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IPad and

Started byMaurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net>
First post2014-01-19 15:56 +1000
Last post2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
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  IPad and Maurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> - 2014-01-19 15:56 +1000
    Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 01:08 -0500
      Re: IPad and Maurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> - 2014-01-19 16:39 +1000
        Re: IPad and Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2014-01-19 09:35 +0000
          Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-19 07:49 -0800
            Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 15:53 -0500
              Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-19 16:21 -0800
                Re: IPad and AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-01-19 21:17 -0500
                  Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-19 21:12 -0800
                  Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-22 10:20 +0000
                    Re: IPad and AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-01-22 11:02 -0500
                      Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-22 10:18 -0800
                        Re: IPad and AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2014-01-22 18:19 -0500
                          Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-22 15:22 -0800
                      Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-23 02:19 +0000
                Re: IPad and Ed Propes <top1sg@suddenlink.net> - 2014-01-24 00:27 -0600
        Re: IPad and Earl Grey <earl@t.net> - 2014-01-19 12:37 -0500
        Re: IPad and George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-19 11:57 -0600
        Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 15:52 -0500
    Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-19 19:34 +1300
    Re: IPad and Maurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> - 2014-01-19 17:10 +1000
    Re: IPad and David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2014-01-19 07:26 +0000
      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 15:53 -0500
    Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-19 09:06 +0000
    Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 11:11 -0500
      Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-19 22:32 +0000
        Re: IPad and Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-19 19:56 -0500
          Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 20:06 -0500
          Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-20 13:24 +1100
          Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-20 15:27 +0000
            Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 09:05 +1300
              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 15:20 -0500
                Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-21 15:56 +0000
                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-22 12:55 -0500
                    Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-22 11:29 -0800
                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 14:36 -0500
                        Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 15:21 -0800
                          Re: IPad and dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-24 12:55 +1300
                            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 16:08 -0800
                              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 21:50 -0500
                          Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 21:50 -0500
                            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-23 23:52 -0800
                              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 12:13 -0500
                                Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-24 10:28 -0800
                                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 15:59 -0500
                                    Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-24 14:11 -0800
                                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 18:47 -0500
                                        Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-24 16:39 -0800
                                          Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 22:11 -0500
                                            Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-25 13:36 +0000
                                              Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 10:22 -0800
                                                Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
                                          Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-25 04:54 +0000
                                            Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
                                              Re: IPad and dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-26 20:59 +1300
                                                Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
                                  Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-25 10:16 +0000
                                    Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-25 13:36 +0000
                                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
                                    Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 10:26 -0800
                                      Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-25 19:12 +0000
                                        Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
                                        Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 13:21 -0800
                                          Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 16:28 -0500
                                            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 13:30 -0800
                                              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 16:36 -0500
                                                Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 17:58 -0800
                                                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:10 -0500
                                                    Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 03:25 +0000
                                                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:55 -0500
                                                        Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 05:09 +0000
                                                      Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-26 14:35 +0000
                                                        Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 15:53 +0000
                                                          Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
                                                            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-26 12:07 -0800
                                                              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:05 -0500
                                                                Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 19:22 +0000
                                                                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                                Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 14:10 -0800
                                                                  Re: IPad and dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2014-01-28 17:31 +1300
                                                                    Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 21:27 -0800
                                                                      Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-28 13:34 +0000
                                                                    Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                          Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 13:22 +0000
                                          Re: IPad and erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:46 -0600
                                            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 18:02 -0800
                                              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:10 -0500
                                                Re: IPad and DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2014-01-27 01:17 -0800
                                          Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-26 14:32 +0000
                                            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-26 08:10 -0800
                                              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
                                                Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-26 12:13 -0800
                                                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:05 -0500
                                              Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 13:17 +0000
                                                Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 05:48 -0800
                                                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500
                                                  Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 18:34 +0000
                                                    Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-27 19:26 +0000
                                                      Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-28 00:31 +0000
                                                        Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 00:47 +0000
                                                          Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                        Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 17:08 -0800
                                                          Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-28 16:59 +0000
                                                            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 09:08 -0800
                                                            Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-28 17:12 +0000
                                                              Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-28 09:14 -0800
                                                                Re: IPad and "zulu" <zulu.romeotangohotel@ntlworld.com> - 2014-01-28 22:13 +0000
                                                                Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                              Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-29 16:02 +0000
                                                                Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-29 17:39 +0000
                                                                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                                  Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-29 14:57 -0800
                                                                    Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-29 15:00 -0800
                                                                      Re: IPad and Carl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net> - 2014-01-29 15:03 -0800
                                                                  Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-30 13:32 +0000
                                                                    Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-30 15:11 +0000
                                                                    Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-30 08:57 -0800
                                                                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 13:49 -0500
                                                                    Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-30 13:49 -0500
                                                                Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                          Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                        Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                                    Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 14:12 -0800
                                                      Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-28 00:32 +0000
                                                        Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-27 17:10 -0800
                                                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-29 14:42 -0500
                                        Re: IPad and erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:46 -0600
                                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
                                        Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 13:26 -0800
                                          Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 16:31 -0500
                                            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 17:57 -0800
                                              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:10 -0500
                                                Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 03:21 +0000
                                                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:55 -0500
                                                    Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 05:20 +0000
                                                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
                                          Re: IPad and erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:44 -0600
                                            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 18:01 -0800
                                              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 22:10 -0500
                                                Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
                                            Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 03:18 +0000
                                              Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-26 13:56 +0000
                                              Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-26 14:37 +0000
                                                Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-26 15:55 +0000
                                                  Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-26 14:57 -0500
                                                  Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-27 13:23 +0000
                                      Re: IPad and erilar <drache@chibardun.net.invalid> - 2014-01-25 19:42 -0600
                                        Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-25 18:00 -0800
                                    Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-25 14:41 -0500
                    Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-23 10:49 +1100
                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 14:36 -0500
                        Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-24 09:02 +1100
                    Re: IPad and salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2014-01-24 03:01 +0000
                      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 22:24 -0500
                        Re: IPad and salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2014-01-25 04:04 +0000
                          Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-24 23:15 -0500
                            Re: IPad and salgud <spamboy6547@comcast.net> - 2014-01-26 02:32 +0000
          Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-20 18:47 +0000
            Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-22 10:17 +0000
              Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-22 16:46 +0000
                Re: IPad and Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2014-01-23 02:22 +0000
                  Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-23 14:50 +0000
                    Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-23 14:36 -0500
              Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-22 21:10 +0000
        Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 20:00 -0500
    Re: IPad and bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-19 10:48 -0600
      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-19 15:53 -0500
        Re: IPad and bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-19 19:21 -0600
      Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-20 09:13 +1100
        Re: IPad and bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2014-01-19 19:21 -0600
          Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-20 13:43 +1100
    Re: IPad and Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-01-19 18:59 +0000
      Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 19:58 -0500
        Re: IPad and Francesco Peeters <francesco@fampeeters.com> - 2014-01-21 08:45 +0100
    Re: IPad and Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-19 14:30 -0500
      Re: IPad and Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2014-01-19 19:59 -0500
      Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 12:31 -0800
    Re: IPad and Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2014-01-19 22:32 +0000
    Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-19 18:36 -0800
    Re: IPad and Maurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> - 2014-01-21 10:13 +1000
      Re: IPad and Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-20 19:31 -0500
        Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:57 -0800
          Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 20:30 -0500
          Re: IPad and Davoud <star@sky.net> - 2014-01-20 22:19 -0500
            Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:38 -0800
              Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 00:08 -0500
                Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 23:01 -0800
              Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-21 18:30 +1300
            Re: IPad and DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2014-01-22 23:02 -0800
              Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-24 09:34 +1300
                Re: IPad and DevilsPGD <boogabooga@crazyhat.net> - 2014-01-23 14:47 -0800
                  Re: IPad and Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-01-24 13:52 +1300
      Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 16:31 -0800
      Re: IPad and George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-20 19:11 -0600
      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-20 20:14 -0500
        Re: IPad and Doug Anderson <ethelthelogremovethis@gmail.com> - 2014-01-20 17:16 -0800
        Re: IPad and George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2014-01-21 17:06 -0600
      Re: IPad and dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2014-01-21 14:26 +1100
        Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 00:09 -0500
      Re: IPad and Francesco Peeters <francesco@fampeeters.com> - 2014-01-21 08:39 +0100
        Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-21 04:46 -0500
    Re: IPad and Brian <bclark@es.co.nz> - 2014-01-22 10:12 +0000
    Re: IPad and Zaidy036 <Zaidy036@isp.spam> - 2014-01-27 12:41 -0500
      Re: IPad and nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-01-27 13:06 -0500

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#29983 — IPad and

FromMaurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net>
Date2014-01-19 15:56 +1000
SubjectIPad and
Message-ID<lbfpea$mk8$1@dont-email.me>
My wife is wanting to buy one of these -- a 10 inch screen

What does she have to have installed on her laptop to communicate with 
the Ipad. I am referring to transferring files to and from the Ipad.

I wish to avoid using iTunes at all costs, if possible.
-- 
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Maurice Helwig
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#29984

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-19 01:08 -0500
Message-ID<190120140108490622%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#29983
In article <lbfpea$mk8$1@dont-email.me>, Maurice Helwig
<maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> wrote:

> My wife is wanting to buy one of these -- a 10 inch screen
> 
> What does she have to have installed on her laptop to communicate with 
> the Ipad. I am referring to transferring files to and from the Ipad.

itunes.

> I wish to avoid using iTunes at all costs, if possible.

why?

she could use any of a number of cloud services but it may be slower,
particularly for larger files, like movies. it can be more convenient,
however. dropbox is one such option. many apps have cloud syncing
options, either their own or via dropbox or other cloud services.

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#29986

FromMaurice Helwig <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net>
Date2014-01-19 16:39 +1000
Message-ID<lbfrup$ii$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#29984
On 19/01/2014 4:08 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <lbfpea$mk8$1@dont-email.me>, Maurice Helwig
> <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> wrote:
>
>> My wife is wanting to buy one of these -- a 10 inch screen
>>
>> What does she have to have installed on her laptop to communicate with
>> the Ipad. I am referring to transferring files to and from the Ipad.
>
> itunes.
>
>> I wish to avoid using iTunes at all costs, if possible.
>
> why?
>
> she could use any of a number of cloud services but it may be slower,
> particularly for larger files, like movies. it can be more convenient,
> however. dropbox is one such option. many apps have cloud syncing
> options, either their own or via dropbox or other cloud services.
>
I had the job of removing iTunes from one of my Granddaughter's 
computers a few years ago. It was like a octopus -- stuff everywhere -- 
  which was not removed by the uninstaller so I had to manually remove 
the leftovers and generally cleanup. I decided then that Itunes was off 
my install list.

Apart from the uninstaller problem, I found that it invaded the computer 
and reorganized a perfectly good filing system and wanted to take you to 
the apple store every time it was opened to encourage you to buy something.

How the current version of iTunes functions I do not know but I will be 
looking for an alternative.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maurice Helwig
~~~~~~~~~~~~

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#29990

FromPeter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk>
Date2014-01-19 09:35 +0000
Message-ID<sq6dndrSfJrSAUbPnZ2dnUVZ8l2dnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>
In reply to#29986
On 19/01/2014 06:39, Maurice Helwig wrote:
> On 19/01/2014 4:08 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <lbfpea$mk8$1@dont-email.me>, Maurice Helwig
>> <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife is wanting to buy one of these -- a 10 inch screen
>>>
>>> What does she have to have installed on her laptop to communicate with
>>> the Ipad. I am referring to transferring files to and from the Ipad.
>>
>> itunes.
>>
>>> I wish to avoid using iTunes at all costs, if possible.
>>
>> why?
>>
>> she could use any of a number of cloud services but it may be slower,
>> particularly for larger files, like movies. it can be more convenient,
>> however. dropbox is one such option. many apps have cloud syncing
>> options, either their own or via dropbox or other cloud services.
>>
> I had the job of removing iTunes from one of my Granddaughter's
> computers a few years ago. It was like a octopus -- stuff everywhere --
>   which was not removed by the uninstaller so I had to manually remove
> the leftovers and generally cleanup. I decided then that Itunes was off
> my install list.
>
> Apart from the uninstaller problem, I found that it invaded the computer
> and reorganized a perfectly good filing system and wanted to take you to
> the apple store every time it was opened to encourage you to buy something.
>
> How the current version of iTunes functions I do not know but I will be
> looking for an alternative.

Try and put your prejudices to one side. The current version is not 
perfect but it does do the job. A few minutes effort in setting it up 
with the preferences you want pays dividends.


-- 
Peter Crosland

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#29991

FromCarl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net>
Date2014-01-19 07:49 -0800
Message-ID<1prnd9ht3e61ejn4o83p6jdm916d267gnu@4ax.com>
In reply to#29990
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:35:11 +0000, Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>Try and put your prejudices to one side. The current version is not 
>perfect but it does do the job. A few minutes effort in setting it up 
>with the preferences you want pays dividends.

Unfortunately, it doesn't work properly for me.  It locks on any synch I
attempt to make with my iPad Air either when searching for items to be updated
or contacting Apple Store.  The problem with collections in iBooks has still
not been resolved and I reported the problem to Apple just after the new
version of iBooks was released.  A recent call to the Apple tech I've been
working with says that he's received no further reply from the developers.

I don't know if the iTunes problem is related to the iBooks problem and he
doesn't either.

Saying that something doesn't work properly isn't "prejudice", it's reality.

I hope the iBooks problem is resolved and, hope to have a more positive
attitude about iTunes and iBooks.  At present, I can recommend neither.

I'm considering using the Marvin app being fed by Calibre if Apple is unable
to resolve these problems since my primary use of an iPad is as a reader.  The
abilities to interact with the web and email are just convenient add-ons for
me.
-- 
Carl Heinz
cfheinz57@charter.net
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#29999

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-19 15:53 -0500
Message-ID<190120141553033841%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#29991
In article <1prnd9ht3e61ejn4o83p6jdm916d267gnu@4ax.com>, Carl Heinz
<cfheinz57@charter.net> wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 09:35:11 +0000, Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> >Try and put your prejudices to one side. The current version is not 
> >perfect but it does do the job. A few minutes effort in setting it up 
> >with the preferences you want pays dividends.
> 
> Unfortunately, it doesn't work properly for me.  It locks on any synch I
> attempt to make with my iPad Air either when searching for items to be updated
> or contacting Apple Store. 

take it to an apple store and have them take a look at it.

you could try a reinstall, since it sounds like a driver issue. 

> The problem with collections in iBooks has still
> not been resolved and I reported the problem to Apple just after the new
> version of iBooks was released.  A recent call to the Apple tech I've been
> working with says that he's received no further reply from the developers.

what problem with ibooks?

> I don't know if the iTunes problem is related to the iBooks problem and he
> doesn't either.
> 
> Saying that something doesn't work properly isn't "prejudice", it's reality.

it's not perfect but the original poster wants to avoid it at all costs
which just makes using an ipad more of a pain in the ass.

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#30005

FromCarl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net>
Date2014-01-19 16:21 -0800
Message-ID<nfqod9ldpljffsnti3m2ugph51uji59j59@4ax.com>
In reply to#29999
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:53:03 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:

>> The problem with collections in iBooks has still
>> not been resolved and I reported the problem to Apple just after the new
>> version of iBooks was released.  A recent call to the Apple tech I've been
>> working with says that he's received no further reply from the developers.
>
>what problem with ibooks?

This was discussed a while back, but to recap, the new version of iBooks
couldn't handle the number of Collections I use.  I have an extensive ebook
collection divided into Collections by author.  In the case of authors having
series with a number of books, I separated out the series within author into
separate collections.  After installing the current version of iBooks, the
last thirty or so collections appeared as blank entries and I'm unable to
access the books in them, nor am I able to reload them.  iTunes locks when
attempting to synch.  I've reported my experiments to overcome the problem to
Apple tech support and I've been told that my findings have been reported to
the developers.  This was not a problem in the prior versions of iBooks having
the Collections function, and I've been using the Collections function since
it was first made a part of iBooks.
-- 
Carl Heinz
cfheinz57@charter.net
(Remove number)

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#30013

FromAV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net>
Date2014-01-19 21:17 -0500
Message-ID<lbi0vp$9rp$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#30005
On Jan/19/2014 7:2144 PM, Carl Heinz wrote:
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:53:03 -0500, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
>
>>> The problem with collections in iBooks has still
>>> not been resolved and I reported the problem to Apple just after the new
>>> version of iBooks was released.  A recent call to the Apple tech I've been
>>> working with says that he's received no further reply from the developers.
>>
>> what problem with ibooks?
>
> This was discussed a while back, but to recap, the new version of iBooks
> couldn't handle the number of Collections I use.  I have an extensive ebook
> collection divided into Collections by author.  In the case of authors having
> series with a number of books, I separated out the series within author into
> separate collections.  After installing the current version of iBooks, the
> last thirty or so collections appeared as blank entries and I'm unable to
> access the books in them, nor am I able to reload them.  iTunes locks when
> attempting to synch.  I've reported my experiments to overcome the problem to
> Apple tech support and I've been told that my findings have been reported to
> the developers.  This was not a problem in the prior versions of iBooks having
> the Collections function, and I've been using the Collections function since
> it was first made a part of iBooks.


I hope you don't think this is picky, but I have over a thousand books 
and magazines, about 60% pdf's and the rest eBooks, all organized by 
category. I created most of the categories myself and overwrote 
pre-assigned categories. I also overwrote author's names in order to 
have them in uniform format, last name(s) first. A few eBooks have been 
translated from other formats by Calibre. I have not encountered the 
problem you mention.


How many books do you have and in what format? Have you made changes to 
entries for your own purposes? These factors ought not to make any 
difference, but they might have triggered a bug.


-- 
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||Arnold VICTOR, New York City, i. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net>    ||
||Arnoldo VIKTORO, Nov-jorkurbo, t. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net>   ||
||Remove capital letters from e-mail address for correct address/    ||
||    Forigu majusklajn literojn el e-poŝta adreso por ĝusta adreso  ||
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#30017

FromCarl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net>
Date2014-01-19 21:12 -0800
Message-ID<63bpd95epjmboj38g18j4kp3ua2spep93c@4ax.com>
In reply to#30013
On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 21:17:28 -0500, AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I hope you don't think this is picky, but I have over a thousand books 
>and magazines, about 60% pdf's and the rest eBooks, all organized by 
>category. I created most of the categories myself and overwrote 
>pre-assigned categories. I also overwrote author's names in order to 
>have them in uniform format, last name(s) first. A few eBooks have been 
>translated from other formats by Calibre. I have not encountered the 
>problem you mention.
>
>
>How many books do you have and in what format? Have you made changes to 
>entries for your own purposes? These factors ought not to make any 
>difference, but they might have triggered a bug.
>
I think the last tally was around 2,300.  The Collections function in the new
version seems to only be able to handle around 130 collections.  The balance
appeared as blank entries and the related books couldn't be accessed.  But,
the point is that prior the current update to iBooks, there was no problem.
They are all EPUB with an handfull of PDF's for such things as my iPad manual.

Being an old RPG programmer (IT manager/senior programmen/analyst for over
thirty years), we occasionally encountered index errors.  This happened when
we hadn't allocated a sufficient number of "buckets".  Since I've no PC or app
programming experience, I don't know if app programming uses similar
structures.

I've spent quite a bit of time with tech support and I'm told that I'm not the
only one to have encountered problems with the current iBooks.  The tech
support guy I've been working with has been good about recording my attempts
at diagnosis (experiments) and relaying them to the developers.  At present,
it's in the hands of the developers.
-- 
Carl Heinz
cfheinz57@charter.net
(Remove number)

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#30045

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-01-22 10:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnldv6qq.1891.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#30013
In message <lbi0vp$9rp$1@news.albasani.net> 
  AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Jan/19/2014 7:2144 PM, Carl Heinz wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:53:03 -0500, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>  wrote:
>>
>>>> The problem with collections in iBooks has still
>>>> not been resolved and I reported the problem to Apple just after the new
>>>> version of iBooks was released.  A recent call to the Apple tech I've been
>>>> working with says that he's received no further reply from the developers.
>>>
>>> what problem with ibooks?
>>
>> This was discussed a while back, but to recap, the new version of iBooks
>> couldn't handle the number of Collections I use.  I have an extensive ebook
>> collection divided into Collections by author.  In the case of authors having
>> series with a number of books, I separated out the series within author into
>> separate collections.  After installing the current version of iBooks, the
>> last thirty or so collections appeared as blank entries and I'm unable to
>> access the books in them, nor am I able to reload them.  iTunes locks when
>> attempting to synch.  I've reported my experiments to overcome the problem to
>> Apple tech support and I've been told that my findings have been reported to
>> the developers.  This was not a problem in the prior versions of iBooks having
>> the Collections function, and I've been using the Collections function since
>> it was first made a part of iBooks.


> I hope you don't think this is picky, but I have over a thousand books 
> and magazines, about 60% pdf's and the rest eBooks, all organized by 
> category. I created most of the categories myself and overwrote 
> pre-assigned categories. I also overwrote author's names in order to 
> have them in uniform format, last name(s) first. A few eBooks have been 
> translated from other formats by Calibre. I have not encountered the 
> problem you mention.

He has over 100 Category lists in iBooks.

> How many books do you have and in what format? Have you made changes to 
> entries for your own purposes? These factors ought not to make any 
> difference, but they might have triggered a bug.

It's not the number of books, it the number of categories he creates for
those books.

-- 
You Bastard was thinking: ...Delta squared. Thus, dimensional pressure k
will result in a ninety-degree transformation in Chi(16/x/pu)t for a
K-bundle of any three invariables. Or four minutes, plus or minus ten
seconds...  The camel looked down at the great pads of his feet.  Let
speed equal gallop. --Pyramids

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#30046

FromAV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net>
Date2014-01-22 11:02 -0500
Message-ID<lboq3b$ons$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#30045
On Jan/22/2014 5:2010 AM, Lewis wrote:
> In message<lbi0vp$9rp$1@news.albasani.net>
>    AV3<arvimide@earthlink.net>  wrote:
>> On Jan/19/2014 7:2144 PM, Carl Heinz wrote:
>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:53:03 -0500, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>   wrote:
>>>
>>>>> ...
>
>> How many books do you have and in what format? Have you made changes to
>> entries for your own purposes? These factors ought not to make any
>> difference, but they might have triggered a bug.
>
> It's not the number of books, it the number of categories he creates for
> those books.
>


I have less than forty categories, my principal classification factor, 
but I didn't know there was a limit. What is it? Where is notice given 
about limits?


-- 
++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++
||Arnold VICTOR, New York City, i. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net>    ||
||Arnoldo VIKTORO, Nov-jorkurbo, t. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net>   ||
||Remove capital letters from e-mail address for correct address/    ||
||    Forigu majusklajn literojn el e-poŝta adreso por ĝusta adreso  ||
++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++

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#30050

FromCarl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net>
Date2014-01-22 10:18 -0800
Message-ID<ib20e9ppnk7r36jsmummltc32g93spol1a@4ax.com>
In reply to#30046
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:02:50 -0500, AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I have less than forty categories, my principal classification factor, 
>but I didn't know there was a limit. What is it? Where is notice given 
>about limits?

I received none, and there was no problem prior to the most recent change to
iBooks.  The Apple tech I've been working with has referred it to developers
as a problem.  The last call I had from the tech was that the developers were
still working on it but he didn't have a time frame for the fix.  As noted
before, the newest iBooks release displays the last roughly thirty categories
as blanks and the books associated with those categories can't be accessed on
my iPad although iTunes still shows them as being there.  It looks like
roughly 130 is the max in the current version.
-- 
Carl Heinz
cfheinz57@charter.net
(Remove number)

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#30053

FromAV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net>
Date2014-01-22 18:19 -0500
Message-ID<lbpjmo$epp$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#30050
On Jan/22/2014 1:1808 PM, Carl Heinz wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:02:50 -0500, AV3<arvimide@earthlink.net>  wrote:
>
>> I have less than forty categories, my principal classification factor,
>> but I didn't know there was a limit. What is it? Where is notice given
>> about limits?
>
> I received none, and there was no problem prior to the most recent change to
> iBooks.  The Apple tech I've been working with has referred it to developers
> as a problem.  The last call I had from the tech was that the developers were
> still working on it but he didn't have a time frame for the fix.  As noted
> before, the newest iBooks release displays the last roughly thirty categories
> as blanks and the books associated with those categories can't be accessed on
> my iPad although iTunes still shows them as being there.  It looks like
> roughly 130 is the max in the current version.


With less than forty categories, I am not pushing the limit, even if it 
is just 100. However, I am not sure what you mean by "the last roughly 
thirty categories." Are you selecting "Category" as the organizing 
column in iTunes->Books? Are the "last...thirty categories" the last in 
that column alphabetically? Or are you selecting some other column for 
organizing? I ask, because you said you organized on a different factor 
than I do.


-- 
++====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====+====+=====+=====+=====+=====+====++
||Arnold VICTOR, New York City, i. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net>    ||
||Arnoldo VIKTORO, Nov-jorkurbo, t. e., <arvimideQ@Wearthlink.net>   ||
||Remove capital letters from e-mail address for correct address/    ||
||    Forigu majusklajn literojn el e-poŝta adreso por ĝusta adreso  ||
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#30054

FromCarl Heinz <cfheinz57@charter.net>
Date2014-01-22 15:22 -0800
Message-ID<elk0e9pih7nbls3ss55j5jf76kk16mht29@4ax.com>
In reply to#30053
On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 18:19:51 -0500, AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote:

>On Jan/22/2014 1:1808 PM, Carl Heinz wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jan 2014 11:02:50 -0500, AV3<arvimide@earthlink.net>  wrote:
>>
>>> I have less than forty categories, my principal classification factor,
>>> but I didn't know there was a limit. What is it? Where is notice given
>>> about limits?
>>
>> I received none, and there was no problem prior to the most recent change to
>> iBooks.  The Apple tech I've been working with has referred it to developers
>> as a problem.  The last call I had from the tech was that the developers were
>> still working on it but he didn't have a time frame for the fix.  As noted
>> before, the newest iBooks release displays the last roughly thirty categories
>> as blanks and the books associated with those categories can't be accessed on
>> my iPad although iTunes still shows them as being there.  It looks like
>> roughly 130 is the max in the current version.
>
>
>With less than forty categories, I am not pushing the limit, even if it 
>is just 100. However, I am not sure what you mean by "the last roughly 
>thirty categories." Are you selecting "Category" as the organizing 
>column in iTunes->Books? Are the "last...thirty categories" the last in 
>that column alphabetically? Or are you selecting some other column for 
>organizing? I ask, because you said you organized on a different factor 
>than I do.

Sorry.  It should have read collections.
-- 
Carl Heinz
cfheinz57@charter.net
(Remove number)

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#30056

FromLewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies>
Date2014-01-23 02:19 +0000
Message-ID<slrnle0v2b.1hsr.g.kreme@amelia.local>
In reply to#30046
In message <lboq3b$ons$1@news.albasani.net> 
  AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On Jan/22/2014 5:2010 AM, Lewis wrote:
>> In message<lbi0vp$9rp$1@news.albasani.net>
>>    AV3<arvimide@earthlink.net>  wrote:
>>> On Jan/19/2014 7:2144 PM, Carl Heinz wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:53:03 -0500, nospam<nospam@nospam.invalid>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> ...
>>
>>> How many books do you have and in what format? Have you made changes to
>>> entries for your own purposes? These factors ought not to make any
>>> difference, but they might have triggered a bug.
>>
>> It's not the number of books, it the number of categories he creates for
>> those books.

> I have less than forty categories, my principal classification factor, 
> but I didn't know there was a limit. What is it? Where is notice given 
> about limits?

I don't think there is supposed to be a limit, but the OP hit problems
in iBooks for iOS 7 somewhere north of 130 collections. Evidently he has
more than 200, and that worked in pervious versions of iBooks.

Either Apple will fix it or they will set a limit of 128 collections
(documentation means the bug is no longer a bug).

-- 
If you mixed vodka with orange juice and Milk Of Magnesia, would you get
a Philip's Screwdriver?

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#30074

FromEd Propes <top1sg@suddenlink.net>
Date2014-01-24 00:27 -0600
Message-ID<bkeff3F2so8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#30005
Carl Heinz explained :
> On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 15:53:03 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> 
> wrote:
>
>>> The problem with collections in iBooks has still
>>> not been resolved and I reported the problem to Apple just after 
>>> the new version of iBooks was released.  A recent call to the Apple 
>>> tech I've been working with says that he's received no further 
>>> reply from the developers.
>> 
>> what problem with ibooks?
>
> This was discussed a while back, but to recap, the new version of 
> iBooks couldn't handle the number of Collections I use.  I have an 
> extensive ebook collection divided into Collections by author.  In 
> the case of authors having series with a number of books, I separated 
> out the series within author into separate collections.  After 
> installing the current version of iBooks, the last thirty or so 
> collections appeared as blank entries and I'm unable to access the 
> books in them, nor am I able to reload them.  iTunes locks when 
> attempting to synch.  I've reported my experiments to overcome the 
> problem to Apple tech support and I've been told that my findings 
> have been reported to the developers.  This was not a problem in the 
> prior versions of iBooks having the Collections function, and I've 
> been using the Collections function since it was first made a part of 
> iBooks.

Sorry for entering this conversation late but I have a question 
for you. You say sync hangs for you when you connect to itunes. 
Have you tried turning sync off and then restoring from an 
earlier backup? I know this is simple and you most likely tried 
this early in your quest for a solution but I thought I'd ask.

Good luck,
Ed in Texas

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#29994

FromEarl Grey <earl@t.net>
Date2014-01-19 12:37 -0500
Message-ID<lbh2hg$20e$1@news.albasani.net>
In reply to#29986
On 1/19/14, 1:39 AM, Maurice Helwig wrote:
> On 19/01/2014 4:08 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <lbfpea$mk8$1@dont-email.me>, Maurice Helwig
>> <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My wife is wanting to buy one of these -- a 10 inch screen
>>>
>>> What does she have to have installed on her laptop to communicate with
>>> the Ipad. I am referring to transferring files to and from the Ipad.
>>
>> itunes.
>>
>>> I wish to avoid using iTunes at all costs, if possible.
>>
>> why?
>>

> I had the job of removing iTunes from one of my Granddaughter's
> computers a few years ago. It was like a octopus -- stuff everywhere --
>   which was not removed by the uninstaller so I had to manually remove
> the leftovers and generally cleanup. I decided then that Itunes was off
> my install list.
>
> Apart from the uninstaller problem, I found that it invaded the computer
> and reorganized a perfectly good filing system and wanted to take you to
> the apple store every time it was opened to encourage you to buy something.
>
> How the current version of iTunes functions I do not know but I will be
> looking for an alternative.
>

Windows box or Mac?

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#29995

FromGeorge Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
Date2014-01-19 11:57 -0600
Message-ID<CF016E43.A681E%ghost_topper@hotmail.com>
In reply to#29986


On 1/19/14 12:39 AM, in article lbfrup$ii$1@dont-email.me, "Maurice Helwig"
<maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> wrote:

> On 19/01/2014 4:08 PM, nospam wrote:
>> In article <lbfpea$mk8$1@dont-email.me>, Maurice Helwig
>> <maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> My wife is wanting to buy one of these -- a 10 inch screen
>>> 
>>> What does she have to have installed on her laptop to communicate with
>>> the Ipad. I am referring to transferring files to and from the Ipad.
>> 
>> itunes.
>> 
>>> I wish to avoid using iTunes at all costs, if possible.
>> 
>> why?
>> 
>> she could use any of a number of cloud services but it may be slower,
>> particularly for larger files, like movies. it can be more convenient,
>> however. dropbox is one such option. many apps have cloud syncing
>> options, either their own or via dropbox or other cloud services.
>> 
> I had the job of removing iTunes from one of my Granddaughter's
> computers a few years ago. It was like a octopus -- stuff everywhere --
>   which was not removed by the uninstaller so I had to manually remove
> the leftovers and generally cleanup. I decided then that Itunes was off
> my install list.
> 
> Apart from the uninstaller problem, I found that it invaded the computer
> and reorganized a perfectly good filing system and wanted to take you to
> the apple store every time it was opened to encourage you to buy something.
> 
> How the current version of iTunes functions I do not know but I will be
> looking for an alternative.

You need to have Amnesia...

<http://download.cnet.com/Amnesia/3000-2096_4-10912094.html>

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#29998

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2014-01-19 15:52 -0500
Message-ID<190120141552593628%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#29986
In article <lbfrup$ii$1@dont-email.me>, Maurice Helwig
<maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> wrote:

> >> My wife is wanting to buy one of these -- a 10 inch screen
> >>
> >> What does she have to have installed on her laptop to communicate with
> >> the Ipad. I am referring to transferring files to and from the Ipad.
> >
> > itunes.
> >
> >> I wish to avoid using iTunes at all costs, if possible.
> >
> > why?
> >
> > she could use any of a number of cloud services but it may be slower,
> > particularly for larger files, like movies. it can be more convenient,
> > however. dropbox is one such option. many apps have cloud syncing
> > options, either their own or via dropbox or other cloud services.
> >
> I had the job of removing iTunes from one of my Granddaughter's 
> computers a few years ago.

why? it doesn't do anything when not in use.

> It was like a octopus -- stuff everywhere -- 
>   which was not removed by the uninstaller so I had to manually remove 
> the leftovers and generally cleanup. I decided then that Itunes was off 
> my install list.

all that work, for what? 

what was the reason you took all that time to remove it?

> Apart from the uninstaller problem, I found that it invaded the computer 
> and reorganized a perfectly good filing system and wanted to take you to 
> the apple store every time it was opened to encourage you to buy something.

it does no such thing without user involvement. 

*if* the user tells it to manage media, it can do that, but if the user
doesn't tell it to do that, then it won't.

in other words, she told it to do what it did. 

> How the current version of iTunes functions I do not know but I will be 
> looking for an alternative.

then you are asking for more work than is necessary.

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#29985

FromYour Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date2014-01-19 19:34 +1300
Message-ID<190120141934444854%YourName@YourISP.com>
In reply to#29983
In article <lbfpea$mk8$1@dont-email.me>, Maurice Helwig
<maurice_helwig@internode.on.net> wrote:

> My wife is wanting to buy one of these -- a 10 inch screen
> 
> What does she have to have installed on her laptop to communicate with 
> the Ipad. I am referring to transferring files to and from the Ipad.
> 
> I wish to avoid using iTunes at all costs, if possible.

iTunes is the best and easiest option since that's what it's designed
to do by Apple, the makers of the iPad. iTunes will also handle the
backup, etc. of the device to your computer.

You could use some sort of "cloud" service like DropBox or iCloud.
There are also a few "file browsers" that let you use the iPad like any
other USB flash drive, but they aren't worth the effort and you can
easily delete something you shouldn't that way.

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