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Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding?

Started byAblang <ablang@usa.com>
First post2015-09-26 18:35 +0000
Last post2015-10-01 08:04 +0200
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  Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-26 18:35 +0000
    Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-09-26 12:07 -0700
    Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-09-26 12:16 -0700
      Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-26 20:41 +0000
        Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2015-09-26 14:25 -0700
          Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-26 22:26 +0000
        Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2015-09-28 22:54 +0300
          Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-28 22:49 +0000
    Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Mitch Kaufmann <mitch284@outlook.com> - 2015-09-26 18:37 -0400
      Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? I R A Darth Aggie <n0b0dy@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-27 01:37 +0000
        Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-28 22:52 +0000
          Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? I R A Darth Aggie <n0b0dy@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-29 13:19 +0000
    Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2015-09-27 05:45 +0000
      Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-28 22:51 +0000
      Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-28 22:57 +0000
        Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2015-09-29 08:49 +0000
          Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-29 23:18 +0000
    Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201509.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2015-09-27 22:23 +0200
      Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-28 23:02 +0000
    Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-29 23:41 +0000
      Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? I R A Darth Aggie <n0b0dy@invalid.invalid> - 2015-09-30 15:52 +0000
        Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Ablang <ablang@usa.com> - 2015-09-30 22:26 +0000
          Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? I R A Darth Aggie <n0b0dy@invalid.invalid> - 2015-10-01 13:20 +0000
      Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2015-09-30 21:15 +0200
      Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2015-10-01 08:56 +0300
      Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? Jasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz> - 2015-10-02 20:45 +0000
        Netfix usage controls (was: Want to use VPN on Android Linux..) Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2015-10-03 04:44 -0400
    Re: Want to use VPN on Android Linux - where is openSSL hiding? "J.O. Aho" <user@example.net> - 2015-10-01 08:04 +0200

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#22537

FromI R A Darth Aggie <n0b0dy@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-09-30 15:52 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn0o1dp.u1g.n0b0dy@invalid.invalid>
In reply to#22519
On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 23:41:08 +0000 (UTC),
Ablang <ablang@usa.com>, in
<muf7ih$3b4$1@speranza.aioe.org> wrote:

>  The first is why they even talk about ranking crazy "windows VPNs" or 
>  "Android VPNs" or even crazier "Hulu VPNs" or "Netflix VPNs". 
> 
>  Huh?
>  What does the operating system have to do with VPN?

Windows has built-in vpn software (PPTP?) which is not the same as
OpenVPN, or even the Cisco product. So OS can matter.

>  What does a domain you visit while on VPN have to do with it?

That's probably so nonUSians can get a USA IP address so Netflix/Hulu
doesn't crap out on them or restrict their content.

>  There's nothing more to it.

There's a lot more than just OpenVPN.

-- 
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow
isn't looking good, either.
I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated.

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#22542

FromAblang <ablang@usa.com>
Date2015-09-30 22:26 +0000
Message-ID<muhnim$oj6$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#22537
I R A Darth Aggie wrote:

> There's a lot more than just OpenVPN.

For me, using OpenVPN on *any* operating system, all I do is:
1. Find any ovpn configuration file
2. Start Openvpn on whatever operating system I want
3. Load that ovpn configuration file

That's all I do to get on vpn anywhere in the world.

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#22561

FromI R A Darth Aggie <n0b0dy@invalid.invalid>
Date2015-10-01 13:20 +0000
Message-ID<slrnn0qct7.buo.n0b0dy@invalid.invalid>
In reply to#22542
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 22:26:30 +0000 (UTC),
Ablang <ablang@usa.com>, in
<muhnim$oj6$1@speranza.aioe.org> wrote:
>  I R A Darth Aggie wrote:
> 
> > There's a lot more than just OpenVPN.
> 
>  For me, using OpenVPN on *any* operating system, all I do is:
>  1. Find any ovpn configuration file
>  2. Start Openvpn on whatever operating system I want
>  3. Load that ovpn configuration file
> 
>  That's all I do to get on vpn anywhere in the world.

Let me know when everyone else in the world has the exact same VPN
needs as you.

-- 
Consulting Minister for Consultants, DNRC
I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow
isn't looking good, either.
I am BOFH. Resistance is futile. Your network will be assimilated.

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#22540

FromNomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>
Date2015-09-30 21:15 +0200
Message-ID<b5e2b23f5a8c9a32aac587ef79d2d05e@dizum.com>
In reply to#22519
> The first is why they even talk about ranking crazy "windows VPNs" or 
> "Android VPNs" or even crazier "Hulu VPNs" or "Netflix VPNs". 
> 
> Huh?
> What does the operating system have to do with VPN?
> What does a domain you visit while on VPN have to do with it?

People often use a VPN because their crappy ISPs block stuff (tor,
bittorrent, e-mail on port 25, VOIP if it's a wireless broadband
provider).

Sadly, VPN providers have the same problem.  For example, I signed up
for "securevpn.to" to bypass the fact that my ISP blocked port 25,
only to discover that securevpn.to also blocks port 25.  So the
application specific ones are those known not to block the service you
intend to use the VPN for.

I find all VPN comparison sites (including vpnranks.com) to be lousy.
I don't care to know what uses are supported; I want to know what's
*blocked*.  VPN providers do not advertise what they block, and the
comparison sites are not doing a good job of collecting this
information from unhappy customers.

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#22550

FromAnssi Saari <as@sci.fi>
Date2015-10-01 08:56 +0300
Message-ID<vg31tdfw2ro.fsf@coffee.modeemi.fi>
In reply to#22519
Ablang <ablang@usa.com> writes:

> Huh?
> What does the operating system have to do with VPN?

Many commercial VPN providers require that customers use their
proprietary client and since most people use Windows, often the only
choice is a Windows client. Not as nefarious as it sounds since the VPN
provider has access to all your traffic anyways.

> What does a domain you visit while on VPN have to do with it?

Many people use VPN to get around IP address based limitations on
services like Hulu and Netflix, to make it looks like they are in the
US. Like Americans who travel abroad, or people in Europe who want the
bigger selection Netflix offers in the US compared to what they offer in
Europe. Copyright holders like to sell rights to each individual country
separately, hence this idiotic situation.

> To me, VPN is a simple platform independent text configuration file. 
> You load the text file into OpenVPN and you're on that VPN server.

That's a really strange view. VPN in general is an encrypted pipe
between two points in some network, usually the internet. OpenVPN is
just one VPN implementation, there are many others. A configuration file
for a particular VPN client and service is just that.

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#22600

FromJasen Betts <jasen@xnet.co.nz>
Date2015-10-02 20:45 +0000
Message-ID<mumqdg$gd$1@gonzo.alcatraz>
In reply to#22519
On 2015-09-29, Ablang <ablang@usa.com> wrote:
> tauseeefgt wrote:
>
>> Find all the configuration at www.vpnranks.com specially for android.
>
> I don't get that web page at all.
> In fact, I must be talking a different *language* than that web page.
>
> Two really big disconnects at that web page confuse me.
>
> The first is why they even talk about ranking crazy "windows VPNs" or 
> "Android VPNs" or even crazier "Hulu VPNs" or "Netflix VPNs". 
>
> Huh?
> What does the operating system have to do with VPN?
> What does a domain you visit while on VPN have to do with it?

netflix can be accessed from banned regions by sending only a fraction
of the traffic through the VPN (to disguise the source IP address). 
If netflix is not geoblocking you, you won't benefit from a netflix VPN.

-- 
  \_(ツ)_

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#22603 — Netfix usage controls (was: Want to use VPN on Android Linux..)

FromJack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us>
Date2015-10-03 04:44 -0400
SubjectNetfix usage controls (was: Want to use VPN on Android Linux..)
Message-ID<42d1f2a1a3ea9390228717fbb532f297@remailer.cpunk.us>
In reply to#22600
> If netflix is not geoblocking you, you won't benefit from a netflix
> VPN.

Every region has a different set of silly licensing rules, and
consequently different netflix usage controls for each region.

E.g. in many regions, you can watch the same episode over again.  In
others, the rights were negotiated differently, so you can only watch
the episode /once/ (if you fall asleep while watching, you are SOL).
Different regions also get different material.  And in some cases, the
time of release varies from one region to the next.

Also note that the region is based on the IP's (apparent and possibly
incorrect) location at the time of viewing.  It is not based on where
the service was purchased.

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#22552

From"J.O. Aho" <user@example.net>
Date2015-10-01 08:04 +0200
Message-ID<d740nnFdi6jU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#22466
On 09/26/2015 08:35 PM, Ablang wrote:
> I just want to load the VPN configuration files that are freely
> available at vpngate.net so that I can use VPN with Android.
> 
> All I need is an "openssl" client for Android, and it should
> work as simply as typing the following command in Android.
>  openssl --config vpngatefile.ovpn
> 
> Searching for an OpenSSL client on Android, I don't see any.
> I see "Bluebox OpenSSL Security Scanner", "OpenSSL Checker", 
> etc., but not the basic linux OpenSSL program.
> 
> But Andoroid is linux, right?
> 
> Does a freeware openssl linux program exist for Android?

Yes, there are openssl for android and those are usually used in many
applications you use which has secure communication, but that ain't what
you need.

You need an openvpn client and load the configuration with it:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.blinkt.openvpn&hl=en

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