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| Started by | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| First post | 2014-05-20 18:20 +0000 |
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Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 18:20 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 14:22 -0400
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 18:32 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 15:31 -0400
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 19:41 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 15:46 -0400
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 20:03 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 16:20 -0400
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 20:40 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-20 20:56 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 22:10 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 15:15 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 22:20 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 15:52 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 22:58 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 16:05 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 23:16 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-21 00:17 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-21 00:17 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 00:37 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Neil Ellwood <niel.elllwood2@btinternet.com> - 2014-05-21 03:32 -0500
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 10:57 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-21 09:00 +1200
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 14:53 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 15:00 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 22:18 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-05-21 13:31 +1200
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 02:35 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 19:52 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 02:54 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-20 18:56 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 19:25 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Theo Markettos <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2014-05-20 20:23 +0100
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 19:34 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 15:37 -0400
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 19:45 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 15:46 -0400
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 19:57 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-05-20 16:20 -0400
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 14:24 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 22:23 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 15:59 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 23:18 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 16:29 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Poutnik <poutnik@privacy.invalid> - 2014-05-21 06:55 +0200
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 10:59 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 14:22 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? "Stanley Daniel de Liver" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2014-05-21 10:20 +0100
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 13:50 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-20 20:59 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-20 22:19 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-21 00:18 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 00:34 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 14:30 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 01:06 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-21 01:13 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 01:23 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 18:32 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-05-21 01:35 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 19:05 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 02:16 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-20 19:43 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 02:52 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2014-05-21 20:01 +1000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 11:17 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 06:49 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 15:30 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 20:32 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2014-05-21 17:38 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-22 01:43 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2014-05-21 07:32 -0700
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> - 2014-05-21 15:38 +0000
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? Alan Meyer <ameyer2@yahoo.com> - 2014-06-19 19:29 -0400
Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? John Doe <always.look@message.header> - 2014-06-20 00:11 +0000
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 18:20 +0000 |
| Subject | Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? |
| Message-ID | <llg6db$bq3$1@dont-email.me> |
Trying to avoid confusion... I'm sure that you can use a tablet for a virtual keyboard and/or a touchpad component of a desktop computer, but that's not what I'm asking about. I'm wondering if all you have is a tablet and big monitor. Of course what you see on the tablet screen can be sent to the monitor with a cable or wireless. This is my question... Can you use the tablet as a virtual keyboard and/or a touchpad while displaying the contents of the tablet, the GUI output part like windows and dialogs that we interact with, on a big monitor? The idea is to make use of the tablet touchscreen while using the big monitor as if it were connected to a PC. Let me know if that question is not clear and I will try to explain further. Links or even just keywords would be appreciated. Preferably for Android, but curious to know if it's been done on an iPad. Thanks.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 14:22 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <200520141422266142%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #34692 |
In article <llg6db$bq3$1@dont-email.me>, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > Trying to avoid confusion... > > I'm sure that you can use a tablet for a virtual keyboard and/or a > touchpad component of a desktop computer, but that's not what I'm > asking about. > > I'm wondering if all you have is a tablet and big monitor. Of > course what you see on the tablet screen can be sent to the > monitor with a cable or wireless. > > This is my question... > > Can you use the tablet as a virtual keyboard and/or a touchpad > while displaying the contents of the tablet, the GUI output part > like windows and dialogs that we interact with, on a big monitor? > > The idea is to make use of the tablet touchscreen while using the > big monitor as if it were connected to a PC. > > Let me know if that question is not clear and I will try to > explain further. Links or even just keywords would be appreciated. > Preferably for Android, but curious to know if it's been done on > an iPad. there are numerous remote desktop apps, which will do what you describe.
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 18:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llg74d$bq3$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34694 |
nospam <nospam nospam.invalid> wrote: > John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > >> Trying to avoid confusion... >> >> I'm sure that you can use a tablet for a virtual keyboard >> and/or a touchpad component of a desktop computer, but that's >> not what I'm asking about. >> >> I'm wondering if all you have is a tablet and big monitor. Of >> course what you see on the tablet screen can be sent to the >> monitor with a cable or wireless. >> >> This is my question... >> >> Can you use the tablet as a virtual keyboard and/or a touchpad >> while displaying the contents of the tablet, the GUI output >> part like windows and dialogs that we interact with, on a big >> monitor? >> >> The idea is to make use of the tablet touchscreen while using >> the big monitor as if it were connected to a PC. >> >> Let me know if that question is not clear and I will try to >> explain further. Links or even just keywords would be >> appreciated. Preferably for Android, but curious to know if >> it's been done on an iPad. > > there are numerous remote desktop apps, which will do what you > describe. That's not what I'm talking about. But upon further consideration... I'm not sure it would work since the iPad/Android touch interface uses the whole screen of the tablet. Functioning as a touchpad, it would use a pointer like on a PC, so you would have a pointer moving around on an iPad/android GUI, which is even more involved.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 15:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <200520141531495967%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #34695 |
In article <llg74d$bq3$2@dont-email.me>, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > nospam <nospam nospam.invalid> wrote: > > > John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > > > >> Trying to avoid confusion... > >> > >> I'm sure that you can use a tablet for a virtual keyboard > >> and/or a touchpad component of a desktop computer, but that's > >> not what I'm asking about. > >> > >> I'm wondering if all you have is a tablet and big monitor. Of > >> course what you see on the tablet screen can be sent to the > >> monitor with a cable or wireless. > >> > >> This is my question... > >> > >> Can you use the tablet as a virtual keyboard and/or a touchpad > >> while displaying the contents of the tablet, the GUI output > >> part like windows and dialogs that we interact with, on a big > >> monitor? > >> > >> The idea is to make use of the tablet touchscreen while using > >> the big monitor as if it were connected to a PC. > >> > >> Let me know if that question is not clear and I will try to > >> explain further. Links or even just keywords would be > >> appreciated. Preferably for Android, but curious to know if > >> it's been done on an iPad. > > > > there are numerous remote desktop apps, which will do what you > > describe. > > That's not what I'm talking about. yes it is. it will do what you describe. > But upon further consideration... I'm not sure it would work since > the iPad/Android touch interface uses the whole screen of the > tablet. Functioning as a touchpad, it would use a pointer like on > a PC, so you would have a pointer moving around on an iPad/android > GUI, which is even more involved. the remote desktop apps solve this in a few ways: one is you touch and the cursor goes to that location. another is a virtual trackpad where you can move the cursor as you normally would. a variant on this is a scrollpad, which only scrolls. a tap is normally a click, and can optionally be a right-click, double-click or a click-hold. the keyboard can be displayed or hidden as needed, depending on what you're doing on the target device. some apps have a server component that hooks into the target os so that the tablet can recreate the menus and other controls as normal tablet native user interface elements, rather than just a view of a remote display. this makes it a lot easier to interact with the remote device, but it does require additional software. the usual apps just ride on whatever remote desktop functionality is built in, such as vnc.
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 19:41 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llgb64$b7r$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34712 |
I'm not talking about a "remote device". As I said... "all you have is a tablet and big monitor". I'm talking about using the tablet with a big monitor and making better use of the tablet screen while doing so. There's no point in using the tablet screen for its conventional touch purpose when there is a large monitor available. There is no need to display the GUI on the tablet or to have finger movement be identical with the displayed objects on the tablet when there is a large monitor available. A 7 inch or 8 inch tablet can be used as a virtual keyboard and a large touchpad while showing the contents of the tablet on the big monitor, without any need to show the GUI on the tablet screen. There is no point in taking up space on the monitor for the virtual keyboard. The tablet touchpad area can be significantly smaller (like with a PC touchpad) since your clumsy fingers are not in the way of the GUI objects. So far I'm getting answers to typical questions about showing the tablet screen on a monitor and using the tablet for an input device. Those are not what I'm talking about. -- nospam <nospam nospam.invalid> wrote: > Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: nospam <nospam nospam.invalid> > Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,comp.mobile.ipad > Subject: Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 15:31:49 -0400 > Organization: A noiseless patient Spider > Lines: 66 > Message-ID: <200520141531495967%nospam nospam.invalid> > References: <llg6db$bq3$1 dont-email.me> <200520141422266142%nospam nospam.invalid> <llg74d$bq3$2 dont-email.me> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="7717b73a50cb722c0b3fb849be2135ff"; logging-data="10422"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX19d3IEfl1HOHdV/ndVTh3jS" > User-Agent: Thoth/1.8.3 (Carbon/OS X) > Cancel-Lock: sha1:POBG1w4zsh39LdykdNNd6CLdGE0= > Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.mobile.android:7633 comp.mobile.ipad:45418 > > In article <llg74d$bq3$2 dont-email.me>, John Doe > <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > >> nospam <nospam nospam.invalid> wrote: >> >> > John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote: >> > >> >> Trying to avoid confusion... >> >> >> >> I'm sure that you can use a tablet for a virtual keyboard >> >> and/or a touchpad component of a desktop computer, but that's >> >> not what I'm asking about. >> >> >> >> I'm wondering if all you have is a tablet and big monitor. Of >> >> course what you see on the tablet screen can be sent to the >> >> monitor with a cable or wireless. >> >> >> >> This is my question... >> >> >> >> Can you use the tablet as a virtual keyboard and/or a touchpad >> >> while displaying the contents of the tablet, the GUI output >> >> part like windows and dialogs that we interact with, on a big >> >> monitor? >> >> >> >> The idea is to make use of the tablet touchscreen while using >> >> the big monitor as if it were connected to a PC. >> >> >> >> Let me know if that question is not clear and I will try to >> >> explain further. Links or even just keywords would be >> >> appreciated. Preferably for Android, but curious to know if >> >> it's been done on an iPad. >> > >> > there are numerous remote desktop apps, which will do what you >> > describe. >> >> That's not what I'm talking about. > > yes it is. it will do what you describe. > >> But upon further consideration... I'm not sure it would work since >> the iPad/Android touch interface uses the whole screen of the >> tablet. Functioning as a touchpad, it would use a pointer like on >> a PC, so you would have a pointer moving around on an iPad/android >> GUI, which is even more involved. > > the remote desktop apps solve this in a few ways: > > one is you touch and the cursor goes to that location. > > another is a virtual trackpad where you can move the cursor as you > normally would. a variant on this is a scrollpad, which only scrolls. > > a tap is normally a click, and can optionally be a right-click, > double-click or a click-hold. > > the keyboard can be displayed or hidden as needed, depending on what > you're doing on the target device. > > some apps have a server component that hooks into the target os so that > the tablet can recreate the menus and other controls as normal tablet > native user interface elements, rather than just a view of a remote > display. this makes it a lot easier to interact with the remote device, > but it does require additional software. > > the usual apps just ride on whatever remote desktop functionality is > built in, such as vnc. >
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 15:46 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <200520141546429544%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #34716 |
In article <llgb64$b7r$2@dont-email.me>, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > I'm not talking about a "remote device". As I said... "all you > have is a tablet and big monitor". I'm talking about using the > tablet with a big monitor and making better use of the tablet > screen while doing so. > > There's no point in using the tablet screen for its conventional > touch purpose when there is a large monitor available. There is no > need to display the GUI on the tablet or to have finger movement > be identical with the displayed objects on the tablet when there > is a large monitor available. A 7 inch or 8 inch tablet can be > used as a virtual keyboard and a large touchpad while showing the > contents of the tablet on the big monitor, without any need to > show the GUI on the tablet screen. > > There is no point in taking up space on the monitor for the > virtual keyboard. The tablet touchpad area can be significantly > smaller (like with a PC touchpad) since your clumsy fingers are > not in the way of the GUI objects. > > So far I'm getting answers to typical questions about showing > the tablet screen on a monitor and using the tablet for an input > device. Those are not what I'm talking about. then what does 'using the tablet with a big monitor' mean? if you want to output the tablet to a big monitor, there are several ways to do that. if you want to split the tablet gui to have only the keyboard on the tablet with its interface on the external display, then no you can't. that would be a very odd way to use a touch based device.
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 20:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llgcet$b7r$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34718 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <llgb64$b7r$2@dont-email.me>, John Doe > <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > >> I'm not talking about a "remote device". As I said... "all you >> have is a tablet and big monitor". I'm talking about using the >> tablet with a big monitor and making better use of the tablet >> screen while doing so. >> >> There's no point in using the tablet screen for its >> conventional touch purpose when there is a large monitor >> available. There is no need to display the GUI on the tablet or >> to have finger movement be identical with the displayed objects >> on the tablet when there is a large monitor available. A 7 inch >> or 8 inch tablet can be used as a virtual keyboard and a large >> touchpad while showing the contents of the tablet on the big >> monitor, without any need to show the GUI on the tablet screen. >> >> There is no point in taking up space on the monitor for the >> virtual keyboard. The tablet touchpad area can be significantly >> smaller (like with a PC touchpad) since your clumsy fingers are >> not in the way of the GUI objects. >> >> So far I'm getting answers to typical questions about showing >> the tablet screen on a monitor and using the tablet for an >> input device. Those are not what I'm talking about. > if you want to split the tablet gui to have only the keyboard on > the tablet with its interface on the external display, A keyboard and a touchpad. > then no you can't. that would be a very odd way to use a touch > based device. Only if you have a closed mind. You could have the whole tablet touchscreen as a keyboard and simultaneously use it as a very large touchpad, simply by toggling between one and the other. Or you could divide it into two parts, touchpad and keyboard. One thing for sure... Simply mirroring the tablet display to the monitor and ending up with half of the huge monitor screen covered by a keyboard is ridiculous. And there's no point in requiring extensive finger movement just to emulate a touchpad. Ordinary PC touchpads accurately cover the area of a large monitor.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 16:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <200520141620542648%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #34723 |
In article <llgcet$b7r$5@dont-email.me>, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > > if you want to split the tablet gui to have only the keyboard on > > the tablet with its interface on the external display, > > A keyboard and a touchpad. > > > then no you can't. that would be a very odd way to use a touch > > based device. > > Only if you have a closed mind. a tablet ui is designed for touch, not keyboard & mouse/trackpad touch interfaces don't have cursors, so there is no need for a touchpad unless you are using remote desktop to a mac/windows system. since you say that's not what you want to do then no trackpad is needed. also, with a split interface, you won't know where to touch because the content will be on the big display, not the tablet. some tablet apps can drive an external display with different content than what's on the tablet itself. a keyboard could appear on the tablet only and not affect what's on the external display, however, that's up to individual apps, when it makes sense. most of the time it doesn't. > You could have the whole tablet touchscreen as a keyboard and > simultaneously use it as a very large touchpad, simply by toggling > between one and the other. Or you could divide it into two parts, > touchpad and keyboard. and how is this better than using a normal keyboard and mouse/trackpad? they make bluetooth keyboards and trackpads. use those. what problem are you trying to solve?
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 20:40 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llgek9$e8h$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34730 |
Needs to learn how to introduce prior authors and avoid spamming replies when it knows nothing about the subject... -- nospam <nospam nospam.invalid> wrote: > Path: eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail > From: nospam <nospam nospam.invalid> > Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,comp.mobile.ipad,free.usenet,free.spirit > Subject: Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen? > Date: Tue, 20 May 2014 16:20:54 -0400 > Organization: A noiseless patient Spider > Lines: 36 > Message-ID: <200520141620542648%nospam nospam.invalid> > References: <llg6db$bq3$1 dont-email.me> <200520141422266142%nospam nospam.invalid> <llg74d$bq3$2 dont-email.me> <200520141531495967%nospam nospam.invalid> <llgb64$b7r$2 dont-email.me> <200520141546429544%nospam nospam.invalid> <llgcet$b7r$5 dont-email.me> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > Injection-Info: mx05.eternal-september.org; posting-host="7717b73a50cb722c0b3fb849be2135ff"; logging-data="5105"; mail-complaints-to="abuse eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/bMGy0O1SWcUMqj39KUcfw" > User-Agent: Thoth/1.8.3 (Carbon/OS X) > Cancel-Lock: sha1:Iz6QwyYwfN24aWXBbJxlV/nkPvY= > Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.mobile.android:7643 comp.mobile.ipad:45436 free.usenet:6237993 free.spirit:1809 > > In article <llgcet$b7r$5 dont-email.me>, John Doe > <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > >> > if you want to split the tablet gui to have only the keyboard on >> > the tablet with its interface on the external display, >> >> A keyboard and a touchpad. >> >> > then no you can't. that would be a very odd way to use a touch >> > based device. >> >> Only if you have a closed mind. > > a tablet ui is designed for touch, not keyboard & mouse/trackpad > > touch interfaces don't have cursors, so there is no need for a touchpad > unless you are using remote desktop to a mac/windows system. since you > say that's not what you want to do then no trackpad is needed. > > also, with a split interface, you won't know where to touch because the > content will be on the big display, not the tablet. > > some tablet apps can drive an external display with different content > than what's on the tablet itself. a keyboard could appear on the tablet > only and not affect what's on the external display, however, that's up > to individual apps, when it makes sense. most of the time it doesn't. > >> You could have the whole tablet touchscreen as a keyboard and >> simultaneously use it as a very large touchpad, simply by toggling >> between one and the other. Or you could divide it into two parts, >> touchpad and keyboard. > > and how is this better than using a normal keyboard and mouse/trackpad? > they make bluetooth keyboards and trackpads. use those. > > what problem are you trying to solve? >
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 20:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bu1tsqFtt0iU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #34732 |
On 2014-05-20, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > Needs to learn how to introduce prior authors and avoid spamming > replies when it knows nothing about the subject... In turn, you need to learn how to: * properly quote others * properly delimit your signature * stop top-posting -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 22:10 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llgjtc$psi$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34738 |
I will post however I feel like posting, netcop wannabe...
--
Jolly Roger <jollyroger pobox.com> wrote:
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> From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger pobox.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,comp.mobile.ipad,free.usenet,free.spirit
> Subject: Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen?
> Date: 20 May 2014 20:56:58 GMT
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>
> On 2014-05-20, John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> wrote:
>> Needs to learn how to introduce prior authors and avoid spamming
>> replies when it knows nothing about the subject...
>
> In turn, you need to learn how to:
>
> * properly quote others
> * properly delimit your signature
> * stop top-posting
>
> --
> E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
>
> JR
>
>
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 15:15 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2014052015152778274-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #34753 |
On 2014-05-20 22:10:53 +0000, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> said: > I will post however I feel like posting, netcop wannabe... Why are we trying to help you again? -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 22:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llgkgb$psi$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34754 |
I need a translation...
--
Savageduck <savageduck1 {REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
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> From: Savageduck <savageduck1 {REMOVESPAM}me.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,comp.mobile.ipad,free.usenet,free.spirit
> Message-ID: <2014052015152778274-savageduck1 REMOVESPAMmecom>
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>
> On 2014-05-20 22:10:53 +0000, John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> said:
>
>> I will post however I feel like posting, netcop wannabe...
>
> Why are we trying to help you again?
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Savageduck
>
>
>
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 15:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2014052015523999827-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #34758 |
On 2014-05-20 22:20:59 +0000, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> said: > I need a translation... From the response you fucked up: "Why are we trying to help you again?" Translation: After several of us have taken the trouble to provide you with a few possible solutions to your query, you start acting like an unappreciative asshole. That make some of us wonder why we even bothered. -- Regards, Savageduck
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 22:58 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llgmmu$ali$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34763 |
Savageduck <savageduck1 {REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> said:
>
>> I need a translation...
>
> From the response you fucked up:
And out comes the tough-guy-wannabe on the Internet...
<snipped bullshit>
> you start acting like an unappreciative asshole.
Your mother appreciates me...
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| From | Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> |
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| Date | 2014-05-20 16:05 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <2014052016051682582-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom> |
| In reply to | #34764 |
On 2014-05-20 22:58:38 +0000, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> said:
> Savageduck <savageduck1 {REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>
>> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> said:
>>
>>> I need a translation...
>>
>> From the response you fucked up:
>
> And out comes the tough-guy-wannabe on the Internet...
I have no illusions about my abilities on or off the internet.
> <snipped bullshit>
>
>> you start acting like an unappreciative asshole.
>
> Your mother appreciates me...
...and your sweet character reveals its self, and we now know that you
are into necrophilia.
--
Regards,
Savageduck
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-05-20 23:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llgnoq$hlo$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34767 |
Savageduck <savageduck1 {REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> said:
>> Savageduck <savageduck1 {REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>>> John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> said:
>>>
>>>> I need a translation...
>>>
>>> From the response you fucked up:
>>
>> And out comes the tough-guy-wannabe on the Internet...
>> <snipped bullshit>
>>
>>> you start acting like an unappreciative asshole.
>>
>> Your mother appreciates me...
>
> ...and your sweet character reveals its self, and we now know
> that you are into necrophilia.
She's not dead, she just hadn't had any good dick. Obviously. Quit
thinking only about yourself.
Nobody cares who you are on UseNet. We reply because we want to
see our words. This public forum isn't some exclusive club,
moron.
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-05-21 00:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bu29l1F1p0jU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #34758 |
On 2014-05-20, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> wrote: > I need a translation... You need a whole lot more than that. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-05-21 00:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bu29k9F1p0jU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #34754 |
On 2014-05-20, Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
> On 2014-05-20 22:10:53 +0000, John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> said:
>
>> I will post however I feel like posting, netcop wannabe...
>
> Why are we trying to help you again?
I'm certainly not. His posts are completely fucked up *and* he's a dick.
He's a jerk.
*plonk* into the kill file he goes!
--
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
JR
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| From | John Doe <jdoe@usenetlove.invalid> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2014-05-21 00:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <llgsfi$a6j$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #34780 |
A not-quite-grown-up who thinks everybody needs to know that it's
going to play with its imaginary kill file friend...
--
Jolly Roger <jollyroger pobox.com> wrote:
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> From: Jolly Roger <jollyroger pobox.com>
> Newsgroups: comp.mobile.android,comp.mobile.ipad,free.usenet
> Subject: Re: Tablet as touchpad while showing tablet GUI on big screen?
> Date: 21 May 2014 00:17:13 GMT
> Organization: People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
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> On 2014-05-20, Savageduck <savageduck1 {REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:
>> On 2014-05-20 22:10:53 +0000, John Doe <jdoe usenetlove.invalid> said:
>>
>>> I will post however I feel like posting, netcop wannabe...
>>
>> Why are we trying to help you again?
>
> I'm certainly not. His posts are completely fucked up *and* he's a dick.
> He's a jerk.
>
> *plonk* into the kill file he goes!
>
> --
> E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
> I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.
>
> JR
>
>
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