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  Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 19:11 -0700
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 22:16 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 03:22 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 03:11 -0500
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:31 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:05 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:18 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 12:36 -0500
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:28 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 19:24 -0500
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 13:58 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline John Carter <me@mymailsvr.org> - 2016-08-19 01:27 +0000
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:13 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:09 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:32 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 18:35 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2016-07-20 13:03 -0500
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 05:59 +0200
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 00:26 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 18:36 +0200
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 17:46 +0000
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 21:29 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-07-20 09:03 +0100
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 04:16 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 10:38 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 11:52 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:11 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:32 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:41 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-21 07:09 +0200
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Tim <timothybil@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-21 09:09 -0500
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 12:46 -0700
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:23 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:51 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 15:09 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 18:23 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 07:47 +0000
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:42 -0400
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-23 11:42 +0100
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 13:28 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 13:59 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-07-22 19:08 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 00:30 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-23 04:00 -0400
                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-23 06:07 -0400
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 04:17 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 08:13 -0700
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 16:23 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-24 19:24 -0700
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 20:14 -0700
                                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 04:29 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-26 09:30 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:38 -0700
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-26 17:58 +0100
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:17 -0400
                                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-26 15:23 -0400
                                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:30 -0400
                                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 08:46 -0700
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-25 07:12 -0600
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 04:27 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 08:27 -0700
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-26 13:40 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 11:16 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 16:27 -0400
                                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 16:35 -0400
                                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 19:38 -0400
                                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 20:21 -0400
                                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "Percival P. Cassidy" <Nobody@NotMyISP.net> - 2016-07-24 22:07 -0400
                                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 22:11 -0400
                            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 13:35 -0400
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 15:16 -0700
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 23:48 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 20:55 -0700
                              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-24 04:22 -0400
                                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-26 15:27 -0400
                                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-27 02:38 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline crankpuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:34 -0600
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 16:41 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 14:03 -0700
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 21:30 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:02 -0700
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:49 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2016-07-20 18:40 +0200
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 15:53 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-20 05:59 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 10:38 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 10:52 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 11:53 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:18 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 12:43 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:13 -0700
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 11:08 -0700
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 14:15 -0400
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 12:24 -0700
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:47 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:42 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:58 +0000
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 14:03 -0700
                  Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 15:27 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:47 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 16:07 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:31 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 16:45 -0700
                        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 20:01 -0700
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 00:15 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 02:08 -0400
                          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 04:04 -0400
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 02:17 -0400
                    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:49 +0000
                      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:51 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 03:44 -0400
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-07-25 17:53 +0000
                Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 15:07 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 07:55 +0000
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-20 12:53 +0100
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-23 23:38 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-24 11:16 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris in Makati <mail@nospam.com> - 2016-07-25 07:32 +0100
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-25 10:25 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Richard Owlett <rowlett@cloud85.net> - 2016-07-20 07:04 -0500
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 09:54 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 08:16 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 11:44 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com> - 2016-07-20 11:08 -0700
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 09:09 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-20 17:29 +0100
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-20 12:44 -0400
            Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 07:45 +0000
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2016-07-21 10:41 +0100
              Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline PAS <abc@doremi.net> - 2016-07-21 09:13 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 13:59 -0700
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:26 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Alek <alek.trishan@gmail.com> - 2016-07-20 18:29 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:28 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline "tb" <nospam@example.invalid> - 2016-07-20 13:41 +0000
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:32 -0400
    Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-07-21 02:58 +1000
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-20 12:59 -0400
        Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:34 -0400
          Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-21 22:38 -0400
      Re: Anybody here who still pays for a landline Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 22:34 -0400

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#32669

On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:35:42 -0400, Micky wrote:

> How do I get rid of a Voicemail notification without calling in for my
> voice mail, and spending time and $2.

Answers I know are carrier-dependent (T-Mo and PagePlus). Which is your
carrier? Or, see whether you can reach your voicemail by calling your cell
number from another line, while your cell phone is OFF, and pushing * or #
to trigger a PIN prompt to hear your messages rather than to leave one. 

Might work. Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#32811

On Sun, 24 Jul 2016 04:22:58 -0400, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net>
wrote:

>On Sat, 23 Jul 2016 13:35:42 -0400, Micky wrote:
>
>> How do I get rid of a Voicemail notification without calling in for my
>> voice mail, and spending time and $2.
>
>Answers I know are carrier-dependent (T-Mo and PagePlus). Which is your
>carrier? Or, see whether you can reach your voicemail by calling your cell
>number from another line, while your cell phone is OFF, and pushing * or #
>to trigger a PIN prompt to hear your messages rather than to leave one. 

Yeah, that's the right answer.  Shame on me for not figuring it out.
Though with AT&T (and why not others?) I don't have to have the phone
off.  I just have to not answer.   Sort of the reverse of sitting
through 4 rings from a spammer without answering. 
>
>Might work. Cheers, -- tlvp

It does. Thanks. 

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#32831

On Tue, 26 Jul 2016 15:27:44 -0400, Micky wrote:

> (and why not others?)

In my case, it won't work with T-Mo because my T-Mo number is intentionally
set *not* to forward to voicemail on busy or no answer (that's a personal
solution to a personal problem). For T-Mo I must call 1-805-MESSAGE, the
all-purpose direct access to their voicemail service, input the desired
T-Mo number, and then (i) leave a message there for it, or (ii) press
whichever it is, * or #, add my PIN when prompted, and hear my messages.

HTH. Oh, and YvW :-) . Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#32566

On 07/21/2016 01:46 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
> Tired of telemarketing calls so I just ordered this from Amazon:
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U1PPWDO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>
>
> Anybody know if I just did something stupid?
>
> So far I haven't received any telemarketing calls on my cell, but we get
> dozens/day on the "landline" phone, mostly of the 'dead air' variety.
>

It says the setup is easy for seniors <snort> but I didn't realize you 
were quite so... senior. <G>

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Mar 26: "Documentation and Portability"]

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#32598

On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:34:34 -0600, crankpuss
<undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 07/21/2016 01:46 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> Tired of telemarketing calls so I just ordered this from Amazon:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U1PPWDO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>>
>> Anybody know if I just did something stupid?
>>
>> So far I haven't received any telemarketing calls on my cell, but we get
>> dozens/day on the "landline" phone, mostly of the 'dead air' variety.
>>
>
>It says the setup is easy for seniors <snort> but I didn't realize you 
>were quite so... senior. <G>

Don't know about her, but I graduated years ago. 

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#32603

On 07/22/2016 05:34 AM, crankpuss wrote:
> On 07/21/2016 01:46 PM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> Tired of telemarketing calls so I just ordered this from Amazon:
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00U1PPWDO/ref=od_aui_detailpages00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
>>
>>
>> Anybody know if I just did something stupid?
>>
>> So far I haven't received any telemarketing calls on my cell, but we get
>> dozens/day on the "landline" phone, mostly of the 'dead air' variety.
>>
>
> It says the setup is easy for seniors <snort> but I didn't realize you
> were quite so... senior. <G>

Stick it in your hat, bub!

I'll take the discounts, of course (When I'm 80 I'll get to ski FREE!) 
but I get really pissed about the patronizing sales pitches.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
=============================================
You are more likely to catch swine flu from a
police officer than from an actual pig.

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#32533

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:41:54 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 15:32:34 -0400, Micky
><NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 08:11:41 -0700, Ken Blake <Ken@invalid.news.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:16:52 -0400, Micky
>>><NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes
>>>><hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>
>>>>Verizon keeps doing various things to get people to FIOS so they can
>>>>take away copper, but I've put anti-tank barricades in my front yard
>>>>to keep them from doing that here.    The DSL is cheap, but the phone
>>>>service is expensive. 
>>>
>>>
>>>I get DSL service from my local phone company, but my phone service
>>>from a VoIP provider.
>>
>>So how much do they charge for your DSL, 
>
>
>I don't have a bill handy and I can't remember exactly, but I think
>it's around $25 a month.

Soounds like a good deal.  but I'm sure I can't get... Well maybe I
could subscribe to DSL in Arizona and have it routed here. 
>
>
>>and what company/region is
>>this? 
>
>
>Century Link/Arizona

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#32386

On 07/20/2016 01:16 AM, Micky wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes

> Bev, I can't make up my mind or get ready by the 29th.   Won't they
> have a repeated or continuing offer that will make you some money and
> get me a discount, instead of having to do t hings this month.

They do this every couple of months, so no hurry.  Direct from Ooma it's 
$99 plus $10 shipping, and there's probably the same $10 shipping 
attached.  They gave us the premium service free for a year if we signed 
up for a year, and excused the other fees.  Maybe they're not as 
generous now.
http://www.ooma.com/rates/

> And Bev if you're using internet for Oooma, WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR
> INTERNEt?

Charter.  Internet only.  $50/month after haggling.  They aren't as 
willing to cut the price as they used to be.  I don't know hether that's 
because AT&T isn't viable competition (costs more for less speed) or 
because they can't afford to.

> And Bev, DO YOUR PHONES PLUG IN LIKE PHONES???  Because I've got
> things working just the way I want it, a base station and three
> cordless extensions.   Well the base station is the only thing that
> really plugs in, with a modular phone jack, and house current.  Will
> that still work?

Yes.  The base station plugs into the router and the cordless satellites 
go wherever you want them.  Mainly the bathroom :-(

> One of them seemed to be breaking so I bought 3 more as spares, before
> they are no longer avaiable even used, so I can last, frankly until I
> die.  The last thing I want to be doing when I'm 95 and have lumbago
> is looking for a replacement cordless phone, or worse yet, redoing the
> whole ssytem.

We bought a variety of cordless phone systems at yard sales.  Most of 
them worked, they just had unpleasant quirks.  We settled on a Panasonic 
set, but we recycled other Panasonics.

> (I've also got my wireless speakers the way I want them except I need
> one or two  more transmitters for when the current one fails.

Those talk to the router, right?  Phone shouldn't matter.

> I don't think my TV system will stay the same for the next 25 years, but
> I can't predict the changes either. I'm good for 3 or 4 years now.)

I can't see any reason to change what we have either.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "We returned the General to El Salvador, or maybe Guatemala,
     it's difficult to tell from 10,000 feet."           -- Anon.

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#32438

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 09:02:04 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

Replying to the rest will take some thought, but...
>
>> (I've also got my wireless speakers the way I want them except I need
>> one or two  more transmitters for when the current one fails.
>
>Those talk to the router, right?  Phone shouldn't matter.

No, wireless, not wi-fi.  I know the phone doesn't matter.  I'm just
blabbing about planning ahead, but I put it in parentheses.

There's a little transmitter plugged into the sound jack on the back
of the computer.  The local speakers are plugged in too, with a
Y-connector.      I bought two sets, and a 5th one at a hamfest, and
at least one has failed I think, so to keep the minimum number I need
(4) and have extra for the next failure, I bought a different brand
and it was so much louder.  But finally I noticed if I turned the
volume up on the computer itself, the smaller ones were loud enough
also!

There are 4 or 5 volume controls in a row, now.   RadioMaximus,
Youtube, and webvideos have one.  The volume mixer has one, but I
don't understand its relation to the next one, and I think it changed
between XP and Vista.  There's the speaker icon in the systray.  There
might be a volume on the transmitter.   And there is a volume control
on the speakers.    So adjusting the volume can be easy or
complicated. 

>> I don't think my TV system will stay the same for the next 25 years, but
>> I can't predict the changes either. I'm good for 3 or 4 years now.)
>
>I can't see any reason to change what we have either.

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#32395

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:16:52 -0400, Micky
<NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes
><hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:11:22 -0700, The Real Bev
>><bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>...NOT part of your cable service?
>>
>>Is a "cable service" not a landline?
>>
>>But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
>>to type this, but it also worjks for our Android phones when we're at
>>home for the data part, though not for voice calls or SMS,
>>
>I'm in the same shoes you are Steve. 
>
>Verizon keeps doing various things to get people to FIOS so they can
>take away copper, but I've put anti-tank barricades in my front yard
>to keep them from doing that here.    The DSL is cheap, but the phone
>service is expensive. 

Here it's the other way round. 

Landline calls within the country are not charged, and included in the
line rental. Calls to cell networks are charged, however. 


Steve Hayes
http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
http://khanya.wordpress.com

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#32439

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 18:40:00 +0200, Steve Hayes
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 04:16:52 -0400, Micky
><NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes
>><hayesstw@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 19:11:22 -0700, The Real Bev
>>><bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>...NOT part of your cable service?
>>>
>>>Is a "cable service" not a landline?
>>>
>>>But yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service I'm using
>>>to type this, but it also worjks for our Android phones when we're at
>>>home for the data part, though not for voice calls or SMS,
>>>
>>I'm in the same shoes you are Steve. 
>>
>>Verizon keeps doing various things to get people to FIOS so they can
>>take away copper, but I've put anti-tank barricades in my front yard
>>to keep them from doing that here.    The DSL is cheap, but the phone
>>service is expensive. 
>
>Here it's the other way round. 

I'm not saying my situation is typical.  They've only raised the DSL
charge once in 9 years, from 10 to 15/month, which surprises me,  but
I think they may have raised the phone charge, or at least they charge
for every little thing, partly to get me to go to FIOS.   

>Landline calls within the country are not charged, and included in the
>line rental. Calls to cell networks are charged, however. 
>
>
>Steve Hayes
>http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
>http://khanya.wordpress.com

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#32348

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

>  yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service

Same here ... and for fax send/receive too, and old fashioned telephony.

HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
-- 
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.

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#32369

On 7/20/2016 5:59 AM, tlvp wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
>
>>   yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service
> Same here ... and for fax send/receive too, and old fashioned telephony.
>
> HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp

Faxing is hit-or-miss with VOIP, mostly miss for me.

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#32372

In article <nmo2dn$o3b$3@dont-email.me>, PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote:

> >
> >>   yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service
> > Same here ... and for fax send/receive too, and old fashioned telephony.
> >
> 
> Faxing is hit-or-miss with VOIP, mostly miss for me.

no problem here. be sure your ata and voip provider support t.38.

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#32384

On 7/20/2016 10:52 AM, nospam wrote:
> In article <nmo2dn$o3b$3@dont-email.me>, PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote:
>
>>>>    yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service
>>> Same here ... and for fax send/receive too, and old fashioned telephony.
>>>
>> Faxing is hit-or-miss with VOIP, mostly miss for me.
> no problem here. be sure your ata and voip provider support t.38.

With Ooma, it's an additional service.  With the VOIP service I had 
before switching to Ooma, which was Optimum Cable, they made it clear 
that you couldn't fax with their service and they were right.

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#32392

In article <nmo6q2$837$3@dont-email.me>, PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote:

> >>>>    yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service
> >>> Same here ... and for fax send/receive too, and old fashioned telephony.
> >>>
> >> Faxing is hit-or-miss with VOIP, mostly miss for me.
> > no problem here. be sure your ata and voip provider support t.38.
> 
> With Ooma, it's an additional service.  With the VOIP service I had 
> before switching to Ooma, which was Optimum Cable, they made it clear 
> that you couldn't fax with their service and they were right.

switch services.

i've faxed without issue using several voip providers as well as google
voice.

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#32396

On 7/20/2016 12:18 PM, nospam wrote:
> In article <nmo6q2$837$3@dont-email.me>, PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote:
>
>>>>>>     yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service
>>>>> Same here ... and for fax send/receive too, and old fashioned telephony.
>>>>>
>>>> Faxing is hit-or-miss with VOIP, mostly miss for me.
>>> no problem here. be sure your ata and voip provider support t.38.
>> With Ooma, it's an additional service.  With the VOIP service I had
>> before switching to Ooma, which was Optimum Cable, they made it clear
>> that you couldn't fax with their service and they were right.
> switch services.
>
> i've faxed without issue using several voip providers as well as google
> voice.


No reason to switch, I rarely need to send or receive a fax.  If I have 
to send anything, I can scan and email.

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#32375

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 10:38:48 -0400, PAS <abc@doremi.net> wrote:

>On 7/20/2016 5:59 AM, tlvp wrote:
>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 05:59:21 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:
>>
>>>   yes, I pay for a landline, mainly for the ADSL service
>> Same here ... and for fax send/receive too, and old fashioned telephony.
>>
>> HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp
>
>Faxing is hit-or-miss with VOIP, mostly miss for me.


As far as I'm concerned, faxing is dead technology, and I haven't done
it for years. Just curious, what do you use it for?

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#32382

In article <885voblslnbtjps8lh53jmri1md5363eij@4ax.com>, Ken Blake
<Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:

> >Faxing is hit-or-miss with VOIP, mostly miss for me.
> 
> As far as I'm concerned, faxing is dead technology, and I haven't done
> it for years. Just curious, what do you use it for?

fax is far from dead. financial institutions and lawyers use it a lot
because they need a physically signed copy.

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#32411

On Wed, 20 Jul 2016 11:44:17 -0400, nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid>
wrote:

>In article <885voblslnbtjps8lh53jmri1md5363eij@4ax.com>, Ken Blake
><Ken@invalid.news.com> wrote:
>
>> >Faxing is hit-or-miss with VOIP, mostly miss for me.
>> 
>> As far as I'm concerned, faxing is dead technology, and I haven't done
>> it for years. Just curious, what do you use it for?
>
>fax is far from dead. financial institutions and lawyers use it a lot
>because they need a physically signed copy.


To me, it's dead. I can sign a physical document, scan it and send it
as an e-mail attachment. I've done this numerous times with financial
institutions.

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