Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment

From	Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups	comp.mobile.ipad
Subject	Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment
Date	2015-03-05 17:02 +0000
Organization	People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID	<clrgi3F75tsU17@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2015-03-05, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> wrote:
> In article <clr7c6F75tsU7@mid.individual.net>, Jolly Roger
><jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote:
>
>> >> Yes, I know that. It was intended to be a sarcastic dig at Adair's
>> >> paranoia about storing files on the Internet, despite the fact that
>> >> we're talking about an email attachment here.
>> >
>> > While you might not realize that "storage" bits are different than
>> > "communication" bits, the fact is, that, in the USA, they are different.
>> >
>> > In fact, a communication "bit" that is less than 180 days old has a more
>> > stringent level of protection than that same communication bit when 
>> > it is 180 days old, or more.
>> >
>> > What you may not realize is that the microsecond you "store" that 
>> > communication bit on the net, it's INSTANTLY less protected, because
>> > it's "storage", and not "communication".
>> >
>> > Same bits. Big difference.
>> 
>> You're talking a lot of nonsense. A bit is simply a unit of measurement
>> - there are 8 bits in a byte - and has virtually no relevance to the
>> topic at hand. Servers on the net don't make any distinction between the
>> types of data stored in bits - it's all just data. Mail and attachments
>> stored on IMAP servers on the net have the same protections regardless
>> of how long it is stored there.
>
> actually, he isn't talking nonsense, although his explanation is.

Using the most convoluted wording possible, as usual.

> what he's referring to is that email stored on a server for 6 months or
> more is considered abandoned and no longer has the same protections.

Sure, but those "protections" only apply to authorities wanting to
access the information *without* a warrant. It's simple to get a
warrant, and you may not even find out about it. Also, the NSA is
grabbing and recording everything in transit anyway. Not much protection
to speak of, unless you've encrypted everything in transit, which is
mostly not the case with email.

> however, it's also irrelevant, because if someone is sending an email
> attachment, it will be downloaded within hours, maybe a day. 

But can still be obtained while in transit.

> it can also be encrypted.

Yes, but most of the time isn't.

I run my own email server so storage isn't much of a concern for me.
What happens in transit is though, so if I did send anything critical,
it would naturally be encrypted before sending.

-- 
E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter.
I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead.

JR

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How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-20 18:50 +0000
  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-02-20 21:32 -0500
    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 02:39 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:22 +0000
        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 08:43 +0000
          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 12:31 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:22 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:24 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment AV3 <arvimide@earthlink.net> - 2015-02-21 10:55 -0500
        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 19:07 +0000
          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-21 13:40 -0600
            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 19:56 +0000
              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2015-02-21 12:13 -0800
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 07:12 +0000
              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-21 14:19 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-02-22 16:44 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Erilar <drache@chibardun.netinvalid> - 2015-02-22 21:47 +0000
              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-21 23:09 +0000
    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:20 +0000
    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:21 +0000
    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 04:21 +0000
    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-02-21 09:45 +0000
      Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <Recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 11:29 +0000
        Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 12:31 +0000
          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 14:34 +0000
            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-02-21 19:08 +0000
              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-21 20:14 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-03 15:52 +0000
              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-02-21 14:20 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-02-21 15:57 -0600
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 05:37 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-03 00:36 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-03-03 14:47 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 05:38 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 08:49 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-04 16:07 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 01:04 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 02:37 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 06:18 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 14:17 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 03:48 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-05 21:32 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-07 06:39 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-07 08:53 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 18:40 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-08 19:52 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-06 00:30 -0500
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2015-03-06 22:35 +1100
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-07 06:40 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-06 11:25 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-07 06:35 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-07 08:45 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-08 18:36 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 01:02 +0000
          Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Recliner <Recliner.ng@btinternet.com> - 2015-02-22 12:54 +0000
            Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-03 15:51 +0000
              Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-03 16:02 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 05:30 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-04 19:23 +1300
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 07:02 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-04 20:43 +1300
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 08:03 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-04 21:11 +1300
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 09:12 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-04 22:25 +1300
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 15:34 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 15:36 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-05 08:52 +1300
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 00:52 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 02:31 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-06 11:51 +1300
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-06 01:11 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 03:56 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 04:08 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 08:58 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 00:56 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 02:35 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 08:56 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 00:58 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-05 04:08 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) - 2015-03-05 17:16 +1300
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 06:22 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 14:26 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-05 11:13 -0500
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 11:50 -0500
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 17:02 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 12:21 -0500
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-05 17:55 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreelunchVideotron.ca> - 2015-03-05 13:03 -0500
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Fred Moore <fmoore@gcfn.org> - 2015-03-06 15:25 -0500
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-05 13:55 -0600
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-05 21:30 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 03:50 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-06 03:48 +0000
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Michelle Steiner <michelle@michelle.org> - 2015-03-04 08:53 -0700
                Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-05 01:00 +0000
  Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 05:53 +0000
    Re: How do I see & edit comments embedded in a Word document from an iPad Gmail attachment Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-04 06:50 +0000

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