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  How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-20 18:50 +0000
    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-02-20 21:32 -0500
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 02:39 +0000
        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:22 +0000
          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 08:43 +0000
            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 12:31 +0000
        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:22 +0000
        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:24 +0000
        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-02-21 10:55 -0500
          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 19:07 +0000
            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-21 13:40 -0600
              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 19:56 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-02-21 12:13 -0800
                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 07:12 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-21 14:19 -0700
                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-22 16:44 +0000
                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-02-22 21:47 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-21 23:09 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:20 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:21 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:21 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-21 09:45 +0000
        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <Recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 11:29 +0000
          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 12:31 +0000
            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 14:34 +0000
              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 19:08 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 20:14 +0000
                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-03 15:52 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-21 14:20 -0700
                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-21 15:57 -0600
                    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 05:37 +0000
                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-03 00:36 +0000
                    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-03 14:47 +0000
                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 05:38 +0000
                        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 08:49 -0700
                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-04 16:07 +0000
                            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 01:04 +0000
                              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 02:37 +0000
                                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 06:18 +0000
                                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 14:17 +0000
                                    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 03:48 +0000
                                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-05 21:32 -0700
                                        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-07 06:39 +0000
                                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-07 08:53 -0700
                                            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 18:40 +0000
                                              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-08 19:52 +0000
                                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-06 00:30 -0500
                                        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-03-06 22:35 +1100
                                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-07 06:40 +0000
                                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-06 11:25 +0000
                                        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-07 06:35 +0000
                                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-07 08:45 -0700
                                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 18:36 +0000
                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 01:02 +0000
            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <Recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-22 12:54 +0000
              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-03 15:51 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-03 16:02 +0000
                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 05:30 +0000
                    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-04 19:23 +1300
                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 07:02 +0000
                        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-04 20:43 +1300
                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 08:03 +0000
                            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-04 21:11 +1300
                              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 09:12 +0000
                                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-04 22:25 +1300
                                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 15:34 +0000
                                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 15:36 +0000
                                    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-05 08:52 +1300
                                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 00:52 +0000
                                        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 02:31 +0000
                                        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-06 11:51 +1300
                                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-06 01:11 +0000
                                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 03:56 +0000
                                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 04:08 +0000
                            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 08:58 -0700
                              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 00:56 +0000
                                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 02:35 +0000
                        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 08:56 -0700
                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 00:58 +0000
                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-05 04:08 +0000
                        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-05 17:16 +1300
                          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 06:22 +0000
                            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 14:26 +0000
                              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-05 11:13 -0500
                                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 11:50 -0500
                                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 17:02 +0000
                                  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 12:21 -0500
                                    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 17:55 +0000
                                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 13:03 -0500
                                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-06 15:25 -0500
                                    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-05 13:55 -0600
                                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-05 21:30 -0700
                                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 03:50 +0000
                              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 03:48 +0000
                    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 08:53 -0700
                      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 01:00 +0000
    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 05:53 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 06:50 +0000

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#46020

Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> David Empson wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 19:23:22 +1300:
> 
> >> The question is how to get the docx from the Gmail app to either
> >> Pages or Word. 
> > 
> > That can't be done, as several people have already tried to explain.
> 
> I just solved the problem and it can be done (thankfully).
> 
> I wrote up in another post the exact sequence, but, the trick is
> to open the Word document in Safari from the Gmail app:
>  http://i57.tinypic.com/24c5jye.png
> 
> 9 out of 12 times that fails because both Chrome and Safari don't
> open the document (I'm not sure yet why) but, instead, they request
> you log into your Gmail account (which you never need to do):
>  Chrome: http://i60.tinypic.com/2airh1j.png
>  Safari: http://i59.tinypic.com/15q55ir.png

That mechanism is saving a temporary copy of the attachment on Google's
servers (somewhere under mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com), then
sending the URL to Safari or Chrome.

As you noted, it doesn't seem to work reliably. Most of the time when I
tried, it went to my Gmail inbox in Safari (if signed in; or asked for a
login if I wasn't signed in).

This hardly seems a useful feature as it is unpredicatable whether it
will work.

It also violates your "no saving the document in the cloud to open it"
rule.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#46021

David Empson wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 20:43:55 +1300:

> That mechanism is saving a temporary copy of the attachment on Google's
> servers (somewhere under mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com), then
> sending the URL to Safari or Chrome.

Hi David,

I do appreciate your information above, because I wasn't exactly sure
what those particular URLs were (since I had never seen them before).
 
> As you noted, it doesn't seem to work reliably. Most of the time when I
> tried, it went to my Gmail inbox in Safari (if signed in; or asked for a
> login if I wasn't signed in).

It is weird. I'm not sure why. Maybe it's the starting point that is
very sensitive, or, maybe it's something that has a time period 
involved (e.g., maybe a cookie expires or something).

> This hardly seems a useful feature as it is unpredicatable whether it
> will work.

Well, it's not actually for me, so, as long as it works (even it it
takes a dozen tries), that will solve the question for the person 
who asked me.
 
> It also violates your "no saving the document in the cloud to open it"
> rule.

The person who asked me (and who sent a test document) does not have
desktop or laptop computers. She only has the iPads. She probably 
doesn't care that things are stored on the cloud, so, in this case, 
it's probably OK.

However, as you surmised, if it was something that I regularly needed
to do, putting a document on the cloud just so that I could open it
in Word would be the last approach I would take. 

Anyway, I think the following is clear now (which wasn't clear before);
1. Apple Mail does it correctly.
2. Google Mail does NOT do it correctly.
3. Google Mail is a pain but it can be done.
4. But, it seems to involve temporary storage on the cloud.

I don't know, but I suspect Google wanted to do it this way, and they
specifically prevented a simple sharing directly to Word or Pages on
the iPad (and presumably also on the iPhone).

So, it's Google's fault. Not yours. Not mine. And not the iPad.

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#46022

Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> David Empson wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 20:43:55 +1300:
> 
> > That mechanism is saving a temporary copy of the attachment on Google's
> > servers (somewhere under mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com), then
> > sending the URL to Safari or Chrome.
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> I do appreciate your information above, because I wasn't exactly sure
> what those particular URLs were (since I had never seen them before).
>  
> > As you noted, it doesn't seem to work reliably. Most of the time when I
> > tried, it went to my Gmail inbox in Safari (if signed in; or asked for a
> > login if I wasn't signed in).
> 
> It is weird. I'm not sure why. Maybe it's the starting point that is
> very sensitive, or, maybe it's something that has a time period 
> involved (e.g., maybe a cookie expires or something).
> 
> > This hardly seems a useful feature as it is unpredicatable whether it
> > will work.
> 
> Well, it's not actually for me, so, as long as it works (even it it
> takes a dozen tries), that will solve the question for the person 
> who asked me.
>  
> > It also violates your "no saving the document in the cloud to open it"
> > rule.
> 
> The person who asked me (and who sent a test document) does not have
> desktop or laptop computers. She only has the iPads. She probably 
> doesn't care that things are stored on the cloud, so, in this case, 
> it's probably OK.

In that case, doing it via Google Drive (as I suggested in my previous
post) seems far more reliable. Tap the Google Drive icon on the
attachment to save it, then switch to the Google Drive app to access the
saved document and open it in another app.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#46023

David Empson wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 21:11:02 +1300:

> In that case, doing it via Google Drive (as I suggested in my previous
> post) seems far more reliable. Tap the Google Drive icon on the
> attachment to save it, then switch to the Google Drive app to access the
> saved document and open it in another app.

I wasn't sure if the Google Drive part was required or not, in 
the open-in-safari method, as I haven't tested it except for the 
few times this evening.

If the google drive is required for the temporary file storage, 
isn't what I came up with EXACTLY the same thing as you had 
previously suggested?

Or, for the temporary open-in-safari method, is there no need for
Google drive?

(I'm confused.)

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#46024

Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> David Empson wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 21:11:02 +1300:
> 
> > In that case, doing it via Google Drive (as I suggested in my previous
> > post) seems far more reliable. Tap the Google Drive icon on the
> > attachment to save it, then switch to the Google Drive app to access the
> > saved document and open it in another app.
> 
> I wasn't sure if the Google Drive part was required or not, in 
> the open-in-safari method, as I haven't tested it except for the 
> few times this evening.

They are different mechanisms.

The Open in Safari method (while viewing the document in the Gmail app)
appears to be saving a temporary copy of the document in a private
location on Google's servers.

The Save to Google Drive method saves a persistent copy of the document
in the user's own Google Drive storage, which can be opened at any time
using the Google Drive app (or from the Google Drive web interface, or
other methods). This one is activated by tapping the Google Drive icon
on the attachment thumbnail in the mail message, not from the page where
you view the content of the attachment.

> If the google drive is required for the temporary file storage, 
> isn't what I came up with EXACTLY the same thing as you had 
> previously suggested?

No, because the Open in Safari method:

1. Doesn't store the document in the user's own Google Drive (you can't
see it in the Google Drive file listing).

2. Doesn't work reliably. The Google Drive method does.

> Or, for the temporary open-in-safari method, is there no need for
> Google drive?

Probably, but I expect that every Google account used for Gmail
automatically has an associated Google Drive, so it isn't a question of
"needing" Google Drive, but rather whether the open in Safari method
uses Google Drive, which it appears it does not.

> 
> (I'm confused.)


-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#46026

David Empson wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 22:25:56 +1300:

> The Open in Safari method (while viewing the document in the Gmail app)
> appears to be saving a temporary copy of the document in a private
> location on Google's servers.
> 
> The Save to Google Drive method saves a persistent copy of the document
> in the user's own Google Drive storage, which can be opened at any time
> using the Google Drive app (or from the Google Drive web interface, or
> other methods). This one is activated by tapping the Google Drive icon
> on the attachment thumbnail in the mail message, not from the page where
> you view the content of the attachment.

Thank you for clearing that up, as I wasn't sure if the step of
saving to the Google Drive was necessary, or not.

So, it seems that the "open in safari", from what you said, creates
only a "temporary" copy, which, perhaps, is why it's a bit flaky
in that a good portion of the time it opens in Safari, while another
good portion of the time, the Google log in web page appears instead.

I have provided this information to the person who had asked me, 
so, it's fine now, and even I can use it as I do a LOT of reviewing
of kids' college papers lately in my family.

Thanks for your kind help.
Almost always, we find a way to do what may not be obvious, but which
is useful to know how to do.

Opening a word document attachment from Gmail to Word is one of those
things that isn't obvious how to do; but it's useful to know how.

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#46027

David Empson wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 22:25:56 +1300:

> it isn't a question of
> "needing" Google Drive, but rather whether the open in Safari method
> uses Google Drive, which it appears it does not.

Thanks for clarifying the fact the Open-in-Safari method doesn't
use Google Drive.

I'm new to this act of temporarily saving a file to some
unknown location just so that we can then open it in Word.

Do you think that unknown location is local? Or on the net?

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#46033

Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> David Empson wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 22:25:56 +1300:
> 
> > it isn't a question of
> > "needing" Google Drive, but rather whether the open in Safari method
> > uses Google Drive, which it appears it does not.
> 
> Thanks for clarifying the fact the Open-in-Safari method doesn't
> use Google Drive.
> 
> I'm new to this act of temporarily saving a file to some
> unknown location just so that we can then open it in Word.
> 
> Do you think that unknown location is local? Or on the net?

It is clearly on the net - the Gmail app is supplying a URL to Safari
which involves the domain name mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com,
and Safari is going to that URL to access the document.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#46034

David Empson wrote, on Thu, 05 Mar 2015 08:52:02 +1300:

> It is clearly on the net - the Gmail app is supplying a URL to Safari
> which involves the domain name mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com,
> and Safari is going to that URL to access the document.

Drat. Thanks. 

So, in summary, there are at least two ways to solve the problem
of receiving a Word document in the Gmail iOS app and then opening
that attachment in Microsoft Word (or Pages).

Both methods involve saving the attachment to the net, and then opening 
it the attachment in an Apple application (i.e., Safari) and only *then* 
being able to open it in Microsoft Word.

On the other hand, if one uses the Apple Mail app, the attachment
can be opened directly in Microsoft Word, without the need to send
it to the net first.

I'd say, in this case, the Apple iOS apps are behaving quite nicely
(they just work) while the Google Gmail app stinks.

It's almost as if Google doesn't want you to open the document
from anywhere other than from a Google net location.

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#46040

On 2015-03-05, Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:
> David Empson wrote, on Thu, 05 Mar 2015 08:52:02 +1300:
>
>> It is clearly on the net - the Gmail app is supplying a URL to Safari
>> which involves the domain name mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com,
>> and Safari is going to that URL to access the document.
>
> Drat. Thanks. 
>
> So, in summary, there are at least two ways to solve the problem
> of receiving a Word document in the Gmail iOS app and then opening
> that attachment in Microsoft Word (or Pages).
>
> Both methods involve saving the attachment to the net, and then opening 
> it the attachment in an Apple application (i.e., Safari) and only *then* 
> being able to open it in Microsoft Word.
>
> On the other hand, if one uses the Apple Mail app, the attachment
> can be opened directly in Microsoft Word, without the need to send
> it to the net first.

Wow... For your own sake, please learn to use that brain you must have
somewhere in your head. GMail is "on the net" to begin with; so it's not
like the document has to go anywhere else - it's already "on the net"!

-- 
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I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#46075

Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> David Empson wrote, on Thu, 05 Mar 2015 08:52:02 +1300:
> 
> > It is clearly on the net - the Gmail app is supplying a URL to Safari
> > which involves the domain name mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com,
> > and Safari is going to that URL to access the document.
> 
> Drat. Thanks. 
> 
> So, in summary, there are at least two ways to solve the problem
> of receiving a Word document in the Gmail iOS app and then opening
> that attachment in Microsoft Word (or Pages).
> 
> Both methods involve saving the attachment to the net, and then opening
> it the attachment in an Apple application (i.e., Safari) and only *then*
> being able to open it in Microsoft Word.
> 
> On the other hand, if one uses the Apple Mail app, the attachment
> can be opened directly in Microsoft Word, without the need to send
> it to the net first.
> 
> I'd say, in this case, the Apple iOS apps are behaving quite nicely
> (they just work) while the Google Gmail app stinks.
> 
> It's almost as if Google doesn't want you to open the document
> from anywhere other than from a Google net location.

How's this for irony:

Just after we've finally got you to understand the problem with the
Gmail app and the potential solutions, Google released an update to the
Gmail app today, which among other things adds support for the standard
iOS share sheet, allowing attachments to be opened directly in other
apps, without saving another copy of the attachment online.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz

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#46081

On 2015-03-05, David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> How's this for irony:
>
> Just after we've finally got you to understand the problem with the
> Gmail app and the potential solutions, Google released an update to the
> Gmail app today, which among other things adds support for the standard
> iOS share sheet, allowing attachments to be opened directly in other
> apps, without saving another copy of the attachment online.

Hahahaha! : D Cheers!

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#46087

David Empson wrote, on Fri, 06 Mar 2015 11:51:30 +1300:

> Just after we've finally got you to understand the problem with the
> Gmail app and the potential solutions, Google released an update to the
> Gmail app today, which among other things adds support for the standard
> iOS share sheet, allowing attachments to be opened directly in other
> apps, without saving another copy of the attachment online.

Whoa! Thanks for finding that breaking news... 

Gmail for iOS Updated With Quick Actions, Share Sheet and Attachment Viewer
http://www.macrumors.com/2015/03/05/gmail-for-ios-version-4-0/

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/gmail-email-from-google/id422689480?mt=8
"New attachment viewer - Open attachments from Gmail into any app"

Gmail for iOS now lets you archive and reply to email from notifications 
http://www.theverge.com/2015/3/5/8156185/gmail-ios-8-update
"Google says it's added a new attachment viewer, which lets you 
"open attachments from Gmail into any app."

Go figure.

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#46089

David Empson wrote, on Fri, 06 Mar 2015 11:51:30 +1300:

> Google released an update to the
> Gmail app today, which among other things adds support for the standard
> iOS share sheet, allowing attachments to be opened directly in other
> apps, without saving another copy of the attachment online.

I just tried it, and it works perfectly.

1. Press on attachment icon in the Gmail iOS app.
2. At the top right is the typical bluebox-arrow share icon.
3. Press that Share icon.
4. Up comes a selection menu to open in Pages, Word, etc.

If only we knew ... 

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#46031

In article <md6e8r$qsr$1@news.albasani.net>, Adair Bordon
<Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> So, it's Google's fault. Not yours. Not mine. And not the iPad.

That is what we told you a long time ago.

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#46035

Michelle Steiner wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 08:58:12 -0700:

>> So, it's Google's fault. Not yours. Not mine. And not the iPad.
> 
> That is what we told you a long time ago.

Hi Michelle,
I'm gonna be nice from now on (start the timer!).

Yes, I agree. You and everyone else was totally correct, and I 
sincerely mean that. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong, 
especially when I learn how to do that which I'm trying to do.

In this case, the Google Mail app (red M on a white background)
forces us to upload all our Microsoft Word attachments to the 
net (either temporarily or to Google Drive, depending on the 
method used) - just so that we can open the attachment in 
Microsoft Word (to see the embedded correction comments).

That's bad. Very bad.

On the other hand, the Apple apps "just worked".

That is, if the mail was received in the Apple Mail app, there
was absolutely no problem opening that Word attachment in Word
(or Pages).

So, I repeat. The Apple apps (Mail & Safari) just worked.
The Google app (Gmail app) stinks (for this purpose).

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#46041

On 2015-03-05, Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:
> Michelle Steiner wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 08:58:12 -0700:
>
>>> So, it's Google's fault. Not yours. Not mine. And not the iPad.
>> 
>> That is what we told you a long time ago.
>
> Hi Michelle,
> I'm gonna be nice from now on (start the timer!).
>
> Yes, I agree. You and everyone else was totally correct, and I 
> sincerely mean that. I don't mind admitting when I'm wrong, 
> especially when I learn how to do that which I'm trying to do.
>
> In this case, the Google Mail app (red M on a white background)
> forces us to upload all our Microsoft Word attachments to the 
> net (either temporarily or to Google Drive, depending on the 
> method used) - just so that we can open the attachment in 
> Microsoft Word (to see the embedded correction comments).

Wrong. The message and attachment are already on the net (on the IMAP
server). 

> That's bad. Very bad.

No, it's simply how IMAP works.

> On the other hand, the Apple apps "just worked".

You still have no idea what that phrase really means.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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#46030

In article <md6alm$91p$6@news.albasani.net>, Adair Bordon
<Adair@not_my_real_email.com> wrote:

> I just solved the problem and it can be done (thankfully).
<...>
> 9 out of 12 times that fails because both Chrome and Safari don't
> open the document (I'm not sure yet why) but, instead, they request
> you log into your Gmail account (which you never need to do):

A 75% failure rate is "solved the problem"?  And the remaining 25% is
convoluted compared to the simple 100% solution of using Apple's mail
app.

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#46036

Michelle Steiner wrote, on Wed, 04 Mar 2015 08:56:38 -0700:

> A 75% failure rate is "solved the problem"?  And the remaining 25% is
> convoluted compared to the simple 100% solution of using Apple's mail
> app.

Hi Michelle,
This is a good point.

Not only does the Google approach (which requires an upload to the net)
stink compared to the Apple approach (which just worked), but, the 
stinky poo Google approach didn't even work all the time.

I repeat:

1. The Apple tools (Mail & Safari) just worked.
   They easily opened a Word attachment in Word.

2. The Google Gmail app stunk!
   It's cumbersome, at best, insecure at worst, and inefficient
   at all times when it came to opening a Word attachment in Word.

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#46043

Okay, so one time? In band camp? David Empson <dempson@actrix.gen.nz> was all, like:

> I'm guessing that you aren't interested in that option because Google
> Drive is part of "the cloud".

So is gmail. And every website and webpage. The entire Internet, in fact.

-- 
http://2blog.kreme.com
And I just don't care what happens next / looks like freedom but it
feels like death / it's something in between, I guess

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