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| Started by | Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> |
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| First post | 2016-07-13 00:29 -0400 |
| Last post | 2016-07-19 03:30 -0400 |
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What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 00:29 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 06:34 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-13 06:59 +0000
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 10:57 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:47 +0000
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-13 14:05 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-13 23:50 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-14 13:50 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 04:33 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-15 15:20 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:54 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-15 22:14 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 21:03 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 09:13 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:46 +0000
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 23:53 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 07:28 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 01:39 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 07:51 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 08:43 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 10:55 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 18:16 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 18:17 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-19 12:21 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 03:56 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 18:13 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-21 23:51 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:54 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 02:09 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-27 09:06 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-28 03:27 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-22 02:25 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 08:37 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-07-22 02:40 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 08:53 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-16 00:03 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-18 16:41 -0500
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> - 2016-07-20 03:20 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-20 15:51 -0500
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 14:56 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-15 22:17 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 21:05 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:47 +0000
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:47 +0000
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-18 23:47 +0000
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-18 23:56 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2016-07-19 20:20 +0200
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-14 00:57 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-15 21:00 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 00:41 +0000
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 00:01 -0400
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-19 05:37 +0000
Re: What does it mean when a map program wants my contacts? Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-07-19 03:30 -0400
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-19 10:55 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <190720161055461356%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #32206 |
In article <nmki72$oqo$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote: > >> A compass usage in a car is problematic > >> due the car iron interference and vibrations. > > > > nonsense. compasses work just fine in cars and many cars come with them > > built in. > > Rather, they point. How correct they are > is different, case dependent story. the quality ones are very accurate. the shitty ones are not. just like any product. > Sellers sell anything the drivers are willing to buy. buyers don't buy what doesn't work.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-19 18:16 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nmljpe$85i$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32234 |
On 07/19/2016 04:55 PM, nospam wrote: > In article <nmki72$oqo$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik > <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Rather, they point. How correct they are >> is different, case dependent story. > > the quality ones are very accurate. the shitty ones are not. just like > any product. But that is self-obvious. > >> Sellers sell anything the drivers are willing to buy. > > buyers don't buy what doesn't work. > Buyers buy whatever if they think it works.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-19 18:17 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nmljri$85i$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32241 |
On 07/19/2016 06:16 PM, Poutnik wrote: > On 07/19/2016 04:55 PM, nospam wrote: >> In article <nmki72$oqo$1@dont-email.me>, Poutnik >> <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Rather, they point. How correct they are >>> is different, case dependent story. >> >> the quality ones are very accurate. the shitty ones are not. just like >> any product. > > But that is self-obvious. > >> >>> Sellers sell anything the drivers are willing to buy. >> >> buyers don't buy what doesn't work. >> > Buyers buy whatever if they think it works. > P.S.> Especially if they are victims of Scientology.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-19 12:21 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <190720161221340222%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #32241 |
In article <nmljpe$85i$2@dont-email.me>, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> Sellers sell anything the drivers are willing to buy. > > > > buyers don't buy what doesn't work. > > > Buyers buy whatever if they think it works. and then return it if it doesn't. more likely, they do some research prior to purchase, especially if it's a major purchase, such as a car. these days, word gets around *really* fast if something is crap.
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| From | Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-19 03:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <mqlrobh586e7gjm0ujjnn9859hpgeb7qea@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32190 |
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 07:28:22 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote: >Dne 19/07/2016 v 05:53 Micky napsal(a): >> On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 09:13:39 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Dne 16/07/2016 v 03:03 Micky napsal(a): >>> >>>> >>>> Second, I thought GPSes were mostly for directions. I want maps, not >>>> directions. >>> >>> GPS as subdevice/firmware of smartphones just gives numerical position. >> >> But he was suggesting I get a non-Smart phone and a separate GPS. > >Separate GPS is fine, >but with non-smart phone it may be problematic to use. > >> >>> To want map application without GPS is IMHO not very wise, >>> especially if most current smart devices do have it. >> >> It's very very rare I don't know where I am, even when traveling. What >> I do need is a modern compass for my car. I bought one at a truck >> stop and gave it to my friend who died in March. He never used it and >> I wish his brother had offered it back to me, it or any other thing of >> his I could have kept as a memento. > >It is not necesserily about getting lost, >but about to know exactly +/- few meters where you are. > >A compass usage in a car is problematic >due the car iron interference and vibrations. They've improved them. And since my roof is just a frame, for a convertible, maybe that helps, especially when it's down. Anyhow, I had one that worked well for 3 months, top up or down, and then broke so I had to turn on the car 3 or 4 times to get it to go on. I should have returned it then. The newer ones don't bother with turning the two compensating magnets. You just drive around in a circle and it adds everything together and compensates. I was a math major in a college with a good math department, and I wouldn't know how to do that even in principle, but some people are smart. The one I gave my friend mounted on the dash. He woudlnt' mind because his car and truck were always a mess, but I got one that replaced the rearview mirror, so I could use the power wires that went to the factory mirror. No holes in the dash. >Most of GPS smartphones do have HW compass, Hardware? >but even then they do not derive the heading course from it, >but from GPS, what is at the car speed more reliable. I'm sorry. I don't see what car speed has to do with it. I'm still not turning any faster than if I were walking. Less fast actually, because I've never skidded from turning sharply when walking. BTW the reason I missed the compass on the way home from Kimberton is that it was so cloudy, I had no idea where the sun was, so I couldn't navigate by the sun, and the roads around there are not like Indiana, where 90% go straight e-w or n-s. They wind around, and even if the highway sign says Rte. 33 S. that doesn't mean one is going south. It could even be north for short parts. But it was an adventure and I still had the state map. (Sometimes I use maps from 1957 or 67. That's an additional challenge because not all the expressways are on them, and not all the neighborhoods, but it just makes it more fun.) A friend pointed out that while moss doesn't grow always on the north side of trees, satellite dishes here always point south. But for much of the trip there were none. Sometimes it's hard, especially if the top is up, to keep looking up at the sun, even when it can be seen, but for that I use the shadows of telelphone and other poles. Like a reverse sundial.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-19 18:13 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nmljja$85i$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32215 |
On 07/19/2016 09:56 AM, Micky wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 07:28:22 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> Most of GPS smartphones do have HW compass, > > Hardware? Yes. I suppose it based on the 3 orthogonal Hall sensors or similar. https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-compass-work-in-smart-phones-What-sensors-are-used-and-how-do-they-show-the-correct-directions "Basically there are three major types: Hall Sensor, Anisotropic Magnetoresistive (AMR) or Giant Magnetoresistive (GMR). ......." Some phone compass calibration methods say to make 1-2 phones turns around each of phones axis. but usually a wild randum turning is enough to calibrate. > >> but even then they do not derive the heading course from it, >> but from GPS, what is at the car speed more reliable. > > I'm sorry. I don't see what car speed has to do with it. I'm still > not turning any faster than if I were walking. Less fast actually, > because I've never skidded from turning sharply when walking. The faster the car goes, the less noisy is GPS course derived from the GPS position trend by Kalman filtering.
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| From | Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-21 23:51 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <7tbtob5j79id848hjhe68b8g2ru5ompqsh@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32239 |
On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:13:29 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote: >On 07/19/2016 09:56 AM, Micky wrote: >> On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 07:28:22 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> >>> Most of GPS smartphones do have HW compass, >> >> Hardware? I meant does HW stand for HardWare? > >Yes. I suppose it based on the 3 orthogonal Hall sensors or similar. Not Hyrule Warriors, words I see in all the places I search for "HW compass'? I can't imagine what that means. >https://www.quora.com/How-does-a-compass-work-in-smart-phones-What-sensors-are-used-and-how-do-they-show-the-correct-directions > >"Basically there are three major types: Hall Sensor, Anisotropic >Magnetoresistive (AMR) or Giant Magnetoresistive (GMR). ......." > Very interesting. >Some phone compass calibration methods say >to make 1-2 phones turns around each of phones axis. >but usually a wild randum turning is enough to calibrate. > >> >>> but even then they do not derive the heading course from it, >>> but from GPS, what is at the car speed more reliable. >> >> I'm sorry. I don't see what car speed has to do with it. I'm still >> not turning any faster than if I were walking. Less fast actually, >> because I've never skidded from turning sharply when walking. > >The faster the car goes, the less noisy is GPS course >derived from the GPS position trend by Kalman filtering. You're comparing it with something other than a magnetic compass, which is what I've been talking about. The kind that is included in a rear view mirror.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-22 06:54 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nms8tk$n2j$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32543 |
Dne 22/07/2016 v 05:51 Micky napsal(a): > On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:13:29 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> On 07/19/2016 09:56 AM, Micky wrote: >>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 07:28:22 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Most of GPS smartphones do have HW compass, >>> >>> Hardware? > > I meant does HW stand for HardWare? Yes, HW is a common abbreviation for hardware, as SW for software. Well, SW is better to avoid to prevent confusion with SW as SouthWest in compass context. :-) >> >> Yes. I suppose it based on the 3 orthogonal Hall sensors or similar. > > Not Hyrule Warriors, words I see in all the places I search for "HW > compass'? I can't imagine what that means. Some Android user may turn into warriors when challenged by ill-will Android device a/o application. :-) >> The faster the car goes, the less noisy is GPS course >> derived from the GPS position trend by Kalman filtering. > > You're comparing it with something other than a magnetic compass, > which is what I've been talking about. The kind that is included in > a rear view mirror. > I compare it with magnetic compass ( HW compass) in the smartphone, talked above. As most smartphones used for car GPS navigation do have HW compass, while only some cars do have their own compass ( in my region it is very rare ) -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-27 02:09 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <4mjgpb1mn3kro9da3n431621g9ceav018i@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32545 |
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:54:11 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> wrote: >Dne 22/07/2016 v 05:51 Micky napsal(a): >> On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 18:13:29 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> On 07/19/2016 09:56 AM, Micky wrote: >>>> On Tue, 19 Jul 2016 07:28:22 +0200, Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Most of GPS smartphones do have HW compass, >>>> >>>> Hardware? >> >> I meant does HW stand for HardWare? > >Yes, HW is a common abbreviation for hardware, as SW for software. >Well, SW is better to avoid to prevent confusion with SW as SouthWest in >compass context. :-) LOL >>> Yes. I suppose it based on the 3 orthogonal Hall sensors or similar. >> >> Not Hyrule Warriors, words I see in all the places I search for "HW >> compass'? I can't imagine what that means. > >Some Android user may turn into warriors >when challenged by ill-will Android device a/o application. :-) I'll watch my back. >>> The faster the car goes, the less noisy is GPS course >>> derived from the GPS position trend by Kalman filtering. >> >> You're comparing it with something other than a magnetic compass, >> which is what I've been talking about. The kind that is included in >> a rear view mirror. >> >I compare it with magnetic compass ( HW compass) in the smartphone, >talked above. As most smartphones used for car GPS navigation do have HW >compass, while only some cars do have their own compass >( in my region it is very rare ) I think it's very rare here too. I guess I don't ride in that many cars or trucks but I only know about it in Chrysler minivans, where it's just above, or behind?, the windshield It's the result of, and maybe a partial cause of the fact that few people direct themselves by compass. Even for me, I only use it when the sun isn't shining and I already don't know which direction I'm going. Which is rare.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-27 09:06 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nn9mha$529$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32829 |
Dne 27/07/2016 v 08:09 Micky napsal(a): > > It's the result of, and maybe a partial cause of the fact that few > people direct themselves by compass. Even for me, I only use it when > the sun isn't shining and I already don't know which direction I'm > going. Which is rare. > There are tribes, that always since being a child do know the compass orientation, and everything orders wrt that. Most Europian natoons, if to put ordered things one by one on the table, they order it from left to right. Some nations who write from right to left, are ordering from right to left. But these tribes order from East to West, like as beginning of a day is Sunrise, and the end is Sunset. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-28 03:27 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1ercoll3cq5wa$.1lfb5t3zu45f9.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #32833 |
On Wed, 27 Jul 2016 09:06:18 +0200, Poutnik wrote:
> But these tribes order from East to West,
> like as beginning of a day is Sunrise,
> and the end is Sunset.
Indeed the very words for the concepts "east" and "west" also mean
"sunrise" and "sunset", respectively (think also of German "Abendland"
("evening" land) for "Occident", and "Lands of the Rising Sun" for the
Orient). "Likewise, "noon" for "south" (think of the French "midi") and
"midnight" for "north".
Real-world linguistics is no end of amazements. Cheers, -- tlvp
--
Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-22 02:25 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <z01ljp50o671$.1tt953cv3jx9y.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #32543 |
On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 23:51:45 -0400, Micky wrote: > does HW stand for HardWare? For some folks, yes. For others, it stands for HomeWork ... or HeavyWeight ... or HighWire ... or HotWire ... or ... . HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-22 08:37 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nmsevo$5ti$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32547 |
Dne 22/07/2016 v 08:25 tlvp napsal(a): > On Thu, 21 Jul 2016 23:51:45 -0400, Micky wrote: > >> does HW stand for HardWare? > > For some folks, yes. For others, it stands for HomeWork ... > or HeavyWeight ... or HighWire ... or HotWire ... or ... . > It depends rather on context then on people. Meaning of abbreviations, definitions and words is context dependent. See e.g. here http://www.acronymfinder.com/HW.html For context for smartphones, GPS, compass and orientation, it is not so hard to guess. In case of danger of intersection of contexts, it is better to avoid them, or to explicitly explain. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-22 02:40 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <220720160240430151%nospam@nospam.invalid> |
| In reply to | #32547 |
In article <z01ljp50o671$.1tt953cv3jx9y.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote: > > does HW stand for HardWare? > > For some folks, yes. For others, it stands for HomeWork ... > or HeavyWeight ... or HighWire ... or HotWire ... or ... . it depends on context, not folks. a hw compass can't be 'homework compass'. a house with hw floors can't be 'high wire floors'.
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| From | Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-22 08:53 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nmsfu4$8e8$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #32549 |
Dne 22/07/2016 v 08:40 nospam napsal(a): > In article <z01ljp50o671$.1tt953cv3jx9y.dlg@40tude.net>, tlvp > <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> wrote: > >>> does HW stand for HardWare? >> >> For some folks, yes. For others, it stands for HomeWork ... >> or HeavyWeight ... or HighWire ... or HotWire ... or ... . > > it depends on context, not folks. We agree each other sometimes... > a hw compass can't be 'homework compass'. Well, it can be, if made as a homework, talked in homework context. :-) > a house with hw floors can't be 'high wire floors'. > Well, it can be, if talked in an electrician work context. :-) But both cases are not probable and such a usage would be highly unwise, if not stupid. It should be used in the most probable meaning for the context. -- Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer ) Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-16 00:03 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <y9jwghnk32d4$.1ki93kxrzh4c6.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #31819 |
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 14:54:02 -0400, Micky wrote: > ... No I wouldn't be better off. It doesn't display maps, for one thing. > And it doesn't search the web or do email for the rare but occasional > times I'll want to do that. That I don't want to spend 250 doesn't > mean I won't spend 50 or 100. ... For a phone with maps, browser, camera, wi-fi, etc., and good calling out and receiving, at least on Verizon's US cdma network, someone here proposed (and I ran with the idea) an older Motorola Droid X2, ~ $25 p/p, on Page Plus service. Android 2.3.5. $30/year, or so, and I'm available as needed, for light use, with funds steadily accumulating in my Page Plus account. For a similar solution on a GSM network, someone else will have to say. HTH. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-18 16:41 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <86jqob51g0r329o553vlb5mhgnuk6s35ee@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #31875 |
>For a phone with maps, browser, camera, wi-fi, etc., and good calling out >and receiving, at least on Verizon's US cdma network, someone here proposed >(and I ran with the idea) an older Motorola Droid X2, ~ $25 p/p, on Page >Plus service. Android 2.3.5. $30/year, or so, and I'm available as needed, >for light use, with funds steadily accumulating in my Page Plus account. Motorola Bionic (XT875) and Motorola Droid 4 (XT894) cdma phones offer more updated specs for about the same money.
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| From | tlvp <mPiOsUcB.EtLlLvEp@att.net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-20 03:20 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1h2k6aj98p0c8.j53yl5zovamk.dlg@40tude.net> |
| In reply to | #32120 |
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:41:20 -0500, M.L. wrote: >>For a phone with maps, browser, camera, wi-fi, etc., and good calling out >>and receiving, at least on Verizon's US cdma network, someone here proposed >>(and I ran with the idea) an older Motorola Droid X2, ~ $25 p/p ... > > Motorola Bionic (XT875) and Motorola Droid 4 (XT894) cdma phones offer > more updated specs for about the same money. Interesting, ML: thanks. LTE, by any chance? Cameras on both sides? And how about their GSM counterparts? Any? Thanks. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP.
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| From | M.L. <me@privacy.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-20 15:51 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <61pvobd2ghjasnka8sa99320thb304eq7n@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #32330 |
>>>For a phone with maps, browser, camera, wi-fi, etc., and good calling out >>>and receiving, at least on Verizon's US cdma network, someone here proposed >>>(and I ran with the idea) an older Motorola Droid X2, ~ $25 p/p ... >> >> Motorola Bionic (XT875) and Motorola Droid 4 (XT894) cdma phones offer >> more updated specs for about the same money. > >Interesting, ML: thanks. LTE, by any chance? Cameras on both sides? >And how about their GSM counterparts? Any? Thanks. Cheers, -- tlvp Both phones have dual cameras and support LTE. Walmart has several new CDMA and GSM Android LTE phones for under $40.00.
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| From | Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-15 14:56 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <paciob9pjfd0p9i5eidrhuo9no2m76t2ug@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #31780 |
On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 15:20:38 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
>On Fri, 15 Jul 2016 04:33:50 -0400, Micky wrote:
>
>> >Depends on what you call expensive.
>
>> All the ones below are expensive by me. If I called more people or
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>> they called me, it might be worth it.
>
>If calling or be called is more important, then you're probably better
>off with a so-called "senior" phone:
><http://www.seniorentelefoonstore.be/product/331576/category-192829/fysic-fm-7500-senioren-telefoon.html>
>
>34,99 euro
BTW, I only spoke for myself. I said "by me", and "If I called more
people". I didn't try to speak for you, as you have tried to speak
for me.
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