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Is Apple acknowledging that many users want an active stylus on their phones?

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#54970

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-20 18:43 +0000
Message-ID	<plf24i$fvt$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#54961

On 20 Aug 2018 10:33:21 GMT, nospam wrote:

> yep. it ain't just apple who realizes that the future is wireless.

Every statement you make proves to the world that you have the mindset of a
child.

That Google & Apple are highly MARKETED is something that is far too
complex for your child's mind to comprehend.

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#54955

From	abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
Date	2018-08-20 09:53 -0700
Message-ID	<plerml$r84$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#54944

On 8/20/2018 7:41 AM, nospam wrote:

> meanwhile, the google pixel, what google's vision of what an android 
> phone should be, does *not* have an analog headphone jack.

What makes Google God? Who gives a damn about their vision? I've had
Google products and they ain't all that great. I DID miss the SD card on
my Nexus 7. And the Pixelbook? Talk about being overpriced...
Fortunately Google ain't God and the competition can do a better job at
a better price.

Even the grandkids el-cheapo Digiland (US$39) tablet has both a
headphone jack and SD capability. (Especially thank God for the peace
and quiet provided by those headphones...)

> nor does the essential phone from andy rubin, who created android 
> itself,

Why would anybody give a rats ass about what somebody who created
Android thinks a modern phone should be? Do you worship Bill Gates too??
Buy any overpriced Microsoft stuff recently?

> along with many other android phones from motorola, htc, le eco, and
> others.

Both my Motorola and HTC phones have/had headphone holes.

> they all, however, have a modern digital headphone jack, one which
> is more reliable and more capable.

Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5 bucks?

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#54959

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-20 17:14 +0000
Message-ID	<plesug$6dc$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#54955

On 20 Aug 2018 09:53:43 GMT, abcdef wrote:

> What makes Google God? 

The Apple Apologists make Google God whenever they have no logical
argument, and when Google MARKETING does the same thing as does Apple
MARKETING!

> Who gives a damn about their vision? 

If people buy into the Google MARKETING bullshit or the Apple MARKETING
bullshit - then it will be important.

But if people make intelligent choices, and shun the Google MARKETING
bullshit, then Google's phones are meaningless to most of us since we can
find a better deal elsewhere.

> I've had
> Google products and they ain't all that great. I DID miss the SD card on
> my Nexus 7. And the Pixelbook? Talk about being overpriced...

Yup. I've bought as gift phones the Moto-G from Google and the Nexus 5 from
Google, but I swore them off forever. They're as restrictive as Apple
products. Who wants that? Nobody.

I bought them because they were inexpensive compared to the competition,
but, in the end, the restrictions of no SD card, non-removable battery were
too much, even for me.

The only way I'd take a phone sans an SD card slot or removable battery is
if someone gives it to me for free.

> Fortunately Google ain't God and the competition can do a better job at
> a better price.

Yup. A few months ago I bought at Costco a handful of $130 8-core LG Stylo
3 Plus phones for T-Mobile networks which have a removable battery, 2TB sd
card slot, FM radio, and headphone jack.

Who needs the Orwellian restrictions of Google or Apple MARKETING when you
can find deals like that around.

> Even the grandkids el-cheapo Digiland (US$39) tablet has both a
> headphone jack and SD capability. (Especially thank God for the peace
> and quiet provided by those headphones...)

A headphone jack is basic functionality.
Only the Apple Apologists disagree with that logical statement.

> Why would anybody give a rats ass about what somebody who created
> Android thinks a modern phone should be? Do you worship Bill Gates too??
> Buy any overpriced Microsoft stuff recently?

What the Apple Apologists do is blame Android for Apple's faults.
They do it constantly. 
It's part of their psyche to blame Android for all of Apple's decisions!
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/misc.phone.mobile.iphone/18ARDsEOPzM>

> Both my Motorola and HTC phones have/had headphone holes.

I bought a handful of the $130 LG Stylo 3 Plus phones, where *all* have
standard common headphone jack functionality.

Sure, Apple & Google won't be able to upsell $160 contraptions - where -
I'm ok with that logic.

> Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5 bucks?

The ill-formed logic of the Apple Apologist *never* takes into account
logical adult-made price performance considerations such as that one! :)

PS: My local library has a basket full of the earbuds so that anyone in the
library can just plug in and listen without bothering everyone else.

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#54977

From	sms <scharf.steven@geemail.com>
Date	2018-08-20 13:06 -0700
Message-ID	<plf6vn$92h$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#54959

On 8/20/2018 10:14 AM, Arlen Holder wrote:

<snip>

> Yup. A few months ago I bought at Costco a handful of $130 8-core LG Stylo
> 3 Plus phones for T-Mobile networks which have a removable battery, 2TB sd
> card slot, FM radio, and headphone jack.

Every time I look at the headphone jack on any of my phones, my first 
thought is that someone in China or Korea lacked the courage to not 
include it.

It makes me very sad to think that I am using a phone designed by 
courage-less cowards, but I get over it.

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#54989

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-20 22:48 +0000
Message-ID	<plfggh$cm2$3@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#54977

On 20 Aug 2018 13:06:14 GMT, sms wrote:

> It makes me very sad to think that I am using a phone designed by 
> courage-less cowards, but I get over it.

The whole "courage" thing is *I-M-P-O-R-T-A-N-T* because neither Google nor
Apple has provided any valid explanation that fits logic.
 Apple defends decision to remove 3.5mm headphone jack, cites ´courage¡
 <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/09/apple-justifies-decision-to-remove-3-5mm-headphone-jack-cites-courage/>
  "It comes down to one word," Schiller said. "Courage. 
   The courage to move on and do something better for all of us."

Logical sentient adults (aka, not Apple Apologist) reasonably differ with
Apple's justification for removing basic functionality from the iPhone:
 No, Apple, killing your headphone jack is not "courage"
 <https://mashable.com/2016/09/07/iphone-headphone-jack-courage/>
  "And what has Apple done? It has eradicated the most successful, 
   most widespread and best-sounding audio standard in the world 
   in favor of its own proprietary system. A number of words come 
   to mind to describe this. "Hubris" is one; "arrogance" is another.
   Given the amount of $9 aux-to-Lightning cable dongles Apple is
   likely to sell, you could use "greed."

Just as Apple's first explanations of why they were secretly throttling
their phones never fit any actual logic - and yet the Apple Apologists
backed them up - even as Apple secretly changed their release notes after
the fact.

Neither Google nor Apple seems to have a *logical explanation*, where that
usually tells us that they simply don't want us to know why they removed
the basic functionality.

Google even made fun of Apple when Apple removed the basic functionality.

And yet, both Google & Apple stand to make a *lot* of money simply by
removing basic functionality from their phones as Apple leads the way:
  Each Lost or Damaged AirPod Costs $69 to Replace
  <https://www.pcmag.com/news/350375/each-lost-or-damaged-airpod-costs-69-to-replace>
   "Apple's "courageous" decision to remove the headphone jack 
   from the iPhone 7 was meant to boost sales of wireless 
   earphones for the company."

https://mashable.com/2016/07/23/killing-headphone-jack-sucks/
 "That's the response I expect to hear from all *the apologists* who
  think that smartphones without headphone jacks are NBD."

Notice that even the press calls the Apple Apologists what they are.

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#54962

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2018-08-20 13:33 -0400
Message-ID	<200820181333229932%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#54955

In article <plerml$r84$1@dont-email.me>, abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
wrote:

> > they all, however, have a modern digital headphone jack, one which
> > is more reliable and more capable.
> 
> Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5 bucks?

you sure can, and with $2 left over:
<https://www.amazon.com/Beautyonline-Headphones-Waterproof-Sweatproof-Ha
nds-free/dp/B07DB1PL8P/>

it's much better to teach them responsibility and not mistreat or lose
the headphones that came with the phone.

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#54972

From	abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
Date	2018-08-20 12:02 -0700
Message-ID	<plf37b$fos$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#54962

On 8/20/2018 10:33 AM, nospam wrote:
> abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> wrote:

>> Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5 bucks?
> 
> you sure can, and with $2 left over:

> <https://www.amazon.com/Beautyonline-Headphones-Waterproof-Sweatproof-Ha
 > nds-free/dp/B07DB1PL8P/>

Good find but I think I'd rather get this 61 cent wired pair. Not only
do I save a buck and a half but they play forever without the hassle of
battery charging. AND they're white so people will think I have those
cool expensive Apple ones... ;)

https://www.nicepricefavors.com/p-6788.htm?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ShoppingSearch&utm_nooverride=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoMPCsaP83AIViFx-Ch3OLw51EAQYAyABEgIfgPD_BwE

> it's much better to teach them responsibility and not mistreat or
> lose the headphones that came with the phone.

My oldest grandkid is age 32 so too too late for her. But for the other
34 (plus 3 in the ovens) I'll see what I can do.

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#54974

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date	2018-08-20 12:27 -0700
Message-ID	<0001HW.212B4DBC00419919700001DE02CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to	#54972

On Aug 20, 2018, abcdef wrote
(in article <plf37b$fos$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 8/20/2018 10:33 AM, nospam wrote:
> > abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> wrote:
>
> > > Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5 bucks?
> >
> > you sure can, and with $2 left over:
>
> > <https://www.amazon.com/Beautyonline-Headphones-Waterproof-Sweatproof-Ha
> > nds-free/dp/B07DB1PL8P/>
>
> Good find but I think I'd rather get this 61 cent wired pair. Not only
> do I save a buck and a half but they play forever without the hassle of
> battery charging. AND they're white so people will think I have those
> cool expensive Apple ones... ;)
>
> https://www.nicepricefavors.com/p-6788.htm?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=cpc&u
> tm_campaign=ShoppingSearch&utm_nooverride=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoMPCsaP83AIViFx-
> Ch3OLw51EAQYAyABEgIfgPD_BwE
>
> > it's much better to teach them responsibility and not mistreat or
> > lose the headphones that came with the phone.
>
> My oldest grandkid is age 32 so too too late for her. But for the other
> 34 (plus 3 in the ovens) I'll see what I can do.

Oh Hell! Just step up and buy them a pair of Etymotic ER4. I have had a pair 
for about 9 years, and they work just fine with my iPhone 8+ using the Apple 
supplied Lightning to analog headphone adaptor. Sorry they are only available 
in black.

<https://www.etymotic.com/consumer/earphones/er4-new.html>

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck

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#54978

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date	2018-08-20 13:06 -0700
Message-ID	<0001HW.212B56E10043BDBF700001DE02CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to	#54974

On Aug 20, 2018, Savageduck wrote
(in article<0001HW.212B4DBC00419919700001DE02CF@news.giganews.com>):

> On Aug 20, 2018, abcdef wrote
> (in article <plf37b$fos$1@dont-email.me>):
>
> > On 8/20/2018 10:33 AM, nospam wrote:
> > > abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5 bucks?
> > >
> > > you sure can, and with $2 left over:
> >
> > > <https://www.amazon.com/Beautyonline-Headphones-Waterproof-Sweatproof-Hands-free/dp/B07DB1PL8P/>
> >
> > Good find but I think I'd rather get this 61 cent wired pair. Not only
> > do I save a buck and a half but they play forever without the hassle of
> > battery charging. AND they're white so people will think I have those
> > cool expensive Apple ones... ;)
> >
> > 
https://www.nicepricefavors.com/p-
6788.htm?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ShoppingSearch&utm_noo
verride=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoMPCsaP83AIViFxCh3OLw51EAQYAyABEgIfgPDBwE
> >
> > > it's much better to teach them responsibility and not mistreat or
> > > lose the headphones that came with the phone.
> >
> > My oldest grandkid is age 32 so too too late for her. But for the other
> > 34 (plus 3 in the ovens) I'll see what I can do.
>
> Oh Hell! Just step up and buy them a pair of Etymotic ER4. I have had a pair
> for about 9 years, and they work just fine with my iPhone 8+ using the Apple
> supplied Lightning to analog headphone adaptor. Sorry they are only available
> in black.
>
> <https://www.etymotic.com/consumer/earphones/er4-new.html>

BTW: Here are my 9 year old Etymotic ER4 earphones, first used with an 
iPhone4 currently used with an iPhone8+.

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/n92lxdyz4zn8vxf/IMG_2572e2.jpg?dl=0>

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck

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#54991

From	abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
Date	2018-08-20 16:45 -0700
Message-ID	<plfjpv$hv3$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#54974

On 8/20/2018 12:27 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> On Aug 20, 2018, abcdef wrote

>>>> Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5
>>>> bucks?

> Oh Hell! Just step up and buy them a pair of Etymotic ER4. I have had
> a pair for about 9 years, and they work just fine with my iPhone 8+
> using the Apple supplied Lightning to analog headphone adaptor. Sorry
> they are only available in black.
> 
> <https://www.etymotic.com/consumer/earphones/er4-new.html>

$349?? Ouch.

> BTW: Here are my 9 year old Etymotic ER4 earphones, first used with
> an iPhone4 currently used with an iPhone8+.

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/n92lxdyz4zn8vxf/IMG_2572e2.jpg?dl=0>

Ugh. How can you stand that color clash between that white dangling
dongle and those black headphones? Takes my breath away. Arlen was sure
wrong about you Apple people being color conscious... ;)

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#55000

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date	2018-08-21 13:53 -0500
Message-ID	<DqydnVyQqf9YwuHGnZ2dnUU7-RHNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to	#54991

abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> wrote:
> On 8/20/2018 12:27 PM, Savageduck wrote:
>> On Aug 20, 2018, abcdef wrote
> 
>>>>> Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5
>>>>> bucks?
> 
>> Oh Hell! Just step up and buy them a pair of Etymotic ER4. I have had
>> a pair for about 9 years, and they work just fine with my iPhone 8+
>> using the Apple supplied Lightning to analog headphone adaptor. Sorry
>> they are only available in black.
>> 
>> <https://www.etymotic.com/consumer/earphones/er4-new.html>
> 
> $349?? Ouch.

Well nobody is going to describe them as cheap shit.
> 
>> BTW: Here are my 9 year old Etymotic ER4 earphones, first used with
>> an iPhone4 currently used with an iPhone8+.
> 
> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/n92lxdyz4zn8vxf/IMG_2572e2.jpg?dl=0>
> 
> Ugh. How can you stand that color clash between that white dangling
> dongle and those black headphones? Takes my breath away. Arlen was sure
> wrong about you Apple people being color conscious... ;)
> 
> 
> 
I have never considered myself to be a color conscious fashion follower.

-- 

 Regards,
 Savageduck

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#55003

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2018-08-21 17:27 -0400
Message-ID	<210820181727335050%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#55000

In article <DqydnVyQqf9YwuHGnZ2dnUU7-RHNnZ2d@giganews.com>, Savageduck
<savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> I have never considered myself to be a color conscious fashion follower.

you're what we call a black & white :)

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#54975

From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2018-08-20 15:35 -0400
Message-ID	<200820181535088315%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#54972

In article <plf37b$fos$1@dont-email.me>, abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
wrote:

> >> Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5 bucks?
> > 
> > you sure can, and with $2 left over:
> 
> > <https://www.amazon.com/Beautyonline-Headphones-Waterproof-Sweatproof-Ha
>  > nds-free/dp/B07DB1PL8P/>
> 
> Good find but I think I'd rather get this 61 cent wired pair. 

you said under $5, not under $1.

> Not only
> do I save a buck and a half but they play forever without the hassle of
> battery charging. AND they're white so people will think I have those
> cool expensive Apple ones... ;)
>
> https://www.nicepricefavors.com/p-6788.htm?utm_source=froogle&utm_medium=cpc&u
> tm_campaign=ShoppingSearch&utm_nooverride=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIoMPCsaP83AIViFx-
> Ch3OLw51EAQYAyABEgIfgPD_BwE

headphones that sell for 61 cents are garbage.

> > it's much better to teach them responsibility and not mistreat or
> > lose the headphones that came with the phone.
> 
> My oldest grandkid is age 32 so too too late for her. But for the other
> 34 (plus 3 in the ovens) I'll see what I can do.

then they can buy their own headphones and not bother with the cheap
shit you're pawning off on them.

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#54990

From	abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
Date	2018-08-20 16:45 -0700
Message-ID	<plfjpt$hv3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#54975

On 8/20/2018 12:35 PM, nospam wrote:
> abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com> wrote:

>>>> Can I get a digital headphone set for the grandkids for 5
>>>> bucks?

>>> you sure can, and with $2 left over: [link snipped]

>> Good find but I think I'd rather get this 61 cent wired pair. [link
>> snipped]

> you said under $5, not under $1.

Just trying to make a point. I actually found a free wired pair but
didn't want to outdo you too much at being ridiculous.

> headphones that sell for 61 cents are garbage.

Of course. Bluetooth headphones that sell for $3 are garbage also.

> they can buy their own headphones and not bother with the cheap shit
> you're pawning off on them.

But the cheap shit headphones actually work great. When the grandkids
are playing their video games at full blast,  *I*  can't hear a thing...

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#54995

From	Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com>
Date	2018-08-21 13:34 +1200
Message-ID	<plfq6f$1io9$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#54990

On 2018-08-20 23:45:00 +0000, abcdef said:
> 
<snip>
> 
> But the cheap shit headphones actually work great. When the grandkids
> are playing their video games at full blast,  *I*  can't hear a thing...

That's what happens when they take the batteries out of your hearing aid.  ;-)

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#54956

From	abcdef <abcdef@abcdef.com>
Date	2018-08-20 09:53 -0700
Message-ID	<plermu$r84$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#54936

On 8/20/2018 6:36 AM, nospam wrote:
> In article <plefhj$cbq$1@dont-email.me>, sms

>> Many people want to charge their phone and use headphones at the
>> same time.
> 
> not very many, since iphone batteries easily lasts a full day in 
> typical use, usually well into the second day, so there's little
> need to do both.

As a serious headphone user I would agree. Local music hardly makes a
dent in MY phone battery (YMMV). Streaming takes a little more. I've
fallen asleep in my chair and even streaming overnight the battery only
dropped around 30%. (What...you've never fallen asleep overnight in your
chair???)

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#54939

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date	2018-08-20 07:14 -0700
Message-ID	<0001HW.212B043900305E8C700001DE02CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to	#54934

On Aug 20, 2018, sms wrote
(in article <plefhj$cbq$1@dont-email.me>):

> On 8/19/2018 5:42 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> > On Aug 19, 2018, sms wrote
> > (in article <plcsh5$flo$1@dont-email.me>):
> >
> > >
> > > You can add a headphone jack to an iPhone 7, not sure about an iPhone 8.
> > >
> > > See <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA>  It took him 17 weeks
> > > to do it.
> >
> > BTW: That was waste of time, and money given that he had the solution in
> > hand with the Lightning/headphone adapter to start with. An exercise in futility.
>
> Many people want to charge their phone and use headphones at the same time.
>
> While there are adapters for that, i.e.
> <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074WDWVX1>  it gets clunky to be carrying and
> using all these extra bits.

...and that was one reason I bought both, the Pioneer RAYZ which has an 
inline Lightning input for charging while using the earphones, and a pair of 
Apple Airpods which are recharged in their container.

<https://www.pioneerrayz.com/earphones>

<https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMEF2AM/A/airpods>

...and it is tough to think of a reason to wear earphones for 10+ straight 
hours to listen to anything.

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck

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#54940

From	Arlen Holder <arlenholder@nospam.net>
Date	2018-08-20 14:27 +0000
Message-ID	<plej4u$it0$1@news.mixmin.net>
In reply to	#54939

On 20 Aug 2018 07:14:17 GMT, Savageduck wrote:

> ...and it is tough to think of a reason to wear earphones for 10+ straight 
> hours to listen to anything.

You Apple Apologists find the _strangest_ reasons for everything.

*Your idiotic claim, Savageduck, simply proves you speak of child's logic.*

You claim that people are wearing earphones for "ten plus straight hours",
where, your utterly ridiculous claims negate going to the bathroom, eating,
sleeping, etc.

The _only_ way you Apple Apologists can make _any_ claim, is to make the
absolute *worst* comparisons any idiot human can make.

And you, Savageduck, have proven yourself to be an idiot time and again.

Ten plus straight hours, for heaven's sake.
You're an utter moron Savageduck.

You can't come up with a rationale better than that?

*Everything you say, Savageduck, simply proves you're an utter idiot.*

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#54943

From	Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com>
Date	2018-08-20 07:36 -0700
Message-ID	<0001HW.212B09590031921B700001DE02CF@news.giganews.com>
In reply to	#54939

On Aug 20, 2018, Savageduck wrote
(in article<0001HW.212B043900305E8C700001DE02CF@news.giganews.com>):

> On Aug 20, 2018, sms wrote
> (in article <plefhj$cbq$1@dont-email.me>):
>
> > On 8/19/2018 5:42 PM, Savageduck wrote:
> > > On Aug 19, 2018, sms wrote
> > > (in article <plcsh5$flo$1@dont-email.me>):
> > >
> > > >
> > > > You can add a headphone jack to an iPhone 7, not sure about an iPhone 8.
> > > >
> > > > See <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utfbE3_uAMA>  It took him 17 weeks
> > > > to do it.
> > >
> > > BTW: That was waste of time, and money given that he had the solution in
> > > hand with the Lightning/headphone adapter to start with. An exercise in
> > > futility.
> >
> > Many people want to charge their phone and use headphones at the same time.
> >
> > While there are adapters for that, i.e.
> > <https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074WDWVX1>  it gets clunky to be carrying and
> > using all these extra bits.
>
> ...and that was one reason I bought both, the Pioneer RAYZ which has an
> inline Lightning input for charging while using the earphones, and a pair of
> Apple Airpods which are recharged in their container.
>
> <https://www.pioneerrayz.com/earphones>
>
> <https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MMEF2AM/A/airpods>
>
> ...and it is tough to think of a reason to wear earphones for 10+ straight
> hours to listen to anything.

BTW: the RAYZ version with the inline Lightning-USB charging connector does 
cost a bit more at $129.95.

<https://www.dropbox.com/s/gaafw0xyux25vhc/screenshot_356.png>

-- 

Regards,
Savageduck

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From	nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
Date	2018-08-20 10:41 -0400
Message-ID	<200820181041220761%nospam@nospam.invalid>
In reply to	#54939

In article <0001HW.212B043900305E8C700001DE02CF@news.giganews.com>,
Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote:

> 
> ...and it is tough to think of a reason to wear earphones for 10+ straight 
> hours to listen to anything.

no shit.

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