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  Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-09 12:38 +0000
    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino <henry@att.net> - 2015-03-09 07:15 -0800
      Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-09 14:56 +0000
      Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-10 09:07 +1300
    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-09 08:07 -0700
    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-09 11:10 -0500
      Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-09 15:16 +0000
        Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-09 11:26 -0500
          Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-09 20:22 +0000
        Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-09 08:39 -0700
          Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-09 11:40 -0500
            Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-09 08:41 -0700
              Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-09 11:50 -0500
          Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-09 19:32 +0000
            Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-09 17:09 -0700
          Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-09 20:21 +0000
            Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino John McWilliams <jpmcw@comcast.net> - 2015-03-09 14:21 -0700
              Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-09 22:04 +0000
                Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-10 01:48 +0000
              Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-09 23:51 +0000
                Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-10 09:05 -0700
                  Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-10 14:06 -0400
                    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Warren Oates <warren.oates@gmail.com> - 2015-03-10 14:35 -0400
                    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-10 11:47 -0700
                      Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> - 2015-03-10 15:34 -0400
                        Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-10 14:06 -0700
                    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-11 02:30 +0000
              Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-09 17:12 -0700
                Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-10 16:53 +0000
            Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-09 17:11 -0700
    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-09 15:11 +0000
      Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-09 11:26 -0500
        Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-09 12:02 -0500
          Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-09 13:03 -0500
            Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-09 14:06 -0400
              Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-03-09 13:19 -0500
                Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-09 16:55 -0500
                  Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-10 13:19 +1300
              Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-09 18:52 +0000
                Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-03-09 14:02 -0500
                  Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-09 15:10 -0400
                  Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2015-03-10 07:05 +1100
                    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> - 2015-03-09 16:41 -0500
                Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> - 2015-03-09 15:08 -0400
                  Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-09 19:24 +0000
                  Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-10 09:02 +1300
                  Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-09 15:18 -0700
              Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Alan Baker <alangbaker@telus.net> - 2015-03-09 15:17 -0700
          Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2015-03-10 09:18 +1300
            Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-09 20:29 +0000
          Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Patty Winter <patty1@wintertime.com> - 2015-03-09 20:47 +0000
    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino sctvguy1 <sctvguy1@invalid.net> - 2015-03-09 17:04 +0000
    Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-10 08:06 -0500
      Re: Apple live event today (showcase watch & macbook) in Cupertino Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-10 13:20 +0000

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#46249

In article <mdlbld$lrp$3@news.albasani.net>, Adair Bordon
<Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> John McWilliams wrote, on Mon, 09 Mar 2015 14:21:50 -0700:
> 
> > But in LaLa land you take the Ten to the whatever.
> 
>  < OT >  
> 
> Ever notice that the two-digit interstate highways start at even numbers 
> of the 10 in the south, then 20 further north, then 30, 40.... 80, and 
> finally 90 when you get to the northernmost route (not all of which 
> actually exist but all that do exist are unique).

The reason for that is that federal EW highways have the lower numbers
at the north part of the country and the higher numbers at the south
end.  This reversal is also true of NS highways; the high numbered
interstates are at the east and the high number federal highways are at
the west.

> The significance of the first digit in the three-digit system
> varies, and I forget the details, but the lower the number, 
> the closer it is to the city center. 

If the first digit is odd, it is a spur into the city; if it is even,
it is either a loop around the city or a bypass.  Therefore 280 can't
be a spur.

There are a few anomalies, such as I 238 and I 99.  Wikipedia explains
them, so I won't duplicate it here.  

There is also a proposed I 11 that would be another anomaly; it would
start near Phoenix, and then onward to Las Vegas.  (Part of it would be
on I40.)  Other plans for it would start it at Casa Grande, near the
intersection of I 10 and I 8, and at the other end extend it to Reno,
and possibly to the Canadian border.

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#46252

On 15-03-10 12:05, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> If the first digit is odd, it is a spur into the city; if it is even,
> it is either a loop around the city or a bypass.


So, roads meant to link states ("interstate") are actually city-centric
commuter highways ?

I would have assumed that naming of the 2 digit highways was done based
on long distance perspective. For instance, the 15 goes from near San
Diego to the Canadian border at Alberta.  It goes through many major
cities along the way, so the numbering couldn't be related to its
relationship with a single city.

Same with the 95 on east coast.  It may be seen as a commuter highway in
Washington, Baltimore, Philadelphia, but also in Miami, Jacksonville and
Newark NJ.  Doubt its numbering is tied to any one city.

The 87 is interesting. Technically not an "interstate". But it does
reach the Canadian border.

Near montreal and northern NY, it is the highway that links montreal to
new york city.

In new york city, it is the a commuter highway that goes through
surburbs , then crosses Tappanzee (sp?) bridge and heads north to
Albany. Same highway, same number, but different viewpoints based on
where you are.


The 2 digit ones appear to be city-based as they are diversions around a
city (generally). But not always. the 287 for instance in the NYC
greater area is actially an interstate, which links the 87 in NY to the
95 in NJ and remains (except for Tappanzee bridge) on western side of
the hudson).

The 787 is technically not connected to the 87 at Albany. It goes
through town whereas the 87 bypasses Albany.

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#46253

In article <54ff32bd$0$20177$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>,
 JF Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> The 87 is interesting. Technically not an "interstate". But it does
> reach the Canadian border.

How is it "not an 'interstate'?" My first clue is that it's got an I in 
front of the number. It's true that it doesn't actually cross a state 
line, but the definition of a highway within Dwight D. Eisenhower 
National System of Interstate and Defense Highways is a bit looser than 
that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_87
-- 
Where's the Vangelis music?
Pris' tongue is sticking out in in the wide shot after Batty has kissed her.
They have put back more tits into the Zhora dressing  room scene.
  -- notes for Blade Runner

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#46254

In article <54ff32bd$0$20177$c3e8da3$1cbc7475@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> > If the first digit is odd, it is a spur into the city; if it is even,
> > it is either a loop around the city or a bypass.
> 
> 
> So, roads meant to link states ("interstate") are actually city-centric
> commuter highways ?

No.  One- and two-digit interstate highways whose numbers end in 5 (NS)
or 0 (EW) are arterial freeways cross the country (or part of it),
linking major cities.  The three-digit highways are the spurs,
bypasses, and loops attached to the arterial interestates; they are the
ones associated with cities.  If you had not read out of context, you
would have understood this.

Not all interstates actually go all the way from edge to edge.

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#46255

On 15-03-10 14:47, Michelle Steiner wrote:

> linking major cities.  The three-digit highways are the spurs,
> bypasses, and loops attached to the arterial interestates; they are the
> ones associated with cities. 


Are those 3 digit sections also considered "interstate" highways  along
with the federal funding etc ? Or just allowed to use the "interstate"
designation and signage because they abide by road standards ?

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#46256

In article <54ff4737$0$22497$c3e8da3$a9097924@news.astraweb.com>, JF
Mezei <jfmezei.spamnot@vaxination.ca> wrote:

> On 15-03-10 14:47, Michelle Steiner wrote:
> 
> > linking major cities.  The three-digit highways are the spurs,
> > bypasses, and loops attached to the arterial interestates; they are the
> > ones associated with cities. 
> 
> 
> Are those 3 digit sections also considered "interstate" highways  along
> with the federal funding etc ? Or just allowed to use the "interstate"
> designation and signage because they abide by road standards ?

They are part of the interstate highway system.  There are other
highways that meet the same standards, but they aren't part of the
interstate highway system, and do not have interstate highway
designations nor signage.

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#46263

JF Mezei wrote, on Tue, 10 Mar 2015 14:06:51 -0400:

> I would have assumed that naming of the 2 digit highways was done based
> on long distance perspective.

It was.

The two-digit interstates are a simple grid.

Well, that's the theory. 

In practice, it's just kind'a sort'a like a grid.

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#46239

In article <mdl2s0$5t7$3@dont-email.me>, John McWilliams
<jpmcw@comcast.net> wrote:

> On 3/9/15   PDT 1:21 PM, Adair Bordon wrote:
> > Michelle Steiner wrote, on Mon, 09 Mar 2015 08:39:27 -0700:
> >
> >> Take the 280.
> >
> > Ah, you know the area well.
> > The 280 is much much prettier, and less traffic.
> > Depends on the starting point which is easier though as 101 is far wider
> > but more trafficed.
> >
> > The 280 goes right along the San Andreas fault, so, that makes for
> > very pretty scenery.
> >
> 
> That's So CA talk. We don't preface Interstates with "the"....
> 
> But in LaLa land you take the Ten to the whatever.

Phoenix has been SoCalifornicated too much, and some of it has rubbed
off on me.  At least I don't call state highway 1 the PCH.

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#46250

In article <090320151712470430%michelle@michelle.org>,
Michelle Steiner  <michelle@michelle.org> wrote:
>
>Phoenix has been SoCalifornicated too much, and some of it has rubbed
>off on me.  At least I don't call state highway 1 the PCH.

And bless you for that! 

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#46242

In article <mdkvci$eov$1@news.albasani.net>, Adair Bordon
<Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> > Take the 280.
> 
> Ah, you know the area well. 

I lived there for a dozen years.

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#46170

Kurt Ullman wrote, on Mon, 09 Mar 2015 10:57:16 -0400:

> Since it isn't a medical device, the FDA would have no input on the 
> watch and it doesn't really know if can/wants to get involved with 
> health-related aps.

I'd expect a smart "watch" (strapped to your body) to have at least 
two things different than a smart phone (in your pocket or purse).

1. It should be able to *measure* plenty of biological signals, and, 
2. It needs to be waterproof (so you don't have to take it off all the time).

Also, it would need a decent input/output system; but I assume
Apple has thought of that with the GUI they showed at the last
live event.

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#46174

In article <mdkd7i$1hp$4@news.albasani.net>, Adair Bordon
<Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> I'd expect a smart "watch" (strapped to your body) to have at least 
> two things different than a smart phone (in your pocket or purse).
> 
> 1. It should be able to *measure* plenty of biological signals, and, 
> 2. It needs to be waterproof (so you don't have to take it off all the time).

the apple watch has multiple sensors and tim cook claims he showers
with it on.

> Also, it would need a decent input/output system; but I assume
> Apple has thought of that with the GUI they showed at the last
> live event.

it communicates with an ios device.

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#46181

nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <mdkd7i$1hp$4@news.albasani.net>, Adair Bordon
> <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:
> 
>> I'd expect a smart "watch" (strapped to your body) to have at least 
>> two things different than a smart phone (in your pocket or purse).
>> 
>> 1. It should be able to *measure* plenty of biological signals, and, 
>> 2. It needs to be waterproof (so you don't have to take it off all the time).
> 
> the apple watch has multiple sensors and tim cook claims he showers
> with it on.
> 
>> Also, it would need a decent input/output system; but I assume
>> Apple has thought of that with the GUI they showed at the last
>> live event.
> 
> it communicates with an ios device.

I'd like to be able to take a quick glance to see what the time is, too.
Yeah, I know, revolutionary concept -- a watch that tells time!
  bj

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#46182

In article
<1267891323447612858.301890address_is-invalid.invalid@news.giganews.com>,
 bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> >> I'd expect a smart "watch" (strapped to your body) to have at least 
> >> two things different than a smart phone (in your pocket or purse).
> >> 
> >> 1. It should be able to *measure* plenty of biological signals, and, 
> >> 2. It needs to be waterproof (so you don't have to take it off all the
> >> time).
> > 
> > the apple watch has multiple sensors and tim cook claims he showers
> > with it on.
> > 
> >> Also, it would need a decent input/output system; but I assume
> >> Apple has thought of that with the GUI they showed at the last
> >> live event.
> > 
> > it communicates with an ios device.
> 
> I'd like to be able to take a quick glance to see what the time is, too.
> Yeah, I know, revolutionary concept -- a watch that tells time!

it does that too!

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#46187

In article <090320151303195566%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
 nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

> In article
> <1267891323447612858.301890address_is-invalid.invalid@news.giganews.com>,
>  bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> 
> > >> I'd expect a smart "watch" (strapped to your body) to have at least 
> > >> two things different than a smart phone (in your pocket or purse).
> > >> 
> > >> 1. It should be able to *measure* plenty of biological signals, and, 
> > >> 2. It needs to be waterproof (so you don't have to take it off all the
> > >> time).
> > > 
> > > the apple watch has multiple sensors and tim cook claims he showers
> > > with it on.
> > > 
> > >> Also, it would need a decent input/output system; but I assume
> > >> Apple has thought of that with the GUI they showed at the last
> > >> live event.
> > > 
> > > it communicates with an ios device.
> > 
> > I'd like to be able to take a quick glance to see what the time is, too.
> > Yeah, I know, revolutionary concept -- a watch that tells time!
> 
> it does that too!

If it does that as well as the iPhone makes phone calls, you'll need a 
real watch on your other wrist.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***

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#46188

LOL.  

I was watching the Apple live feed on my iPhone 6 while it was plugged
in and charging.  During the showing of the Apple Watch they used "Hey
Siri".  

 Siri heard it on my iPhone and answered, interrupting the stream. Had
to reconnect :-)

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#46224

BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote:
> LOL.  
> 
> I was watching the Apple live feed on my iPhone 6 while it was plugged
> in and charging.  During the showing of the Apple Watch they used "Hey
> Siri".  
> 
>  Siri heard it on my iPhone and answered, interrupting the stream. Had
> to reconnect :-)

My plugged-in phone bonged at the "Hey Siri" from my Apple TV.
(people with an Amazon Echo have had similar experiences with Alexa (the
Echo) responding to a show on TV when a similar name is mentioned. But she
responds verbally. Jeopardy was particularly amusing for someone.)

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#46235

In article
<1709333532447629756.443070address_is-invalid.invalid@news.giganews.com>,
 bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> BobbyK <bknight@Conramp.net> wrote:
> > 
> > LOL.  
> > 
> > I was watching the Apple live feed on my iPhone 6 while it was plugged
> > in and charging.  During the showing of the Apple Watch they used "Hey
> > Siri".  
> > 
> >  Siri heard it on my iPhone and answered, interrupting the stream. Had
> > to reconnect :-)
> 
> My plugged-in phone bonged at the "Hey Siri" from my Apple TV.
> (people with an Amazon Echo have had similar experiences with Alexa (the
> Echo) responding to a show on TV when a similar name is mentioned. But she
> responds verbally. Jeopardy was particularly amusing for someone.)

Imagine the problems Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes must have.  ;-)

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#46191

On 2015-03-09, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
> In article <090320151303195566%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>
>> In article
>> <1267891323447612858.301890address_is-invalid.invalid@news.giganews.com>,
>>  bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'd like to be able to take a quick glance to see what the time is, too.
>>> Yeah, I know, revolutionary concept -- a watch that tells time!
>> 
>> it does that too!
>
> If it does that as well as the iPhone makes phone calls, you'll need a 
> real watch on your other wrist.

I often wonder: How does it feel to be completely full of shit? It's
gotta suck. I make phone calls on my iPhone without a single issue as I
have for numerous years, through several different models. And I'll
likely enjoy making calls with my future Apple Watch as well.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#46193

On 9 Mar 2015 18:52:30 GMT, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:

>On 2015-03-09, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>> In article <090320151303195566%nospam@nospam.invalid>,
>>  nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> In article
>>> <1267891323447612858.301890address_is-invalid.invalid@news.giganews.com>,
>>>  bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'd like to be able to take a quick glance to see what the time is, too.
>>>> Yeah, I know, revolutionary concept -- a watch that tells time!
>>> 
>>> it does that too!
>>
>> If it does that as well as the iPhone makes phone calls, you'll need a 
>> real watch on your other wrist.
>
>I often wonder: How does it feel to be completely full of shit? It's
>gotta suck. I make phone calls on my iPhone without a single issue as I
>have for numerous years, through several different models. And I'll
>likely enjoy making calls with my future Apple Watch as well.

Why is he FOS?  He well may have ongoing problems that you don't
experience.

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