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Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people

Started byArlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
First post2021-01-09 10:11 +0000
Last post2021-01-10 10:58 +0000
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  Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 10:11 +0000
    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Dieter Britz <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> - 2021-01-09 13:01 +0000
      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-09 08:16 -0500
        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-09 09:34 -0700
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-09 12:35 -0500
            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-09 11:09 -0700
              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 20:49 +0000
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 20:34 +0000
            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-09 12:41 -0800
        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 17:47 +0000
      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-09 14:29 +0100
        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-09 12:56 -0500
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-09 21:29 +0100
            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 21:03 +0000
        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 20:24 +0000
      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Browne <bitbucket@blackhole.com> - 2021-01-09 08:58 -0500
        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 20:27 +0000
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-09 12:38 -0800
      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-09 09:12 -0700
        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-09 18:03 +0000
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-09 12:16 -0700
            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 20:53 +0000
            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-10 11:45 +0000
              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-10 14:03 +0000
              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-10 09:54 -0700
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-10 17:02 +0000
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 10:36 -0800
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-10 12:26 -0700
                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 12:20 -0800
                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-10 15:20 -0700
                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-10 23:29 +0000
                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 10:38 +1100
                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-10 17:40 -0700
                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 12:52 +1100
                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-10 20:08 -0700
                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 14:22 +1100
                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 13:51 +0000
                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 05:45 +1100
                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 09:38 +0000
                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-15 03:26 +1100
                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 19:56 +0000
                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-15 07:15 +1100
                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-14 10:15 -0700
                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-14 18:42 +0000
                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-15 16:39 +1100
                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-11 09:58 +0000
                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-11 10:27 -0700
                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 22:44 -0800
                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 19:00 +1100
                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-11 10:27 -0700
                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-11 17:51 +0000
                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 13:33 +0000
                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 08:40 -0800
                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-10 20:22 +0000
                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 10:53 +1100
                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-10 18:01 -0700
                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 12:59 +1100
                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-10 20:08 -0700
                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 14:11 +1100
                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-10 20:19 -0700
                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 15:01 +1100
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-12 22:51 +0100
                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-13 02:36 +0000
                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-01-13 16:19 +0100
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 10:56 +1100
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-11 16:34 +0000
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-11 10:35 -0700
                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-11 19:24 +0000
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 04:39 +1100
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 20:39 +0000
        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-09 20:29 +0000
      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Dieter Britz <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 10:38 +0000
      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 10:58 +0000
        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-10 08:55 -0500
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-10 15:41 +0000
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-10 21:48 +0000
            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-10 19:47 -0500
              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-11 15:22 +0000
              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 13:35 +0000
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-12 10:05 -0500
        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-11 16:20 +0000
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-11 13:05 -0500
            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-11 18:15 +0000
              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 21:48 -0800
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-12 10:13 -0500
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 15:23 -0800
          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-11 15:47 -0800
            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2021-01-12 13:11 +0000
              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-12 15:02 +0000
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-12 15:17 +0000
              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-12 10:19 -0500
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-12 08:14 -0800
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-12 13:41 -0500
                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 05:51 +0700
                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people KenW                                        <ken1943@invalid.net> - 2021-01-12 15:58 -0700
                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-12 18:15 -0500
                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 07:46 +0700
                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 21:24 -0800
                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-13 02:36 +0000
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-12 14:31 -0500
                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-12 14:47 -0800
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 15:26 -0800
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-12 19:46 -0500
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-01-13 08:07 -0700
                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 08:37 -0800
                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-13 12:31 -0500
                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-13 10:14 -0800
                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 10:49 -0800
                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-13 11:32 -0800
                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-13 16:07 -0500
                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 15:51 -0800
                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-13 18:57 -0500
                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 21:39 -0800
                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 22:24 -0800
                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 06:02 -0800
                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Bob F <bobnospam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 21:32 -0800
                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-18 09:10 -0500
                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-18 08:22 -0800
                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 09:06 -0800
                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-18 12:51 -0500
                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-18 09:58 -0800
                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-18 18:24 +0000
                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Anonymous Reactionary <anonymous@internet.everywhere> - 2021-01-20 00:18 +0000
                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-18 18:23 +0000
                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Savageduck <savageduck1@removespam.me.com> - 2021-01-18 14:14 -0600
                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 07:49 +1100
                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-18 13:21 -0800
                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 08:42 +1100
                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Savageduck <savageduck1@removespam.me.com> - 2021-01-18 16:16 -0600
                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 09:22 +1100
                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-18 14:23 -0800
                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-18 14:21 -0800
                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 10:01 +1100
                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-18 15:27 -0800
                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 13:13 +1100
                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-18 18:27 -0800
                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 13:46 +1100
                                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-18 18:52 -0800
                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-18 13:05 -0800
                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 08:30 +1100
                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Savageduck <savageduck1@removespam.me.com> - 2021-01-18 15:46 -0600
                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 09:19 +1100
                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-20 12:14 -0800
                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-20 13:03 -0800
                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 08:25 +1100
                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-20 13:38 -0800
                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-20 21:44 +0000
                                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 10:44 +1100
                                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-21 19:19 +0000
                                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-21 11:39 -0800
                                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 07:52 +1100
                                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-22 03:55 +0000
                                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-22 03:48 +0000
                                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-21 22:11 -0800
                                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 07:50 +1100
                                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-22 03:58 +0000
                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Savageduck <savageduck1@removespam.me.com> - 2021-01-20 15:30 -0600
                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-20 21:46 +0000
                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 10:48 +1100
                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-21 19:20 +0000
                                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 08:01 +1100
                                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-22 03:59 +0000
                                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-22 15:19 +1100
                                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-22 16:35 +0000
                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 10:40 +1100
                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-18 14:14 -0800
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                                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-20 18:33 -0800
                                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 13:49 +1100
                                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-20 18:51 -0800
                                                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-21 14:13 +1100
                                                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-20 19:50 -0800
                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Savageduck <savageduck1@removespam.me.com> - 2021-01-15 06:39 -0600
                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-15 18:38 -0800
                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-15 22:29 -0500
                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 16:11 +1100
                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam> - 2021-01-15 08:28 -0500
                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-15 18:42 -0800
                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-15 22:29 -0500
                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 16:16 +1100
                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-15 21:37 -0800
                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 17:24 +1100
                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-15 23:00 -0800
                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 19:29 +1100
                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-16 01:04 -0800
                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 20:49 +1100
                                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-16 11:05 -0800
                                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 08:48 +1100
                                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-16 14:05 -0800
                                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 10:24 +1100
                                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-16 15:43 -0800
                                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 13:25 +1100
                                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-16 19:33 -0800
                                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 16:31 +1100
                                                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-16 23:57 -0800
                                                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 19:21 +1100
                                                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-17 13:22 -0800
                                                                          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 09:30 +1100
                                                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-17 16:22 -0800
                                                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 11:54 +1100
                                                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-18 13:22 -0800
                                                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 08:44 +1100
                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2021-01-16 09:59 +0000
                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 21:08 +1100
                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 09:08 -0800
                                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-18 09:55 -0800
                                            Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2021-01-16 02:49 -0800
                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 04:51 +1100
                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-16 12:07 -0800
                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-17 08:37 +1100
                                                    Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Alan Baker <notonyourlife@no.no.no.no> - 2021-01-16 14:01 -0800
                                              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com> - 2021-01-18 09:59 -0800
                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-18 13:07 -0500
                                                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people AJL <noemail@none.com> - 2021-01-18 12:24 -0700
                                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-19 07:43 +1100
                                        Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2021-01-16 16:58 +0000
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                                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 03:22 +1100
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                                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-16 08:07 +1100
                      Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2021-01-13 13:06 -0500
              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 04:16 +1100
                Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Arlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com> - 2021-01-12 22:27 +0000
                  Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 11:16 +1100
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              Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 15:19 -0800
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          Re: Washington Post claims cellphone surveillance data is being collected in the capitol to identify people Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2021-01-12 13:35 +0000
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#73357

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2021-01-11 16:20 +0000
Message-ID<rti1da.ahg.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#73264
Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dieter Britz <dieterhansbritz@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, 09 Jan 2021 10:11:25 +0000, Arlen Holder wrote:
> > 
> >> This is NOT a political post (save that infantile garbage for the
> >> trolls).
> >> o This is verbatim from the Washington Post, dateline today, the facts
> >> being about cellphone records being used to track people's activities.
> > [...]
> > 
> > I live in Denmark and have an Android phone. About once a month I
> > get an email from google, with a link where I can see where I have
> > been every day, in a form of maps. This is fine with me, but there
> > are errors. Once that map reckoned I had been a certain route the
> > previous day, which was totally wrong, grabbed out of the air. It WAS
> > a route I often take, but not on that day. Again, this might just be
> > funny, but people have been convicted on the basis of such records,
> > when it was not true, so generally this is a worry.
> > 
> > Is it possible to turn this "feature" off?
> 
> Yes. Check your privacy settings in your google account. I've never enabled
> it and google don't know anywhere I've been. 

  Yes, you can turn off the 'Location History' setting in your Google
Account. But that only means that *you* can no longer see that history.

  Google doesn't say - let alone guarantee - that *Google* does not
store/keep your location history when that setting is off. Look very
carefully at what Google says and what it doesn't say. For example one
part says "When you keep your Location History, you can...". See,
*'you'*, not 'Google'.

  Me paranoid? Well they lie(d) about the 'X-No-Archive: Yes' header in
NetNews/Usenet articles (they *do* archive such articles, they just
don't *display* them (after a week) in their online 'reader'), so why
wouldn't they lie about what 'Location History Off' does and doesn't do?

  Anyway, I'll try to remember to turn it off before I'll go on my next
bank robbery.

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#73369

From"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam>
Date2021-01-11 13:05 -0500
Message-ID<rti41d$6tj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73357
"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote

| so why
| wouldn't they lie about what 'Location History Off' does and doesn't do?
|
|  Anyway, I'll try to remember to turn it off before I'll go on my next
| bank robbery.

 And don't forget to turn off Web and App Activity. Location
history apparently does nothing.

  I'm repeatedly surprised by how easily people are tracked
through their phones. Where have they been? Yet the mob
all had their phones out to make the experience real by
filming it... as they commit federal crimes. 

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#73372

FromArlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date2021-01-11 18:15 +0000
Message-ID<rti4jm$roq$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#73369
On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:05:19 -0500, Mayayana wrote:

> Yet the mob
> all had their phones out to make the experience real by
> filming it... as they commit federal crimes.

What's wrong with Airplane Mode?
o You can film all you want, with privacy - can't you?

I haven't checked in a while, but doesn't Airplane Mode
a. Turn off Wi-Fi
b. Turn off cellular (and cellular data)
c. Turn off bluetooth
d. Turn off NFS
e. (Whatever other radios you have, turn 'em off manually.)
-- 
If you're intelligent about it you can maintain a semblance of privacy.

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#73411

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-11 21:48 -0800
Message-ID<rtjd7k$5n5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73372
On 01/11/2021 10:15 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Jan 2021 13:05:19 -0500, Mayayana wrote:
>
>> Yet the mob
>> all had their phones out to make the experience real by
>> filming it... as they commit federal crimes.
>
> What's wrong with Airplane Mode?
> o You can film all you want, with privacy - can't you?
>
> I haven't checked in a while, but doesn't Airplane Mode
> a. Turn off Wi-Fi
> b. Turn off cellular (and cellular data)
> c. Turn off bluetooth
> d. Turn off NFS
> e. (Whatever other radios you have, turn 'em off manually.)

On the Pixel2 "airplane mode" turns off wifi and cellular.  I can turn 
wifi back on in airplane mode, but I don't know how to turn on cellular 
all by itself -- or why I'd want to.  Bluetooth and GPS/Location have 
separate switches.

As soon as I discovered those defaults I turned off automatic photo 
uploading and location saving.

Hrm.  I have an FM radio app.  I wonder if that works in airplane mode...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
  "Lord, grant me the serenity to accept the things that I cannot change,
   the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the
   bodies of the people who pissed me off."

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#73421

From"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam>
Date2021-01-12 10:13 -0500
Message-ID<rtkec3$33c$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73411
"The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote

| On the Pixel2 "airplane mode" turns off wifi and cellular.  I can turn
| wifi back on in airplane mode, but I don't know how to turn on cellular
| all by itself -- or why I'd want to.  Bluetooth and GPS/Location have
| separate switches.
|

  I've never looked at that before, but I'm not sure it would
be useful to me. My aim is 1) save battery life between
infrequent calls and 2) prevent my phone acting as a
tracking collar.

  It's hard to even imagine some of the tricks these companies
come up with for tracking. Especially Google. I suspect that
if you were the guy shitting in the Capitol hallways, using
airplane mode, you should expect a knock at the door. :)


 

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#73456

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-12 15:23 -0800
Message-ID<rtlb24$dj6$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73421
On 01/12/2021 07:13 AM, Mayayana wrote:
> "The Real Bev" <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote
>
> | On the Pixel2 "airplane mode" turns off wifi and cellular.  I can turn
> | wifi back on in airplane mode, but I don't know how to turn on cellular
> | all by itself -- or why I'd want to.  Bluetooth and GPS/Location have
> | separate switches.
> |
>
>    I've never looked at that before, but I'm not sure it would
> be useful to me. My aim is 1) save battery life between
> infrequent calls and 2) prevent my phone acting as a
> tracking collar.

I leave airplane mode off, along with location and bluetooth unless I 
need them.  I charge my battery overnight while the phone listens to me 
(or hubby, it's impossible to tell) snore so it's always 100% in the 
morning.  The only time I've ever run the battery down during the day 
was by leaving bluetooth on and taking lots of photos.

>    It's hard to even imagine some of the tricks these companies
> come up with for tracking. Especially Google. I suspect that
> if you were the guy shitting in the Capitol hallways, using
> airplane mode, you should expect a knock at the door. :)

What a waste -- he should have used Pelosi's chair instead.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "I don't think they could put him in a mental hospital.
    On the other hand, if he were already in, I don't think
    they'd let him out."                       -- Greek Geek

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#73399

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-11 15:47 -0800
Message-ID<rtio28$gia$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73357
On 01/11/2021 08:20 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

>    Google doesn't say - let alone guarantee - that *Google* does not
> store/keep your location history when that setting is off. Look very
> carefully at what Google says and what it doesn't say. For example one
> part says "When you keep your Location History, you can...". See,
> *'you'*, not 'Google'.
>
>    Me paranoid? Well they lie(d) about the 'X-No-Archive: Yes' header in
> NetNews/Usenet articles (they *do* archive such articles, they just
> don't *display* them (after a week) in their online 'reader'), so why
> wouldn't they lie about what 'Location History Off' does and doesn't do?
>
>    Anyway, I'll try to remember to turn it off before I'll go on my next
> bank robbery.

Are we exposed in airplane mode with location and bluetooth off?  Or do 
we have to turn it completely off?


-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Bluetooth is especially problematic in San Francisco because it
    makes it nearly impossible to tell who is hearing voices and who
    is just talking on the phone, and in this city their numbers
    seem about equal.                                --Shaun Nichols

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#73415

FromFrank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
Date2021-01-12 13:11 +0000
Message-ID<rtkalm.bgo.1@ID-201911.user.individual.net>
In reply to#73399
The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 01/11/2021 08:20 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
> 
> >    Google doesn't say - let alone guarantee - that *Google* does not
> > store/keep your location history when that setting is off. Look very
> > carefully at what Google says and what it doesn't say. For example one
> > part says "When you keep your Location History, you can...". See,
> > *'you'*, not 'Google'.
> >
> >    Me paranoid? Well they lie(d) about the 'X-No-Archive: Yes' header in
> > NetNews/Usenet articles (they *do* archive such articles, they just
> > don't *display* them (after a week) in their online 'reader'), so why
> > wouldn't they lie about what 'Location History Off' does and doesn't do?
> >
> >    Anyway, I'll try to remember to turn it off before I'll go on my next
> > bank robbery.
> 
> Are we exposed in airplane mode with location and bluetooth off?  Or do 
> we have to turn it completely off?

  Turn it off, smash it with a hammer and throw it in a grinder!

  But seriously, there have been reports of Google/Android turning on
(and using) Wi-Fi, even if it has been switched of by the user. If
that's true, Google still might gather (and store) - limited - location
data/history.

  So if you have a smartphone, your soul belongs to Google or Apple,
your 'choice'.

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#73419

FromArlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date2021-01-12 15:02 +0000
Message-ID<rtkdmk$akt$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#73415
On 12 Jan 2021 13:11:16 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

> But seriously, there have been reports of Google/Android turning on
> (and using) Wi-Fi, even if it has been switched of by the user. If
> that's true, 

Hi Frank,

Always adding technical value... 

We covered this in detail long ago, where Google (said they) stopped that.
o As with Apple, Google "said" it was "a bug" - so make your own decisions

Me?

On Android, I skip the "account setup" - the phone works just fine w/o it
o The "mother ship" doesn't track me - or better yet - my neighbors
  <https://i.postimg.cc/G2n0qDpt/settings07.jpg>

Neither my OS, nor my free apps know anything about the mother ship.
o And I have 1600 apps - all free - as there is no need for payware (IMHO)

On iOS, you can't even get close to that kind of privacy, unfortunately
o Even your free apps essentially permanently wired to the mother ship.

Luckily though, on both, you can _set_ permissions on a per-app basis:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/05dvXVDs/settings06.jpg>

Where you can easily get a good summary of which apps are requesting what:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/KcncSGXC/settings05.jpg>

> Google still might gather (and store) - limited - location
> data/history.

How are they gonna know who you are?
o You don't _ever_ log into a Google Account if you don't want to.

Even when you do traffic and routing, they still can't tell who you are.
o If you're intelligent about it, that is.

There are _plenty_ of other ways to obtain free traffic & offline routing:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/SKsjkwLC/maps03.jpg>

>   So if you have a smartphone, your soul belongs to Google or Apple,
> your 'choice'.

Wrong. 
o IMHO

If you're not intelligent (or lazy), your soul belongs to Google or Apple.
o But if you're intelligent, you can (maybe) attain a semblance of privacy.
  (as a computer connected to a network is an inherently insecure device)
-- 
The problem is un-intelligent people aim for highly MARKETED solutions.
o They can't think outside the box like normally intelligent people do.

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#73422

FromArlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date2021-01-12 15:17 +0000
Message-ID<rtkej6$p2m$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#73419
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 15:02:45 +0000 (UTC), Arlen Holder wrote:

> Neither my OS, nor my free apps know anything about the mother ship.
> o And I have 1600 apps - all free - as there is no need for payware (IMHO)
> 
> On iOS, you can't even get close to that kind of privacy, unfortunately
> o Even your free apps essentially permanently wired to the mother ship.

Ooooooopss..
o <https://i.postimg.cc/bN875p8b/apk01.jpg> 1600 APKs extracted
o <https://i.postimg.cc/cLXyGjTH/apk02.jpg> 16GB of archive storage

Unlike almost everyone who frequents this newsgroup - I speak facts.
o And I back up what I say, with cites & relevant screenshots

As my credibility on facts is 100% (as it should be for intelligent people).

Before the infantile apologists jump on that as a "fact" I finally got
wrong after all these decades on Usenet, I have 1,600 APKs but about 600
apps installed on my phone at any given time (as discussed elsewhere).
o <https://i.postimg.cc/XYnhh0N5/appdrawer04.jpg> 665 apps installed

The reason is that whenever I download from Google Play or from F-Droid
o I have my phone set to automatically archive the APK into a folder 

Unlike the ignorati who frequent this newsgroup, I prove what I claim:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/NjkLvYdy/aurora01.jpg> aurora scrapes google play
o <https://i.postimg.cc/W3h4ZZTr/aurora02.jpg> filters stuff Google won't
o <https://i.postimg.cc/ZR25xq5Q/aurora03.jpg> spoofing & updating settings

Plus, I extracted (long ago) all the pre-installed apps
o And each & every one of the Android system apps 

Which accounts for about 200 (or so) packagages which are pre-installed
o <https://i.postimg.cc/9XBsgmt9/appdrawer05.jpg> 437 apps installed

Although I've disabled every Google listed functionality that I could:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/9FmRKqnz/stt01.jpg>

Where the phone works just fine with almost all Google stuff disabled:
o <https://i.postimg.cc/ht5bzHXd/appdrawer03.jpg> lots of detail
-- 
Updated as the apologists would love to find a fact wrong from me.
o But they can't. 

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#73423

From"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam>
Date2021-01-12 10:19 -0500
Message-ID<rtkell$5vm$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73415
"Frank Slootweg" <this@ddress.is.invalid> wrote

|  But seriously, there have been reports of Google/Android turning on
| (and using) Wi-Fi, even if it has been switched of by the user. If
| that's true, Google still might gather (and store) - limited - location
| data/history.
|
|  So if you have a smartphone, your soul belongs to Google or Apple,
| your 'choice'.

 I saw an interesting article yesterday. Not about spying
but a reminder of how much data gets spread around. A
young, female hacker downloaded lots of files from Parler
and uploaded them to the Internet archive. Lots of video
and photos from rampagers at the Capitol. With metadata.
I'ts expected the Feds will be able to use much of it to
ID people.

   It's a very graphical display of how little people understand
about their data. These people were filming themselves,
carrying phones, while they committed serious crimes. 

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#73427

Fromsms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date2021-01-12 08:14 -0800
Message-ID<rtkhtm$93o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73423
On 1/12/2021 7:19 AM, Mayayana wrote:

<snip>

>     It's a very graphical display of how little people understand
> about their data. These people were filming themselves,
> carrying phones, while they committed serious crimes.

You have to be a few beers short of a six pack to post selfies of 
yourself committing crimes.

Maybe they will plead insanity..."clearly I was insane your honor, why 
else would I take video of myself in a coup attempt?"

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#73433

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2021-01-12 13:41 -0500
Message-ID<120120211341240209%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#73427
In article <rtkhtm$93o$1@dont-email.me>, sms
<scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

> You have to be a few beers short of a six pack to post selfies of 
> yourself committing crimes.
> 
> Maybe they will plead insanity..."clearly I was insane your honor, why 
> else would I take video of myself in a coup attempt?"

a few of them spoke to reporters or further tweeted about it and they
do not see themselves as committing crimes at all.

they see themselves as 'patriots' who are saving the country from being
taken over by radicals, communists, socialists and many other groups
they do not actually understand.

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#73450

FromJohn B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-13 05:51 +0700
Message-ID<pt9svf9b4gllbdghid99u5un8bf6tftrl2@4ax.com>
In reply to#73433
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:41:24 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <rtkhtm$93o$1@dont-email.me>, sms
><scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>> You have to be a few beers short of a six pack to post selfies of 
>> yourself committing crimes.
>> 
>> Maybe they will plead insanity..."clearly I was insane your honor, why 
>> else would I take video of myself in a coup attempt?"
>
>a few of them spoke to reporters or further tweeted about it and they
>do not see themselves as committing crimes at all.
>
>they see themselves as 'patriots' who are saving the country from being
>taken over by radicals, communists, socialists and many other groups
>they do not actually understand.

And so did Adolf Hitler.
-- 
Cheers,

John B.

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#73451

FromKenW <ken1943@invalid.net>
Date2021-01-12 15:58 -0700
Message-ID<sbasvfp1it0gnqb2d5iqqhgs7gkm05gm33@4ax.com>
In reply to#73450
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 05:51:23 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:41:24 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
>wrote:
>
>>In article <rtkhtm$93o$1@dont-email.me>, sms
>><scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> You have to be a few beers short of a six pack to post selfies of 
>>> yourself committing crimes.
>>> 
>>> Maybe they will plead insanity..."clearly I was insane your honor, why 
>>> else would I take video of myself in a coup attempt?"
>>
>>a few of them spoke to reporters or further tweeted about it and they
>>do not see themselves as committing crimes at all.
>>
>>they see themselves as 'patriots' who are saving the country from being
>>taken over by radicals, communists, socialists and many other groups
>>they do not actually understand.
>
>And so did Adolf Hitler.

Watching interview with Alan Dershowitz. While he didn't agree with
what Trump said, it was protected free speech.


KenW

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#73454

Fromnospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date2021-01-12 18:15 -0500
Message-ID<120120211815005126%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to#73451
In article <sbasvfp1it0gnqb2d5iqqhgs7gkm05gm33@4ax.com>, KenW
<ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:

> Watching interview with Alan Dershowitz. While he didn't agree with
> what Trump said, it was protected free speech.

he's a trump defense lawyer, so of course he's going to say that.

meanwhile, just about every other lawyer says it meets brandenburg and
therefore is *not* protected speech.

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#73459

FromJohn B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-13 07:46 +0700
Message-ID<rfgsvfda44n8uiar0tqvpbc9e0en0gij23@4ax.com>
In reply to#73451
On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 15:58:34 -0700, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 05:51:23 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:41:24 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>In article <rtkhtm$93o$1@dont-email.me>, sms
>>><scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You have to be a few beers short of a six pack to post selfies of 
>>>> yourself committing crimes.
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe they will plead insanity..."clearly I was insane your honor, why 
>>>> else would I take video of myself in a coup attempt?"
>>>
>>>a few of them spoke to reporters or further tweeted about it and they
>>>do not see themselves as committing crimes at all.
>>>
>>>they see themselves as 'patriots' who are saving the country from being
>>>taken over by radicals, communists, socialists and many other groups
>>>they do not actually understand.
>>
>>And so did Adolf Hitler.
>
>Watching interview with Alan Dershowitz. While he didn't agree with
>what Trump said, it was protected free speech.
>
>
>KenW

But what constitutes "free speech"? 
-- 
Cheers,

John B.

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#73722

FromBob F <bobnospam@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-17 21:24 -0800
Message-ID<ru361i$fd9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73459
On 1/12/2021 4:46 PM, John B. wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 15:58:34 -0700, KenW <ken1943@invalid.net> wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 05:51:23 +0700, John B. <slocombjb@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, 12 Jan 2021 13:41:24 -0500, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In article <rtkhtm$93o$1@dont-email.me>, sms
>>>> <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You have to be a few beers short of a six pack to post selfies of
>>>>> yourself committing crimes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe they will plead insanity..."clearly I was insane your honor, why
>>>>> else would I take video of myself in a coup attempt?"
>>>>
>>>> a few of them spoke to reporters or further tweeted about it and they
>>>> do not see themselves as committing crimes at all.
>>>>
>>>> they see themselves as 'patriots' who are saving the country from being
>>>> taken over by radicals, communists, socialists and many other groups
>>>> they do not actually understand.
>>>
>>> And so did Adolf Hitler.
>>
>> Watching interview with Alan Dershowitz. While he didn't agree with
>> what Trump said, it was protected free speech.
>>
>>
>> KenW
> 
> But what constitutes "free speech"?
> 

$$$$$$$

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#73467

FromArlen Holder <arlen_holder@newmachines.com>
Date2021-01-13 02:36 +0000
Message-ID<rtlmbq$dbh$5@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#73450
On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 05:51:23 +0700, John B. wrote:

>>they see themselves as 'patriots' who are saving the country from being
>>taken over by radicals, communists, socialists and many other groups
>>they do not actually understand.
> 
> And so did Adolf Hitler.

You know the infantile political trolls have infested a thread when they
can't think of anything but to invoke Godwin's law against everything.

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#73436

From"Mayayana" <mayayana@invalid.nospam>
Date2021-01-12 14:31 -0500
Message-ID<rtktek$788$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#73427
"sms" <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote

| Maybe they will plead insanity..."clearly I was insane your honor, why
| else would I take video of myself in a coup attempt?"
|

They do seem to be doing that. The man who stole
the podium says he was just there to appreciate
historic DC buildings. The rich woman who arrived by
jet said she was never inside, despite pictures showing
she was. The retired military man who brought in ties to
take hostages said he'd just found them and was
planning to give them to the cops. They've been well
trained by Trump: Lies are only wrong if they don't work.

   But the most bizarre is the viking in face paint, who
turns out to live with his mother. She complained that
the jailkeepers refuse to give him organic
food. A judge has ruled that he has a right to be given
organic food in keeping with his religion.

  So are these terrorists or snowflakes? And is there
a difference? 

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