lured and then quietly strangled." - Sir Barnett Cocks (1907-1989)
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| From | "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> |
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| Date | 2015-04-15 21:31 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <XTzXw.263462$2P1.128117@fx21.am4> |
| In reply to | #48174 |
"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message news:eedsia9t8fakba7heqeq8017ep5dcpbnr4@4ax.com... > On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >>>>> >>>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >>>>> 'user experience'. >>>> >>>>I don't think that you know what the term means. >>> >>> I know what it means to me. :-) >> >>What does it mean to you? > > The experience of everything turning to custard. .......and Apple crumble!
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| From | Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 09:16 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <v7ltiahlt0gleuea7jd58q8d5od9b5hc0a@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #48178 |
On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:31:13 +0100, "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message >news:eedsia9t8fakba7heqeq8017ep5dcpbnr4@4ax.com... >> On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>>On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >>>>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >>>>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >>>>>> 'user experience'. >>>>> >>>>>I don't think that you know what the term means. >>>> >>>> I know what it means to me. :-) >>> >>>What does it mean to you? >> >> The experience of everything turning to custard. > >.......and Apple crumble! > > SHHH ... -- Regards, Eric Stevens
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 17:28 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1m2zf6y.wrwz16xllxtxN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #48180 |
Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:31:13 +0100, "zulu" > <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > > >"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message > >news:eedsia9t8fakba7heqeq8017ep5dcpbnr4@4ax.com... > >> On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> > >>>On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > >>>> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > >>>>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of > >>>>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a > >>>>>> 'user experience'. > >>>>> > >>>>>I don't think that you know what the term means. > >>>> > >>>> I know what it means to me. :-) > >>> > >>>What does it mean to you? > >> > >> The experience of everything turning to custard. > > > >.......and Apple crumble! > > > > SHHH ... What are you doing wrong in Forte to make your reply part of the quote? -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> |
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| Date | 2015-04-16 21:30 +1200 |
| Message-ID | <080viadpe3iocajd8v8v1us8bd28dfrcpd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #48185 |
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 17:28:49 +1300, jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) wrote: >Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: > >> On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 21:31:13 +0100, "zulu" >> <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >"Eric Stevens" <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote in message >> >news:eedsia9t8fakba7heqeq8017ep5dcpbnr4@4ax.com... >> >> On 14 Apr 2015 23:10:58 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >> >> >>>On 2015-04-14, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >> >>>> On 14 Apr 2015 12:51:13 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>>On 2015-04-13, Eric Stevens <eric.stevens@sum.co.nz> wrote: >> >>>>>> On 13 Apr 2015 13:48:36 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>>That's all well and good, but is nowhere near the user experience of >> >>>>>>>connecting a drive and clicking "Use for Backups". >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I don't do it for 'user experience'. In fact, I'm trying to avoid a >> >>>>>> 'user experience'. >> >>>>> >> >>>>>I don't think that you know what the term means. >> >>>> >> >>>> I know what it means to me. :-) >> >>> >> >>>What does it mean to you? >> >> >> >> The experience of everything turning to custard. >> > >> >.......and Apple crumble! >> > >> > SHHH ... > >What are you doing wrong in Forte to make your reply part of the quote? Don't know. It doesn't usually happen. Too late at night to devote any worthwhile thought. -- Regards, Eric Stevens
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2015-04-13 08:49 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1m2t5ax.1bms7d61dw07plN%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #48140 |
Ken Blake, MVP <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote: > On Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:16:15 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> > wrote: > > > In article <4p1liadollgqf4j03k6u2fcdhm64shr8r8@4ax.com>, Ken Blake, MVP > > <kblake@kb.invalid> wrote: > > > > > > > My personal favourite was always people who used the Trash/Recycle Bin > > > > > as storage for files they wanted out of the way, but still accessible, > > > > > with the inevitable disaster following. > > > > > > > > i know someone who when visiting a client, first empties their trash. > > > > > > > > if they bitch, he lectures them about storing real stuff in the real > > > > trash can. > > > > > > > > his clients no longer use it as storage. > > > > > > If it were me, I would no longer use him for service. Even though I > > > agree with his point of view, what he does is mean and nasty, and can > > > even hurt someone who *doesn't* use it for storage, but wants to get > > > back something that was deleted. > > > > then they can restore it from a backup. > > > Maybe. Unfortunately, not everyone has a backup. And the file may have > been created *after* the last backup was made. Even if he has the file > in a backup, restoring it from a backup is much more trouble than from > the recycle bin. > > The whole point of having a recycle bin is to enable you to easily get > back a file you thought you no longer wanted, but changed your mind > about. In all my years computing, I cannot recall taking longer than a few seconds to realise I'd dragged the wrong file into the Trash. -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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| From | Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> |
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| Date | 2015-04-12 09:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <couttrFu33nU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #48130 |
On 2015-04-12, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote:
> My personal favourite was always people who used the Trash/Recycle Bin
> as storage for files they wanted out of the way, but still accessible,
I was stunned speechless the first time I came across that.
--
Today is Boomtime, the 29th day of Discord in the YOLD 3181
I don't have an attitude problem.
If you have a problem with my attitude, that's your problem.
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| From | jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) |
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| Date | 2015-04-13 00:06 +1300 |
| Message-ID | <1m2sirr.1dajhpio70ih8N%jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> |
| In reply to | #48132 |
Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote: > On 2015-04-12, Jamie Kahn Genet <jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz> wrote: > > > My personal favourite was always people who used the Trash/Recycle Bin > > as storage for files they wanted out of the way, but still accessible, > > I was stunned speechless the first time I came across that. I recall one guy who _still_ didn't get it when I asked them if they would store important real life files in their trash bin. One would think the Trash was one of the most obvious metephors of the GUI desktop, but not obvious enough for everyone, I guess :-D -- If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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