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| Started by | Maurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> |
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| First post | 2014-01-19 15:56 +1000 |
| Last post | 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 207 — 26 participants |
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IPad and Maurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> - 2014-01-19 15:56 +1000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 01:08 -0500
Re: IPad and Maurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> - 2014-01-19 16:39 +1000
Re: IPad and Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-19 09:35 +0000
Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-19 07:49 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 15:53 -0500
Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-19 16:21 -0800
Re: IPad and AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-01-19 21:17 -0500
Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-19 21:12 -0800
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-22 10:20 +0000
Re: IPad and AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-01-22 11:02 -0500
Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-22 10:18 -0800
Re: IPad and AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-01-22 18:19 -0500
Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-22 15:22 -0800
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-23 02:19 +0000
Re: IPad and Ed Propes <top1sg@suddenlink.net> - 2014-01-24 00:27 -0600
Re: IPad and Earl Grey <earl@t.net> - 2014-01-19 12:37 -0500
Re: IPad and George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-19 11:57 -0600
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 15:52 -0500
Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-19 19:34 +1300
Re: IPad and Maurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> - 2014-01-19 17:10 +1000
Re: IPad and David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-01-19 07:26 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 15:53 -0500
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 09:06 +0000
Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 11:11 -0500
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-19 22:32 +0000
Re: IPad and Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-19 19:56 -0500
Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 20:06 -0500
Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-20 13:24 +1100
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-20 15:27 +0000
Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 09:05 +1300
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 15:20 -0500
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-21 15:56 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-22 12:55 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 11:29 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 14:36 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 15:21 -0800
Re: IPad and dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-24 12:55 +1300
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 16:08 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 21:50 -0500
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 21:50 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 23:52 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 12:13 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-24 10:28 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 15:59 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-24 14:11 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 18:47 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-24 16:39 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 22:11 -0500
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-25 13:36 +0000
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 10:22 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-25 04:54 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
Re: IPad and dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-26 20:59 +1300
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-25 10:16 +0000
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-25 13:36 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 10:26 -0800
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-25 19:12 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 13:21 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 16:28 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 13:30 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 16:36 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 17:58 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:10 -0500
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 03:25 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:55 -0500
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 05:09 +0000
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-26 14:35 +0000
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 15:53 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-26 12:07 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:05 -0500
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 19:22 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 14:10 -0800
Re: IPad and dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-28 17:31 +1300
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 21:27 -0800
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-28 13:34 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 13:22 +0000
Re: IPad and erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:46 -0600
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 18:02 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:10 -0500
Re: IPad and DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2014-01-27 01:17 -0800
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-26 14:32 +0000
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-26 08:10 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-26 12:13 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:05 -0500
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 13:17 +0000
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 05:48 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 18:34 +0000
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 19:26 +0000
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-28 00:31 +0000
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 00:47 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 17:08 -0800
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-28 16:59 +0000
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 09:08 -0800
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 17:12 +0000
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 09:14 -0800
Re: IPad and "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-01-28 22:13 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-29 16:02 +0000
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 17:39 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-29 14:57 -0800
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 15:00 -0800
Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-29 15:03 -0800
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:32 +0000
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 15:11 +0000
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 08:57 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 13:49 -0500
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 13:49 -0500
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 14:12 -0800
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-28 00:32 +0000
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 17:10 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
Re: IPad and erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:46 -0600
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 13:26 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 16:31 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 17:57 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:10 -0500
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 03:21 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:55 -0500
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 05:20 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
Re: IPad and erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:44 -0600
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 18:01 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:10 -0500
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 03:18 +0000
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-26 14:37 +0000
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 15:55 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 13:23 +0000
Re: IPad and erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:42 -0600
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 18:00 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-23 10:49 +1100
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 14:36 -0500
Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-24 09:02 +1100
Re: IPad and salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2014-01-24 03:01 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 22:24 -0500
Re: IPad and salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2014-01-25 04:04 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 23:15 -0500
Re: IPad and salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2014-01-26 02:32 +0000
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 18:47 +0000
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-22 10:17 +0000
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 16:46 +0000
Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-23 02:22 +0000
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-23 14:50 +0000
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 14:36 -0500
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-22 21:10 +0000
Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 20:00 -0500
Re: IPad and bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-19 10:48 -0600
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 15:53 -0500
Re: IPad and bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-19 19:21 -0600
Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-20 09:13 +1100
Re: IPad and bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-19 19:21 -0600
Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-20 13:43 +1100
Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 18:59 +0000
Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 19:58 -0500
Re: IPad and Francesco Peeters <francesco@fampeeters.com> - 2014-01-21 08:45 +0100
Re: IPad and Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-19 14:30 -0500
Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 19:59 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 12:31 -0800
Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-19 22:32 +0000
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-19 18:36 -0800
Re: IPad and Maurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> - 2014-01-21 10:13 +1000
Re: IPad and Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-20 19:31 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:57 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 20:30 -0500
Re: IPad and Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-20 22:19 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:38 -0800
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 00:08 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 23:01 -0800
Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 18:30 +1300
Re: IPad and DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2014-01-22 23:02 -0800
Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-24 09:34 +1300
Re: IPad and DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2014-01-23 14:47 -0800
Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-24 13:52 +1300
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:31 -0800
Re: IPad and George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:11 -0600
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 20:14 -0500
Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 17:16 -0800
Re: IPad and George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-21 17:06 -0600
Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-21 14:26 +1100
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 00:09 -0500
Re: IPad and Francesco Peeters <francesco@fampeeters.com> - 2014-01-21 08:39 +0100
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
Re: IPad and Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2014-01-22 10:12 +0000
Re: IPad and Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2014-01-27 12:41 -0500
Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
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| From | Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-25 18:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <r1ha8r4i28.fsf@ethel.the.log> |
| In reply to | #30169 |
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> writes: > In article <554n4rg3cz.fsf@ethel.the.log>, > Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: > > > nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes: > > > > > >"Backups don't contain content synced to the device, such as movies, > > >music, podcasts, and apps." > > > > ><http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4946?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US> > > > > I realize you would rather continue to insist black is white than > > admit you are wrong, but for the record... > > The music in iTunes is the source; it doesn't NEED an extra "backup" That is true. And that is the _reason_ that iTunes doesn't back up your music. And if you keep your music on your device synced with your computer, that is fine. But if you don't, it would be nice to be able to back up the music (and other media) on your device. There is no way to do that with iTunes though.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-25 22:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <250120142210235833%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #30178 |
In article <r1ha8r4i28.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: > > The music in iTunes is the source; it doesn't NEED an extra "backup" > > That is true. And that is the _reason_ that iTunes doesn't back up > your music. no, that's the reason that itunes doesn't copy it a second time, because it doesn't need to. it's also why time machine doesn't copy files that are already on the time machine archive and why other backup utilities don't copy files already in the backup set. but this concept is totally lost on you.
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| From | Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lc346i$j5u$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30189 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <r1ha8r4i28.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson > <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> The music in iTunes is the source; it doesn't NEED an extra "backup" >> >> That is true. And that is the _reason_ that iTunes doesn't back up >> your music. > > no, that's the reason that itunes doesn't copy it a second time, > because it doesn't need to. > > it's also why time machine doesn't copy files that are already on the > time machine archive and why other backup utilities don't copy files > already in the backup set. > Hadn't thought about that 8-). That's why I sometimes see it running longer than others. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-26 03:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bkjd3uF3qa4U9@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #30169 |
On 2014-01-26, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: > In article <554n4rg3cz.fsf@ethel.the.log>, > Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: > >> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes: >> > >> >"Backups don't contain content synced to the device, such as movies, >> >music, podcasts, and apps." >> >> ><http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4946?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US> >> >> I realize you would rather continue to insist black is white than >> admit you are wrong, but for the record... > > The music in iTunes is the source; it doesn't NEED an extra "backup" Anyone who has purchased and downloaded music directly on their iOS device knows this is not the case. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <lc346i$j5u$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #30191 |
Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-01-26, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: >> In article <554n4rg3cz.fsf@ethel.the.log>, >> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes: >>> >> >>>> "Backups don't contain content synced to the device, such as movies, >>>> music, podcasts, and apps." >>> >>>> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4946?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US> >>> >>> I realize you would rather continue to insist black is white than >>> admit you are wrong, but for the record... >> >> The music in iTunes is the source; it doesn't NEED an extra "backup" > > Anyone who has purchased and downloaded music directly on their iOS > device knows this is not the case. I was thinking I'd done that, but it would have been a single song from the Apple Store, it would end up on the laptop eventually, I suspect. Unless I did that, too. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist with iPad
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-01-26 14:37 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlea7cg.4tm.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #30191 |
In message <bkjd3uF3qa4U9@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-01-26, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: >> In article <554n4rg3cz.fsf@ethel.the.log>, >> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes: >>> >> >>> >"Backups don't contain content synced to the device, such as movies, >>> >music, podcasts, and apps." >>> >>> ><http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4946?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US> >>> >>> I realize you would rather continue to insist black is white than >>> admit you are wrong, but for the record... >> >> The music in iTunes is the source; it doesn't NEED an extra "backup" > Anyone who has purchased and downloaded music directly on their iOS > device knows this is not the case. But you can pull purchased music off "the cloud" even if it's not physically present on any of your devices. -- Oh, no! Not *ANOTHER* learning experience!
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-26 15:55 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <bkkpf8Fccv0U5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #30209 |
On 2014-01-26, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > In message <bkjd3uF3qa4U9@mid.individual.net> > Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> On 2014-01-26, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: >>> In article <554n4rg3cz.fsf@ethel.the.log>, >>> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes: >>>> >>> >>>> >"Backups don't contain content synced to the device, such as movies, >>>> >music, podcasts, and apps." >>>> >>>> ><http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4946?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US> >>>> >>>> I realize you would rather continue to insist black is white than >>>> admit you are wrong, but for the record... >>> >>> The music in iTunes is the source; it doesn't NEED an extra "backup" > >> Anyone who has purchased and downloaded music directly on their iOS >> device knows this is not the case. > > But you can pull purchased music off "the cloud" even if it's not > physically present on any of your devices. That's irrelevant to the current conversation. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <260120141457281296%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #30214 |
In article <bkkpf8Fccv0U5@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > > But you can pull purchased music off "the cloud" even if it's not > > physically present on any of your devices. > > That's irrelevant to the current conversation. it's not irrelevant at all. the cloud is part of the backup for many users. apple even touts the cloud as a backup method. users do not care *where* something is backed up. what they care about is can they restore should they need to, and they most certainly can. they don't care if music is in a backup folder or in the music library or in the cloud. all they care about is when they plug in a new device, they can restore it from a backup and apps *and* music and everything else is restored.
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| From | Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> |
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| Date | 2014-01-27 13:23 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnlecnfe.rt4.g.kreme@amelia.local> |
| In reply to | #30214 |
In message <bkkpf8Fccv0U5@mid.individual.net> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > On 2014-01-26, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: >> In message <bkjd3uF3qa4U9@mid.individual.net> >> Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >>> On 2014-01-26, erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> wrote: >>>> In article <554n4rg3cz.fsf@ethel.the.log>, >>>> Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> writes: >>>>> >>>> >>>>> >"Backups don't contain content synced to the device, such as movies, >>>>> >music, podcasts, and apps." >>>>> >>>>> ><http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4946?viewlocale=en_US&locale=en_US> >>>>> >>>>> I realize you would rather continue to insist black is white than >>>>> admit you are wrong, but for the record... >>>> >>>> The music in iTunes is the source; it doesn't NEED an extra "backup" >> >>> Anyone who has purchased and downloaded music directly on their iOS >>> device knows this is not the case. >> >> But you can pull purchased music off "the cloud" even if it's not >> physically present on any of your devices. > That's irrelevant to the current conversation. No it's not, the music you bought will be restored to your iOS device by iTunes as part of the restore process. -- Let him who desires peace, prepare for war.
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| From | erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-25 19:42 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <drache-274CBC.19425825012014@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #30136 |
In article <uz4n4rudd5.fsf@ethel.the.log>, Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: > If your iPad media is synced to the computer, it usually doesn't matter that > iTunes doesn't back it up. If your iPad media is not synced to your > computer, it would be good to have the option to back up media (one > doesn't). This doesn't make sense. I've read it three times and still can't figure out your complaint 8-) On the other hand, I've been playing with iTunes for several years now; this is the second computer generation I've had it on(I'm on the laptop rather than the iPad at the moment). I even know how to get at the files sideways.* Do you? *sideways is my term; it probably doesn't make sense to others. -- Erilar, biblioholic medievalist
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| From | Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-25 18:00 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <6smwij4i4m.fsf@ethel.the.log> |
| In reply to | #30168 |
erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> writes: > In article <uz4n4rudd5.fsf@ethel.the.log>, > Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> wrote: > > > If your iPad media is synced to the computer, it usually doesn't matter that > > iTunes doesn't back it up. If your iPad media is not synced to your > > computer, it would be good to have the option to back up media (one > > doesn't). > > This doesn't make sense. I've read it three times and still can't figure > out your complaint 8-) I mainly am not complaining. I am mainly pointing out that iTunes does not back up everything on iPads and iPhones. In particular it doesn't back up (as Apple tells us) music and media. There are other things it doesn't back up too. You can easily avoid noticing this if you keep your media on your iPad synced with your computer, but it is still true.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <250120141441430656%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #30119 |
In article <slrnle73on.31gj.g.kreme@amelia.local>, Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> wrote: > > iTunes simply does not back up certain things. Some of those things > > are music, audiobooks and podcasts. > > Because those should already be in iTunes. It would be stupid to backed > them up when they can be restored from the iTunes Library. since they are already in the itunes library, they are not *copied* a second time because it is a waste of time. they're already backed up. again, restore a new device and music and movies are copied to it. it's easy to do.
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-23 10:49 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-55D60A.10492423012014@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #30049 |
In article <220120141255412084%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <lbm5aq$b71$1@dont-email.me>, Erilar > <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote: > > > ITunes on a Mac is so simple (as long as the asinine "genius" garbage is > > off) that it's hard to understand the complaints > > most of the complaints are from people who don't use it. > > if you notice, they don't actually say *why* they don't like it. Probably because it looks to them like too steep a learning curve, they might know that if they really studied its ins and outs, it would be useful. But, from their level of knowledge, it *looks to them* like that even if they did know a lot, it might not lose its complicated bothersome. -- dorayme
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-23 14:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <230120141436369326%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #30055 |
In article <do_ray_me-55D60A.10492423012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > ITunes on a Mac is so simple (as long as the asinine "genius" garbage is > > > off) that it's hard to understand the complaints > > > > most of the complaints are from people who don't use it. > > > > if you notice, they don't actually say *why* they don't like it. > > Probably because it looks to them like too steep a learning curve, what learning curve? it's easier than managing assets by using a file manager. > they might know that if they really studied its ins and outs, it would > be useful. But, from their level of knowledge, it *looks to them* like > that even if they did know a lot, it might not lose its complicated > bothersome. itunes is easier since it does so much stuff *for* you. oddly enough, that turns out to be one reason why some people hate it, because they don't want to accept the fact that a machine can do a better job than they can.
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| From | dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> |
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| Date | 2014-01-24 09:02 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <do_ray_me-2A988C.09024224012014@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #30061 |
In article <230120141436369326%nospam@nospam.invalid>, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <do_ray_me-55D60A.10492423012014@news.albasani.net>, dorayme > <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> wrote: > > > > > ITunes on a Mac is so simple (as long as the asinine "genius" garbage is > > > > off) that it's hard to understand the complaints > > > > > > most of the complaints are from people who don't use it. > > > > > > if you notice, they don't actually say *why* they don't like it. > > > > Probably because it looks to them like too steep a learning curve, > > what learning curve? it's easier than managing assets by using a file > manager. > If you don't believe there is a learning curve and want to compare them, propose a test for a statistically signifiant batch of people (you give the program to them for their first time) to judge it on. I will assess your proposal and if it checks out we will have a bet and organise the test. > > they might know that if they really studied its ins and outs, it would > > be useful. But, from their level of knowledge, it *looks to them* like > > that even if they did know a lot, it might not lose its complicated > > bothersome. > > itunes is easier since it does so much stuff *for* you. > > oddly enough, that turns out to be one reason why some people hate it, > because they don't want to accept the fact that a machine can do a > better job than they can. "some people" could mean just one cranky person. I doubt it would be true for most or even many. Who would not want a tool that does lots of different things really well and silently with minimal effort by them? -- dorayme
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| From | salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2014-01-24 03:01 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <780856770412221916.047294spamboy6547-comcast.net@nntp.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #30049 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article <lbm5aq$b71$1@dont-email.me>, Erilar > <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> wrote: > >> ITunes on a Mac is so simple (as long as the asinine "genius" garbage is >> off) that it's hard to understand the complaints > > most of the complaints are from people who don't use it. > > if you notice, they don't actually say *why* they don't like it. Actually, the OP was quite clear about why he didn't like it. He said he said he had a horrible time removing it in the past. Others have given very lucid descriptions for why they don't like iTunes, but you have to be willing to read and remember. If you don't want to hear it, you won't.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-23 22:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <230120142224484802%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #30072 |
In article <780856770412221916.047294spamboy6547-comcast.net@nntp.aioe.org>, salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote: > >> ITunes on a Mac is so simple (as long as the asinine "genius" garbage is > >> off) that it's hard to understand the complaints > > > > most of the complaints are from people who don't use it. > > > > if you notice, they don't actually say *why* they don't like it. > > Actually, the OP was quite clear about why he didn't like it. He said he > said he had a horrible time removing it in the past. which means he didn't use it. he said he removed it because someone *else* asked him to, and his reason for disliking it was the difficulty he had in removing it. how easy or difficult it is to remove an app is not a reason to dislike something. he also didn't follow apple's steps to remove it and presumably did something wrong in the process. he also incorrectly assumed that the various components serve no purpose. they're there for a reason and are required for itunes to do what it does. > Others have given very > lucid descriptions for why they don't like iTunes, but you have to be > willing to read and remember. If you don't want to hear it, you won't. very, very rarely. usually it's 'itunes sucks' without specifics or they claim that itunes did something without their consent, which it will never do. i've seen people complain that it deletes music or that it rearranges the hard drive without asking. both are completely false. it will *always* ask and if the user does not consent, it will not do it. in other words itunes did what the user told it to do. disliking software because it did what you told it to do is a very odd reason to dislike something.
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| From | salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2014-01-25 04:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2024740056412307184.267197spamboy6547-comcast.net@nntp.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #30073 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: > In article > <780856770412221916.047294spamboy6547-comcast.net@nntp.aioe.org>, > salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote: > >>>> ITunes on a Mac is so simple (as long as the asinine "genius" garbage is >>>> off) that it's hard to understand the complaints >>> >>> most of the complaints are from people who don't use it. >>> >>> if you notice, they don't actually say *why* they don't like it. >> >> Actually, the OP was quite clear about why he didn't like it. He said he >> said he had a horrible time removing it in the past. > > which means he didn't use it. > > he said he removed it because someone *else* asked him to, and his > reason for disliking it was the difficulty he had in removing it. > > how easy or difficult it is to remove an app is not a reason to dislike > something. Very interesting! It's wonderful to know that we have you to refer to whenever we want to know whether we should like or dislike software. Do you have some kind of list of reasons why it's okay to like or dislike software? Maybe you have such lists for things like televisions, cars, or even friends! Please, share more of these deep insights for the rest of us who are less gifted!
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2014-01-24 23:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <240120142315567879%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #30111 |
In article <2024740056412307184.267197spamboy6547-comcast.net@nntp.aioe.org>, salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> wrote: > >>>> ITunes on a Mac is so simple (as long as the asinine "genius" garbage is > >>>> off) that it's hard to understand the complaints > >>> > >>> most of the complaints are from people who don't use it. > >>> > >>> if you notice, they don't actually say *why* they don't like it. > >> > >> Actually, the OP was quite clear about why he didn't like it. He said he > >> said he had a horrible time removing it in the past. > > > > which means he didn't use it. > > > > he said he removed it because someone *else* asked him to, and his > > reason for disliking it was the difficulty he had in removing it. > > > > how easy or difficult it is to remove an app is not a reason to dislike > > something. > > Very interesting! It's wonderful to know that we have you to refer to > whenever we want to know whether we should like or dislike software. Do you > have some kind of list of reasons why it's okay to like or dislike > software? Maybe you have such lists for things like televisions, cars, or > even friends! Please, share more of these deep insights for the rest of us > who are less gifted! the only list is that you need to actually use something to be able to decide if you like it or not. do you dislike a television set by how easy it is to carry it to the landfill, without ever having watched a tv show on it? or that the mere presence of a tv in one room (even if it's off) might affect a refrigerator in another room? because that's basically what the other poster is saying.
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| From | salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> |
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| Date | 2014-01-26 02:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20382347412396010.015253spamboy6547-comcast.net@nntp.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #30112 |
nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote: >>> how easy or difficult it is to remove an app is not a reason to dislike >>> something. >> >> Very interesting! It's wonderful to know that we have you to refer to >> whenever we want to know whether we should like or dislike software. Do you >> have some kind of list of reasons why it's okay to like or dislike >> software? Maybe you have such lists for things like televisions, cars, or >> even friends! Please, share more of these deep insights for the rest of us >> who are less gifted! > > the only list is that you need to actually use something to be able to > decide if you like it or not. > Interesting advice. Does this mean I need to go and shoot up some heroin?
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