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Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices?

Started byAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
First post2016-07-21 21:43 +0000
Last post2016-07-22 15:02 +0000
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  Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-21 21:43 +0000
    Re: Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:46 +0200
      Re: Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-22 06:18 +0000
        Re: Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 08:48 +0200
          Re: Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-22 15:02 +0000
            Re: Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 17:26 +0200
          Re: Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 17:05 -0700
            Re: Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-07-23 07:25 +0200
    Re: Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? crankpuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-07-22 06:41 -0600
      Re: Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices? Aardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com> - 2016-07-22 15:02 +0000

#32521 — Can archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices?

FromAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Date2016-07-21 21:43 +0000
SubjectCan archived APK files be used in *other* Android devices?
Message-ID<nmrflu$1ulv$2@gioia.aioe.org>
I have a S3 on Android 4.3 and I have App Backup & Restore freeware which
saves the APK files to the flash drive.

If I give someone else on Android (but not necessarily the same type of
device) that flash drive, can they install those APK files from ES File
Explorer?

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#32544

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-22 06:46 +0200
Message-ID<nms8ft$m5s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32521
Dne 21/07/2016 v 23:43 Aardvarks napsal(a):
> I have a S3 on Android 4.3 and I have App Backup & Restore freeware which
> saves the APK files to the flash drive.
> 
> If I give someone else on Android (but not necessarily the same type of
> device) that flash drive, can they install those APK files from ES File
> Explorer?
> 
Generally, yes.

But be aware that Google Play store offers you
to install only apps compatible with your device.

While majority of apps are widely usable,
some may be incompatible
with the target device HW or the Android version.

Such incompatible apps would not be normally offered
to the target user by the Google Play Store if searched/browsed.

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#32546

FromAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Date2016-07-22 06:18 +0000
Message-ID<nmsdr9$t92$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#32544
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:46:52 +0200, Poutnik wrote:

> Generally, yes.
> 
> But be aware that Google Play store offers you
> to install only apps compatible with your device.
> 
> While majority of apps are widely usable,
> some may be incompatible
> with the target device HW or the Android version.
> 
> Such incompatible apps would not be normally offered
> to the target user by the Google Play Store if searched/browsed.

Thank you for clarifying that the apps that work on the S3 will work on any
other Android device as long as they are compatible with the hw/sw of that
other Android device.

This makes sense.

What I was wondering was whether there was any built-in restriction, either
to the user id or to the specific model of the phone.

I wonder if F-Droid builds in the same restrictions.

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#32550

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-22 08:48 +0200
Message-ID<nmsfji$7hc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32546
Dne 22/07/2016 v 08:18 Aardvarks napsal(a):

> 
> Thank you for clarifying that the apps that work on the S3 will work on any
> other Android device as long as they are compatible with the hw/sw of that
> other Android device.
> 
> This makes sense.
> 
> What I was wondering was whether there was any built-in restriction, either
> to the user id or to the specific model of the phone.

Not sure about the paid versions,
this is probably not possible/easy.

Generally it is better to install apps from the store,
unless connection is a problem.
> 
> I wonder if F-Droid builds in the same restrictions.
> 
I have recently comfigured a BlackBerry Q10
with Android subsystem for my friend.

Before I was successful to install Google play store client,
I used CM CleanMaster on My Sony Xperia M Dual (A4.3)
to export several APKs,
transferred them to the BB
and installed APK from local storage.


-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#32575

FromAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Date2016-07-22 15:02 +0000
Message-ID<nmtci1$d8b$9@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#32550
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 08:48:18 +0200, Poutnik wrote:

> Not sure about the paid versions,
> this is probably not possible/easy.

That's interesting. I never pay for software, so I was just asking about
the freeware versions.

However, that begs the question.
What do the paid versions lock to?

NOTE: I change my Google Play ID constantly - so I "guess" it ties it to
the Google Play ID.

> Generally it is better to install apps from the store,
> unless connection is a problem.

Except that there is less phoning home with the F-Droid apps.
 

> Before I was successful to install Google play store client,
> I used CM CleanMaster on My Sony Xperia M Dual (A4.3)
> to export several APKs,
> transferred them to the BB
> and installed APK from local storage.

Thank you for this useful information from someone who has done this.

Thanks!

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#32577

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-22 17:26 +0200
Message-ID<nmtdug$cbo$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32575
On 07/22/2016 05:02 PM, Aardvarks wrote:

>
> That's interesting. I never pay for software, so I was just asking about
> the freeware versions.
>
> However, that begs the question.
> What do the paid versions lock to?
>
> NOTE: I change my Google Play ID constantly - so I "guess" it ties it to
> the Google Play ID.

you can install another instance of the application you have bought
on you other device for free, if you use the same Google ID on it.

But perhaps it wants to verify the bought status online,
I have never done so before.


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#32627

FromThe Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-22 17:05 -0700
Message-ID<nmuccu$m75$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32550
On 07/21/2016 11:48 PM, Poutnik wrote:
> Dne 22/07/2016 v 08:18 Aardvarks napsal(a):
>
>>
>> Thank you for clarifying that the apps that work on the S3 will work on any
>> other Android device as long as they are compatible with the hw/sw of that
>> other Android device.
>>
>> This makes sense.
>>
>> What I was wondering was whether there was any built-in restriction, either
>> to the user id or to the specific model of the phone.
>
> Not sure about the paid versions,
> this is probably not possible/easy.

I couldn't update my (few) paid apps from 1 Mobile Market, I had to go 
through the play store, which meant eliminating a few nonessential apps.

> Generally it is better to install apps from the store,
> unless connection is a problem.

Or "not enough room".

>> I wonder if F-Droid builds in the same restrictions.
>>
> I have recently comfigured a BlackBerry Q10
> with Android subsystem for my friend.
>
> Before I was successful to install Google play store client,
> I used CM CleanMaster on My Sony Xperia M Dual (A4.3)
> to export several APKs,
> transferred them to the BB
> and installed APK from local storage.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
     Cthulhu for President in 2016. Why vote for a lesser evil?

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#32641

FromPoutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-23 07:25 +0200
Message-ID<nmuv4b$vjj$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32627
Dne 23/07/2016 v 02:05 The Real Bev napsal(a):

>> Generally it is better to install apps from the store,
>> unless connection is a problem.

> Or "not enough room".

If "not enough room", it is generally better
not to install apps from any source
until there is enough room again.  :-D

-- 
Poutnik ( The Pilgrim, Der Wanderer )
Knowledge makes great men humble, but small men arrogant.

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#32568

Fromcrankpuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com>
Date2016-07-22 06:41 -0600
Message-ID<nmt706$iuv$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#32521
On 07/21/2016 03:43 PM, Aardvarks wrote:
> I have a S3 on Android 4.3 and I have App Backup & Restore freeware which
> saves the APK files to the flash drive.
>
> If I give someone else on Android (but not necessarily the same type of
> device) that flash drive, can they install those APK files from ES File
> Explorer?
>

Far as I remember, they have to enable security/unknown-sources first 
then click on the file and open it with the installer, but I've never 
used ES File Explorer, I didn't care for the privs it wanted and dumped 
it.  I think the one I use is from lonelycat or something like that, 
it's a two-column app similar to midnight commander in layout and 
function, but my Android is out in the shop and powered down so I can't 
verify its name.  Short answer: yep, Android apps are portable, whether 
particular apps are hardware-dependent is a separate question.

-- 
http://totally-portable-software.blogspot.com
   [Sat Mar 26: "Documentation and Portability"]

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#32574

FromAardvarks <aardvarks@a.b.c.com>
Date2016-07-22 15:02 +0000
Message-ID<nmtcht$d8b$8@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#32568
On Fri, 22 Jul 2016 06:41:38 -0600, crankpuss wrote:

> Far as I remember, they have to enable security/unknown-sources first 
> then click on the file and open it with the installer, but I've never 
> used ES File Explorer, I didn't care for the privs it wanted and dumped 
> it.  I think the one I use is from lonelycat or something like that, 
> it's a two-column app similar to midnight commander in layout and 
> function, but my Android is out in the shop and powered down so I can't 
> verify its name.  Short answer: yep, Android apps are portable, whether 
> particular apps are hardware-dependent is a separate question.

Hi Crankpus,
You can set the permissions, after the fact, using App Ops Starter,
depending on what Android OS you're on. It works fine for me on Android 4.3
to set permissions for any app the way I want them to be set.

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